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TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

wacky cycling inflatable
tube man
I have to stuff my bottles in three different cabinets/closets at this point, so you've still got a ways to go. :p

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SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
Edit: wrong thread

SpiderHyphenMan fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Apr 25, 2012

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



Paul Coffey posted:

I'm beginning to think I have a problem... I'm running out of room to put my whisky! The situation's not helped by the fact that the place I see movies at also has a liquor store that will validate the $20 (!!) parking fee if I spend $25+ there... thing is I don't drink this stuff fast enough. At least the bottles are pretty...



That whisky is your honor. Be proud.

NightConqueror
Oct 5, 2006
im in ur base killin ur mans

Paul Coffey posted:

I'm beginning to think I have a problem... I'm running out of room to put my whisky! The situation's not helped by the fact that the place I see movies at also has a liquor store that will validate the $20 (!!) parking fee if I spend $25+ there... thing is I don't drink this stuff fast enough. At least the bottles are pretty...



Seems to me like you need a good friend to help drink it all!

Phalex
May 14, 2002

Paul Coffey posted:

I'm beginning to think I have a problem... I'm running out of room to put my whisky! The situation's not helped by the fact that the place I see movies at also has a liquor store that will validate the $20 (!!) parking fee if I spend $25+ there... thing is I don't drink this stuff fast enough. At least the bottles are pretty...



Sweet balls, bro

toby
Dec 4, 2002

Not much of a bourbon guy huh? I haven't had that Bruichladdich but I have had their Octomore, it's worth trying

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






toby posted:

Not much of a bourbon guy huh? I haven't had that Bruichladdich but I have had their Octomore, it's worth trying

Not really comparable. The Octomore was an experiment in how puch peat they can cram in a whisky. Regular 'laddie is peated but not to the extreme levels of octomore.

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal

Phalex posted:

Sweet balls, bro

Ahh now I see it.

On a related note, I am heading to the liquor store soon and need a recommendation.

I just finished a Caol Ila and bottle of Glennmorangie Lasanta. I enjoyed both of them, but preferred the Caol Ila. What should I buy next?

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Thanks to whoever recommended Bulleit rye.

NightConqueror
Oct 5, 2006
im in ur base killin ur mans

Dirk Pitt posted:

Ahh now I see it.

On a related note, I am heading to the liquor store soon and need a recommendation.

I just finished a Caol Ila and bottle of Glennmorangie Lasanta. I enjoyed both of them, but preferred the Caol Ila. What should I buy next?

If you like Islay whiskey, I'd personally suggest either the Laphroaig Quarter Cask or the Ardbeg 10. I've had the Lasanta before, but not Caol Ila, so I don't know what kind of smokiness you like. The Quarter Cask is much more mellow than the Laphroaig 10 and the smoke is very subtle. Ardbeg is more of a salty, ocean-y flavor with a little more robust smoke, but still less than Laphroaig 10.

The Golden Man
Aug 4, 2007

toby posted:

Not much of a bourbon guy huh? I haven't had that Bruichladdich but I have had their Octomore, it's worth trying

Not so much. Hard to get anything other than Bulleit up here in Canada & I'm not super duper into it anyway except in cocktails.

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal

NightConqueror posted:

If you like Islay whiskey, I'd personally suggest either the Laphroaig Quarter Cask or the Ardbeg 10. I've had the Lasanta before, but not Caol Ila, so I don't know what kind of smokiness you like. The Quarter Cask is much more mellow than the Laphroaig 10 and the smoke is very subtle. Ardbeg is more of a salty, ocean-y flavor with a little more robust smoke, but still less than Laphroaig 10.

I think I will try Ardbeg, what is a good 12 year Highland? I have had Highland Park but want to branch out.

two_beer_bishes
Jun 27, 2004

Halloween Jack posted:

Thanks to whoever recommended Bulleit rye.

I just picked up a bottle of this a few weeks ago and I'm really enjoying it too, first time buying a rye and definitely buying it again!

Lear
Jul 6, 2007

"My third eye is squeegied quite cleanly."

kidsafe posted:

People tend to second guess their own suggestions when it comes to all but a few Diageo malts. They're seen as a huge faceless conglomerate which is 'very bad' and not crafty. They also admit straight-up that their ownership of single malt distilleries is a means to an end, and that end is maintaining the Johnnie Walker range. You almost never see Singleton (of any kind), Glenkinchie, Cardhu, Royal Lochnagar, etc. mentioned at all even though they're all perfectly drinkable.

