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Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

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Vertigo posted:

That bottle shop got Red Poppy in. $25 per. I don't even care if that's gouging. I'm getting 2 tomorrow.

mmm, got it for 16 at a whole foods in Laguna beach. Is it really that good? Should I sit on it?


Also, CBS was really drat good. Much more deserving of the hype than most hyped beers (looking at you Hopslam).

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FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Just got back from a regional sales meeting. At dinner, I symbolically poured part of a Redhook ESB into the trash and had a moment of silence before eating, as did the two beer peons sitting with me. None of the managers knew what I was talking about when I told them about the accident.

Goddammit, managers. We sell beer. How can you not follow any beer news?

On a lighter note, I brought home a Brainless on Cherries, another Terrapin 10th, an 8 Wired Big Smoke, ST Jahva, a New Belgium LOF Sour Brown and a Cocoa Mole. Really excited about the Smoke and the Mole.

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Apr 26, 2012

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW

mysterious frankie posted:

Not even Gumballhead?

I guess I can see where preferences come from. American wheats always seem a little thinner and more astringent than their European counterparts I guess? Is that where the dislike comes from or am I way off?

Never had a single 3F.

I think you're on to something, definitely thinner. I never thought of more astringent, but it makes sense once you say it.

And for the record I didn't mean so much wheat beers made in America as the style "American wheat." Like the now discontinued Sierra Nevada Wheat, those kinds of beers.

Alagash White is pretty great.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Arnold of Soissons posted:

Never had a single 3F.

I think you're on to something, definitely thinner. I never thought of more astringent, but it makes sense once you say it.

And for the record I didn't mean so much wheat beers made in America as the style "American wheat." Like the now discontinued Sierra Nevada Wheat, those kinds of beers.

Alagash White is pretty great.

I dunno if Gumballhead would start your love affair with American wheats then... it's great, but revels in everything you don't like about the style. I'd say try it if someone offers one, just to see if I'm wrong, but don't go on any epic journeys to seek it out.

EDIT: Also, Allagash can almost do no wrong.

Darth Goku Jr
Oct 19, 2004

yes yes i see, i understand
:wal::respek::stat:

Kudosx posted:

The only place I know to get any Bernardus around me only carries Abt 12. If any OH goons have any suggestions as to where I might be able to find St. B's Tripel, and Witbier... I would really love to know, and would greatly appreciate it!

It's been too long since I've been there, but I really thought the bar La Cav du Vin carried all of Bernardus main stuff (and you can get it to-go at state min. prices)

Which by the way, if someone ever gets poo poo on you and their form of blackmail is forcing you into going on a vacation to Cleveland, go to La Cav du Vin. And Bier Market (and stop by GLBC while your there). And The Beer Engine.

Darth Goku Jr fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Apr 26, 2012

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW

mysterious frankie posted:

I dunno if Gumballhead would start your love affair with American wheats then... it's great, but revels in everything you don't like about the style. I'd say try it if someone offers one, just to see if I'm wrong, but don't go on any epic journeys to seek it out.

EDIT: Also, Allagash can almost do no wrong.

My parents live in northern Indiana, so I'm hoping I'll get to try a bunch of 3F when I go visit them without any particularly painful stakes if I don't like something.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
Goose Island sent some Sofie to New Jersey, I'm pretty excited to try it and age the other 4, one for each year. Hopefully this means more to come.

Edit: I don't know why, but I'm wasting time arguing with someone about the merits of Unearthly. I firmly believe it's only high rated due to most newcomers being blown away by a high ABV "expensive" beer and giving it high ratings.

Midorka fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Apr 26, 2012

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006

Munkaboo posted:

mmm, got it for 16 at a whole foods in Laguna beach. Is it really that good? Should I sit on it?


Also, CBS was really drat good. Much more deserving of the hype than most hyped beers (looking at you Hopslam).

To be honest, if you sit on it, it gets a lot better.



I scored at a Whole Foods today across from The Grove in Hollywood. I asked the worker if they had Firestone Walker Parabola - cause I figured with it being released at the brewery this weekend it couldn't hurt. They go in the back and come out with 2011's Parabola.

