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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

ThaGhettoJew posted:

Elbow

The Seldom Seen Kid is probably their best album, as mentioned. After that, Build A Rocket Boys! or Leaders Of The Free World would be your best bet.
Their first two albums are more divisive: I much prefer Asleep In The Back to Cast Of Thousands, but check out a couple of tracks on Youtube or whatever and decide for yourself at that point.

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ThaGhettoJew
Jul 4, 2003

The world is a ghetto

Epi Lepi posted:

YMMV but I honestly think they're way more interesting live than on an album. The album Grounds for Divorce comes from, The Seldom Seen Kid, is the only one I really dig, though I just found out they had a new one come out last year.

kingturnip posted:

The Seldom Seen Kid is probably their best album, as mentioned. After that, Build A Rocket Boys! or Leaders Of The Free World would be your best bet.
Their first two albums are more divisive: I much prefer Asleep In The Back to Cast Of Thousands, but check out a couple of tracks on Youtube or whatever and decide for yourself at that point.

Thanks, you two.

flirty dental hygienist
Jul 24, 2007

All aboard the knuckle train to FIST PLANET!!
How about traditional Moroccan music? I'd prefer non-vocal if possible. Nothing new age either.

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.

Polegrinder posted:

How about traditional Moroccan music? I'd prefer non-vocal if possible. Nothing new age either.

I only know gnawa, but Mahmoud Guinia, Hassan Hakmoun and Nass El Ghiwane are the big names in that niche.

quadrophrenic
Feb 4, 2011

WIN MARNIE WIN

Epi Lepi posted:

YMMV but I honestly think they're way more interesting live than on an album. The album Grounds for Divorce comes from, The Seldom Seen Kid, is the only one I really dig, though I just found out they had a new one come out last year.

Where do I start with Smog/Bill Callahan? I love the cover of Chosen One that the Flaming Lips did on their Providing Needles for Your Balloons EP, and I like the John Peel Session recording by Bill so I'm probably going to pick up that rarities compilation he has, but I don't really know where to start with all of his other albums.

Red Apple Falls is the classic starting point, I think, and it's as good as any. Knock Knock is a great, really adorable album, too.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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Aziraphale posted:

I'm trying to branch out from my mostly metal diet to others. I like Paul Oakenfold's A Voyage ... into Trance, so I assume that I'll like trance music?

What are some good trance bands that are in the same vein as Oakenfold?

EDIT: Before I get jumped, do you call trance players DJs and not bands?

I don't think anyone has answered this yet. So in the simplest terms, trance artists and albums fall into two general types: dj mixes, where few if any tracks are by that dj -- the emphasis is on creating a seamless flow of music from various artists, with organic high points, low points, climactic points ... it should almost tell a story. The second type is a more traditional style of album where a dj or group puts out an album with a dozen tracks or whatnot.

The first type is good as it gives you an overview of great tracks and if you get into the mix can really be a great mental ride. Probably the two most famous mix sets of all time are Sasha and Digweed - Renaissance and Paul Oakenfold - Goa Mix. They're both older -- Renaissance from 95ish, Goa Mix from 92ish (available at Amazon as Goa Mix 2011) -- but are essential. I'm a big fan of Sasha and Digweed mixes in general, their Communicate mix is a bit more ... introspective, for lack of a better word. Their Northern Exposure mixes range from good to great, generally featuring slightly more downtempo mixes. Northern Exposure - Expeditions Disc 1 is one of my all time favorites.
Oakenfold gets a very mixed reaction; his early stuff is hands down great, but late 90s he focused on vocal anthemic trance, which is very easy to get into and enjoy but is rather superficial. I still enjoy it as being just fun music. Most of these mixes are not available via retail channels, but Tranceport is at Amazon and is a great overview of the late 90s club trance scene -- every track is a classic.
Probably the biggest dj at the moment is Tiesto. He also puts out albums of type 2 -- all his own stuff. Very uptempo and energetic. His Live at Trance Energy mix is great if you're able to track down a copy.

For the second type, I thoroughly recommend Juno Reactor as they rather reflect the way trance has evolved since the 90s. You can skip their first album, but their second - Beyond the Infinite - is one of the definitive goa trance albums. And then check out the rest of their work chronologically to get a feel for how trance has developed, becoming moodier and deeper over the years.