Cragganmore is actually on the more popular side and it does get an occasional mention.

I am definitely seeing Cragganmore at various pubs more and more.

Interesting you spoke about the conglomerate. Glenkinchie was actually the only distillery I visited when I was in Scotland my one and only time. I only went there because it was the closest one to Edinburgh and I was running out of time. I had never heard of it before. I was floored at how good it was simply drank neat. The guide basically said that it's mostly used in blends, then showed me a list a mile long of all the blends that use it. At least in my area, it's quite Hell to find.

Anyway, I was quite shocked to see all of the distilleries that were also owned by this company pinned to the wall and just assumed that the scotch business was no different than any other - the eventual globbing together of them under a bigger, safer (financially) umbrella.

Lear fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Apr 25, 2012

Turkeybone
Dec 9, 2006

:chef: :eng99:
Just came in to say that I love black maple hill, and wish that I could get it here in upstate NY.

NightConqueror
Oct 5, 2006
im in ur base killin ur mans
Cracking this baby open tonight. Heard some good stuff about it, and for the price ($28), you really can't go wrong. If anything I love bourbon because quality stuff is so much more accessible for a cheaper price than Scotch.

Jahoodie
Jun 27, 2005
Wooo.... college!

Turkeybone posted:

Just came in to say that I love black maple hill, and wish that I could get it here in upstate NY.

I know I've seen it in NYC, and I can get it in Jersey fairly easy. Is upstate really that bleak?

Also drinking quartercask out of a flask is an experiment in manliness.

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib

Dirk Pitt posted:

I think I will try Ardbeg, what is a good 12 year Highland? I have had Highland Park but want to branch out.

You want a Highland highland or a Speyside Highland? The Macallan is good, though I'm told it's gone downhill in quality in the last few years.

I recently returned from a pilgrimage in Scotland, where Lagavulin has won me over as my favorite distillery, trumping now second-place Oban. For Oban, I've always been fond of the Distiller's Edition. Lagavulin's Distiller's Edition is also superb. I'll be trying to track down a bottle of Lagavulin's 12 year cask strength offering if I can.

Also, I must again recommend the Scotch Malt Whisky Society to anyone who is interested in complex, nuanced whiskies from single casks. It is truly outstanding, tasting the difference that a single cask makes versus a vatted offering. Single cask offerings to me are superb. While not indicative of the distillery (indeed, the SMWS doesn't label its bottles with distillery), each is a unique experience, never to be replicated. It also, because it is not watered or chill-filtered, offers unrivaled complexity and layering.

With regard to Bourbon, I didn't see if Eagle Rare or Bulleit were listed in the OP, but those are both excellent Kentucky bourbons.

rufius
Feb 27, 2011

Clear alcohols are for rich women on diets.

NightConqueror posted:

Cracking this baby open tonight. Heard some good stuff about it, and for the price ($28), you really can't go wrong. If anything I love bourbon because quality stuff is so much more accessible for a cheaper price than Scotch.



Definitely my favorite every day drinking bourbon. Cheaper than most single barrel bourbons and just as tasty.

Lear
Jul 6, 2007

"My third eye is squeegied quite cleanly."

Paramemetic posted:

With regard to Bourbon, I didn't see if Eagle Rare or Bulleit were listed in the OP, but those are both excellent Kentucky bourbons.

You have just set my Friday night schedule. I'm in an extremely bourbon mood this Friday and will try one of these after work.

Turkeybone
Dec 9, 2006

:chef: :eng99:

Jahoodie posted:

I know I've seen it in NYC, and I can get it in Jersey fairly easy. Is upstate really that bleak?

Also drinking quartercask out of a flask is an experiment in manliness.

I first had it in Baltimore, but up in Ithaca the place that has a typically AMAZING selection doesn't carry it. Just an issue with distributors, I suppose. Ah well.

Bunk Rogers
Mar 14, 2002

Lear posted:

You have just set my Friday night schedule. I'm in an extremely bourbon mood this Friday and will try one of these after work.