$16 bucks later and I'm happy as gently caress. I love Parabola. Thinking of making the drive up to Paso Robles this weekend to pick up some bottles from the source.

air-
Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Munkaboo posted:

Also, CBS was really drat good. Much more deserving of the hype than most hyped beers (looking at you Hopslam).

Indeed CBS was really drat good. My only complaint was how the bar would only do a 10 oz pour and really would have preferred to drink much less of it, that way I wouldn't have to spend over half an hour on a slow sipper and I could sample a lot more of the lineup. Bier Baron is a pretty cool spot and I'm glad it wasn't a clusterfuck like a Churchkey event would be. Was nice meeting y'all last night!

CalvinDooglas
Dec 5, 2002

Watch For Fleeing Immigrants

Jack Skeleton posted:



$16 bucks later and I'm happy as gently caress. I love Parabola. Thinking of making the drive up to Paso Robles this weekend to pick up some bottles from the source.

I know this is the beer thread and all, but if you're going out to Paso Robles make time for the wine. It's seriously a poor man's Sonoma Valley out there: free tasting, unpretentious wineries, cheap bottles, no appointments, no expectation of purchase.

I went several years ago and had a blast, but that was before I knew about Firestone Walker.

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


I had a Squatters Crest Trail Small Batch (brewpub-only release, but my local bar did some trading or something to get a few) last night. It's a really nice APA, clean with great hop/malt balance. I've never been a tremendous IPA fan (though I can appreciate a well-crafted hop bomb once in a while), but American pales are starting to impress me a lot lately.

Squatters also impressed me with Fifth Element. It's a farmhouse ale with significant bretty funk, and it's really well balanced and enjoyable. Actually I had a bit of Outer Darkness last night as well, and it seemed a lot better than I remembered - more chocolatey, a bit richer. Maybe it's aged well or maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance the first time.

Other noteworthy stuff from last night:
- Dark Lord 2011 is drat tasty. It's sweet but not cloying, with tons of complex cola, root beer, chocolate, and grassy flavors. It is in no way worth waiting in line for hours and possibly facing a riot when some people don't get any, but it IS a very tasty beer.
- New Glarus Raspberry Tart. Holy poo poo this beer. I've had a lot of fruit beers, and they've ranged from cloyingly sweet to lambic acid bombs to impressively not-fruity. This one is is a class of its own. According to the guy who brought it for tasting, New Glarus uses a pound of raspberries per bottle, and it shows. It smells exactly like freshly-picked raspberries. It smells more like raspberries than any raspberry jam I've ever had. I had some serious flashbacks of grandma's garden, picking raspberries from the vine and eating them. Flavor backs that up - it's not cloying but not really sour either, just deliciously raspberry. One of my friends commented it was a savory raspberry beer, and that's not a bad description. The sweetness and acidity are so nicely balanced that the primary experience of the beer is raspberries, with some toasty/yeasty flavors in the background for interest. I want more of this.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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bartolimu posted:

- Dark Lord 2011 is drat tasty. It's sweet but not cloying, with tons of complex cola, root beer, chocolate, and grassy flavors. It is in no way worth waiting in line for hours and possibly facing a riot when some people don't get any, but it IS a very tasty beer.

That's my current default opinion about most of what FFF does, honestly. They're a great brewer, but not the second coming, and I think the cult that sprung up around them wouldn't be there if so much of their stuff wasn't so hard to find. I'm already less jazzed about them, now that they're flooding the Chicago market and I've had a few weeks to become inured, and if their brewpub here is as busy as I've heard the Indiana one is, it's gonna be a one trip & done kind of a deal.

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

I'll take New Glarus's fruit beers over DL every time.

There, I said it!

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

bartolimu posted:

- Dark Lord 2011 is drat tasty. It's sweet but not cloying, with tons of complex cola, root beer, chocolate, and grassy flavors. It is in no way worth waiting in line for hours and possibly facing a riot when some people don't get any, but it IS a very tasty beer.

Has this even ever happened? They guarantee bottles of Dark Lord for anybody who has a ticket.

