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danbanana posted:holy gently caress am i gonna be drunk a lot... While not my favorite beer of all time, I had a 12oz bottle of the 2008 vintage a couple months ago and it was intense. It was amazing but it took me well over an hour to drink the whole bottle.
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I really wish that there weren't so many sours with cherry flavor. Cherries are one of the few things that I really, really can't stand the flavor of. I feel like every other sour I look up seems to have cherry as a flavor descriptor, and I'm super hesitant to pick up a bottle of many well known sours as a result (La Roja, 3 Fonteinen Oude Kriek, Supplication). The only thing I've ever been able to drink with cherry flavor and not be completely repulsed by is Cherry Coke/Pepsi, and I only drink a can of either one of those maybe once, or twice a year. Tomorrow I'm going to be picking up a bottle of 3 Fonteinen Gueze, and also a Belgian Quad. I haven't decided if I want to try Rochefort 10, or Abt. 12. I've never tried a quad before, so it will be my first look at the style.
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Phanatic posted:The DeProef/Sly Fox collab, Broederlijke Liefde, was awesome. totally love this beer. Marron Acidifie is really good, too, but i'm not sure i've had another collaboration beer that was better in a glass than on paper. just drank an 8-Wired iStout and that is a goddamn good beer, a rich, creamy stout with loads of chocolate and coffee flavors and a nice, slightly bitter hop finish. 10%, but practically chuggable.
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Opened my Ommegang Aphrodite. Was going to drink a can or two of Shift, but with the heat and humidity today, raspberries were calling my name. I forgot how good this was, for a fruit-based beer. One of the few that uses raspberries and manages to exhibit some self-control and not go way overboard on the sweetness. Other raspberry beers taste like candy to me - this one reminds me of the actual fruit. The pear flavors still make it through the Brett, which is really nice. I almost want to open Seduction next, but I've got work in the morning and no one to share with.
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Kudosx posted:I really wish that there weren't so many sours with cherry flavor. Cherries are one of the few things that I really, really can't stand the flavor of. I can't stand that fake mediciney cherry flavor either, so I can assure you that doesn't come through in La Roja, at least from what I've had on tap. The Grand Reserve version also does not have a prominent cherry flavor, or if it does, its not that horrible sickly sweet version you might hate.
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Arnold of Soissons posted:Brooklyn and Schneider did one of the "each brew the same beer differently" Hopfen Weisse colabo that was pretty damned good. Schneider-Weisse's version of this beer was one of my Siebel class's staples while we were in Munich. Partially because some of us were going through hop withdrawal.  The waitresses at the main Schneider-Weisse beer hall on Marienplatz are hilariously reluctant to serve it, too.The Schneider/Brooklyn is probably my favorite collaboration result, but I'm also a fan of Victory's version of Saison du Buff, as well as the Bruery/CCB Marrón Acidifié. Many of the others people listed here are good too. The Stone/Brewdog Bashah is probably the most palatable Brewdog beer I've ever had. wattershed posted:http://beerstreetjournal.com/goose-island-brewings-bourbon-county-to-be-year-round/ I haven't heard about BCBS becoming year-round, but judging by my personal experience, we've been brewing enough of it.  You'd be surprised at how much goes into that beer!The article cited there is great too, about how things at Goose Island are going a year after the AB acquisition. Some surprisingly candid observations there by Goose employees, too: http://chicagoist.com/2012/04/16/the_honk_heard_round_the_world_goos.php#photo-1 And if you guys are interested in seeing more behind-the-scenes stuff at Goose: http://goodbeerhunting.tumblr.com/post/21214672328/goose-island-the-next-king-of-beers-a-good-look-at Joel and Zach are awesome guys, by the way. RocketMermaid fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Apr 17, 2012 |
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Apr 17, 2012 02:08
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Sirotan posted:I can't stand that fake mediciney cherry flavor either, so I can assure you that doesn't come through in La Roja, at least from what I've had on tap. The Grand Reserve version also does not have a prominent cherry flavor, or if it does, its not that horrible sickly sweet version you might hate. Ah, that's very good to hear! Yeah, it's mostly the super-sweet cherry flavor I can't stand. For example, I absolutely detest maraschino cherries. I never knew you worked at GI Ubik... I guess there's a lot more goons in the beer industry than I realized.