That's just to get you started, there are of course dozens of great artists -- Infected Mushroom, Shpongle, Sasha's solo work (as well as John Digweed's), Armin van Buren, etc etc

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Mar 4, 2012

flirty dental hygienist
Jul 24, 2007

All aboard the knuckle train to FIST PLANET!!

Ras Het posted:

Nass El Ghiwane

Thanks. I like this one a lot.

strap on revenge
Apr 8, 2011

that's my thing that i say
The Pineapple Thief?

I am a huge fan of Anathema and Porcupine Tree and am most keen to try this band out because I see them on the Burning Shed store all the time

ZakAce
May 15, 2007

GF
Re: Elbow.

Personally, I'm quite partial to Cast of Thousands because it has the first two songs I ever heard from them (Switching Off and Grace Under Pressure) (thank you Q magazine). Seldom Seen Kid is a good starting point (especially because it has one of their most popular songs, One Day Like This, at the end and it won the Mercury Prize, which is a big deal in Britain).

The only albums I haven't heard yet are Asleep In The Back and Build A Rocket Boys!, but I'm willing to remedy that.

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
What's a good Superchunk album to jump in on?

I've heard a song here and there, liked them but never really went for it.

doug fuckey
Jun 7, 2007

hella greenbacks
No Pocky for Kitty, maybe.

Attention Horse
Jan 5, 2012

Yo man, you are out of step with Imhotep!
Where do I start with M.I.A.?

I don't like hip-hop and world music but I think I'm gonna have to change my mind cause I just heard "Bad Girls" for the first time and it's loving amazing.

Programmable Soda
Aug 8, 2008

Attention Horse posted:

Where do I start with M.I.A.?

I don't like hip-hop and world music but I think I'm gonna have to change my mind cause I just heard "Bad Girls" for the first time and it's loving amazing.

Kala is the one with her major hit, Paper Planes, and it's got a pretty slick sound that manages to combine dance and electronica with traditional sounds from Sri Lanka, Trinidad, Jamaica, and Australia. It's pretty cool! I think Bad Girls would fit there, even if I think it's slightly bland for an M.I.A. song. Then I would move onto Arular and her first mixtape, Piracy Funds Terrorism.

Her third record, MAYA is fairly divisive among fans. Its got more of an industrial influence than her previous work, which may or may not work for you. When compared to the sound of Bad Girls, I'd say this one is pretty far off. For the record, an early version of Bad Girls can be found on the Vicki Leekx mixtape, which is not nearly as good as Piracy Funds Terrorism.

LtTennisBall
Apr 5, 2009

Blast Fantasto posted:

What's a good Superchunk album to jump in on?

I've heard a song here and there, liked them but never really went for it.

No Pocky For Kitty is where I started and is a good recommendation. You could probably go chronologically from there while listening to some of the early singles (Slack Motherfucker, etc). Foolish is a cool place to start if you want something a bit different.

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

Where do I start with Surf Rock?

Farts Domino
May 8, 2004

Southern Heel posted:

Where do I start with Surf Rock?
Dick Dale is rightfully named the King of the Surf Guitar. The Ventures are the other big name but their catalog is kinda hit or miss: I'd suggest Ventures in Space, Batman, and their live album.

Other older names worth checking out include The Revels, The Sentinals, Jerry Cole. Oher instrumental groups that aren't exactly surf (much more fuzzy, less reverb) but definitely worth investigating are Link Wray, Davie Allan and the Arrows, The Shadows.

Modern surf is a lot different and a lot more expansive sound-wise. The big names there include Los Straitjackets, Man...or Astroman?, Satan's Pilgrims, The Barbwires, and the Madeira. Double Crown records has a very good compilation out right now called Brave New Surf that's a pretty good sample of the heavy hitters.

Also I do a surf radio show...
http://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/11962/

screenwritersblues
Sep 13, 2010
For more modern surf rock, go for Best Coast's Crazy For You and Beach Fossils' Self Titled. You might like them, you might not, but they are part of the new movement of Surf Rock out there.

