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Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"
Those are great tips. I might ask my buddy to just jab my forehead to get my brain used to stuff coming at me.

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Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax
That's really good to do. I had a few eye infections last year (even posted about it here) and after one since it really hurts for a long while if even the wind moves your eyelids, I'd be careful and scared as gently caress when sparring, closing my eyes and flinching away and so on.

One way to get out of that (also posted here last year, not by me though, I can't remember who that genius was but he was smack on) or any other bad reflexes you want to unlearn for boxing is having your sparring partner smack you in the forehead a dozen times with a loose left before you go at it.

As the poster-I-can't-remember-right-now said you figure out it won't get any WORSE during sparring and stops one from being afraid of getting tagged, freeing you to step inside for counters and just generally relieving anxiety when it comes to being hit.

Adolfo Castro
Aug 6, 2002
"I think rape is fucking hilarious."
a. I'm back

b.

Xguard86 posted:

Those are great tips. I might ask my buddy to just jab my forehead to get my brain used to stuff coming at me.
http://www.izlesemmi.net/video/3MVOUu2vf-I/bas-rutten-says-brock-lesnar-should-go-train-at-golden-glory-breaks-down-ufc-126/ This exercise works great on people (the one bas reccomends for brock in 126).

c.
Good luck to all competing in the VIC Championships tomorrow-sunday.
My first competition back after the 8 month injury.

Blood For the Blood God

Rhaka
Feb 15, 2008

Practice knighthood and learn
the art that dignifies you

So, here's a dumb problem I've been running into. Very much theorycrafting, but it's kept me from signing up with gyms for ages now.

I currently do HEMA and Muay Thai. I enjoy grappling (Judo is the poo poo), and might eventually want to try and compete in MMA, so I'd like to add in some Judo or BJJ. The problem is that every single goddamn gym in town likes to give classes on the same days. Except for HEMA thursdays.

Right now I'm doing some form of striking 3-4x a week. I can add in 1 day of BJJ or 2 days of Judo, but would have to give up striking days to do so. Also I'm not certain if a single BJJ class is gonna make much of a difference, but the BJJ school is higher quality than the judo schools.

Given that I want to compete in a few years, would I be better off just doing as much striking as possible, or trying to cram in some grappling where I can?

I'd kill for a non-lovely MMA gym here.

e; Welcome back Adolfo! Body fully functional again?

Rhaka fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Apr 19, 2012

Polyrhythmic Panda
Apr 8, 2010
Another thing you can do that will help your sparring a lot is have your partner throw jabs at your forehead for awhile so you can practice parrying and slipping. He should start out slow so you can stay calm and focus on keeping your movement tight and efficient. Take it on the forehead once in awhile to make sure he's in range and not just jabbing at empty space.

Adolfo Castro
Aug 6, 2002
"I think rape is fucking hilarious."

Rhaka posted:

Given that I want to compete in a few years, would I be better off just doing as much striking as possible, or trying to cram in some grappling where I can?

I'd kill for a non-lovely MMA gym here.

e; Welcome back Adolfo! Body fully functional again?

8 months of neck rehab :-) 7k out of pocket (and that's with australian insurance). But yeh, the latest scan showed an almost full recovery. (some muscle damage and scar tissue). Been back training bjj for about 3 months now, so taking on this comp, the one that busted my neck last year. I feel good though, strongest I've been, smartest I've rolled, happiest I've been, some nerves going into this one (long break) but looking to be back on that podium.

PS. Even once a week grappling session is good, just to get you thinking in the right context, I did that for a few months before starting bjj properly. Why a few years before competing? Dedicate now, compete now.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Adolfo Castro posted:

8 months of neck rehab :-)

What happened?

Adolfo Castro
Aug 6, 2002
"I think rape is fucking hilarious."

kimbo305 posted:

What happened?
Competing last year I went into a comp with a hurt elbow, by third day my shoulder was hurting a lot. I kept training, competed in two more small round robins. Thought it was shoulder ligament damage or something, around 18th of may last year I was working on a power socket and felt a tingling in my fingers (thought I was getting electrocuted), realising that poo poo is serious I still competed on the 21st :-) but had a scan done, the scan showed a severely prolapsed disk c5-c6 on the right side, 1-1.5cm wide and 0.5 cm high.

