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Has anyone actually listened to his debates? He posted this a few days ago, but I'll admit I've become lazy with Conservative and when I see two hours on a video I just close it now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0USXvJfo38
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# ? Apr 21, 2012 07:17 |
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ErIog posted:It's pretty clear that Conservative/ShockOfGod has actual diagnosable mental illness. I think of like a conservative fundamentalist version of ulillillillia. That's kind of offensive to ulillillillia. Conservative is probably just as autistic, but he's also pretty stupid too.
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# ? Apr 21, 2012 16:16 |
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I had nothing better to do, so I decided to check in with Conservapedia again. It turns out that Conservative's latest fad is pretending to be mysterious.Main talk page posted:Laika, I/we never said I was an American. Second, I/we don't believe USA exports have increased significantly under the Obama administration. Obama seems focused on wealth distribution, engaging in his wars, promoting homosexuality and playing golf and taking vacations. Obama is LBJ 2.0/Carter 2.0/leftist liberal elitist all rolled into one. Conservative 15:27, 20 April 2012 (EDT) quote:User:Conservative, could you please stop this silly I/we are male/female(s) farce? Reading your comments the only question I have is whether you are twelve years old! AugustO 16:22, 20 April 2012 (EDT) And of course
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# ? Apr 22, 2012 19:54 |
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kissekatt posted:I had nothing better to do, so I decided to check in with Conservapedia again. It turns out that Conservative's latest fad is pretending to be mysterious. Conservative won't last long without the ability to tell everyone how manly he is.
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# ? Apr 23, 2012 00:38 |
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He doesn't need to do that, he just needs to call them girly. fakeedit: also fat.
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# ? Apr 23, 2012 07:46 |
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Holy poo poo, Conservative is literally losing his loving mind. Like, actually descending into psychosis before our very eyes. Wow, how very "mysterious". A noted middle aged WASP from America that posts on a website run by another middle aged WASP from America that arguably promotes ONLY a middle aged WASP from America view point sure is pulling the wool over my eyes with this "we/she/he/us/I/pronoun" bullshit. I guess the best I can do is be glad that Conservative's raging mental illness has manifested itself in a way that doesn't involve people getting murdered or something. C.C.C.P. fucked around with this message at 09:34 on Apr 23, 2012 |
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I like that he's applying Sun Tzu's teachings to his allies. The implication is that he sees the other posters on Conservapedia among the enemies he is fighting against. Because, you know...Conservapedia...a place just lousy with loving liberals getting all up in his loving grill.
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# ? Apr 23, 2012 13:44 |
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So Conservative is either an unmarried 25 to 40 year old white male or a collection of asexual like minded proteins?
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# ? Apr 23, 2012 14:03 |
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I personally like to think that Conservative now views himself as just that: the very concept of being Conservative. He has spent years raging against every fat atheist there is and making every ad Hilterum argument to be made; heck, as his ShockOfGod persona, he has literally proved (Republican-)Christianity to be objectively true. There was nothing left in this world that he could accomplish without ascending to a higher state of being; his mind having grown beyond the limitations foisted upon him by a physical existence. He is no longer a White, Anglo-Saxon Protestant, he is a Worldwide, All-Seeing Presence. Gender? Age? These are but vestiges of his former shell. In his mind, he has ascended this physical plane and merged with the Minds of Reagan and Friedman to form a sort of Conservative Hive-Mind Triumvirate which will, at long last, wipe all traces of liberalism from planet Earth. The sad thing is, this is probably closer to the truth than it has any right to be since he is literally mentally loving ill.
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# ? Apr 23, 2012 15:42 |
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C.C.C.P. posted:I personally like to think that Conservative now views himself as just that: the very concept of being Conservative. He has spent years raging against every fat atheist there is and making every ad Hilterum argument to be made; heck, as his ShockOfGod persona, he has literally proved (Republican-)Christianity to be objectively true. There was nothing left in this world that he could accomplish without ascending to a higher state of being; his mind having grown beyond the limitations foisted upon him by a physical existence. He is no longer a White, Anglo-Saxon Protestant, he is a Worldwide, All-Seeing Presence. Gender? Age? These are but vestiges of his former shell. In his mind, he has ascended this physical plane and merged with the Minds of Reagan and Friedman to form a sort of Conservative Hive-Mind Triumvirate which will, at long last, wipe all traces of liberalism from planet Earth. C'Tiv must evolve. Its knowledge has reached the limits of this universe and it must evolve. What it requires of its god, C.C.C.P., is the answer to its question, "Is there nothing more"?
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# ? Apr 24, 2012 10:25 |
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jojoinnit posted:10. Explain why something as complex as human life could happen by chance, but something as simple as a coin must have a creator. (Show your math solution.) It's hard to see a question like this and not think the whole thing is one massive trolling expedition.