Farts Domino
May 8, 2004

screenwritersblues posted:

For more modern surf rock, go for Best Coast's Crazy For You and Beach Fossils' Self Titled. You might like them, you might not, but they are part of the new movement of Surf Rock out there.
No. I'm sorry, I hate to be a genre enforcer but that trend of music bares next to no resemblance to the pretty easily identified lineage of surf rock. I have seen it described as such plenty of times, but it's a lazy comparison usually made by people that have heard the term but nothing that it applies to (like calling ACDC "frat rock").

I shouldn't be a dick about it but surf is probably one of the most rigidly defined genres out there, and muddying it doesn't help either type of music. Surf rock influenced maybe, but so were the Breeders and nobody would namedrop them amongst the 90s surf rock bands.

Radio Spiricom
Aug 17, 2009

Thee Cormans record from last year on In The Red (Halloween Record w/Sound Effects) is great hosed up budget rock style Surf Rock. Like if The Mummies made their latent Surf Rock influence prominent and cut a record.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KHydrywPQo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOJgJFLeCrM

rockamiclikeavandal
Jul 2, 2010

How about The North Mississippi All Stars? I heard this song and I'm hooked but they have a whole slew of albums.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-bCERmxWGY

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Bauhaus is one of my favorite bands but I don't really know much about Tones on Tail, Love and Rockets or Peter Murphy's solo work other than what they might have played on Mtv's 120 Minutes back in the day.

Are there particular albums by any of those that would be good to start with, or would just grabbing a compilation of some kind be the way to go?

edit: Having looked it up on youtube, I think I'm still tired of "So Alive" even after having not heard it for many years now, I wonder if I'll end up liking Love & Rockets at all. :(

workinonit
Jul 11, 2009

Soylent Heliotrope posted:

Tell me about The Durutti Column.

As an enormous Smiths nerd (see avatar), I know all about Vini Reilly's involvement in Morrissey's early solo career. I'm also very much a fan of the other major bands on early-80s Factory Records and of postpunk in general. What Durutti Column albums are most accessible to someone coming in from either of those reference frames?

The first two albums, The Return of the Durutti Column and LC are absolutely essential, so definitely give those a listen. Even though The Durutti Column are up there with some of my favourite music of all time, their albums, for me, are a bit patchy from there on out. There's a lot of experimenting with wider instrumentation, some primitive dance/sampling things, neither of which really work for my liking compared to the guitar sketches of the earlier albums.

This might be a big no-no in this thread, but aside from the first two albums the Greatest Hits collection is worth a go, it's pretty varied across both time and style so you can dip in and find which elements appeal to you the most.

Reilly's also pretty prolific, releasing albums every year or two to this day, so I'm not too sure about his most recent stuff. Though according to wikipedia:

quote:

In September 2010, Vini suffered a "minor" stroke which made him lose "some feeling in his left hand”.[7][8] Despite this, in February 2011 it was reported that he is working in a new album.[9] The new tracks are slower because after the stroke he can't play as fast as he used to

:smith:

Seriously though, get the first two albums, I can't recommend them enough. I think I'd put down 'The Missing Boy' as my favourite song ever.

quadrophrenic
Feb 4, 2011

WIN MARNIE WIN
Alice Donut?

I'm a strong proponent of the theory of "just dive in" to a given discog, but I wanna get this one right for some reason.

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich

a kitten posted:

Bauhaus is one of my favorite bands but I don't really know much about Tones on Tail, Love and Rockets or Peter Murphy's solo work other than what they might have played on Mtv's 120 Minutes back in the day.

Are there particular albums by any of those that would be good to start with, or would just grabbing a compilation of some kind be the way to go?

edit: Having looked it up on youtube, I think I'm still tired of "So Alive" even after having not heard it for many years now, I wonder if I'll end up liking Love & Rockets at all. :(

Tones on Tail has a double-disc called Everything that has their one album and all the singles and b-sides so just go for that.

Love and Rockets' first three albums (Seventh Dream of Teenage Heaven, Express, and Earth, Sun, Moon) are all pretty solid but Express is the best of the bunch. The self-titled has their biggest hit ("So Alive") but it's pretty bland outside of that. Also, Earth, Sun, Moon is the least representative of their sound since it's mostly acoustic.