I posted back when it happened and had an update when they said I was allowed to exercise again. Doctor said I'd never fight again and will probably be significantly limited in my training (no weights etc.) MRI, Ultra Sound, XRay, Neural Surgeon consultation later, my options are spine fusion or long as rehab.

A month without exercise almost killed me, I posted a video here of me doing lunges after finally being told I could do some basic leg work (no cardio though). Had a great rehab specialist who I was visiting twice a week for an hour session at a rehabilitation clinic that does a lot of the football players here (aussy rules). Slowly the pains stopped, then the tingling. Then I was told I could roll a bit.

It's been a ride. From showing up at bjj gym crying, to rolling again. One line f'ing sticks with me. When the doctor sat me down in his rantings of the life changes and things like that. "It's okay to let the girlfriend carry the shopping sometimes." that line haunts me and drives me.

PS, first time I walked back in and EVERYONE'S an f'ing blue belt :-) Sucks as I was just about to get blue before the injury, think it's not far away now (probably straight after comp Pete doesn't do gradings or stripes, just hands you a belt, but gently caress does he make you work for it).

Adolfo Castro fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Apr 19, 2012

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

I haven't been training Muay Thai very long but I love it. I already know in the future I'll want to travel to Thailand and train. I'm not trying to become some MMA fighter. Just for the experience mostly. I won't do it anytime soon but what was your guys experience? Where? Etc? I'd love to do at least a month. Might have to do more to fit partying and traveling around in.

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry
Ah, Adolfo, I'm so glad you're back to competing and training again! Your situation sounded loving horrible, and it was heartbreaking when you posted about the doctor saying you couldn't do any training anymore.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Christoff posted:

I haven't been training Muay Thai very long but I love it. I already know in the future I'll want to travel to Thailand and train. I'm not trying to become some MMA fighter. Just for the experience mostly. I won't do it anytime soon but what was your guys experience? Where? Etc? I'd love to do at least a month. Might have to do more to fit partying and traveling around in.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3409544&userid=31440#post395548451

Rhaka
Feb 15, 2008

Practice knighthood and learn
the art that dignifies you

Adolfo Castro posted:

PS. Even once a week grappling session is good, just to get you thinking in the right context, I did that for a few months before starting bjj properly. Why a few years before competing? Dedicate now, compete now.

I like the cut of your jib. Mainly I don't want to be *that* new guy immediately pestering trainers about fighting before I know how to, but yeah, I'd like to fight as soon as I'm able to. And hrm, if 1 class a week isn't a complete waste of time, it might be feasible to do so...

Also, man, glad to hear you're doing okay. Felt so bad when I read about your problems--not being able to do the things you love doing is the worst loving feeling in the world.

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008
I'm still a beginner in muay thai, had to take a month or so off following surgery and just got back into it. We did a warm-up exercise today that I'd never seen before. One person does sit-ups, and the other person just... punches them in the stomach every time they go back down. Repeat as fast as possible for a minute.

Is this a legitimately beneficial exercise, or was our instructor just loving with us? I feel nauseous.

Polyrhythmic Panda
Apr 8, 2010
Getting punched is always a beneficial exercise.

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"

Polyrhythmic Panda posted:

Getting punched is always a beneficial exercise.

I told my friend to just jab me in the face for a warmup. He was like "what?!" But started anyway. Then the trainer came by and was like "ya, get some boys!"

In summary: boxing is retarded and great

jejeje
Dec 25, 2004
fetus

showbiz_liz posted:

I'm still a beginner in muay thai, had to take a month or so off following surgery and just got back into it. We did a warm-up exercise today that I'd never seen before. One person does sit-ups, and the other person just... punches them in the stomach every time they go back down. Repeat as fast as possible for a minute.

Is this a legitimately beneficial exercise, or was our instructor just loving with us? I feel nauseous.

The instructors at my Muay Thai gym sometimes beat our stomachs with a thai pad while we do crunches. The purpose of it is to force us to tighten our stomachs at the top of the crunch I think.

mewse
May 2, 2006

Xguard86 posted:

boxing is retarded and great

Amen

Nierbo
Dec 5, 2010

sup brah?