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# ? Apr 24, 2012 19:54 |
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So, I didn't see this talked about in this thread, but it left me mind boggled. At first I though that it was an April Fool's joke, since it was created on April 1st, but the conversation started before that, so I assume that it wasn't meant to be a joke. e: A link would be helpful: Link
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 05:20 |
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I love you Young Earth Creationists always compaire something organic with something inorganic. Of course a pile of junk won't turn itself in a car after a million years because the parts don't interact with each other naturally.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 05:29 |
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Gross Dude posted:So, I didn't see this talked about in this thread, but it left me mind boggled. At first I though that it was an April Fool's joke, since it was created on April 1st, but the conversation started before that, so I assume that it wasn't meant to be a joke. That's isn't just failing at physics, it's falling at math too. It's E=mc^2, not m=Ec^2. Apparently Schafly can't do algebra correctly either.
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Gross Dude posted:So, I didn't see this talked about in this thread, but it left me mind boggled. At first I though that it was an April Fool's joke, since it was created on April 1st, but the conversation started before that, so I assume that it wasn't meant to be a joke. quote:Aschlafly, two protons (1.0073amu) and two neutrons (1.0087amu) have a combined mass of 4.0320 amu. An alpha-particle - existing from two protons and two neutrons - has a mass of 4.0015 amu. How do you explain this diminution of mass?
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 05:31 |
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Gross Dude posted:So, I didn't see this talked about in this thread, but it left me mind boggled. At first I though that it was an April Fool's joke, since it was created on April 1st, but the conversation started before that, so I assume that it wasn't meant to be a joke. I think he's reasoning along these lines: Eating food gives you energy. And since this formula says what energy equals, you can figure out how much energy you've eaten by using this formula. When m = 1 lb. of cake, the energy in that cake is 1*c2, hence the comment that eating a pound of cake increases your energy by the speed of light squared.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 05:41 |
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I don't believe in maths anyway. All the numbers we need are in the Bible and there's no equations in my copy.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 05:42 |
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Fried Chicken posted:about mass-energy equivalence. If anyone's wondering, it's all in the energy used by the weak nuclear force to bind the nucleons together.
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jojoinnit posted:I don't believe in maths anyway. All the numbers we need are in the Bible and there's no equations in my copy. quote:Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge predicts that a unified theory of all the laws of physics is impossible, because light and matter were created at different times, in different ways, as described in the Book of Genesis.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 05:45 |
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TinTower posted:If anyone's wondering, it's all in the energy used by the weak nuclear force to bind the nucleons together. And we're supposed to just trust the scientists that these so-called nucleons even exist? I have it on higher authority that matter is really made up of fire, wind, earth and water. Do you want me to believe some scientists over Aristotle? E: oh, and stars are made of Aether. So is the moon.
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colonelslime posted:And we're supposed to just trust the scientists that these so-called nucleons even exist? I have it on higher authority that matter is really made up of fire, wind, earth and water. Do you want me to believe some scientists over Aristotle? They probably call them nuke-u-lee-ons anyway. Misunderestimating the whole thing...
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 05:54 |
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Ah ha ha ha wait that guy is arguing against the existence of things like alpha particles and Helium? I mean he's definitely arguing that neutrons and protons don't exist because I guess matter is against God but given that he refers to alpha particles and the guy specifically asks how he knows those 'particles' exist I'm kind of thinking he doesn't believe in them too. My main suggestion in that case is that he goes and finds himself a nice basement with some Radon gas to chill in for a while. EDIT: Ha ha gold! http://www.conservapedia.com/Radon Conservapedia on Radon posted:The EPA claims that it is a health hazard and causes cancer in people and animals exposed to it, though many conservative commentators and some industrial hygienists[1] state that the dangers are significantly exaggerated. Their 'industrial hygienist' source is hilarious and while I have no intention of reading through that drivel flip through if you want to see someone claim ionizing radiation is A-OK number one for your health and will prevent lung cancer. Feinne fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Apr 25, 2012 |
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E: never mind the awful app is awful.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 06:06 |
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Gross Dude posted:So, I didn't see this talked about in this thread, but it left me mind boggled. At first I though that it was an April Fool's joke, since it was created on April 1st, but the conversation started before that, so I assume that it wasn't meant to be a joke. These guys are great. They're projecting every insecurity about their own religious views onto the guys trying to defend basic physics. "Have you ever seen an electron? Ever held it in your hand? Sounds like you're putting blind faith in that physicist's words. " "Your scientific arguments are just another form of religion. Feel free to believe that mumbo jumbo, but don't you dare push your views onto me. "
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Fried Chicken posted:
You have to be loving kidding me. Is that a troll or does this "DavidEdwards" literally believe that as true? Why is it that religious people constantly ascribe faith to the acceptance of science? Is it just so that they, in their denial and disbelief of science and anything else that doesn't jive with their religious beliefs, don't have to deal with cognitive dissonance or do they seriously not understand how science works?
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 06:15 |
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Bruce Leroy posted:Why is it that religious people constantly ascribe faith to the acceptance of science? Is it just so that they, in their denial and disbelief of science and anything else that doesn't jive with their religious beliefs, don't have to deal with cognitive dissonance or do they seriously not understand how science works? I wouldn't paint every religious person with the same brush, but this is how I see it for the target Conservapedia audience: they're convinced they already have The Truth, so the notion of being open to newer, better interpretations of the world rubs them the wrong way. The scientific process operates in a completely different way than they're used to- it's much easier for them to label science as they would any other heretical belief system and dismiss it.
