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Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


Ronald Raiden posted:

postmodern warfare

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NOTinuyasha
Oct 17, 2006

 
The Great Twist
Gaymer
Main article: Gaymer

Gaymer, or Gay Gamer, is a term used to refer to the group of people who identify themselves as gay, bisexual, lesbian, or transgendered and have an active interest in the video game community (gamers).[22]

This demographic has been the subject of two large surveys: by Jason Rockwood in 2006,[23] who noted the level of prejudice that gaymers endure,[24] and by Paul Nowak in 2009, focusing in what contents gaymers expect in videogames.[25][26]

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH



:staredog:

theclaw posted:

Lock the thread. We're done here.

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

Ronald Raiden posted:

postmodern warfare

my_humanities_courses.txt

git apologist
Jun 4, 2003

theflyingexecutive posted:

cool, outstandingly sexist and homophobic

git apologist
Jun 4, 2003

NOTinuyasha posted:

this is it.

git apologist
Jun 4, 2003

lmao

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


cidrick... to the goldmine please

git apologist
Jun 4, 2003

That section about girl gamers is probably the worst thing I have ever read

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_video_games

look at all those words

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

target market for tv screens in refrigerator doors, so Sally can whip up some eggs while she's whipping your rear end at the same time

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

also are there girl gaymers that get offended when left out of discussions?

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


Gentle Autist posted:

That section about girl gamers is probably the worst thing I have ever read

same now that I have you on ignore :twisted:

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH


quote:

The games are a form of socializing. They're just replacing time these women would've spent watching TV or some other media

or maybe women just don't build their entire identity around video games because people who do that are literal children

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH


Nevergirls posted:

cidrick... to the goldmine please

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...

Ruby got Railed posted:

also are there girl gaymers that get offended when left out of discussions?

most of the time u want an invisibility perk

Pain Wizard
Mar 26, 2010

Nevergirls posted:

cidrick... to the goldmine please

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

NOTinuyasha posted:

this is it.

Fanged Lawn Wormy
Jan 4, 2008

SQUEAK! SQUEAK! SQUEAK!

haveblue posted:

close this thread, we found the most worthless thing you can find on wikipedia

got dat wmd
Apr 28, 2009
DO NOT HIRE GIRL GAMERS IN YOUR CLAN. Because of mensturation they require time off where they won't be able to game during the month and possibly pregnancy leave prohibiting them long periods without gaming. Your cred will decrease dramatically.

Lamont Cranston
Sep 1, 2006

how do i shot foam

quote:

One of the earliest attempts to broaden the market to include females could be seen in Sega's[12] use of the increased number of female protagonists in fighting games

yep the realistic depiction of women in fighting games is surely a selling point in the female market

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

samus IS A GIRL??? (with a bikini cheat code)
chun li just KICKED RYU'S rear end? (and ripped her blouse in celebration)

holy crap somebody alert gloria steinem

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

got dat wmd posted:

str8 acting gaymer for nsa j/o power bottom/leveling

no gay stuff

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This thread brought to you by a tremendous dickhead!

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

May I remind you that the requirements for displaying that star are 200,000 edits and 20 years' service. While it seems that you have made a total of 1,218 edits during your time here at Wikipedia. I would ask that you replace the Vanguard Editor star with the one that you are entitled to display: The Apprentice Editor. — Fly by Night (talk) 23:47, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Soldier of Fortran
May 2, 2009

Luigi Thirty posted:

May I remind you that the requirements for displaying that star are 200,000 edits and 20 years' service. While it seems that you have made a total of 1,218 edits during your time here at Wikipedia. I would ask that you replace the Vanguard Editor star with the one that you are entitled to display: The Apprentice Editor. — Fly by Night (talk) 23:47, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
wikipedia was a humbler place back in '92