Xguard86 posted:

I told my friend to just jab me in the face for a warmup. He was like "what?!" But started anyway. Then the trainer came by and was like "ya, get some boys!"

Hahaha, I imagined that trainer being Stankie.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Guys, is it wrong that I think the show Bully Beatdown is pretty retarded, but at the same time very appealing towards the end? D:

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Who saw the Rios x Abril fight? I really liked Abril's shoulder and holding tactics. Not that sporting for boxing, but totally legit for me to use in kickboxing clinching. I need to learn more about how to tuck my head just right to avoid getting hit from the free arm if I choose to trap the other arm.

I also need to lean forward into my combos instead of always learning back or keeping weight on my back foot. The headbutt I'm looking to avoid never happens.

Mr Interweb posted:

Guys, is it wrong that I think the show Bully Beatdown is pretty retarded, but at the same time very appealing towards the end? D:

I hope you just enjoy seeing Jake Shields getting clowned.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Xguard86 posted:

In summary: boxing is retarded and great

:downs:

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

kimbo305 posted:

I hope you just enjoy seeing Jake Shields getting clowned.

Who doesn't?

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry
It'd be pretty cool to be hired as one of the bullies! You might get lucky and get an MMA fighter like Thomas "Wildman" Denny and actually walk away with footage of you embarrassing a real fighter

I can't even imagine how satisfying it would be to suddenly throw up a submission out of nowhere, I wonder if they'd just reshoot the entire fight

sixth and maimed
Mar 20, 2012

Fun Shoe

showbiz_liz posted:

I'm still a beginner in muay thai, had to take a month or so off following surgery and just got back into it. We did a warm-up exercise today that I'd never seen before. One person does sit-ups, and the other person just... punches them in the stomach every time they go back down. Repeat as fast as possible for a minute.

Is this a legitimately beneficial exercise, or was our instructor just loving with us? I feel nauseous.

My trainer likes to drop a medicine ball on our stomach during crunches, after which you have to pass the ball back up to him ... Wash, rince and repeat for 3 minutes.

Adolfo Castro
Aug 6, 2002
"I think rape is fucking hilarious."
I stomp on my students :-) same in return, I like doing it with leg raises, so 20 leg raises while someone stomps on your stomach continuously (on way up and down) means the muscles are tense the whole way.

Rhaka
Feb 15, 2008

Practice knighthood and learn
the art that dignifies you

Spent half tonight's class getting punched during crunches and situps. Sounds about right.

FreddyJackieTurner
May 15, 2008

It seems that when it comes to sparring(whether its boxing or MT) I'm always much more tense and nervous against somebody I know is more experienced and better than me, but if I'm with somebody my same level or lower I'm way more relaxed and can just have fun.

It seems like I'm way too defensive against guys I know who are better and all I end up doing is jabbing and covering up and circling away.

sixth and maimed
Mar 20, 2012

Fun Shoe

JohnsonsJohnson posted:

It seems that when it comes to sparring(whether its boxing or MT) I'm always much more tense and nervous against somebody I know is more experienced and better than me, but if I'm with somebody my same level or lower I'm way more relaxed and can just have fun.

It seems like I'm way too defensive against guys I know who are better and all I end up doing is jabbing and covering up and circling away.

Same here ... But the problem with that is you end as a punching bag, plus it's less of a challenge for them. So, when sparring with a better guy, I consciously make an effort to be a bit more agressive.

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene
I know the feeling. It's one thing to know that you should be more aggressive, but it's hard to get in that zone when I get teeped the second I step in to throw anything.

Guilty
May 3, 2003
Ask me about how people having a bad reaction to MSG makes them racist, because I've never heard of gluten sensitivity

attackmole posted:

I know the feeling. It's one thing to know that you should be more aggressive, but it's hard to get in that zone when I get teeped the second I step in to throw anything.

grab and throw. Or my favorite, Chamber a straight and knock away with your lead elbow, and counter with a straight.

Fell asleep in the sun while on vacation and got a sunburn all over my body. Can't wait to get back into training, sigh... Hope it goes away before sparring

edit: here's a more useful tip. I noticed that whenever I spar with people better than me, they usually try to calibrate my responses. So for example, jab-straight-switch kick, jab-straight-switch kick, jab-straight-switch-straight. What you should do is try to counter in a variety of different ways so that they cannot set the rhythm of fight. Even if they're cleaner, stronger, whatever than you are, you can always fight smarter. Focus on clean technique, and try your best to outsmart them

Guilty fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Apr 20, 2012

Adolfo Castro
Aug 6, 2002
"I think rape is fucking hilarious."