Word of warning. I've tried a whole lot of Bourbon over the last year and Eagle Rare was, by far, the most disappointing.

My favorites: Blanton's and Four Roses.

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib

Bunk Rogers posted:

Word of warning. I've tried a whole lot of Bourbon over the last year and Eagle Rare was, by far, the most disappointing.

My favorites: Blanton's and Four Roses.

I'd recommend Bulleit over the Eagle Rare, as well. The thing about the Eagle is it's single barrel, and I've read people blown away by one bottle who hated the next, and vice versa. I've never had one I considered bad but I've also not had it in several years, as when I buy utility bourbon it is generally Knob Creek anymore (used to be Maker's, but I've grown fond of Knob), and when I buy a sipping bourbon I go for Bulleit or Woodford Reserve.

Mikey Purp
Sep 30, 2008

I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.
Dollar for dollar I have found Eagle Rare to be one of the best values for every day bourbon. I do agree that Bulleit will be more consistent, but I have never had a bottle of Eagle Rare that I didn't think was very good despite noticing differences bottle to bottle.

Lear
Jul 6, 2007

"My third eye is squeegied quite cleanly."
Right on. I'll start with Bulliet tonight then. I appreciate the recommendations and I'll report back with my experience.


EDIT:

I'm a man of me word. It begins. Funny enough, as I was standing in the liquor store, I was looking at the bottle on the shelf thinking to myself 'Interesting French name...'. At that point, two guys came up behind me, speaking rapidly in French to each other about this whiskey whilst pointing at it. It was an omen.

I'm in Texas, mind you.

Lear fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Apr 28, 2012

Aglet56
Sep 1, 2011
It's a great whiskey, but for the record, it's pronounced "bullet", like the thing that comes out of a gun, not "bull-eh". I made the same mistake myself when I first heard about it, and it was only a lucky Google search for "how do you pronounce bulleit" that kept me from embarrassing myself in front of a more judgmental bartender.

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib
Picked up a bottle of Four Roses today to give it a try this evening, having never had it but I figured I should give it a shot. I got the Small Batch rather than the Single Barrel, on grounds that I've found single barrels can be hit or miss (see Eagle Rare) whereas a Small Batch should be more indicative of the character of the whiskey. Looking forward to trying it, anyhow.

What are your all thoughts on Russell's Reserve? I've had two or three bottles now in the last few months and I find it pretty good, smoother than many and generally a solid whiskey, but maybe not worth the price relative to other similar offerings.

VampiricGiraffe
Feb 5, 2012
^^those are exactly my thoughts on Russell's. A quality bourbon I'd happily drink, but doesn't really differentiate itself from its surrounding selection and IMO you're better off spending 2-6 more bucks and coming home with Woodford.

The one bottle of Eagle Rare I've had has been awesome. That said, as noted above your mileage may vary with single barrels.

Just picked up: Sazerac Rye, Four Roses Small Batch, and Woodford Reserve Double Oaked.

Sazerac: I have had a grand total of two ryes (this and Bulleit) so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but this is pretty tasty. As per normal, a warmer, spicier experience than bourbon, but still not harsh and very drinkable.

Four Roses: This has a more fruity overtone on the front of the tongue than most of the bourbons I've had. Easy to drink, and they've done a good job doing something noticeably different than the standard bourbon experience (this and

Woodford Double Oaked: The smoothest bourbon I've ever had. Takes woodford's trademark smoothness up a notch while maintaining a very full flavor. I think I will have to have a taste test between this and the standard woodford reserve...how about right now (so its noon, sue me)?

...The double oaked has less alcohol vapor on the nose, and almost no alcohol burn whatsoever going down. Distiller's select has more caramel to it (especially on the nose) and more bite at the back of the tongue (though still one of the smoother bourbons I've had)...double oaked has a slightly thicker mouthfeel, and (as might be expected) a little more oaky full flavor...I don't know how to explain it, it's not that it's more flavor as much as that it's more solid.