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Is anybody still interested in meeting up before DLD? I'm really tempted to go hang out at the Hampton because they're doing a beer share in the lobby but I really don't want to drive back and forth from northern Chicago. Corb3t fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Apr 17, 2012 |
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also, if Ron and the Beast Ryan counts as a collaboration, i liked that, too. drank my bottle of Westbrook's Mexican Cake this evening and i'm not sure i've had a sweeter beer outside of Southern Tier. like, if i took a sip and then licked my lips, i could taste sweet. the beer had a fair amount of roastiness, along with a lot of vanilla, but the sweetness was really too much and the peppers couldn't do enough in the finish to balance it out. interesting, but not that great.
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Apr 17, 2012 03:24
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Sirotan posted:Has anyone ever had a particularly good and memorable collaboration beer? I'm reading about Founder's first collab, which is with Green Flash, and I'm filled with 'meh'. What few collab beers I can even remember having, none of them were particularly great. I've still got a bottle of a Jolly Pumpkin beer called Collababiere, which was with Nøgne Ø and Stone, and it's probably one of the worst JP beers I've had. Allies Win The War was an excellent collaboration between 21st Amendment and Ninkasi.
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Perfectly Cromulent posted:Allies Win The War was an excellent collaboration between 21st Amendment and Ninkasi. Seconding this. Terrific beer that I really wish I had bought more than a single pack of.
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Apr 17, 2012 03:57
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funkybottoms posted:just drank an 8-Wired iStout and that is a goddamn good beer, a rich, creamy stout with loads of chocolate and coffee flavors and a nice, slightly bitter hop finish. 10%, but practically chuggable. I keep seeing their beers, they brew a bunch of styles I really like but I haven't heard any positive reviews until now. Just saw the beer you tried for the first time tonight, I literally passed on it only because I didn't have the ability to carry one more bottle to the register. A few other thoughts... A shop around me has Stone's saison du buff for $0.99, their tag for it says "only a buck, it's still good, really!" I am skeptical. I am officially on the Weihenstephaner Hefeweisen bandwagon now like everyone else seems to be as of a few weeks ago. That's going to be the perfect summer beer. So cheap too. Great when quality and price can work with one another.
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Apr 17, 2012 03:59
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Arnold of Soissons posted:Brooklyn and Schneider did one of the "each brew the same beer differently" Hopfen Weisse colabo that was pretty damned good. Indeed, and well priced too. Kudosx posted:Tomorrow I'm going to be picking up a bottle of 3 Fonteinen Gueze, and also a Belgian Quad. I haven't decided if I want to try Rochefort 10, or Abt. 12. I've never tried a quad before, so it will be my first look at the style. IMO Rochefort 10 is better, I've drank two bottles of ABT 12 now and don't care much for it. Midorka fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Apr 17, 2012 |
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Apr 17, 2012 04:13
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wattershed posted:I keep seeing their beers, they brew a bunch of styles I really like but I haven't heard any positive reviews until now. Just saw the beer you tried for the first time tonight, I literally passed on it only because I didn't have the ability to carry one more bottle to the register. didn't care for their smoked porter, but the iStout was fantastic.
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Apr 17, 2012 04:16
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Midorka posted:IMO Rochefort 10 is better, I've drank two bottles of ABT 12 now and don't care much for it. I'm interested to see what you have to say when you try the Westvleteren 12.
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Apr 17, 2012 04:19
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Perfectly Cromulent posted:I'm interested to see what you have to say when you try the Westvleteren 12. He won't care for it because he didn't care for ABT 12.
