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I don't want to post the entire article but I made the mistake of clicking on a Florio article about where Tebow should end up. I can't stand the argument made by people when they say sports teams should sign/draft a player just because they would get people in the seats (Texans drafting Young, Jaguars drafting Tebow, etc.) since it is a short term solution and most of the time not even in the best interest of the team. Yet the first sentence...quote:1. The Rams. Follow by quote:2. The Vikings. And I stopped reading at that point. It boggles my mind that Florio and PFT have somehow become a respected institution in the football media world. I am hoping that this is a work of satire that is over my reading comprehension levels.
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# ? Mar 20, 2012 02:55 |
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Declan MacManus posted:Sometimes I forget that FakeOmarKelly isn't real. "On a conference call 5 mins ago, Steve Ross was informed free agency has already begun. He screamed at Ireland for not telling him earlier." That's it, I'm hooked. like a dolphin in a tuna net
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# ? Mar 20, 2012 16:16 |
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"The Bills do make football sense. Coach Chan Gailey is perhaps the pro game's best at getting creative with mobile quarterbacks. He's the rare coach who would know what to do with Tebow. He could upgrade the backup position behind Ryan Fitzpatrick. Gailey could create packages for Tebow on the goal line and in short yardage, like the coach once did for Kordell Stewart." -Gregg Rosenthal
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# ? Mar 21, 2012 04:25 |
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TEBOW 3 16 posted:"The Bills do make football sense. Coach Chan Gailey is perhaps the pro game's best at getting creative with mobile quarterbacks. He's the rare coach who would know what to do with Tebow. He could upgrade the backup position behind Ryan Fitzpatrick. Gailey could create packages for Tebow on the goal line and in short yardage, like the coach once did for Kordell Stewart." This isn't a surprise, there was talk of the Bills being pretty locked into Cammy Cam if the Panthers didn't take him precisely because of Gailey's experience with mobile QBs.
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Christ Pseudoscientist posted:And I stopped reading at that point. It boggles my mind that Florio and PFT have somehow become a respected institution in the football media world. I am hoping that this is a work of satire that is over my reading comprehension levels. He is unequivocally a bad writer. Just makes stupid mistakes constantly and shows absolutely no grasp of basic newsgathering or storytelling techniques I'm teaching an undergrad class while I'm doing my master's and I see the same mistakes in their work that I do in his. It's totally unacceptable that he gets paid MILLIONS OF DOLLARS for absolute poo poo
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# ? Mar 25, 2012 21:29 |
I also really like Pat Kirwin and on Sirius NFL Radio I absolutely love Ross Tucker.
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# ? Mar 31, 2012 05:10 |
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Hizawk posted:I also really like Pat Kirwin and on Sirius NFL Radio I absolutely love Ross Tucker. Kirwan's book "take your eye off the ball" is really good too.
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# ? Mar 31, 2012 06:57 |
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I don't have Sirius anymore but does Shannon Sharpe still do a Friday show? That was my favorite show on the NFL channel, and not in a hipster ironic way. It was drat entertaining. It was usually Bob Papa and Shannon Sharpe.
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# ? Mar 31, 2012 15:25 |
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Gerry Fraley of the Dallas Morning News
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# ? Mar 31, 2012 18:27 |
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I legit want to beat on Florio with a baseball bat:quote:On one hand, if the NFL at some point knew or should have known about the long-term consequences of concussions and failed to share the information with the players or to take steps aimed at protecting players, the league faces liability to former players who truly are suffering those long-term consequences, either via the court system or the procedures set forth in the Collective Bargaining Agreement. On the other hand, to the extent that former players are jumping on the barristers’ bandwagon and crying “me, too” when they have no real injuries, then they’re no different than any of the many folks who abuse the legal process for personal gain.
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# ? Mar 31, 2012 20:20 |
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Kalli posted:I legit want to beat on Florio with a baseball bat: Mike Florio: Lawyer, football expert, professional injury diagnostician
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# ? Mar 31, 2012 20:26 |
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Kalli posted:I legit want to beat on Florio with a baseball bat: Maybe he'll quit and become the former players Class Action lawyer.