Verdict: a slightly nicer version of an already great experience. spendier than I'd have as a standard drink-all-the-time bourbon, but an awesome experience you should try and worth keeping a bottle around for special occasions (to match with a handle of distiller's select for every day sipping perhaps). Would be interesting in hearing impressions from anyone else who's found a bottle.

drowned in pussy juice
Oct 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
I tried the Four Roses Single Barrel the other day and it was really tangy, a lot more pepper than I'd anticipated from how it'd been described to me. It's pretty new in at my work and I don't see a lot of use for it in cocktails (which is mostly what I use american whiskeys for in the first place) but its a pretty dope sipping bourbon in its own right.

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib
What are thoughts on Tennessee whiskey? An old friend of mine always used to push Dickel down my throat, but as I was a young man I didn't appreciate it much. I also picked up a bottle of that when I was at the store, along with that Four Roses, just out of curiosity. Interestingly, the Internet tells me these are heavily smokey with charcoal from charring the barrels. This intrigues me exactly because I like my Scotch with lots of smoke, I'm a big fan of Islays and smokier Highlands. So I may give the Dickel a try before the Four Roses tonight. My father raised me to drink Kentucky bourbon, so I have always had a negative preconception of Tennessee whiskey, but maybe now is the time to develop my own opinion on the matter.

NightConqueror
Oct 5, 2006
im in ur base killin ur mans

Paramemetic posted:

What are thoughts on Tennessee whiskey? An old friend of mine always used to push Dickel down my throat, but as I was a young man I didn't appreciate it much. I also picked up a bottle of that when I was at the store, along with that Four Roses, just out of curiosity. Interestingly, the Internet tells me these are heavily smokey with charcoal from charring the barrels. This intrigues me exactly because I like my Scotch with lots of smoke, I'm a big fan of Islays and smokier Highlands. So I may give the Dickel a try before the Four Roses tonight. My father raised me to drink Kentucky bourbon, so I have always had a negative preconception of Tennessee whiskey, but maybe now is the time to develop my own opinion on the matter.

Dickel is ok, nothing special. Very similar to Jack Daniels. There might be a smidgen of smoke in Tennessee whiskey but nowhere close to scotch levels. Honestly, if you want to taste the pinnacle of Tennessee whiskey, I'd give Jack Daniels Single Barrel a shot. I'm not crazy about Tennessee whiskey and generally just regegate it to mixer duty, but the Single Barrel is very drinkable on its own.

Base Emitter
Apr 1, 2012

?
Are others in Washington State having trouble with store closures and inventory? The store nearest me in Seattle is closed, and a couple of others I've been to have half the selection they used to.

Before the vote on I-1183 (a state voter's initiative to close state-owned liquor stores and legalize liquor sales in private stores) liquor stores suddenly got a much better selection (by WA state historical standards, anyway) and I had a lot of new stuff to try. Since the initiative passed, the stores are understandably trying to get rid of inventory and a lot of the cool stuff has disappeared.

I'm hoping that once the dust settles the whiskey selection will be better than it ever has been, but private sales don't start until June, and who knows how long it will be before stores really get rolling on the "specialist" stuff.

Anybody know of any plans to open something special? Or is it just going to be Costco with an aisle of flavored vodkas?

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib

NightConqueror posted:

Dickel is ok, nothing special. Very similar to Jack Daniels. There might be a smidgen of smoke in Tennessee whiskey but nowhere close to scotch levels. Honestly, if you want to taste the pinnacle of Tennessee whiskey, I'd give Jack Daniels Single Barrel a shot. I'm not crazy about Tennessee whiskey and generally just regegate it to mixer duty, but the Single Barrel is very drinkable on its own.

I gave it a nose and my wife started making fun of my "look of condescension." I guess I looked fairly incredulous, which I explain by pointing out that Dickel had the gall to remove the e from his product's name ("whisky") because he felt it was comparable to Scotch. The nose from the bottle was that of mediocre bourbon, no hint of charcoal, just mildly medicinal and sweet.

So instead I decided to try the Four Roses first. The nose is extremely vanilla I feel, and has a medicinal finish. Most intriguingly I feel like the finish is longer than most bourbon. It has almost a cherry sweetness component to it. I haven't drank bourbon in a few months as I've been mainly on a Scotch kick, but after I acclimated back to the world of bourbon it is definitely solid, a contender for a solid sipper. It's too expensive to make into an Old Fashioned routinely, but I will probably experiment with a dash of bitters. For that duty, there is Knob Creek.