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Apr 17, 2012 04:50
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Having actually had Westy 12 (well, like 5 oz of it), I have to say - I can buy Rochefort 10 all day long for fairly cheap, so Westvleteren is not really deserving of the hype. It is a good beer, yes, but not all that much better than Rochefort.
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Perfectly Cromulent posted:I'm interested to see what you have to say when you try the Westvleteren 12. I won't be buying it. I've read too much indicating ABT 12 is very similar so I'm not going to invest $50+ into something I may or may not enjoy. I wish I'd done the same when buying Rogue's XS Imperial Stout. This is a terrible beer, I'm smelling almost nothing but a faint alcohol and spice reminding me of B.O. and the same with the taste. What a drat waste, I'm done with this poo poo brewery from their bad beers to their bad business practices.
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Anyone familiar with "blanche de bruxelles"? Had it on draft yesterday at Falling Rock taphouse in Denver, who usually know what they are doing to put it lightly. It was the hugest diacetyl bomb I have had in my life, it was like smelling and drinking a tub of buttered popcorn  Passed it around the table and everyone agreed, it wasn't just me being a diacetyl-hating sperg. Just nasty. That must have been a bad keg, right? No one would drink that on purpose.I see a few reviews on Ratebeer mentioning diacetyl in it but not an overwhelming amount. Docjowles fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Apr 17, 2012 |
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Apr 17, 2012 04:54
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I still have a case of the Rogue XS and can't bring myself to recommend to any customers - not when there are bottles of Yeti, Rasputin, etc sitting just around the corner.
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FreelanceSocialist posted:I still have a case of the Rogue XS and can't bring myself to recommend to any customers - not when there are bottles of Yeti, Rasputin, etc sitting just around the corner. It's loving terrible and massively overpriced. This is a piece of poo poo beer and I wish I'd bought a 6 pack of Bud Light Platinum, my face is stone straight right now.
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A local store to me bought a case of the Rogue XS IIPA in small bottles as a 'test batch' to see if they would sell well. Needless to say, I think they still have 3/4 of the case left. I had debated buying a bottle just to try it, because I think it's one of the few Rogue beers I might actually enjoy... but I really don't want to support a company like them, and it is wayyyy overpriced. Midorka posted:It's loving terrible and massively overpriced. This is a piece of poo poo beer and I wish I'd bought a 6 pack of Bud Light Platinum, my face is stone straight right now. Oh come on, you know you would have preferred to buy a 6 pack of a good craft beer. gently caress BL. I know what you're saying though, that even BLP would be better than XS.
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funkybottoms posted:drank my bottle of Westbrook's Mexican Cake this evening and i'm not sure i've had a sweeter beer outside of Southern Tier. like, if i took a sip and then licked my lips, i could taste sweet. the beer had a fair amount of roastiness, along with a lot of vanilla, but the sweetness was really too much and the peppers couldn't do enough in the finish to balance it out. interesting, but not that great. Where did you get that? I didn't know westbrook distributed much beyond charleston. I can't lie.....I haven't had anything from them I really liked. Ipa is watery is gently caress, belgians are boring. Their white thai is refreshing enough to get hammered on when its 90 out, but too expensive to do so. Such a shame that beautiful brewery goes go waste. Edited to say that I love Berliner Weisses, and if I see lichtenhainer around ill give it a shot. LeeMajors fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Apr 17, 2012 |
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Docjowles posted:Anyone familiar with "blanche de bruxelles"? Had it on draft yesterday at Falling Rock taphouse in Denver, who usually know what they are doing to put it lightly. It was the hugest diacetyl bomb I have had in my life, it was like smelling and drinking a tub of buttered popcorn
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Goddamn, made it to Toronado in SF tonight. Biggest bunch of dickbag bartenders I've ever met in the beerscene. If they didnt have any Russian River or Deschutes that I wanted to try on tap I would have left instantly. Never before have I seen such a tremendous rear end in a top hat at a bar. Especially even AFTER he knew we were from out of town. gently caress that place.
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LeeMajors posted:Where did you get that? I didn't know westbrook distributed much beyond charleston. picked it up when i was passing through Greenville.