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# ? Apr 1, 2012 05:37 |
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I don't think its necessarily being unreasonable thinking that there could be players that are claiming injury that didn't have head injuries. But I'm pretty sure every player has had a concussion at some point. Using the highly scientific measure of how many of my friends have been concussed sled riding, I'm going with a 100% NFL concussion rate.
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# ? Apr 1, 2012 16:14 |
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Look at that first loving sentence. Revel in its glory a million clauses per second
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# ? Apr 1, 2012 16:18 |
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Sash! posted:I don't think its necessarily being unreasonable thinking that there could be players that are claiming injury that didn't have head injuries. Yeah, actually, it's pretty unreasonable given the number of sub-concussive impacts pretty much every player suffers in practice alone. Even if a player went his entire career without a helmet-to-helmet collision, he would have suffered dozens of helmet-to-turf collisions even if he only played the NFL-average 3 seasons.
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# ? Apr 1, 2012 17:09 |
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Uh reminder for those of us smarter than Florio, the NFL would be liable to all players, not just players who suffered head injuries, if they hid concussion info. And they almost certainly did.
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# ? Apr 1, 2012 18:16 |
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I just want to show this thread that this article exists: http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/09000d5d828314fc?module=HP11_content_stream#photo=1 Never read anything by Adam Rank.
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# ? Apr 10, 2012 04:13 |
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:Gerry Fraley of the Dallas Morning News He was right about the alien WR not being able to live in this world, he was just more right and earlier about it than this ugly world could tolerate
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# ? Apr 10, 2012 05:01 |
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Did everybody read Peter King's fascinating musings about Steve Gleason and Gleason's film dude, the guy who released the audio of Gregg Williams calling for players to be hurt? Holy god King is the worst.quote:It's impossible to have a one-way, clinical view of the Gleason-Pamphilon mess. At least for me it is.
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# ? Apr 11, 2012 00:35 |
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quote:The mere discussion of what's legally right is what turns my stomach the most. I told you how close these two men were. This is one of those cases where what's legally right shouldn't matter. What's morally right should. What's morally right is that Pamphilon, who never would have heard what Williams said without being attached to Gleason, shouldn't have released the tape without Gleason's permission. what
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# ? Apr 11, 2012 00:38 |
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teachers own the things students learn and the way students use what they learn ok thanks pete
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# ? Apr 11, 2012 01:19 |
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REPORTERS If a source mentions a murder but he maybe wouldn't want you to tell anyone about it...... you know what to do.
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# ? Apr 11, 2012 01:20 |
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In this case I'll defend King...to a point. Gleason was put in a horrible spot by Pamphilon's release of the tape, and it's worth mentioning that he's ensnared in this scandal purely by random connection, endangering his relationship with the team and fanbase when he is relying on their goodwill for fundraising for ALS research. But- and if King was any kind of reporter he'd go to this- reporters aren't supposed to worry about the feelings that might get hurt when they report something they discover. They're supposed to worry about the public harm if they keep silent versus the public benefit if they do their loving job.
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quote:Gleason knew if the tape came out, he'd spend much of whatever cogent energy he has left on something he never intended to fight -- the rantings of a renegade coach -- instead of focusing on what his aim is: trying to make ALS patients live more productive lives. Your bias is showing, author!
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As a former reporter, I am having trouble understanding what King's point is supposed to be. Reporters serve the public, not their sources. There was nothing surreptitious, illegal, or unethical about a documentary filmmaker releasing footage of statements made in his presence. I also get a kick out of how he passes judgment on a contract he admits he's never seen. What a dolt.
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AKMoose posted:As a former reporter, I am having trouble understanding what King's point is supposed to be. Reporters serve the public, not their sources. There was nothing surreptitious, illegal, or unethical about a documentary filmmaker releasing footage of statements made in his presence. I also get a kick out of how he passes judgment on a contract he admits he's never seen. What a dolt. Peter King doesn't make points. He tells long, ambling stories about how in bed he is with the league. In fact, you could view this as the NFL response to the situation: mad about the uncontrolled release of information, but happy that Goodell has another excuse to punish people.
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# ? Apr 13, 2012 18:33 |
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GD_American posted:In this case I'll defend King...to a point. Gleason was put in a horrible spot by Pamphilon's release of the tape, I agree with you to a point, as well. But Gleason was put in that horrible spot not by Pamphilon's release of the tape, but by the fact that Gleason heard those pro-injury comments and did nothing. Just like everyone else. I don't understand how the documentarian gets the attention and Gleason--and tons of other people--skate off without any scrutiny.