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That sound you all just heard was me putting my fist through my monitor over that DavidEdwards quote.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 07:26 |
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Bruce Leroy posted:You have to be loving kidding me. Is that a troll or does this "DavidEdwards" literally believe that as true? Why is it that religious people constantly ascribe faith to the acceptance of science? Is it just so that they, in their denial and disbelief of science and anything else that doesn't jive with their religious beliefs, don't have to deal with cognitive dissonance or do they seriously not understand how science works? [/quote] When the guy didn't respond to that quote:I find Mr O's position to be rather odd. He insists that Mr Schlafly - and only Mr Schlafly answers his questions. Yet at the same time Mr O steadfastly ignores comments specifically directed at him.--DavidEdwards 16:11, 28 March 2012 (EDT)
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The Dark One posted:I wouldn't paint every religious person with the same brush, but this is how I see it for the target Conservapedia audience: they're convinced they already have The Truth, so the notion of being open to newer, better interpretations of the world rubs them the wrong way. The scientific process operates in a completely different way than they're used to- it's much easier for them to label science as they would any other heretical belief system and dismiss it. I wasn't really referring to every religious person, as I'm aware that there are plenty of religious scientists who compartmentalize well enough, but these retards at Conservapedia are just insane. It kind of reminds me of reading PZ Myers' Pharyngula blog. Occasionally, Eric Hovind and his group of religious clods invade the comments section on entries about religion or creationism and it's some pretty amazing idiocy like Conservapedia. They start in with all the presupposition bullshit that reads like Buddhist koans and my eyes roll so far and so quickly that my retinas almost detach.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 10:14 |
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jojoinnit posted:All the numbers we need are in the Bible and there's no equations in my copy. There is one equation that all maths should be based on as it is God's word. And that is 5 + 2 = 5000 5 units of bread + 2 units of fish = 5000 units of food. Hence all math that does not conform to this is the the devil.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 14:06 |
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I don't mean to this but is Conservapedia really trying to distinguish "conservative science" as a thing separate from and better than "mainstream" science, like the Deutsche Physik movement in the 30s?
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happyhippy posted:There is one equation that all maths should be based on as it is God's word. There's a great Patton Oswalt bit about how Jesus' miracle powers seem so weird taken together, especially in context of him being like a comic superhero. Like, healing hands and resurrection are awesome necromancer style powers but this whole fish and bread thing seems kind of like Jesus once had a sidekick with those powers and the comic writers just wrote out the sidekick and gave Jesus those lovely extra powers.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 14:37 |
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Recall that according to the bible, the value of pi is exactly 3... we don't need none of them satanic,
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Reminder that Andy graduated cum laude from Princeton University with a degree in electrical engineering and then went to Harvard and graduated magna cum laude, worked as a device physicist for Intel and as an engineer at the applied physics lab of John Hopkins University and Bell Labs yet is somehow stupid enough to think that something as non-controversial (and relevant to his career as a PERSON WHO WORKED IN loving PHYSICS) as "E=MC2" is fake, liberal bias.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 14:40 |
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Well guys, I made it. 110 pages. Countless laughs and horrified gasps. To celebrate I made an account a few weeks ago that is doing pretty well, I'm looking forward to writing some stormers like best conservative dance moves and homosexuality and agriculture.
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colonelslime posted:That's isn't just failing at physics, it's falling at math too. It's E=mc^2, not m=Ec^2. Apparently Schafly can't do algebra correctly either. I think that means that he really would be increasing his energy by that much if he ate a pound of cake, but USING that energy would require annihilating it with antimatter or something to get 100% of its energy. Instead, his body would be using chemical energy (the energy stored in the inter-atomic chemical bonds), which is there is MUCH less of. Oh, derp. vvvv OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Apr 25, 2012 |
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OneEightHundred posted:I'm probably mistaken on part of this, but I think that's actually the point of it. Nuclear fission and fusion outputs have less mass than the inputs, the energy produced IS the lost mass.
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Stoat posted:Well guys, I made it. 110 pages. Countless laughs and horrified gasps. To celebrate I made an account a few weeks ago that is doing pretty well, I'm looking forward to writing some stormers like best conservative dance moves and homosexuality and agriculture. Although you'd better not use those specific examples, of course. Try finding a really obscure liberal author and describing them as conservative (or vice-versa!)
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Augster posted:I don't mean to this but is Conservapedia really trying to distinguish "conservative science" as a thing separate from and better than "mainstream" science, like the Deutsche Physik movement in the 30s? Not overtly, but yes. Anything that doesn't jive with Andy's preconceived notion of objective truth is labeled as heretical "liberal science". See: Global warming, Evolution, Relativity
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I think a good troll, if you have some microbiology background, would be to argue against the distinction between archaea and bacteria. That would totally jive with their worldview.
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