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wattershed posted:I keep seeing their beers, they brew a bunch of styles I really like but I haven't heard any positive reviews until now. Just saw the beer you tried for the first time tonight, I literally passed on it only because I didn't have the ability to carry one more bottle to the register. His beers are quite highly regarded both here and in their native NZ. Other than the iStout and the Big Smoke, what other 8 Wired beers are available where you are? I know he recently shipped a bunch of the Batch 31 imperial coffee stout to the US; I have a bottle in the fridge but haven't had any yet - but if it's anything like the Batch 18 which it was based off, then it'll be delicious.
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funkybottoms posted:picked it up when i was passing through Greenville. Oh I forgot that was you. Those beer Exchange guys have a megahardon for westbrook stuff.
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Munkaboo posted:Goddamn, made it to Toronado in SF tonight. Biggest bunch of dickbag bartenders I've ever met in the beerscene. If they didnt have any Russian River or Deschutes that I wanted to try on tap I would have left instantly. Never before have I seen such a tremendous rear end in a top hat at a bar. Especially even AFTER he knew we were from out of town. gently caress that place. To me, their blend of surly service (typical of just about any shithole dive bar really) is better than the pretentious hipster vibe that comes off at some "premier" beer bars in other parts of the country. I do admit that neither is ideal, but this particular bar has a reputation for pure lack of respect towards customers, so it's unfortunate that no one gave you a heads up. I happened to go during a non-peak time so it wasn't so bad and I actually managed to have a good conversation with a bartender about what I need to be trying while I'm there. You also gotta consider they are charging some pretty low prices in an expensive city. If you can make it to Beer Revolution, that is by far the best beer bar I've been to in the entire US.
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Docjowles posted:Anyone familiar with "blanche de bruxelles"? Had it on draft yesterday at Falling Rock taphouse in Denver, who usually know what they are doing to put it lightly. It was the hugest diacetyl bomb I have had in my life, it was like smelling and drinking a tub of buttered popcorn I've never had that from it, it's always been an acceptable white. Bad or poorly-treated keg. Beergeekery: Blanch de Bruxelles isn't made in Brussels, it's made miles away in Quenast. So Jean Van Roy's zwanze for 2010, which is most definitely made right in the middle of Brussels, was a white beer he named Blanche de Quenast.
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Munkaboo posted:Goddamn, made it to Toronado in SF tonight. Biggest bunch of dickbag bartenders I've ever met in the beerscene. If they didnt have any Russian River or Deschutes that I wanted to try on tap I would have left instantly. Never before have I seen such a tremendous rear end in a top hat at a bar. Especially even AFTER he knew we were from out of town. gently caress that place. 
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Munkaboo posted:Goddamn, made it to Toronado in SF tonight. Biggest bunch of dickbag bartenders I've ever met in the beerscene. If they didnt have any Russian River or Deschutes that I wanted to try on tap I would have left instantly. Never before have I seen such a tremendous rear end in a top hat at a bar. Especially even AFTER he knew we were from out of town. gently caress that place. first time i was ever in the vaunted map room in chicago (~7 years ago), i ordered something and the bartender's response was, "do you know what that is?" needless to say, i've been there less than 5 times since and never by my own choice.
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I completely forgot about picking up SAVOR tickets a couple weeks ago, and didn't realize that it was like DLD as far as how fast the presale tickets sold out. I've heard good things about it, but is it really worth $120? A few of the salons sounded pretty awesome (Terror of Terroir, Odell Woodcut, Rare Beers of Tarheel State), assuming you got a decent amount to sample. And one thing I'm curious about, since this is so huge, could I expect something like say, SXSW/GABF, where the side events are a better use of time/money? I already read that BeerAdvocate's putting together an event that Saturday. Ah well. Going to this tonight, what stands out to y'all? http://dcbeer.com/2012/04/12/global-beer-network-tap-takeover-and-large-format-raffle-at-churchkey/
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Huge_Midget posted:Yup. Only the guy that had long hair was the douchenozzle.