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Rap posted:I agree with you to a point, as well. But Gleason was put in that horrible spot not by Pamphilon's release of the tape, but by the fact that Gleason heard those pro-injury comments and did nothing. Just like everyone else. I don't understand how the documentarian gets the attention and Gleason--and tons of other people--skate off without any scrutiny. Because he's handicapped. Anybody that tries to put any of this on him is going to get vilified for trying to throw a disabled person under the bus. Which is bullshit but there you go.
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Rap posted:I agree with you to a point, as well. But Gleason was put in that horrible spot not by Pamphilon's release of the tape, but by the fact that Gleason heard those pro-injury comments and did nothing. Just like everyone else. I don't understand how the documentarian gets the attention and Gleason--and tons of other people--skate off without any scrutiny. Gleason's cause was ALS, his legacy was his Saints career. Are you really blaming him for not being a crusader against the bounty program? .
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# ? Apr 13, 2012 21:43 |
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It just shocks me that a reporter/journalist has some obligation, or might, when he hears Gregg Williams call out opponents' ACLs. But with other outside parties, it's not even brought up that they could maybe do something about it. I mean you have the utter retards like Warren Sapp trying to ID "the mole" or whatever as if it's a bad thing. That's about the only attention that gets paid to the fact that dozens of people heard the injury talk and didn't do anything about it.
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Rap posted:I agree with you to a point, as well. But Gleason was put in that horrible spot not by Pamphilon's release of the tape, but by the fact that Gleason heard those pro-injury comments and did nothing. Just like everyone else. I don't understand how the documentarian gets the attention and Gleason--and tons of other people--skate off without any scrutiny. Gleason is campaigning to raise awareness of a disease, should he really risk his reputation just to save a few pussies some mild concussions? Gleason shouldn't have to put his work in jeopardy just to keep a few people from being dinged up in a contact sport.
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Chichevache posted:Gleason is campaigning to raise awareness of a disease, should he really risk his reputation just to save a few pussies some mild concussions? Gleason shouldn't have to put his work in jeopardy just to keep a few people from being dinged up in a contact sport. I would think not reporting it would do more damage, at least if found out. Unless you are just being sarcastic.
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Chichevache posted:Gleason is campaigning to raise awareness of a disease, should he really risk his reputation just to save a few pussies some mild concussions? Gleason shouldn't have to put his work in jeopardy just to keep a few people from being dinged up in a contact sport. Uh yes he should, can't really tell if you're kidding with the minimizing injuries thing but that's actually pretty important. Also everyone who isn't Warren Sapp would admire him for coming forward, it wouldn't be risking his reputation. Also no offense to Gleason but if I can't name the disease he's so drat focused on raising awareness for, maybe he is not very good at that
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e-nm bit on an incredibly obvious troll
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The Incredible Ed posted:Never trust anything in the Chicago Sun-Times, their Bears reporting is terrible. I wish their entire sports department had been thrown in jail with Conrad Black. They're counterbalanced by the Tribune's team, which is pretty solid. Dan Pompei is a bit of a horse's rear end, but Vaughn McClure and Brad Biggs are usually spot-on with their reports.
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GD_American posted:e-nm bit on an incredibly obvious troll drat. I really wish I'd gotten to read this. I wasn't necessarily trolling, just being sarcastic. Gleason absolutely shouldn't be covering up for Williams.
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# ? Apr 15, 2012 18:50 |
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load up the dick eating machine, because here is some peter king!quote:"I ain't going to say I was sad because the only thing they remember is that pass. You gotta go back and look at the rest of the games. I wasn't getting no balls, and you had to make some of these plays where some players were open and he is not making the throws. But I don't want to talk bad about Tim, but hey, I am happy we got Peyton."
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# ? Apr 16, 2012 15:31 |
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Reminder that Peter King thinks he is great. And that he's going to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
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# ? Apr 16, 2012 15:56 |
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He also found a way to spend a page on bill belichick.
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He thinks he's documenting a unique, creative mind and entering a page into football's storied history. He thinks he is greater than the Sabol family and is the leading football journalist of our times. This is how Peter King sees himself
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