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VikingSkull posted:Reading the comments on some of the news sites is hilarious. People are still bitching that Houston didn't get one, and they are boggled that the Intrepid is getting one. One literally said "why would an aircraft carrier get NASA stuff". gently caress you right back. Every loving astronaut trained at JSC, mission control is at JSC. A shuttle would look real nice sitting next to our Saturn V. gently caress NYC and gently caress that smug bastard Chuck Schumer for gloating.
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PhotoKirk posted:gently caress NYC and gently caress that smug bastard Chuck Schumer for gloating. I can actually get behind this idea.
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slidebite posted:Wasn't it someone here that said Texas already got Columbia? Yup.
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Ridge_Runner_5 posted:Didn't NASA require that whoever gets the shuttles stores them indoors at all times? How is the Intrepid going to deal with that? quote:The shuttle will then be lifted by crane and placed on the flight deck of the Intrepid where it will be on exhibit to the public starting this summer in a temporary climate-controlled pavilion that will feature innovative elements in an exciting and immersive experience for visitors. The Intrepid continues to work on a permanent exhibit facility to showcase Enterprise that will enhance the museum’s space-related exhibits and education curriculum.
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Ridge_Runner_5 posted:Didn't NASA require that whoever gets the shuttles stores them indoors at all times? How is the Intrepid going to deal with that? They're going to build a glass hanger for their space exhibit on pier 86, apparently.
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Ah, okay. Wasn't sure if they had come up with something yet, or were just going to slap it somewhere in that 150sq ft of deck they had left.
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Ridge_Runner_5 posted:Didn't NASA require that whoever gets the shuttles stores them indoors at all times? How is the Intrepid going to deal with that? OTOH, it makes sense they would only need a plan at bid time, rather than a finished build.
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From what I heard from some NASA folk when I was down in Orlando, one of the reasons Houston didn't end up with a shuttle is that they half-assed their proposal and Hutchison/Cornyn et al didn't put much effort into pushing for it. The general attitude was "well of course Houston's going to get one!  " and didn't bother taking the selection process seriously, and then when it ended up getting sent to NYC they starting pissing and moaning about it.Don't know how much truth there is to it but it certainly wouldn't surprise me.
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Totally didn't realize Thunder Over Louisville was this weekend. Anyone know where I could find a map of the plane flight paths? I'm not having luck with google and flightaware. I want to find a good park to view the planes from since I didn't get in early enough on the prime locations.
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More Discovery.
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Was the Enterprise decision made by NASA or the Smithsonian?
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Ola posted:Really if anything should be the product of that relationship it should be an X-37, aka the derpiest shuttle: 
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Ola posted:Hahaha, I can't believe I almost missed the end of that .gif In airplane related news, anyone in South Carolina on May 5-6 should come by Shaw AFB for the bi-annual Shaw Air Expo. This year's lineup isn't nearly as great as previous years due to budget cuts, but it's still something. I just can't believe they have an F-22 flying down from Langley for a static display and it won't even be doing an aerial display. I think the performance I'm most excited for is the L-6 "Jelly Belly Plane", which was there 2 years ago. Seeing that little Piper Cub do its thing was way cooler than anything else that was there, including the T-Birds. 
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Terrifying Effigies posted:Really if anything should be the product of that relationship it should be an X-37, aka the derpiest shuttle: It looks like an Orca.
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pkells posted:Hahaha, I can't believe I almost missed the end of that .gif Yeah kind of pissed me off too about the Raptor. Maybe we'll get lucky and something will show up that isn't on the schedule. Like the B2 that flew over to the Beaufort show last year. That 4 ship F-16 demo with 'splosions should be neat.
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Preoptopus posted:I guess while we are at it... That picture makes me chuckle, because it reminds me of what AW&ST did at the B-2's first public unveiling...it was at Plant 42, and the USAF had that poo poo on lockdown. Obviously what they were most concerned about was people seeing the planform and the suppressed exhaust, so they make sure that people on the ground could only take pictures from the front. Key word there is "on the ground," because since they neglected to throw up any sort of airspace restriction AW&ST just flew a Cessna over and took pictures of everything the USAF didn't want them to see. slidebite posted:Wasn't it someone here that said Texas already got Columbia? Ice cold. pkells posted:I just can't believe they have an F-22 flying down from Langley for a static display and it won't even be doing an aerial display. Generally speaking you only see non-demo team pilots flying a demo if they are at home station and have time to go through the approval process/getting everything squared away legally (IIRC there's a less rigorous approval process if you are doing a one-time deal at only one base instead of the approval process the demo team has to go through). So basically unless you get the demo team (there's only one jet) or you go to the Langley, Elmendorf, Tyndall, or Holloman (if they even still have Raptors there) shows, you aren't going to see an F-22 aerial display.