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air- posted:I completely forgot about picking up SAVOR tickets a couple weeks ago, and didn't realize that it was like DLD as far as how fast the presale tickets sold out. I've heard good things about it, but is it really worth $120? A few of the salons sounded pretty awesome (Terror of Terroir, Odell Woodcut, Rare Beers of Tarheel State), assuming you got a decent amount to sample. And one thing I'm curious about, since this is so huge, could I expect something like say, SXSW/GABF, where the side events are a better use of time/money? I already read that BeerAdvocate's putting together an event that Saturday. I've been to SAVOR twice and I don't think it's worth the money. The salons are hit and miss. Why are you asking, though, if you missed ticket sales?
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ShaneB posted:I've been to SAVOR twice and I don't think it's worth the money. The salons are hit and miss. Asking because I wasn't sure if I should be bothered to look for that inevitable person trying to get rid of their tickets. It sounded like the salons were additional money on top of the registration fee too! So forget it, I'll just go hit tap takeovers at Churchkey or whatever else is happening.
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SonicDefiance posted:His beers are quite highly regarded both here and in their native NZ. Other than the iStout and the Big Smoke, what other 8 Wired beers are available where you are? I know he recently shipped a bunch of the Batch 31 imperial coffee stout to the US; I have a bottle in the fridge but haven't had any yet - but if it's anything like the Batch 18 which it was based off, then it'll be delicious. Ah poo poo, yeah, it was the Batch 31 I saw last night. We also get the quad and I think maybe a saison?
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Victory is getting huge. They are opening a 2nd brewery! http://victorybeer.com/blog/more-victory-to-love/
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Managed to score a can of Heady Topper today in the Philly suburbs. Feels good, man.
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danbanana posted:first time i was ever in the vaunted map room in chicago (~7 years ago), i ordered something and the bartender's response was, "do you know what that is?" needless to say, i've been there less than 5 times since and never by my own choice. To be fair, sometimes people ask for the strongest or most unusual beer without having a clue whether they even enjoy the style, and bartenders often like to give recommendations and steer people in the direction of something they'll like. The bartender may have just worded his or her question poorly. Personally, I've generally had good service at the Map Room and enjoy stopping by once in a while. Hopleaf, however, is almost as notorious as the Toronado for having dickbag bartenders, and for good reason. In my experience, and those of my friends, the bartenders tend to be inattentive, rude, and not terribly knowledgeable about the beer. If it weren't for their excellent kitchen and great selection - as well as having a nice location in Andersonville - I'd never go. As it is, I find myself patronizing the other good bars in Chicago far more often. Really though, I'm stumped as to why bars like Hopleaf and Toronado get away with fuckstickery so regularly. Beer is supposed to bring people together, not be another excuse to be a dick and make yourself feel superior! You're supposed to advocate beer and bring more people into the fold, not drive them away! Attitudes like that are the entire reason the term "beer snob" still exists. Docjowles posted:Anyone familiar with "blanche de bruxelles"? Had it on draft yesterday at Falling Rock taphouse in Denver, who usually know what they are doing to put it lightly. It was the hugest diacetyl bomb I have had in my life, it was like smelling and drinking a tub of buttered popcorn I've had Blanche de Bruxelles a few times, and I've never tasted any diacetyl in it. It tends to be a pretty solid Belgian witbier. Either the keg was off or the bar's lines were filthy. Speaking of witbier, I made a stop at Revolution Brewery for the first time in a while yesterday, and their Bottoms-Up Wit is still one of my favorite American-made examples of the style. Creamy in body but still refreshing, with nice wheat tartness and citrus aroma. I followed it with their Poetic Justice, an English bitter made with a newer variety of hop called Sonnet. Does anybody have experience with this one? Supposedly it's a relative of the Goldings lineage, and it definitely had some nice floral, earthy English hop character to it. RocketMermaid fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Apr 17, 2012 |
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