Peter Murphy's post-90s output never did much for me, but Deep and Cascade are high points in his career. Keep in mind that he's very light and a lot more atmospheric compared to Bauhaus and even Love and Rockets. I'd recommend Deep first though since as much as I love Cascade it can dip into adult contemporary territory at times.

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
How about Dinosaur Jr. and The Meat Puppets?

Ikari Worrier
Jul 23, 2004


Dinosaur Gum

Blast Fantasto posted:

How about Dinosaur Jr. and The Meat Puppets?

For Dinosaur Jr, You're Living All Over Me is generally considered to be the best starting point, though I think Bug or even one of their two reunion albums (Beyond, Farm) would work fairly well too.

For Meat Puppets, I'd say either Meat Puppets II or Up on the Sun. In particular, Meat Puppets II has what's probably their most well-known songs on it (mostly due to Nirvana covering a fair chunk of it with the Kirkwood bros on their Unplugged album).

beer pal
Mar 30, 2010

Merzbow?

Sun Ra?

ThaGhettoJew
Jul 4, 2003

The world is a ghetto

Blast Fantasto posted:

The Meat Puppets?

I'm going to break with TheNintenGenius about this, although both II and Up On The Sun are fantastic albums and definitely worthy starting points. To me the band seemed to be still trying to buck their noisepunk first album and weren't as musically solid as they would get later. I recommend jumping on their mid-nineties albums, Too High To Die and No Joke!, which were the last couple with all three musicians from the original lineup. They have all the weird originality of their early stuff matched with a more practiced and matured sound. You may have actually heard "Backwater" from Too High on non-college radio. Both discs are quite accessible and have some notably catchy songs.

After you've made it through those four, grab Mirage and Monsters if you like their earlier sound better, or Forbidden Places and Golden Lies if you like the latter two. Fortunately, except maybe for the self-titled starting album and the live stuff (Live In Montana/No Strings Attached), you really can't go too wrong. Find any one of theirs in a used CD bin somewhere and play it a couple of times through and you'll probably be happy.

Terminally Bored
Oct 31, 2011

Twenty-five dollars and a six pack to my name

quadrophrenic posted:

Alice Donut?

I'm a strong proponent of the theory of "just dive in" to a given discog, but I wanna get this one right for some reason.

Most of people would probably say "Mule" but you should check out "Bucketfulls Of Sickness And Horror In An Otherwise Meaningless Life" first. It's pretty much an amalgam of all the stuff they did and they are triumphant at every point of it. "Egg" may well be the best song they ever did.


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beard trends posted:

Merzbow?

Sun Ra?

For Merzbow try his collaboration with Men of Porn. It's called "And The Devil Makes Three". It's fun in a way that Merzbow adds a thick layer of noise to Porn's stoner metal tracks. Some of the tracks are just destroyed by it, some gain on power.

For Sun Ra, get "Jazz in Silhouette" then "Space is The Place". In the meantime you should check out his collab with Blues Project doing Batman theme songs, just to see how versatile this guy and his orchestra was.
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/02/sun_ra_and_the_.html

Also, props for Nomeansno avatar.

Terminally Bored fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Apr 6, 2012

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

M83?

doug fuckey
Jun 7, 2007

hella greenbacks

regulargonzalez posted:

M83?

Before the Dawn Heals Us or Saturdays = Youth. Dead Cities is kinda less dynamic, it's sort of more long looping dance riffs (as I remember, it's been a while) but you can check that if you like it.

Then if you like those, try their latest after hearing those other two.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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big business sloth posted:

Before the Dawn Heals Us or Saturdays = Youth. Dead Cities is kinda less dynamic, it's sort of more long looping dance riffs (as I remember, it's been a while) but you can check that if you like it.

Then if you like those, try their latest after hearing those other two.

Thanks! I like what I've heard so far. They're coming to Denver in a few weeks -- is their live show worth $60?

global tetrahedron
Jun 24, 2009

regulargonzalez posted:

Thanks! I like what I've heard so far. They're coming to Denver in a few weeks -- is their live show worth $60?