Corb3t fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Apr 26, 2012

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


No idea. I know Dark Lord Day is frequently a bit of a poodle screw, but I've never felt the need to go for it. Most super-hyped beers are in the same category as DL, very good but not worth the drama to actually procure it on a regular basis.

SUPER HASSLER posted:

I'll take New Glarus's fruit beers over DL every time.

There, I said it!
I had a little bit of Raspberry Tart left and my friend had a trickle of Dark Lord, so we mixed them together (probably 3:1 raspberry:DL). It was like a raspberry truffle. Beer mixing has serious potential, and I enjoy doing it with impossible-to-find stuff that might make spergy beer nerds shriek in horror.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Munkaboo posted:

mmm, got it for 16 at a whole foods in Laguna beach. Is it really that good? Should I sit on it?



It's good, but 20+ dollars for a small bottle good? No, no way. I can get a 750ml of Rodenbach Grand Cru for considerably less than a bottle of Red Poppy, and Cuvee des Jacobins is on tap for $6 or $7. Red Poppy's nowhere near sufficiently better than either of those to justify the additional cost.

I know it's a boutique beer and costs a lot to produce, and I know that a lot of the price it goes for in PA is taxes, but no way am I buying it again.

mysterious frankie posted:

Would it be worth taking a three (six round) hour trip to Madison to score some?

I've never been, but yeah, I'd do that. Their apple beer tastes more like apples than almost any cider I've ever had, their fruit beers are ridiculously good.

Phanatic fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Apr 26, 2012

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

SUPER HASSLER posted:

I'll take New Glarus's fruit beers over DL every time.

There, I said it!

Jealous of anyone who has ready access to New Glarus. Would it be worth taking a three (six round) hour trip to Madison to score some?

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

mysterious frankie posted:

Jealous of anyone who has ready access to New Glarus. Would it be worth taking a three (six round) hour trip to Madison to score some?

Frankie, where are you? I figured you were in Chicago, and if that's the case, you can get to the Woodman's in Kenosha in an hour from downtown.

The raspberry tart and the wisconsin belgian red (cherry) are unbelievably good for fruit beers. Split a bottle of the latter with my GF last night and it is always, always delicious.

As for their other offerings... I think the hype of their WI exclusivity overpowers their actual quality. I like Road Slush (their winter stout) but nothing is exceptional in my opinion.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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danbanana posted:

Frankie, where are you? I figured you were in Chicago, and if that's the case, you can get to the Woodman's in Kenosha in an hour from downtown.

The raspberry tart and the wisconsin belgian red (cherry) are unbelievably good for fruit beers. Split a bottle of the latter with my GF last night and it is always, always delicious.

As for their other offerings... I think the hype of their WI exclusivity overpowers their actual quality. I like Road Slush (their winter stout) but nothing is exceptional in my opinion.

Which probably puts it about 40 minutes out from the Northside... don't have a car though and no Amtrak stops at Kenosha. Blah.

EDIT: what's everyone's opinion of Dogfish Head's Midas Touch? I saw they have it at Andersonville Wine and Spirits now and I'm tempted. I thiiiiink I liked what I tried of it at Kegs For Kids, but honestly, by hour four I would have liked a plastic cup of warm Old Style that people were putting their butts in all night.

mysterious frankie fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Apr 26, 2012

Manky
Mar 20, 2007


Fun Shoe

mysterious frankie posted:

EDIT: what's everyone's opinion of Dogfish Head's Midas Touch? I saw they have it at Andersonville Wine and Spirits now and I'm tempted. I thiiiiink I liked what I tried of it at Kegs For Kids, but honestly, by hour four I would have liked a plastic cup of warm Old Style that people were putting their butts in all night.

I'm a big fan of Midas Touch, it's really the only DFH I buy with any regularity. (If Chateau Jiahu weren't harder to find and wasn't only sold in bombers, that would change, but in the meantime...) It's just a nice refreshing beer, sweet and dry like a nice white wine, but because of the hint of grape it's really reminiscent of a good mead.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

mysterious frankie posted:

Which probably puts it about 40 minutes out from the Northside... don't have a car though and no Amtrak stops at Kenosha. Blah.