Guido van Possum
Apr 7, 2012

by T. Finninho
That quotation at the beginning of your post simply establishes that there is a difference between "sex" and "gender", which no one is disputing. It doesn't give any support to your definition of gender, which appears to be way more limited than is used by professional academic researchers. It would, for example, exclude gender identity, which is a pretty big area to miss out, and which is highly relevant here. One problem is that you continually write about society or use "societal" as if society is something with agency and separate from people. Society is the aggregate of people. How people view and talk about themselves and others as male and female in anything other than a physiological context is gender. "Girl gamer" is not a technical term for a gamer with a vagina. It is a particular kind of female gamer, with a particular identity, both taken on by the gamers themselves and as perceived by other gamers. There may possibly be people who identify as "girl gamers" who are biologically male. That's what makes this a gender, not a sex issue.
Of course, when talking about gender we also need to talk about biological sex, as unsurprisingly there's something of a high correlation between the two, and biological differences impact on gender differences (and vice versa). To be honest, much of the tone of what you write gives the impression that you've only just found out the difference between gender and sex and that like someone born again, you excitedly presume that (a) you've understood it perfectly and (b) no one else does. One reason I say this because you don't seem particularly au fait with how widely the term "gender" is actually used in the sociological literature. Of the ten in the list of articles citing the one about "sex differences", six either use gender in the title, or the abstract, or as a key indexing term. As far as I can see, none use sex as a lead term. You might argue they're wrong to do this, but they're the ones with articles published in peer review journals and you're an anonymous keyboard hitter on Wikipedia. Finding articles here and there in google that use "sex" more broadly and gender less broadly is just data fishing. You need to look at the general usage in high quality sources.
A better source (because it addresses the issue head on) for the role of qualitative research in demography would be this article from the Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research. It details the struggles and mistakes of demographers - formally trained in quantitative methods - when trying to incorporate qualitative methods into research projects when there isn't a sociologist or anthropologist working on their team. Formally qualitative methods are used where quantitative survey instruments are not feasible, primarily with clandestine or illegal activities. As you will see if you read the article, it's still done to create a picture of a population rather than analyse individual experiences in any depth (and you'll also read about the elementary difficulties many demographers have in using qualitative techniques). Demographers have always had to rely on the results of qualitative research to inform their interpretations of statistics. That doesn't take away from the fact that the bread and butter of demography is the measurement of population-level phenomena and the statistical relationships that can be found between them. It's a highly complicated subject; one shouldn't be surprised at the degree of specialism.
A demographer working on her or his own turf might look at how many "game girls" there are (if the concept can be properly operationalised to be countable), where they live, what games they play. This article presumably wants to cover more than that, such as "what is a game girl" and related issues of perception and identity in video gaming. Otherwise we can just stick the numbers we have in to Video game#Demographics and delete this page.
Having a title that includes "gender" would broaden the topic, but it would make for a more stable, NPOV, high quality RS-based article than using "females".VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 05:18, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

got dat wmd posted:

DO NOT HIRE GIRL GAMERS IN YOUR CLAN. Because of mensturation they require time off where they won't be able to game during the month and possibly pregnancy leave prohibiting them long periods without gaming. Your cred will decrease dramatically.

28 DAYS LATER, THE GUILD VAULT'S EMPTY AGAIN



gently caress




I TOLD YOU GUYS

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

I found the best spoken article on wikipedia

white people reading articles

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

RZApublican posted:

I found the best spoken article on wikipedia

white people reading articles

lol, loving hell.

break-up breakdown
Mar 6, 2010

RZApublican posted:

I found the best spoken article on wikipedia

white people reading articles

this is incredible

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

sick trigger posted:

this is incredible

seriously

ChiralCondensate
Nov 13, 2007

what is that man doing to his colour palette?
Grimey Drawer
it's not really incredible -- you really can't imagine whites being so out of touch to the point where they think it's OK to narrate an article titled "nigga"?

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Trig Discipline posted:

seriously

Trig, you need to put this to a beat and turn into one of your sound art things.

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

holy poo poo

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


Trig Discipline posted:

seriously

needs mashup with your barack obama thing

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe

ChiralCondensate posted:

it's not really incredible -- you really can't imagine whites being so out of touch to the point where they think it's OK to narrate an article titled "nigga"?

is it not ok for a white person to do that?

the guy speaking the article is certainly off-puttingly enthusiastic about it, i'll say that. i only listened to it for about 30 seconds before i got tired of him.

.lnk to the past
May 3, 2005

psoting while drunk

Hammerite posted:

i only listened to it for about 30 seconds before i got tired of him.

nigga please

x!te bike
May 2, 2008

how do you know it's not real hood nigga with a cold

x!te bike
May 2, 2008

.lnk to the past posted:

nigga please

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got dat wmd
Apr 28, 2009
Somewhere in Section 2 of the soundbite is discussed the use of "nigga" in pop culture. The reader/speaker notes Tupac's "post-humorous" album.... I believe this should be "posthumous," as the album in question came out after Tupac's death, and not after Tupac ceased being funny. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.179.166 (talk) 04:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

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