Gonna give the Dickel a go now though. I only picked it up because it was the favorite utility bourbon of this old friend of mine, but I like to give him more credit than what I expect from this nose.

PainBreak
Jun 9, 2001
I should have purchased a lottery ticket today... I found a box in my closet from when I moved 2 years ago, and at the bottom was a half full bottle of Baker's.

Cpt.Wacky
Apr 17, 2005

Base Emitter posted:

Are others in Washington State having trouble with store closures and inventory? The store nearest me in Seattle is closed, and a couple of others I've been to have half the selection they used to.

Before the vote on I-1183 (a state voter's initiative to close state-owned liquor stores and legalize liquor sales in private stores) liquor stores suddenly got a much better selection (by WA state historical standards, anyway) and I had a lot of new stuff to try. Since the initiative passed, the stores are understandably trying to get rid of inventory and a lot of the cool stuff has disappeared.

I'm hoping that once the dust settles the whiskey selection will be better than it ever has been, but private sales don't start until June, and who knows how long it will be before stores really get rolling on the "specialist" stuff.

Anybody know of any plans to open something special? Or is it just going to be Costco with an aisle of flavored vodkas?

I'm not sure anyone really knows what's going on. Out here on the peninsula the two local stores have had their licenses auctioned off, but the state never owned the property (and the building?), and I don't think the auction included inventory. I haven't stopped in since March so I'm not sure what the inventory status is here. I'd like to think that someone will reopen the stores, but they'll be facing competition from Costco, Safeway and Albertsons at the very least. I wonder if Walmart is going to get in on it too?

On the other hand it should be great for the local tribes until things shake out.

attila
Jun 15, 2007
To dream the impossible dream...?

VampiricGiraffe posted:

Woodford Double Oaked: The smoothest bourbon I've ever had. Takes woodford's trademark smoothness up a notch while maintaining a very full flavor. I think I will have to have a taste test between this and the standard woodford reserve...how about right now (so its noon, sue me)?

Just got a bottle when I was home and visited the distillery. Sadly, I didn't get to taste it there (nor their two ryes). I'm hoping for good things though.

I also saw the Buffalo Trace Experimental Collection and single barrels at the liquor store I stopped in. But at $50 for 375 mL of the Experimental Collection I passed. I have a couple photos of the bottles I'll try and post though.

Turkeybone, Northside should have Rowan's Creek and Noah's Mill which are from the same distillery (which may or may not be Heaven Hill from what I've heard, they also make WIllet). Rowan's Creek is good stuff and worth picking up at some point. I liked the folks up at Triphammer as well and they have a decent selection. Ask them if they can order it for you special. No guarantee, but they will do special orders.

Lear
Jul 6, 2007

"My third eye is squeegied quite cleanly."

Aglet56 posted:

It's a great whiskey, but for the record, it's pronounced "bullet", like the thing that comes out of a gun, not "bull-eh". I made the same mistake myself when I first heard about it, and it was only a lucky Google search for "how do you pronounce bulleit" that kept me from embarrassing myself in front of a more judgmental bartender.

Ahh good to know! I wish I could explain in detail what I liked about this whiskey but my own granular knowledge of the actual taste of these things is pretty bad. Suffice it to say, it was just a nice smooth whiskey that I drank neat with a splash of water, or on the rocks at a pool party the day after. I really really enjoyed it and it didn't seem to hit me in the back of the throat which is always nice.

My wife, who is not a straight whiskey drinker, even liked it.

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib
Gave the Dickel another try just now. It's been relegated to Old Fashioned duty.

That said, it makes a pretty solid Old Fashioned.

Jahoodie
Jun 27, 2005
Wooo.... college!

Paramemetic posted:

Gave the Dickel another try just now. It's been relegated to Old Fashioned duty.

That said, it makes a pretty solid Old Fashioned.

The corn sweetness also goes nice in a Lynchberg lemonade. I like making a tart lemonade myself, or using the Simply Lemonade brand store-bought juice.

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NightConqueror
Oct 5, 2006
im in ur base killin ur mans
Anyone have experience with Wild Turkey 101 Rye? Suddenly I've begun to see 81 Rye, and I've heard due to the explosion of rye popularity they're going to roll out the 101 again. Considering picking up the 81 - that is unless you guys have any other good rye suggestions.

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