EDIT: what's everyone's opinion of Dogfish Head's Midas Touch? I saw they have it at Andersonville Wine and Spirits now and I'm tempted. I thiiiiink I liked what I tried of it at Kegs For Kids, but honestly, by hour four I would have liked a plastic cup of warm Old Style that people were putting their butts in all night.

I haven't had Midas Touch in a year or so, but it was my go-to for a while. I really enjoyed it and should re-visit it.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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Phanatic posted:

I've never been, but yeah, I'd do that. Their apple beer tastes more like apples than almost any cider I've ever had, their fruit beers are ridiculously good.

I don't have a lot of experience with fruity beers, outside of lambics and things that could maybe generously be called a fruit beer by virtue of an orange peel being introduced at some point in the brewing process. I've had Samuel Smith's Strawberry Fruit Beer, which I like in the same way I like tamales that come in a can. New Glarus fruits sound really tempting, because of that.

Think I might grab some Midas Touch tonight.

SketchyNick
Oct 15, 2005

SnowDog posted:

Thanks, Bartolimu and Munkaboo. I will look into Cigar City and Funky Buddha in a few weeks and post my results :).

Tonight, perhaps a Harpoon Rye IPA.

Look out for Saint Somewhere also. A sour only brewery based out of New Port Richey, FL. They used to supply yeast for Cigar City's Guava Grove but now they use something else. I love everything they make and it's always super unique.

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

I have a hankering to get a bottle of Stone IRS. I hope it's hit CT. Anyone know?

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


Is there a more accurate beer distribution comparison tool than SeekABrew? They're at least six months behind on what's distributed in Nevada and I have to assume they're equally off in other places.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

mysterious frankie posted:

Which probably puts it about 40 minutes out from the Northside... don't have a car though and no Amtrak stops at Kenosha. Blah.

There's a metra line that ends in kenosha, for what it's worth...

But I find myself in WI at least a handful of times per year, and inevitably that means me bringing back WI-available brews. Next time I run up, I'll drop you a line (no messaging?) and ask if there's anything in particular you're looking for.

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

bartolimu posted:

Is there a more accurate beer distribution comparison tool than SeekABrew? They're at least six months behind on what's distributed in Nevada and I have to assume they're equally off in other places.

drat I didn't even know that website was a thing. That's awesome.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
The only way I could imagine seekabrew getting better is to e-mail them updated data.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Midorka posted:

The only way I could imagine seekabrew getting better is to e-mail them updated data.

Which is essentially how beermenus works: crowd-sourced info.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





Has this been mentioned yet? There's a company in Connecticut making beer beer ice cream apparently. Looks like they're only selling it in a few locations now with the option to ship it anywhere in the states. Guess they're using Guiness, Sam Adams (Boston Lager, I think), and tiny, Connecticut-based microbrewer Olde Burnside's Ten Penny Ale. Looks like there are also plans to make ice cream out of the Munson's Chocolates/Thomas Hooker Brewery Chocolate Truffle Stout collaboration, which seems weird given that you're geting a dessert item made with a beer made with a dessert item. :psyduck:

I'm kind of a nut for Ten Penny Ale and I'd love to get my hands on some of this.

Edit: \/\/\/

Wamsutta posted:

That Thomas Hooker/Munson's beer is already a thing which exists and I had a bottle of it and its' really, really good.

Yeah, I bought a single to try a little while ago and have yet to crack it open. I just thought it was kind of funny. :cheers:

Quiet Feet fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Apr 26, 2012

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

That Thomas Hooker/Munson's beer is already a thing which exists and I had a bottle of it and its' really, really good.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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danbanana posted:

There's a metra line that ends in kenosha, for what it's worth...

But I find myself in WI at least a handful of times per year, and inevitably that means me bringing back WI-available brews. Next time I run up, I'll drop you a line (no messaging?) and ask if there's anything in particular you're looking for.

niiiiiice. Might try taking the metra up sometime.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

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He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!

