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mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

LeeMajors posted:

If I hadn't had any idea, I would've been pretty confused. It lived up to what I expected though--which was a low-abv, crisp and slightly tart Berliner. I love it.

Also, to the saison comment above ^^^, I will never tire of espousing my love of Colette. :swoon:

Oh man, Colette... so goooooooood. So so goooooood. And relatively dangerous, at 7%. Sure does hide that inevitable kick in the brain pretty drat well. Had Great Divide's Hades for the first time recently as well. I'm really digging their stuff so far.

EDIT: The first time I tried Colette I wasn't paying attention to the abv and had a few on an empty stomach. For some strange reason, by the time I was ready to make the homemade pizza we were having for dinner, I was unusually jubilant. You know those pictures they show of the different kinds of webs a spider will make, depending on what kind of drug they're exposed to? Well, it sort of reminded me of that. Normal pizza= round. My Colette pizza, however, held the shape of a patch of lichen growing on the side of a rock. Was still good, just wonky.

mysterious frankie fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Apr 18, 2012

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deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Just put in an order from LetsPour.com, they just listed bottles of Russian River Sanctification, and I've been wanting to try one of their sours. Got that, a Bear Republic Red Rocket, Elysian Jasmine IPA, Ninkasi Tricerhops, Deschutes Hop Henge, and Hopworks Organic IPA for a hair under 42 bucks shipped, which isn't an awful deal for an internet order at all.

Now let's see how the shipping turns out. :v:

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

mysterious frankie posted:

Had Great Divide's Hades for the first time recently as well. I'm really digging their stuff so far.

I finally got around to having their Belgian Style Yeti the other day at the taproom, loving outstanding. Regular Yeti, and especially oak aged, are bordering on too intensely bitter for me but the fruity-sweet Belgian character totally mellows it out and makes for an amazing beer.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Docjowles posted:

I finally got around to having their Belgian Style Yeti the other day at the taproom, loving outstanding. Regular Yeti, and especially oak aged, are bordering on too intensely bitter for me but the fruity-sweet Belgian character totally mellows it out and makes for an amazing beer.

I saw they had that at stock in the place near me recently. Think a taste is in my imminent future. Great Divide has been occupying my mind a lot lately.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Docjowles posted:

I finally got around to having their Belgian Style Yeti the other day at the taproom, loving outstanding. Regular Yeti, and especially oak aged, are bordering on too intensely bitter for me but the fruity-sweet Belgian character totally mellows it out and makes for an amazing beer.

I think Belgian is my favourite variation on it, actually. I think the chocolate oak version is supposed to drop soon, so hopefully I can complete my yeti collection.

Schpyder
Jun 13, 2002

Attackle Grackle

Alright, Sirotan, you and Whisker Biscuit talked up Biere de Mars pretty good, so I grabbed a bomber from my local yesterday. I am drinking it now.

It's... really goddamn good. I just had a Bam Noire a week or so ago, and this reminds me of that except a little lighter and a good bit more tart. Really good. If it weren't 7%ABV, this would be a great session beer, assuming you like sours.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

crazyfish posted:

I think Belgian is my favourite variation on it, actually. I think the chocolate oak version is supposed to drop soon, so hopefully I can complete my yeti collection.

They had it on at the taproom, so yeah, I'd expect to see it in bottles soon. Also noted some stuff aging in bourbon and wine barrels, so there may be some interesting barrel aged releases coming at some point.

I'm kind of amazed at how widely available they are, the brewery is hilariously small.

Aopeth
Apr 26, 2005
In money we trust, united we spend.

deadwing posted:

Just put in an order from LetsPour.com...

This is amazing and you are amazing for sharing it. Spun for those coupons and got six beers for $44 bucks shipped.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
Just regular old Yeti; I didn't know there were so many variations. Got some anyways, along with a bottle of Boulevard Harvest Dance, which I'm excited to try. It'll be my first wheatwine!

Liking the Yeti so far. It's a toffee/coffee/dark chocolate beershake.

Also, forgot about my pledge to buy out that Cantillon supply last weekend. As predicted, I missed my chance, giving some other lucky bastard(s) a chance to clean 'em out. Just one little ol' dusty bottle of Orval was left hanging out on the shelf near where I found the Cantillon, as if put there intentionally to mock me.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Schpyder posted:

Alright, Sirotan, you and Whisker Biscuit talked up Biere de Mars pretty good, so I grabbed a bomber from my local yesterday. I am drinking it now.

