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closeted republican posted:One thing to note is that the Troll Empress seems to have a pretty poor grasp of the game mechanics. The reason why she messed with Nanna and Grandpa was so that they wouldn't have kids, with the assumption that Grandpa and Nanna would have John and Jade. She seems to have no idea that John and Jade were literally made from Grandpa and Nanna via ectobiology instead of being made naturally and that any attempt to stop this would be futile. I think it might be that the Empress was sent to B1 Medium and took a meteor out that got scratched. Thus, two Empresses were made, one sent to B1 Earth and one sent to B2 Earth. English possibly said to her, "mess with Jane and Jake so they cannot bring John and Jade into the world!" or something, and while in B2 that would mean "keep them out of the scratched Medium", in B1 the Empress would think that meant "keep them from reproducing" which would ultimately have done nothing. Or something to that effect, perhaps? I imagine B1 Empress was likely not meant to be as important and ended up resenting English for making her serve a comparatively useless role, if this is the case.
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nerdbot posted:I think it might be that the Empress was sent to B1 Medium and took a meteor out that got scratched. Thus, two Empresses were made, one sent to B1 Earth and one sent to B2 Earth. English possibly said to her, "mess with Jane and Jake so they cannot bring John and Jade into the world!" or something, and while in B2 that would mean "keep them out of the scratched Medium", in B1 the Empress would think that meant "keep them from reproducing" which would ultimately have done nothing. Or something to that effect, perhaps? Also there's the possibility that since the Empress is pretty much just Meenah with greater scope to her assholishness, maybe she just enjoys messing with people. paranoid randroid fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Apr 22, 2012 |
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Seoinin posted:Also there's the possibility that since the Empress is pretty much just Meenah with greater scope to her assholishness, maybe she just enjoys messing with people. Speaking of Meenah, there should be a point where Meenah learns about what happened to her B2 self and gets giddy at first, then goes into "gently caress MY OTHER SELF AND gently caress LE" mode because her B2 self gave up her independence to serve LE. A real punk and free spirit like Meenah would rather die than give up their independence. 
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closeted republican posted:A real punk and free spirit like Meenah would rather die than give up their independence. Earlier during the last intermission, I wondered this myself. quote:ROSE: But as it is, I think the forces opposing these players are clandestinely working toward the same goal as we are. It occurred to me that the Condensce could be surreptitiously manipulating their environment as an indirect act of rebellion towards LE, but I don't have much to go on - just the fact that we're not sure what's in it for her or if she's actually at all content with her role in his service. I could've been misreading the conversation, but the most I can say is that her motives could be seen as pretty ambiguous at this point. And a larger-scale, but slightly more subdued/planned out "gently caress YOU" against the Man seems completely within Meenah's character, even if this really isn't Meenah so to speak. e: Also on the topic of the Manvshomestuck kid, if you want impotent rage then I suggest checking out shippingsoon, but I'm 90% convinced this is a lazy troll. Homestuck fans are comically easy to rile up. gandhichan fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Apr 22, 2012 |
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gandhichan posted:e: Also on the topic of the Manvshomestuck kid, if you want impotent rage then I suggest checking out shippingsoon, but I'm 90% convinced this is a lazy troll. Homestuck fans are comically easy to rile up. Manvshomestuck has basically degraded to a regular liveblog. He still hates Rose and Jade, but at this point he's genuinely liking the story and the characters, and has stopped trying to outsmart Hussie. It's still kind of fun to watch his brain get turned into mush trying to predict everything though.
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Constable Lemon posted:Manvshomestuck has basically degraded to a regular liveblog. He still hates Rose and Jade, but at this point he's genuinely liking the story and the characters, and has stopped trying to outsmart Hussie. On that note, is stuff like this: quote:Okay, Green Guy, the one who was temporally coerced into befriending Rose. Got that. Um, normal with 15 year olds? Like, really hating fictional 13 year old girls and praying really hard and fantasizing about their violent death every time they show up? Because I can't tell if it's being played up for comedic effect or if the kid doesn't realize how weird he sounds. Then again I'm pretty sure the fandom has supplied weirder poo poo and he can be counted among them now.