Quiet Feet posted:

Has this been mentioned yet? There's a company in Connecticut making beer beer ice cream

Edit: \/\/\/


Victory in PA makes their own beer ice cream too, never had it though.

CalvinDooglas
Dec 5, 2002

Watch For Fleeing Immigrants
Is it alcoholic?

I like beer and ice cream separately, but I just can't get into the idea of consuming a bunch of fresh dairy with my alcohol. It seems like a puke waiting to happen.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

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He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!

CalvinDooglas posted:

Is it alcoholic?

I like beer and ice cream separately, but I just can't get into the idea of consuming a bunch of fresh dairy with my alcohol. It seems like a puke waiting to happen.

Nope http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/07/05/victory-brewing-company-serving-beer-ice-cream/

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

Quiet Feet posted:

Has this been mentioned yet? There's a company in Connecticut making beer beer ice cream apparently. Looks like they're only selling it in a few locations now with the option to ship it anywhere in the states. Guess they're using Guiness, Sam Adams (Boston Lager, I think), and tiny, Connecticut-based microbrewer Olde Burnside's Ten Penny Ale. Looks like there are also plans to make ice cream out of the Munson's Chocolates/Thomas Hooker Brewery Chocolate Truffle Stout collaboration, which seems weird given that you're geting a dessert item made with a beer made with a dessert item. :psyduck:

I'm kind of a nut for Ten Penny Ale and I'd love to get my hands on some of this.

Edit: \/\/\/


Yeah, I bought a single to try a little while ago and have yet to crack it open. I just thought it was kind of funny. :cheers:

Jeni's in Columbus does a Cherry Lambic Sorbet. It's amazing.

toenut
Apr 11, 2003

fourth and nine

crazyfish posted:

Apparently Three Floyds is planning on opening a Chicago brewpub? http://www.chicagotribune.com/featu...0,7354010.story

I don't understand where he's coming from here

quote:

Floyd loves traveling because it is stimulating and challenging, which he explained by slightly denigrating what's being poured these days in craft beer's early mecca, Portland, Ore.

"If you're not traveling and learning new stuff, you're sort of stuck," he said. "Look at Portland. It's still based on Willamette and Cluster (hops). It's the same (bleeping) beer you were drinking 30 years ago!"

"Portland was great in the 80s and 90s when there was nothing like it," he continued. "It used to be inspirational. It still is. But the more you travel and learn, the better."

Really, beer in Portland hasn't changed since the 80s or 90s? Everything based on Willamette and Cluster? I can't even think about what beers he might be talking about.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

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toenut posted:

I don't understand where he's coming from here


Really, beer in Portland hasn't changed since the 80s or 90s? Everything based on Willamette and Cluster? I can't even think about what beers he might be talking about.

Yeah, I got a really clear mental image of a giant :smug: floating weightless in the cold depths of space, obscuring the sun, tangible waves of pure egotistic energy oozing off of it in thick, gauzy blankets when I read the Floyd quotes in that article. I don't know anything about the beer scene in Portland, but I really doubt it's been in stasis since the Superbowl Shuffle made its debut.

EDIT: Does he maybe mean that Portland isn't doing so much gimmicky stuff? Seems like crazy gimmicks are lauded by a lot of enthusiasts. If so, Portland, I have a really great idea for an stout named Tom Thumb that will actually taste like thumbs and marmite. Give me a call @ ...

mysterious frankie fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Apr 26, 2012

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

mysterious frankie posted:

niiiiiice. Might try taking the metra up sometime.

I have NO idea where you end up, but I figure you probably wouldn't be too far from a liquor store. And if there's one certainty about New Glarus, it's that you can find their stuff at every liquor store, gas station, and bar in that state. I've certainly never experienced the kind of state-wide pride in one brewery that they have in NG.

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mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

danbanana posted:

I have NO idea where you end up, but I figure you probably wouldn't be too far from a liquor store. And if there's one certainty about New Glarus, it's that you can find their stuff at every liquor store, gas station, and bar in that state. I've certainly never experienced the kind of state-wide pride in one brewery that they have in NG.

Is there anything else up thataway? Might as well make a day of it if I'm taking the train.

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