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Terrifying Effigies posted:Is there a larger version/source for that? Because I'd seriously frame that on my wall. Slo-Tek posted:Pretty sure that I've seen it in color, and that it is a photoshop. For one thing, that isn't the cape in the background. Preoptopus posted:nuts Hey boys, I've got a present for you   Click for 3k*1.5k That's Challenger rolling through the fog on the way to the launch pad. Here's the official NASA page on the image: http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/detail.cfm?mediaid=23304
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I've just read this and now I'm a bit confused. Isn't the F-35C meant to be the Super Hornet replacement? http://defensetech.org/2012/04/16/the-navy-kicks-off-the-search-for-its-next-fighter "Speaking of F/A-XX, the Navy’s planned 6th generation fighter that will replace the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, below you’ll find the Navy’s brand new Request for Information on the aircraft. By Brand new, I mean it just dropped on Friday. Whatever jet is selected will hopefully replace the Super Hornets around 2030, said Rear Adm. Donald Gaddis this afternoon at the Navy League’s annual Sea, Air, Space conference in National Harbor, Md. Before the Navy can settle on the final capabilities such a plane will have, it needs to know what types of technology the defense industry can bring to the table for a brand new fighter that will be fielded in less than two decades, said Gaddis. The new jet must be able to survive in anti-access environment, have next-gen sensors and maybe even the ability to ‘buddy’ refuel other fighters and perform airborne early warning (AEW) duties, according to Gaddis."
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Skipping the 5th generation altogether. A gently caress the Air Force move if I've ever seen one.
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The -C model is probably done now. The UK have changed their mind yet again (STOVL! No, cats! No, STOVL! No, cats! No, STOVL!) and the USN hates single engined planes.
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Hoopy Frood posted:I've just read this and now I'm a bit confused. Isn't the F-35C meant to be the Super Hornet replacement? The 35C is a Hornet replacement.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Skipping the 5th generation altogether. F-35? Octoduck posted:The 35C is a Hornet replacement. It'll displace some of the Super Hornets, but yeah really it's a move to replace the older airframes and make the Navy feel less reliant on the AF in a highly contested environment.
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Yeah yeah yeah, chopper time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9ZUXNeBoHo&feature=related
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Just saw this on the news while eating lunch. http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/19/pilot-unresponsive-as-small-plane-circles-above-gulf/?hpt=hp_t2 quote:Pilot unresponsive as small plane circles above Gulf
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burtonos posted:Yeah yeah yeah, chopper time. Jesus Christ. Imagine being a red AAA vehicle trying to get that guy.
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Preoptopus posted:Just saw this on the news while eating lunch. My money is on hypoxia.
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SwimNurd posted:My money is on hypoxia. Mine too. Circling at 28,000 feet with a blue faced dead guy at the controls.
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Ran out of gas and crashed. Looks like the pilot's the only one who was on board, at least.
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Track from the A/T aviation thread:
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gently caress, that's eerie. And sad.
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Poor guy. That's a real poo poo way to go in aviation.
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I've thought about some sort of safety device on autopilots before, particularly on smaller pressurized aircraft which have had quite a few hypoxia accidents the past years (hell, even a 737). Basically it requires some input every now and then. Proceed to next waypoint Y/N? type of thing. If it doesn't get a response after escalating its flashing lights for a few seconds, descend quickly (but within safe parameters) to some sort of holding patterns and automatically squawk some pre-determined code for automated emergency descent. Thinking it through, if it takes too long to commit to a descent, all it does is contain the plane no longer in control and warn the surroundings until it runs out of fuel. I suppose what is really needed is a sensor for absolute pressure and oxygen partial pressure connected to a big klaxon and a sign that flashes loving DESCEND NOW NOW. If no response in 10 seconds, automated descent.
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Ola posted:I've thought about some sort of safety device on autopilots before, particularly on smaller pressurized aircraft which have had quite a few hypoxia accidents the past years (hell, even a 737). Basically it requires some input every now and then. Proceed to next waypoint Y/N? type of thing. If it doesn't get a response after escalating its flashing lights for a few seconds, descend quickly (but within safe parameters) to some sort of holding patterns and automatically squawk some pre-determined code for automated emergency descent. The Boeing 777 (and, I imagine, all subsequent Boeing models) and the FBW Airbuses all have a sort of "dead-man switch" mode, where progressively more noticeable alarms will go off in the cockpit if no crew input is detected for a period of time. On the topic of a "get me down" autopilot mode, the only civil aircraft I can think of that have one are the Gulfstream G650 and, incredibly, just about any light GA aircraft equipped with later revisions of the Garmin G1000 (the technology gap between a modern airliner and a modern Cessna/Piper is absolutely staggering, and not in the direction you'd think either). I imagine many more will have this feature in years to come.
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HeyEng posted:Poor guy. That's a real poo poo way to go in aviation. Getting mentally distracted as you drift into hypoxia and passing out? Honestly that's probably about the most pleasant way to die.
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Bad week for air travel. Im flying accross the pond on Sunday, I know I shouldn't be tweaked out but I cant help feel a little uneasy.. quote:Airliner crashes near Islamabad airport http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17788698 \/ Logical thinking. Thanks. 
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Preoptopus posted:Bad week for air travel. Im flying accross the pond on Sunday, I know I shouldn't be tweaked out but I cant help feel a little uneasy.. Unless you're flying over in a Cessna or a Pakistani 737 I think you'll be fine.
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manic mike posted:Nice, that looks an awful lot like the AMP program C-130s. Just so you know, AMP is dead. Sorry. I'm upset too. Instead, they are doing this: http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/systems/rtic.htm
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