JohnsonsJohnson posted:

It seems that when it comes to sparring(whether its boxing or MT) I'm always much more tense and nervous against somebody I know is more experienced and better than me, but if I'm with somebody my same level or lower I'm way more relaxed and can just have fun.

It seems like I'm way too defensive against guys I know who are better and all I end up doing is jabbing and covering up and circling away.

That's actually fine. Do what you know but throw some combo's in. Don't over/under extend your hits. To help relax, keep your hands open inside the gloves.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Guilty posted:

Even if they're cleaner, stronger, whatever than you are, you can always fight smarter. Focus on clean technique, and try your best to outsmart them

Focusing on clean technique will help you hide your tells more and have your mind open to seeing theirs. This can help mollify the speed and experience difference.
In some ways, this is extremely mental. You have to keep your head clear and think the right things all the while confronting the looming menance of trained strikes about to land on your face and body.

Half the time I think the whole Jedi aspect of focusing while under pressure is really cool and applies to life, and the other half I don't care and I just want to spar. But maybe...they're really the same thing :pcgaming:

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry
I'm by no means a striker, but I do some sparring anyway, and I notice that as soon as I'm put under too much pressure, I stop trying to hit the other person and just start striking air- probably in some subconscious attempt to keep the distance between us to mitigate the punishment I'm receiving.

I wonder if this realisation will encourage me to do better of if I'll now just be painfully aware and embarrassed of what I'm d doing.

gimpsuitjones
Mar 27, 2007

What are you lookin at...
When I start getting hit a lot by a better striker, I start teeping a lot.



This leads to me getting dumped on my arse a lot when they catch the teep and kick out my supporting leg.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax
That ball poo poo while doing crunches is crazy I say! We only do 300 different types before boxing class without further torture.

Meat Recital
Mar 26, 2009

by zen death robot
BBJ tournament today. I'm fat as gently caress, have trained for 3 hours in the last week, and I just ate too much oatmeal. Death is imminent.

Kumo Jr.
Mar 21, 2006

JON JONES APOLOGIST #4

gimpsuitjones posted:

When I start getting hit a lot by a better striker, I start teeping a lot.



This leads to me getting dumped on my arse a lot when they catch the teep and kick out my supporting leg.

If you're an orthodox striker than try landing your teep on the opponents right side. It'll be harder for them to catch the foot with their left hand, and if they catch it with their right hand you can throw jabs while trying to break away.

Honey Badger
Jan 5, 2012

^^^ Like this, but its your mouth, and shit comes out of it.

"edit: Oh neat, babby's first avatar. Kind of a convoluted metaphor but eh..."

No, shit is actually extruding out of your mouth, and your'e a pathetic dick, shut the fuck up.
Does anyone here have any experience with Sambo? I've always been interested in the history of it and I love watching competitions, but I'm not sure how feasible finding a legitimate place to learn in the US would be. I live in Austin, Texas, so I'm sure there is a place that offers it somewhere around me. I'd be interested in doing it for the fitness aspect, but I'd love to compete as well, if possible. (As an aside, if I want to compete should I be focusing only on that one style or branch out and do like a Sambo / BJJ hybrid training?)


I guess my big questions are:

Where can I find a list of places offering Sambo in my area?

and

Is it even worth pursuing, or is it like Krav Maga where almost nobody in the US actually teaches it properly?

02-6611-0142-1
Sep 30, 2004

There is cool Sambo in the US. In the big grappling cities there is plenty of BJJ/sambo cross training, too.

Anything belonging to the organization that Steve Koepfer runs should be good. http://www.ussambo.com/sambo_school_nat_asa_members.html#tx

Apparently Reilly Bodycomb lives in Texas, and he's an absolute baller, but it doesn't look like he runs a school. It does look like there's a school close to you, though.

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gimpsuitjones
Mar 27, 2007

What are you lookin at...
Confirmed fighting on Saturday night, woooooooo...?

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