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gandhichan posted:On that note, normal with 15 year olds? He's normal in that weird "person on the internet" kind of way. A normal person night use their time to read or go out, but with some people there's a disconnect and so they anime. for some reason their brain interprets this deep feeling of personal shame and loss as violence and aggression to the characters who they most relate to. They're trying to outsmart them but really they're trying to outsmart themselves. See, in this case Hussie, who is the omniscient creator, is clearly standing in for God, who cursed him with life. In outsmarting God he spites the plans that God laid out for him. If he can outsmart Hussie maybe that means he can get some kind of meaning from his existence. Also green girl is my favorite Homestuck Edit: maybe I should sleep Ominous Jazz fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Apr 22, 2012 |
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Ominous Jazz posted:He's normal in that weird "person on the internet" kind of way. A normal person night use their time to read or go out, but with some people there's a disconnect and so they anime. for some reason their brain interprets this deep feeling of personal shame and loss as violence and aggression to the characters who they most relate to. They're trying to outsmart them but really they're trying to outsmart themselves. I'm sorry, but your explanation is obviously flawed due to the lack of TVTropes links being supplied. But seriously, I think he was going for the whole "guy on the internet gets mad at things" deal, because other people have done it and look how popular they are! But yeah, he kind of takes it so far that it is just kind of weird.
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Well Manicured Man posted:I ran it through Audacity and changed the tempo to 160 and it sounded fine. I also tried to see what it sounded like at 180 and it sounded pretty good at that tempo as well. I think I'm gonna keep it at 160, it gives enough of a megaman feel.
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One of his readers asked him earlier, and he replied that he doesn't actually hate Rose or Jade or the story, he's just exaggerating his irritation.
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So basically he's the equivalent of an Angry Internet Critic for Homestuck.
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Yeah Man posted:So basically he's the equivalent of an Angry Internet Critic for Homestuck. That shippingsoon person linked above is worse. Man vs Homestuck is at least a funny sort of internet-angry, but shippingsoon just oozes bile and hatred from every word and it's offputting as all hell.
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Constable Lemon posted:Manvshomestuck has basically degraded to a regular liveblog. He still hates Rose and Jade, but at this point he's genuinely liking the story and the characters, and has stopped trying to outsmart Hussie. ShardPhoenix fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Apr 22, 2012 |
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The exact moment MvH got permanently hooked: http://manvshomestuck.tumblr.com/post/21558361831/epic-music-was-delivered-straight-from-the-gates (Also, any idea why his RSS seems to be hosed? I don't get announcements in my rss reader that he's updated until like 12 hours after he posts. Other tumblrs work just fine.)
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Bobulus posted:The exact moment MvH got permanently hooked: I think RSS is just weird with Tumblr, because I get some serious delay from Hussie's tumblr, actually.
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Some whiny dude dislikes Homestuck and blogs about it to be an attention whore, people give it attention because self-awareness eludes them apparently. In actual talking about Homestuck news: So it turns out that the entirety of humanity beyond Roxy and Dirk really are dead, not just extinct. I suppose that means the rest of their planet is just inhabited by neo-trolls or whatever. I wonder what the Condesce has used to repopulate Earth with her kin?
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We don't actually have any information on what's actually populating Earth. It could be trolls - we've already seen that it's theoretically possible to alchemize a matriorb, so one option would be that Kanaya will eventually succeed in making one and immediately have it stolen by the Condesce, who will proceed to take it back to B2 Earth on 11/11/11.
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Hamiltonian Bicycle posted:We don't actually have any information on what's actually populating Earth. It could be trolls - we've already seen that it's theoretically possible to alchemize a matriorb, so one option would be that Kanaya will eventually succeed in making one and immediately have it stolen by the Condesce, who will proceed to take it back to B2 Earth on 11/11/11. Or perhaps the Condesce could just alchemize one. She does have SBURB tech, and it's definitely popped up as an alchemization option somewhere.
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King of Solomon posted:Or perhaps the Condesce could just alchemize one. She does have SBURB tech, and it's definitely popped up as an alchemization option somewhere. RE: manvshomestuck, I'm not sure if he really hated it at first, and went native, then backpedaled to try and save face (  ) or if this really was some ankle-deep attention-grab from the start. Either way, it's still at least somewhat amusing. 
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Ominous Jazz posted:He's normal in that weird "person on the internet" kind of way. A normal person night use their time to read or go out, but with some people there's a disconnect and so they anime. for some reason their brain interprets this deep feeling of personal shame and loss as violence and aggression to the characters who they most relate to. They're trying to outsmart them but really they're trying to outsmart themselves. I kind of get the impression Man Vs Homestuck is one of those introverted nerds with low grade misogyny derived from resenting women for NEVER NOTICING WHAT A NICE GUY HE IS  It's kind of offputting.
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If you're gonna read a Homestuck blog, read Rufio's.
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Cthulhuchan posted:If you're gonna read a Homestuck blog, read Rufio's.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I kind of get the impression Man Vs Homestuck is one of those introverted nerds with low grade misogyny derived from resenting women for NEVER NOTICING WHAT A NICE GUY HE IS He's actually fifteen. Up to you to decide whether or not that's worse.
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ShardPhoenix posted:Aside from the obvious joke this one is pretty boring really :/. What obvious joke? He is actually who he claims to be.