It's... really goddamn good. I just had a Bam Noire a week or so ago, and this reminds me of that except a little lighter and a good bit more tart. Really good. If it weren't 7%ABV, this would be a great session beer, assuming you like sours.

If you ever get a chance, the Grand Reserve version is even better.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
I think the reason I don't drink many session beers right now is that I don't have any reason to - my work schedule makes it tough to have a normal social life, so any drinking I do tends to be a single, high-grav, unique beer when I get home from work. During the winter it was a glass of whiskey, so I suppose I'm treating many of these beers more like liquor than beer.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
Can any knowledgeable people explain why New Glarus doesn't ship to Illinois/Chicago? I don't understand the nuts and bolts behind distribution & it seems silly since we border Wisconsin. One of the local liquor stores secreted some across the border and I really dug what I was able to try before the kibosh was put on their bootlegging operation.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
They used to. They have enough demand in their existing markets (demand is greater than supply) and the distributor they had in IL got bought out and some contract negotiation went on for a bit before NG decided they didn't want to continue. No reason to deal with the logistics of working with yet another distributor when you probably can't guarantee supply volume to a secondary market.

edit: The supply-versus-demand thing is why when we expect ten cases of KBS, we get one. When we order six of Hopslam and are told "Yup, you'll get six", the truck shows up with two. Etc. The distributor does their best, but in the end it is all paperwork and headaches and limited supply and pouty customers (actually, with beer snobs, it tends to be shouty rear end in a top hat customers who don't understand the three tier system).

edit 2: And let's not even start on state-controlled stuff. In my state, if the commission doesn't have the product approved for whatever reason (typically, >15% ABV is the biggest hurdle), then you can't get it. Even if you can get every other beer from that brewery. Sometimes they don't review and approve a beer until after it has been discontinued. Bureaucracy.

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Apr 19, 2012

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Aopeth posted:

This is amazing and you are amazing for sharing it. Spun for those coupons and got six beers for $44 bucks shipped.

Yeah, I've been waiting for people to get their beers in before placing my order, and the consensus seems to be that beers are fresh and reasonably packaged. I've been at a loss for new releases in my area recently, so this'll satiate my urge for new things for a couple weeks.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Wow, LetsPour's prices are surprisingly good. I would have trouble beating the $52/six stout pack, for instance.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Wow, LetsPour's prices are surprisingly good. I would have trouble beating the $52/six stout pack, for instance.

Yeah, there's obviously some markup in places that they're making back in loss leaders. When I ordered the Sanctification, it was nine dollars per bottle, which from my understanding is pretty drat cheap. No wonder they're already sold out. But Rouge Chocolate Stout for 9.50, Hop Stoopid for 7.60, Yeti for 10.80, about a two-dollar markup seems to be common. That's easily negated by winning ten bucks on their spinny wheel thing though.

That stupid spinny wheel is a great marketing tactic though, it's kept me going back every day to see if I can get a coupon code worth more than $10. I don't even know if you can, but damnit I'm going to keep trying!

deadwing fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Apr 19, 2012

Valencia
Feb 1, 2005

Cyril, go lock up the product before Cokie Monster here gobbles it all up.

:catdrugs:
Apparently tomorrow's Tap Nite at my favorite bar is a Southern Tier takeover :dance: I know ST can be highly divisive/love-'em-or-hate-'em for lots of people, but I'm a fan and am looking forward to tomorrow night. They're going to have Mokah, Jahva, Creme Brulee and Pumking- I've only ever had Pumking on draft and Creme Brulee bottled. I can't wait to try the other two, it's going to be an awesome evening.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Valencia posted:

Apparently tomorrow's Tap Nite at my favorite bar is a Southern Tier takeover :dance: I know ST can be highly divisive/love-'em-or-hate-'em for lots of people, but I'm a fan and am looking forward to tomorrow night. They're going to have Mokah, Jahva, Creme Brulee and Pumking- I've only ever had Pumking on draft and Creme Brulee bottled. I can't wait to try the other two, it's going to be an awesome evening.

Oh man godspeed.

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Interworld and the New Innocence

deadwing posted:

That stupid spinny wheel is a great marketing tactic though, it's kept me going back every day to see if I can get a coupon code worth more than $10. I don't even know if you can, but damnit I'm going to keep trying!

I liked it on Facebook and tweeted it, for a total of 11 tries, and only got the $10 one :(

Imperial IPAs it is.