Depending on the venue, it might be worth it. They were phenomenal when I saw them at 1st Ave in MPLS, (about a 2000 capacity venue with a lot of floor space), and they blew the roof off the place, best show of last year imo

Also I had limited familiarity with their music but was still floored. They were channeling some serious MBV vibes, I tell ya.

whooping crane
Feb 12, 2012

beard trends posted:

Sun Ra?

ooh, The Magic City and Atlantis are the place to start. Both are very eerie, paranoid sounding albums that have little resemblance to any other music I've heard. True space music.

Magic City (full) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMEqzosjA-o
Atlantis (partial) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV0WYwTX4DI

Red Ryder
Apr 20, 2006

oh dang
What's a good Spacemen 3 album to start with?

hatelull
Oct 29, 2004

Red Ryder posted:

What's a good Spacemen 3 album to start with?

I think Perfect Prescription is a great place to start, as it's probably their most realized album. If you like that, dive in to the discography at your leisure. They only had four studio albums, and the first one (Sound of Confusion is arguably a glorified EP with only seven songs. However, it's got a great Stooges cover and their take on "Rollercoaster" from the 13th Floor Elevators.

Their live albums are fun if you fancy shoegazey noise, and Dreamweapon is droney as gently caress and a nice pre-cursor to stuff that bands like Stars of the Lid would record. They have a lot of "unofficial" releases, which were mainly comprised of demos I believe. If you want to go that road, Taking Drugs to Make Music to Take Drugs to and For All the hosed Up Children Of the World We Give You Spacemen 3 are probably the most popular.

28 Gun Bad Boy
Nov 5, 2009

Never been to Belgium

Red Ryder posted:

What's a good Spacemen 3 album to start with?

The Perfect Prescription is a good one, but personally I'd start with what I think is their best and arguably the one that put them on the map, Playing With Fire. Their final LP Recurring is also really great, underrated and kinda half-forgotten about album, probably because of the band completely dissolving as it came out. And it's perfect if you're already a Spiritualized fan also most of Pierce's side is pretty much a proto-Lazer Guided Melodies.

On saying all that, the quintessential Spacemen 3 album to me is the album that collects a bunch of their early demos - Taking Drugs To Make Music To Take Drugs To. I just feel it better shows off the whole Spacemen 3 thing far more than what actually became their first two albums. It's not like the recorded tracks are radically different from what ended up on those LPs, but for some reason the whole thing seems better realised to me compared to the final album versions. Plus it's pretty much the worlds most perfect album title.

The Spookmaster
Sep 9, 2002

Not so much a where do I start but can anyone reccomend anyone who sounds like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVdIf8BJME8&context=C4ec6cbbADvjVQa1PpcFNPRUHMCC-UJW6657DwBH9naC-4F22Lf0o= Its from an old twilight zone episode and I absolutly love how haunting soft it is.

me your dad
Jul 25, 2006

Where to start for Nurse With Wound?

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Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005

me your dad posted:

Where to start for Nurse With Wound?

As you probably know, there's a lot of NWW releases and they are very varied in sound, so it kind of depends on what sort of music you are in the mood for.

Homotopy to Marie is the first album Steven Stapleton made by himself so sometimes considered the first "real" NWW album. It is very abstract and kind of bleak sounding. I'd consider Homotopy to Marie to represent kind of a classic NWW sound, and if you like that you'd probably like the material that appears on the Automating compilations.

For ambient NWW, the drone album Soliloquy for Lilith, A Missing Sense (especially the track Swansong), and the very recent release Rupture, a collab with Gavin Bowers are all excellent. Most of the NWW releases over the past decade haven't impressed me that much, but Rupture is probably one of my favorite NWW things.

There's a more tuneful side of NWW on albums like Spiral Insana, and there was a string of releases in the 90s that were very rhythmic and song oriented: Thunder Perfect Mind, Rock n Roll Station, Who Can I Turn to Stereo, Acts of Senseless Beauty, and An Awkward Pause. There's a lot of commonalities and development across these albums and it's probably my favorite period in NWW's discography.

Sorry this is a lot of releases to list, but there isn't really a way to name a best single starting place for NWW, so I can only sort of indicate different sounds that recur and the periods in which you might find them.

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