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The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
HBO version of events: Robb marries a Lannister spy who poisons him, and King Renly goes to the wall to bail out Daenerys who is fighting Theon and his army of white walkers.

And then whores titties whores whores titties Ros sits the iron throne, season finale: Littlefinger and Tywin get married in the cloud city and then Ned wakes up at Winterfell and it was all a dream.

Because HBO is the worst poo poo to ever exist.

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bigmcgaffney
Apr 19, 2009

Tony Danza Claus posted:

Littlefinger and Tywin get married in the cloud city

Lando Calrissian is now a septon, this gonna kick rear end

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene
Spoiling the shadow baby surprise is definitely a dumb, dumb move.

I don't have faith in them bringing RW as a curveball. They're going to just spell the entire thing out in the House of the Undying, rather than coat it in clever imagery.

Bleh, this season is letting me down.

El Hefe
Oct 31, 2006

You coulda had a V8/
Instead of a tre-eight slug to yo' cranium/
I got six and I'm aimin' 'em/
Will I bust or keep you guessin'
Not even Melisandre mentions R'hllor, they just call him the "Red God", gently caress me I wanted to hear them pronounce that poo poo.

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back

El Hefe posted:

Not even Melisandre mentions R'hllor, they just call him the "Red God", gently caress me I wanted to hear them pronounce that poo poo.

What do you mean? It's pronounced R'hllor :smug:

oh, now this is just precious:

drunken officeparty posted:

I hate how they don't show big battles. Budgets shmudgets.

...

I hate the idea of the shadow baby. Get your high fantasy out of my low fantasy :arghfist:

whowhatwhere fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Apr 23, 2012

Broken Box
Jan 29, 2009

Tony Danza Claus posted:

God drat everything

Those stupid illiterate shits have a loving week to realize Stannis promised to kill Renly, and suddenly there's a demon baby sent by Stannis.

It won't be a surprise at all. It's all gone tits up.

I hate everything. They were supposed to be WILD CARDS'd and I got WILD CARDS'd.

I have nothing left to live for.

gently caress the world.

gently caress you HBO.

I'm out.

This is me. My friends were discussing the episode and the theory they stopped on was shadowbaby is there to go kill Renly. I was supposed to have my face permanently etched into the Grinch smugging it up.

But now... :negative:

Ross
May 25, 2001

German Moses
They cut out the part tonight about Ned's bones being too small.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
The bitching in this thread is better than what the TVIV reaction would've been to a Renly death anyways. Like, they definately should've had Renly die this episode but holy poo poo are you guys whiny and mad about a series you profess to hate so much. Is this what it truly means to be a wild card? To just bitch and moan that a book series you don't like wasn't adapted to your standards?

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

Ross posted:

They cut out the part tonight about Ned's bones being too small.

I noticed that too. That was disappointing, I expected Cat to say something like that when she was alone.

Makochuk posted:

The bitching in this thread is better than what the TVIV reaction would've been to a Renly death anyways. Like, they definately should've had Renly die this episode but holy poo poo are you guys whiny and mad about a series you profess to hate so much. Is this what it truly means to be a wild card? To just bitch and moan that a book series you don't like wasn't adapted to your standards?

You know nothing, Makochuk :qq:

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010
Antler Dildo was a little too much but I did find the scene where Meryn Trant in full platemail was walloping Sansa with uppercuts pretty good. Jeyne Westerling, smallfolk-rights activist could get real annoying real fast. I loved the shadow birth, although I wish we got Renly's death this week. And speaking of Renly, he should have had the peach when he was talking to his bro Stannis, I always loved when Stannis would obsess about that fuckin peach later in the books.

empty sea
Jul 17, 2011

gonna saddle my seahorse and float out to the sunset
Oh, my sweet summer children. Have you forgotten so quickly that everything touched by the GRRM turns into poo poo?

Truly Dany is our mother prophet.

EatDirt
Nov 13, 2009

savinhill posted:

Antler Dildo was a little too much

I got a boner from that.

Edited for content: I am really sad there isn't gonna be any scenes with Arya applying leaches to Roose. :smith:

EatDirt fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Apr 23, 2012

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back

Makochuk posted:

The bitching in this thread is better than what the TVIV reaction would've been to a Renly death anyways. Like, they definately should've had Renly die this episode but holy poo poo are you guys whiny and mad about a series you profess to hate so much. Is this what it truly means to be a wild card? To just bitch and moan that a book series you don't like wasn't adapted to your standards?

Yes. And about how he's not writing the books we hate. And how he's editing other books we hate even more. And then there's our forty-part RPfic of the GRRM, where he has a tea party with Maisie Williams and Emilia Clarke. And of course WILDCON, where we have our annual competition for best GRRMsplayers (the "glistening wetly" subcontest is a highlight).

e: dammit, the fanfic I made up should have been "Driving Miss Maisie".

whowhatwhere fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Apr 23, 2012

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

EatDirt posted:

I got a boner from that.