TenaciousTomato fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Apr 19, 2012

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
This Harvest Dance is really nice. You've got the banana and clove of a hefeweizen plus really mild oak and papaya or mango- can't really nail it down yet- with a really smooth bubbly finish. Recommended. Highly recommended.

mysterious frankie fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Apr 19, 2012

CalvinDooglas
Dec 5, 2002

Watch For Fleeing Immigrants
Nice to see the Great Divide chatter. They've been one of my favorite breweries for years.

I had their Belgian Yeti at the taproom on a few occasions and it's awesomeness always surprised me. Colette was one of my favorites. Pretty much everything they make is a unique and excellent example of the style.

ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007
Dammit DFH, stop doing this and start distributing 60/90/120 to where I live.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OhP7NVrVEfA!

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
So you want a brewery to distribute to where you live? :colbert:

internet celebrity
Jun 23, 2006

College Slice

ColHannibal posted:

Dammit DFH, stop doing this and start distributing 60/75/90/120 to where I live.

Fixed.

On the topic of sessionable beers, has anyone had the Anderson Valley Summer Solstice? One of my local bottle shops got it in and god drat it tastes exactly like cream soda. This is definitely going to be my beach beer this year.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

FreelanceSocialist posted:

They used to. They have enough demand in their existing markets (demand is greater than supply) and the distributor they had in IL got bought out and some contract negotiation went on for a bit before NG decided they didn't want to continue. No reason to deal with the logistics of working with yet another distributor when you probably can't guarantee supply volume to a secondary market.

i had no idea that they ever did this. according to wiki, they pulled out in 2002, so it makes sense why i never noticed. personally, i find most of the NG stuff drinkable but not particularly great, although road slush is a very good stout (heavy chocolate flavor) and though i generally avoid fruit beers, their raspberry tart and wisconsin belgian red are really great.

similarly, surly had about a year of distro in chicago until they had to pull back. at a random liquor store just outside of st. plaul this weekend, i asked the clerk if they carried them. he told me that they're 2 years into a 4 (!!) year waiting list. surly can't even supply the demand 20 miles from their brewery!

and of course this reminds me of the period when bells wasn't distro'd in illinois due to larry bell's feud with his distro. that lead to a summer of me bringing cases of two hearted across the border every time i was in WI. ah, the days of being a beer smuggler...

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

After as long as I've waited to try it it's nearly bound to disappoint me, but word on the street (BA forums) is that Deviant Dale's has hit CT. Gonna go hunt some down after work today.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

internet celebrity posted:

On the topic of sessionable beers, has anyone had the Anderson Valley Summer Solstice? One of my local bottle shops got it in and god drat it tastes exactly like cream soda. This is definitely going to be my beach beer this year.

i agree about the taste, but it's so sweet and sticky that i wouldn't consider it a session beer. to each their own, of course.

was fortunate to attend a fairly exclusive sour tasting last night. among the more notable of the many bottles were Cascade Vine, which had a honeysuckle and grape thing going on that i didn't really care for; RR Sanctification, Supplication, and Consecration, all of which were excellent, with the latter being one of my favorites for the evening (also some fresh Pliny, which my non-IPA self found rather tasty, although that may have had something to do with it being a palate cleanser); decent-but-unremakable Hair of the Dog Michael; Lost Abbey Red Poppy, one of the other highlights for me; Le Terroir, which tasted more of grapefruit juice than beer; and, well, you get the point. there was enough that by the time the Cantillon Gueuze and 2006 Bon Chien got popped hardly anyone got excited. interestingly enough, most people's highlights were the bottles i brought; Bruery Oude Tart and Kriek de Ranke. the former i found excellent, complex yet balanced, but the latter... it was good- tart, dry, light, and funky- but kind of lacking in cherry. people were loving it, but after more than a dozen sours, i'm hoping that was more palate fatigue on my part.

i have a feeling the rest of my week will not be nearly as cool as my Wednesday night.

Manky
Mar 20, 2007


Fun Shoe
Last night I finally tried making beer can chicken with a can of Ten Fidy. Unfortunately it totally flopped. Problem one was that the chicken I got sucked - really low quality, wasn't even plucked well. Problem two I was anticipating as a possibility - instead of boiling over and infusing the chicken with deliciousness, at the end of 90 minutes the chicken was done but the can was as full as when it started. I think it's just too thick and rich.

I was really disappointed, I'm going back and trying again soon. I'm going to get a lighter beer this time, I'm thinking Sly Fox's dunkel maybe. And definitely a much better chicken. I wish I had a grill, making beer can chicken in the oven is just vaguely emasculating.