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Cabbit posted:If this thread-- or, really, the entirety of Homestuck-- needs anything, it's more use of the categorical imperative. I want an inventory modus based around it. When you captcha something, it has to be able to fit into every card without causing a logical contradiction? An item can only be used in a way that would work for every item in your sylledex? You cannot use an item as a means to an end but only as an end in itself? Help me out here. Actually, Goonstuck could use some more philosophical modi, we have a guy who's using array! Array! Speaking of which... Bongo Bill posted:I don't know of any but Goonstuck, so yeah, let's see it. Since NLTM didn't respond to you, unless he did in secret backdoor pms, I figured I'd link you to the system we use. It's still a bit rough, and can be confusing in parts, but I like it, and luckily the creator of the system hangs out in our group and responds to feedback, so it's getting more user-friendly. There's lots of math, but once you've made your characters it flows fairly smoothly when you get the hang of it. It's got a jRPG-like feel, which sorta fits into the SBURB thing, and it allows for a lot of customization and skill building. Plus it leaves a lot up to roleplaying, as it really only covers combat, which is quite freeing. I like it! (If you need any help figuring it out, feel free to PM me. I'm sure the others wouldn't mind helping, either.) If for whatever reason you want to wade through all our logs - if, say, you want to see the system in action - you can follow it here. We're not far in, but we've already managed to pull some shenanigans like blowing up the two Derse Moon towers and getting our dream selves captured by the Black Queen. Now we have to stage a DARING RESCUE which will almost certainly end in tragedy. But yeah, I encourage people to play, even if you feel iffy about the whole ~ORIGINAL CHARACTER~ thing. Just think of it as a tabletop game, because that's basically what it is. SBURB is ripe for customization and adventure, and it's a lot of fun. Hell, Hussie even said he designed the whole thing to invite your imagination to run wild in, and even with the gray areas and iffy plot-related mechanics you can get it working easily enough. I honestly hope he makes an official SBURB pen and paper rule guide after Homestuck ends, because I'd snatch it up in a heart beat. e: the campaign also led to this. Starmaker fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Apr 22, 2012 |
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That seems awful complex a thing to use, when you could just use PDQ or something.
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Starmaker posted:Since NLTM didn't respond to you, unless he did in secret backdoor pms, I figured I'd link you to the system we use.  But yeah, there it is. If you're thinking of running it, just think of it as any other DM job, but throw some Homestuck in there. Its amount of fun is directly proportional with how batshit your players are, so keep that in mind too.
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Hey NTLM, sorry for dropping out early, but it looks like you are going along just fine. I had some issues with my character, and was pretty busy.
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I was kinda disappointed that we lost two people right off the bat, because I was curious how a six-player session would be, but it's worked out well anyways. It's easier to organize smaller groups and probably a lot easier to DM as well. All those needy players, constantly pestering with commands. We make me sick. But hey, if another group gets started you could always join them, if things have settled down for you. And I remember us discussing possible late-comers to our campaign, if you're free now. Of course, that'd be up to NLTM. NO LISTEN TO ME posted:Its amount of fun is directly proportional with how batshit your players are, so keep that in mind too. Positively proportional, or negatively  It's me isn't it. I'm ruining Goonstuck. VVVVVVV Here you go. ( Starmaker fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Apr 22, 2012 |
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I'm kind of interested in seeing how well that works - but trying to read Goonstuck really makes me wish tumblr had a general chronological display feature (rather than just per tag), or some sort of "next post" button or something. It's really bizarre that it doesn't.
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Hamiltonian Bicycle posted:I'm kind of interested in seeing how well that works - but trying to read Goonstuck really makes me wish tumblr had a general chronological display feature (rather than just per tag), or some sort of "next post" button or something. It's really bizarre that it doesn't. If you give them all a tag, you can force a chronological view on that tag Like here's my album reviews feature: http://futuresushi.tumblr.com/tagged/500in2012/ Now here it is chronologically http://futuresushi.tumblr.com/tagged/500in2012/chrono
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I know, but I can't very well tag posts on somebody else's tumblr.
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Apr 22, 2012 18:54
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"sea hitlers water apocalypse", Oh Jake .
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It's been a while since each update has left me desperately craving another. I want to know what adult Rose and Dave did.
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No but seriously Jake sounds so Irish to me and I can't figure out why, like he's supposed to be in the middle of the Pacific that's the complete opposite side of the world to be Irish on. Must be the green text.
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So the Condesce is probably kinda insane, is the big takeway from this. Dirk's tale is a bit how I imagined things going, so I'm surprised that Trolls stayed dead. Guess Lord English and/or the game doesn't want you undoing the apocalypse.
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I don't know if I can handle finding out what happened to scratch Rose and Dave . Not after reading troll ancestor torturepalooza.
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