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Apr 16, 2012 15:12
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All these years and they never loctite the shift knobs.
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Apr 16, 2012 15:14
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Sockington posted:All these years and they never loctite the shift knobs. They never put them on, which was kind of annoying. Other cars had them
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Apr 16, 2012 15:16
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Cat Terrist posted:ROMRaider ram raiders I only remember it because for some reason one of the criminals decided to bring his dog along for the heist, and the dog took off running down a downtown street as soon as the door was opened. Truck was pretty much totalled; I'm surprised there wasn't engine intrusion into the cab because the bollard tore right through the front end.
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Apr 16, 2012 15:25
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Nodoze posted:FR-S: vs BRZ Wow the BRZ interior is way nicer.
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Apr 16, 2012 16:09
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Blaise posted:Wow the BRZ interior is way nicer. Huh, I was just thinking that the Scion was pretty nice other than the awful head unit. I like the gray tach. I think having the lights on doesn't help.
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Apr 16, 2012 16:24
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Both of them are surprisingly ugly. They look like something out of the 80s.
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Apr 16, 2012 16:36
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Internet Explorer posted:They look like something out of the 80s. How is this a bad thing? 
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Apr 16, 2012 17:02
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Edit:/\/\ drat youInternet Explorer posted:They look like something out of the 80s. So perfect? 
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Apr 16, 2012 17:02
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More like timeless. When I think 80s interior, I think this:  Actually, something about the clunkiness of that FRS radio headunit actulaly does look very 80s to me. Something about how the buttons are shaped and molded or something OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Apr 16, 2012 |
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Apr 16, 2012 17:24
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The double-DIN size and tiny display are 80s as hell. The clock doesn't help matters at all.
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Apr 16, 2012 19:35
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Seriously that Scion head unit looks like it was pulled of a late 90's Pontiac. Goddamn it Pioneer, that's the best bid you had?
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Apr 16, 2012 19:43
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PeterWeller posted:The double-DIN size and tiny display are 80s as hell. The clock doesn't help matters at all. That volume knob with the big smooth grip ridges looks like classic cheap 80s plastic parts, as do the rest of the giant, rounded buttons that wouldn't look out of place on a Tiger toy. Honestly, if they had messed with the details and layout a bit, it would look way more contemporary, but the ugly controls combined with the fact that it has a giant soft-beveled bezel that actually sticks out of the DIN slot instead of sitting flush looks pretty awful. Do flat plastic clicky buttons really cost that much more? I don't quite get the complaints about the clock, though. Last I checked, digital clocks weren't exactly dated, and they take up less space on the dash than an analog dial would. OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Apr 16, 2012 |
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Apr 16, 2012 19:49
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Scions wants you to buy an upgraded radio. They picked that radio to be the worst possible. It would still be the best radio I had ever purchased new.
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Apr 16, 2012 19:56
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PeterWeller posted:The double-DIN size and tiny display are 80s as hell. The clock doesn't help matters at all. I am pretty sure Toyota ordered about 15,000,000,000 of those clocks in like 1982 and is just installing them out of stock.
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Apr 16, 2012 20:28
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Elephanthead posted:Scions wants you to buy an upgraded radio. They picked that radio to be the worst possible. It would still be the best radio I had ever purchased new. That thing looks like it would jam a cd the third time you try to use it.
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Apr 16, 2012 20:33
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I do really prefer the double din format. It's nice to have the upgradeability. I have a Clarion CX609 in my WRX and it does a fantastic job of working with my ipod/iphone/bluetooth/etc, and I bet it's been replaced by something nicer. Even the display is adjustable to match your factory backlighting.
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Apr 16, 2012 20:54
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emoltra posted:Also, this car isn't the drift car everyone says it's going to be. Seems a bit weird to downplay it like that. First, we have to accept that drifting on public streets is dangerous legally and physically. Next, if we assume that people are going to be trying to drift (from no prior experience/skill), what makes this car so bad? While there's tons of RWD cars that have huge horsepower that'll let you easily break the rear, I don't see that as an automatic leg up on making those cars better drift tools. If the 86 will have the precision in steering feedback and throttle that people say it does, then it should certainly be no worse.
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Apr 16, 2012 20:58
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Doesn't seem that far off from what Toyota was saying before, that it'll reward skilled driving* and to get the most out of it you have to know what you're doing. *I assume the opposite is true and it will punish poor driving, particulary when kids turn off traction control and try drifting for the first time.
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Apr 16, 2012 21:54
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Who cares about stupid drift anyway? Shouldn't that whole thing have gone away like 5 years ago?
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Apr 16, 2012 22:24
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kimbo305 posted:what makes this car so bad? Probably the lack of torque and short wheelbase. Trying to drift a stock Miata is pretty drat hard for those reasons.