Edited for content: I am really sad there isn't gonna be any scenes with Arya applying leaches to Roose. :smith:

I remember thinking that Roose was the fat gently caress instead of Manderly back then. That made for a very pleasant mental image indeed.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Maytag posted:

I must disagree. Fiction allows authors to explore morality and the human condition with no constraints. Fantastical situations allow for taking explorations in any direction with markedly less repercussion. This is precisely why I read fantasy.

On the other hand, the vast majority of fantasy fiction turns out to be poo poo anyway.

On the other other hand, Sturgeon's law.

On the n+1th hand, after 30 years or so of reading nerdy genre poo poo I still don't mind most of it being poo poo. I require better-written poo poo to hold my attention now than I used to when I was 11, though.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Shadow baby scene was hilarious.

Also, whose idea was the Joffrey and the two prostitutes scene? Is this something GRRM regretted not putting in the book?

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
I really hope the scene after Renly biting it is Tyrion being delivered that sceptre with bits of that girls insides all over the antlers so everyone can know that no, she wasn't beating her with the sceptre.

EatDirt
Nov 13, 2009
Wow, wouldn't it be the most amazing thing if gurm was cast as Manderly? I would love to see him discussing his bowels, also his throat cut.

Wait, scratch that, Richard Griffiths would be better; he is so loving fat it would be perfect!

bigmcgaffney
Apr 19, 2009
So was that medic supposed to be Jeyne? If so, why is she now named something else, and from Volantis?

And what the hell is going on with Arya's stuff? I don't remember it in the books but it all feels off

And Margaery's still got it.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

bigmcgaffney posted:

So was that medic supposed to be Jeyne? If so, why is she now named something else, and from Volantis?

And what the hell is going on with Arya's stuff? I don't remember it in the books but it all feels off

And Margaery's still got it.

Arya's story is getting massively compacted, I think.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene

bigmcgaffney posted:

So was that medic supposed to be Jeyne? If so, why is she now named something else, and from Volantis?

And what the hell is going on with Arya's stuff? I don't remember it in the books but it all feels off

And Margaery's still got it.

The Harrenhal stuff was somewhat spot on except the addition of Tywin being there. Arya was a servant girl for her time there, but I believe her and Gendry were supposed to be separated by now and Jaqen finds her.

Rurik
Mar 5, 2010

Thief
Warrior
Gladiator
Grand Prince
Who got antlered?

Dendra
May 3, 2009
Some random whore because what this show needs is more gratuitous sex

quote:

I highly highly doubt Renly is gonna go out like a punk by some shadow baby. His loverboy maybe. Clearly losing him is what's going to kick it up a notch.

Maybe we will get some of those delicious tears after all :3

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20

Octy posted:

Also, whose idea was the Joffrey and the two prostitutes scene? Is this something GRRM regretted not putting in the book?

The next episode is going to cold open with Joffrey sitting on the iron throne lecturing the court about the virtues of The Rains of Castamere. The scene will last for forty-five minutes.

I wonder how many fanfictions are being penned at this very moment, inspired by the scene where Tyrion rescues her.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

Ross posted:

They cut out the part tonight about Ned's bones being too small.

Urdnot Fire posted:

I noticed that too. That was disappointing, I expected Cat to say something like that when she was alone.
Littlefinger already gave himself away when he gave the chest to her and said "You may not believe..."

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

Rurik posted:

Who got antlered?

Pycelle's most recent whore (Tyrion picked her himself I guess as a thank you to her for keeping quiet, great job there) by Ros

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

bigmcgaffney posted:

And Margaery's still got it.
It is known. :swoon:

Last night's ep gave me such an urge to rewatch the first two Dormer-filled seasons of The Tudors. Really one of my all-time favorite actresses.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
Worst show on tv.

"What this show needs is a love interest for Robb."

"Well he marries the Westerling girl next season..."

"Boring. Change it to a total Florence Nightingale heavy-handed bullshit schmaltz, because tv viewers are stupid."

"Alright, I guess. Next there's all this great stuff at Harrenhall where Tywin is evil and then Roose takes it but is more evil, and these dudes are killing off the bad guys..."

"No no. Just have Tywin be a good guy."

"Ok. Well next there's Renly and Catelyn and Brienne and they..."

"Cut all that. Just have some tits and Littlefinger can explain it later. With tits."

"Alright, so Joffrey..."

"Just have him rape a whore to death with some antlers. That way tv viewers will know he's evil."

"Then Renly dies..."

"No. We need more tits. Whore tits. And pregnant lady tits. More whores."

"Ok. And then lastly Dany is in a strange city where they walk around with their tits out."

"Cut that. We here at HBO are not peddlers of smut."

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

So wait, what's wrong with having more whore tits?

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Octy posted:

So wait, what's wrong with having more whore tits?

It's no longer a question of turning an 800 page book into 10 hours. They're not just cutting little things for relevant sexposition now. They're leaving out huge chunks of the book, and running episodes short. And ADDING hours worth of tits in place of story. Maybe 6 minutes of that episode was from the books. The rest is just a porno with high production values.