SnowDog
Oct 26, 2004

Valencia posted:

Apparently tomorrow's Tap Nite at my favorite bar is a Southern Tier takeover :dance: I know ST can be highly divisive/love-'em-or-hate-'em for lots of people, but I'm a fan

I discovered ST this past winter, when I fell in love with their Old Man Winter, which my local family restaurant had in bottles as a seasonal.

When Spring arrived and they started selling it on clearance for $2/bottle I was a pretty happy man.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Beer can chicken with the empty Ten Fidy and some DFH Saison du Buff!

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

crazyfish posted:

I think Belgian is my favourite variation on it, actually. I think the chocolate oak version is supposed to drop soon, so hopefully I can complete my yeti collection.

Belgian is my favorite too, god is it so loving creamy and delicious.

As for beer can cooking, no thanks. There's too many chemicals that could cause harm over time thanks to the specially lined cans and such. It just doesn't seem worth it to me.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Midorka posted:

As for beer can cooking, no thanks. There's too many chemicals that could cause harm over time thanks to the specially lined cans and such. It just doesn't seem worth it to me.

If you're that worried about BPA, you probably shouldn't be drinking what comes out of those cans on a regular basis, then. I'm more concerned about the inks etc. on the outside of the can.

CalvinDooglas
Dec 5, 2002

Watch For Fleeing Immigrants
I think you generally use a lighter beer for cooking. The dark malts and hops can become astringent when cooked.

ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007
They make stands that are proper material as opposed to beer can lining. Plus you should use lost coast tangerine wheat.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Phanatic posted:

If you're that worried about BPA, you probably shouldn't be drinking what comes out of those cans on a regular basis, then. I'm more concerned about the inks etc. on the outside of the can.

Well that's part of my concerns as well, there's just a lot more chemicals used these days compared to cans of the past from what I understand making them more potentially dangerous to use when cooking.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

FreelanceSocialist posted:

They used to. They have enough demand in their existing markets (demand is greater than supply) and the distributor they had in IL got bought out and some contract negotiation went on for a bit before NG decided they didn't want to continue. No reason to deal with the logistics of working with yet another distributor when you probably can't guarantee supply volume to a secondary market.

edit: The supply-versus-demand thing is why when we expect ten cases of KBS, we get one. When we order six of Hopslam and are told "Yup, you'll get six", the truck shows up with two. Etc. The distributor does their best, but in the end it is all paperwork and headaches and limited supply and pouty customers (actually, with beer snobs, it tends to be shouty rear end in a top hat customers who don't understand the three tier system).

edit 2: And let's not even start on state-controlled stuff. In my state, if the commission doesn't have the product approved for whatever reason (typically, >15% ABV is the biggest hurdle), then you can't get it. Even if you can get every other beer from that brewery. Sometimes they don't review and approve a beer until after it has been discontinued. Bureaucracy.

Well that's just unamerican :colbert:

If I actually buy a car, just so I can cross the border and pick up their stuff, I will have accidentally proven myself mentally unfit to drive. Should be a question they ask at the DMV.

Manky
Mar 20, 2007


Fun Shoe
Beer can linings are designed not to leach into the beer, so...Whatever. I'm not going to worry about it. I'm not taking a blowtorch to it, if it can't handle an internal temperature of like 200 some degrees then that's some crappy aluminum.

I'm also morally opposed to spending $25 (source: Amazon) on a stainless steel replacement for the simplicity of sitting a chicken on a can of beer.

I haven't seen Lost Coast in my neck of the eastern/central PA woods yet, but I'll keep my eyes peeled! I definitely need to use a lighter beer. We tried reducing the chicken fat and grease with the leftover ten fidy into a gravy, and it worked - kind of. It was really, really bitter, though not totally unpleasant or inedible. But I wouldn't try it again.

Mikey Purp
Sep 30, 2008

I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.
I would never recommend using good beer for beer can chicken. There is a lot of debate as to whether the beer does anything at all regardless of what brew you use, and even if it did impart some modicum of flavor, the majority of the flavor compounds in a beer like Ten Fidy would have no way of actually getting into the meat of the chicken. MAYBE a very hoppy beer with a lot of volatile hop oils would make a difference, but something like a stout? Nope.

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


I got something special last night. Something very, very special. Something exclusive - in fact, it's a world first as far as I'm aware.

I hope you ladies and gentlemen of the Beer Thread are capable of appreciating it as much as I do. I hope you can see that we're here at the beginning of a revolution in brewing.

It's signed by the brewer and numbered (7 of 20 produced). It's one of the rarest single-run productions ever. I'm having trouble articulating just how rare, special, and revolutionary this is. It's truly astounding.

:smug:

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deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Drink directly from the can for notes of rare wax.

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