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Apr 16, 2012 23:17
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Seat Safety Switch posted:This must be a distinctly Australian crime,
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Apr 17, 2012 00:04
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oRenj9 posted:Probably the lack of torque and short wheelbase. Trying to drift a stock Miata is pretty drat hard for those reasons. It doesn't have a short wheelbase. Miata wheelbase 89 240sx wheelbase 94 Brz wheelbase 101
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Apr 17, 2012 00:04
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oRenj9 posted:Trying to drift a stock Miata is pretty drat hard for those reasons. Actually the real problem is the differential. If you have a good mechanical diff you can drift drat near anything. Still need to break the back end away but it's more than do-able. Hell Mr Drift King has a vid out with a basically stock Sprinter but with a plated diff and it drifts like a champion.
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Apr 17, 2012 00:05
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I'm no drifting expert, but if real drifting is anything like R/C drifting, then all they need to do is switch tire compounds to something low-traction like PVC pipes.
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Apr 17, 2012 00:23
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I am pretty sure Toyota ordered about 15,000,000,000 of those clocks in like 1982 and is just installing them out of stock. I hope they keep using them forever
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Apr 17, 2012 00:28
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Nodoze posted:I hope they keep using them forever Nah I look forward to one day spending 15 minutes sitting in an empty car (in park since we don't trust you or your passenger to use a touch screen while driving) all leaned over to one side awkwardly swiping through multiple layers of menus using my multimedia interface navigational touchscreen until finally giving up and leaving it off by 20 minutes and three time zones. Futuristic! OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Apr 17, 2012 |
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Apr 17, 2012 00:32
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Blaise posted:Who cares about stupid drift anyway? Shouldn't that whole thing have gone away like 5 years ago? hey guys why do people still do this thing i dont like? to be fair though I think drifting in its current form as a competitive sport is loving stupid.
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Apr 17, 2012 00:47
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Cream_Filling posted:I'm no drifting expert, but if real drifting is anything like R/C drifting, then all they need to do is switch tire compounds to something low-traction like PVC pipes. 
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Apr 17, 2012 00:52
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Cakefool posted:Sup? What colors have you seen it in - seen the lovely bronze yet? Only a dark grey so far. Looked good though. The interior has some really dumb color accent panels at the moment. Hopefully they go away.
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Apr 17, 2012 02:31
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formula d is actually pretty entertaining and they put a lot of work into those cars. And I'm one of the last people who would ever say anything nice about drifting. plus these are really entertaining: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4IKCEuCxJ0
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Apr 17, 2012 03:51
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Reports are coming in from the First 86 that their cars are in country. This is a few days earlier than the April 20th port date for the BRZ, as I assume that they were on the same boat. They mentioned May 18th as the last day that Scion would like before the First 86 cars are sold. So look for the BRZ to drop in the same time frame.
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Apr 17, 2012 13:31
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Here's hoping for the 16th of May instead.
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Apr 17, 2012 14:09
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GETCHA PAPER UP posted:Only a dark grey so far. Looked good though. The interior has some really dumb color accent panels at the moment. Hopefully they go away. If you're talking about the multi-material vent accents I think they're here to stay. Hilarity for us was the white hybrid on 15"s with landrover style wheel gaps.
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Apr 17, 2012 16:00
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Couple more of the FR-S  
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Apr 17, 2012 17:51
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Nodoze posted:I hope they keep using them forever
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Apr 17, 2012 23:35
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So I was dicking around with the IIHS insurance loss statistics and found this:pre:Highest losses: All coverages Size/class Relative Loss (avg=100) Scion tC Small two-door models 161 Mercedes Benz S class 4dr LWB Very large luxury models 160 Mitsubishi Lancer Small four-door models 158 Chevrolet Cobalt Small two-door models 141 Suzuki SX4 Small four-door models 141 Dodge Charger Large four-door models 139 Mitsubishi Eclipse Midsize two-door models 137 Cadillac Escalade ESV 4dr 4WD Very large luxury SUVs 134 Cadillac Escalade 4dr 4WD Large luxury SUVs 134 Chevrolet Aveo Mini four-door models 133 Prepare for wave of destruction once the first Scion FR-Ss start going out. OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Apr 18, 2012 |
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Apr 18, 2012 01:53
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That methodology is really transparent. gently caress studies like that.
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Apr 18, 2012 02:06
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Why is the Miata in the Mini Sports Models class but the Saturn Sky is in the Small Sports Models class? I know the Sky/Solstice weigh a good bit more than the Miata, but still.
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Apr 18, 2012 02:36
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Dick Burglar posted:Why is the Miata in the Mini Sports Models class but the Saturn Sky is in the Small Sports Models class? I know the Sky/Solstice weigh a good bit more than the Miata, but still. They probably rate based on size/weight rather than performance. It's not Motortrend.
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Apr 18, 2012 03:45
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