It's getting steadily worse, and now I'm absolutely certain between the show and pear-shaped man that GRRM didn't write the books. He stole them from some no name author and gave him hush money.

Everything GRRM is truly involved with is so terrible.

In It For The Tank posted:

I'm holding out hope that Sansa will push Joffrey the next time he lingers near a ledge over a steep drop. That's the only way I can imagine the writers (or GRRM or whoever) justify her continued existence in the show.

Compared to her sister Arya (who is literally the best :allears:), Sansa's such a waste of space.

TVIV thinks GRRM is going somewhere with all this Sansa stuff.

Sexpansion
Mar 22, 2003

DELETED

Ambiguatron posted:

Of course, I don't think that would matter, since I'm still assuming that R'hllor is actually evil.

Do you really think the gods exist in any meaningful way in aSoIaF? I highly doubt it.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

Tony Danza Claus posted:

It's no longer a question of turning an 800 page book into 10 hours. They're not just cutting little things for relevant sexposition now. They're leaving out huge chunks of the book, and running episodes short. And ADDING hours worth of tits in place of story. Maybe 6 minutes of that episode was from the books. The rest is just a porno with high production values.
I did enjoy the added jape about skilled swordsman Loras non-lethally stabbing Renly for years.

Rurik
Mar 5, 2010

Thief
Warrior
Gladiator
Grand Prince

Sexpansion posted:

Do you really think the gods exist in any meaningful way in aSoIaF? I highly doubt it.
Yeah, me too. Why would gods in a fantasy world not participate in the world's events in any way?

Maytag
Nov 4, 2006

it's enough that it all be filled with that majestic sadness that is the pleasure of tragedy.

bigmcgaffney posted:

So was that medic supposed to be Jeyne? If so, why is she now named something else, and from Volantis?

No that's not Jeyne. That's just some random field surgeon.

It's not clear the whore was hosed with the scepter. She was definitely beaten with it though.

HBO should have been smart and ended the episode with Mel revealing she's pregnant. Then people have a week to wonder "What the gently caress?!"

Also Littlefinger was really way too blatant for his character. "Oh Cat I've always loved you maybe this is a sign from the gods..." Dude wouldn't be so blunt immediately after she expresses distaste for him.

Tony Danza Claus posted:

He stole them from some no name author and gave him hush money.

This is probably true.

Rurik posted:

Yeah, me too. Why would gods in a fantasy world not participate in the world's events in any way?

Because this isn't Dragonlance or Forgotten Realms and having gods meddle in affairs lessens the audience's ability to identify with the characters. There's no true sense of struggle if Zifnab is gonna come down and clean up the mess.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Maytag posted:

This is probably true.

I'm convinced.

Look at EVERYTHING the GRUM has ever been involved in, from tv to blogs, to comics.

Look at the last two books. Look at the tv show.

Now compare all that to the first three ASOIAF books.

There's no way GRRM wrote those. He probably edited in some of the rape, and definitely the food porn, but he did not write those stories. At all. I doubt he even really read them.

How else do you explain major events and character arcs being replaced with naked women and sadism and snowballing and rape rape rape rape rape?

The complete works of GRRM have nothing in common with the ASOIAF trilogy. He is a sham, and now I want to find the real author.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
In an extremely daring twist the real author is some American guy named Tolkien.

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

Tony Danza Claus posted:

The complete works of GRRM have nothing in common with the ASOIAF trilogy. He is a sham, and now I want to find the real author.

Where do ghostwriters go?

am0kgonzo
Jun 18, 2010

Tony Danza Claus posted:

I'm convinced.

Look at EVERYTHING the GRUM has ever been involved in, from tv to blogs, to comics.

Look at the last two books. Look at the tv show.

Now compare all that to the first three ASOIAF books.

There's no way GRRM wrote those. He probably edited in some of the rape, and definitely the food porn, but he did not write those stories. At all. I doubt he even really read them.

How else do you explain major events and character arcs being replaced with naked women and sadism and snowballing and rape rape rape rape rape?

The complete works of GRRM have nothing in common with the ASOIAF trilogy. He is a sham, and now I want to find the real author.

What major events are being replaced?

Also, why don't you just stop watching the show if you hate it?

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

Rurik posted:

Yeah, me too. Why would gods in a fantasy world not participate in the world's events in any way?

GRRM basically said years ago that the question of which gods, if any, are 'real' will not be answered.

That was a pretty lovely episode. I agree they're changing/adding too much stuff for no good reason, resulting in things like Arya's story feeling truncated. Shadowbaby birth was cool though, if only in an 'that's exactly the way I pictured it' way, and I always liked that conversation about shadows being born from light, so I'm glad they included that.

Meh, roll on episode 9.

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The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

am0kgonzo posted:

Also, why don't you just stop watching the show if you hate it?

I am a professional GRRM hater. Why would I remove a source of GRRM hate?

That's stupid and you're stupid.

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