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vilkacis
Feb 16, 2011

TurnipFritter posted:

Nah, you're just imagining things.

This made me laugh like an idiot. I'm going to save it so I can giggle at it again whenever I want.

(Then I had to hop over to tubedubber and paste Evangelion's opening theme over DS2's intro cinematic. :downs:)

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Catalina
May 20, 2008



vilkacis posted:

This made me laugh like an idiot. I'm going to save it so I can giggle at it again whenever I want.

(Then I had to hop over to tubedubber and paste Evangelion's opening theme over DS2's intro cinematic. :downs:)

Great now *I'M* giggling like an idiot.
That makes me wonder if there's a DS2 edited opening of NGE on Niconico or something. I know there's a pretty awesome one of Persona 3.

Catalina fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Apr 28, 2012

Thuryl
Mar 14, 2007

My postillion has been struck by lightning.

Tallgeese posted:

While the physical options are a lot better this time around, you can still only use, at most, two physical leader teams. There's only two good sources of Pierce in this game.

Three, if you want to make an Ultimate Hit/Attack All/Rage Soul team. The skills needed for that are very much endgame/NG+ things, though.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

You made a fine post for yourself. ...For a casualry, I suppose.

Thuryl posted:

Three, if you want to make an Ultimate Hit/Attack All/Rage Soul team. The skills needed for that are very much endgame/NG+ things, though.

Technically, you could have a fourth physical character who's based on the Holy Strike active skill if you were really invested in having a full team of people who destroy demons by punching them to death. It's probably best to stick to two, however, and physical skills aren't so great until the second half of the game so there might not even be space for two physical characters until then.

Near the end game I had two physical characters: the first was the MC with Multi-Strike, Multi-Hit, Piercing Hit / Drain Hit, Phys Drain, Phys Amp / Blitzkrieg and the second was Makoto with Samarecarm, Mediarahan / Attack All, Pierce, Phys Repel / Rage Soul. They both had a Dragon in their team and killed the end boss much faster than should be possible.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Not to derail the thread with an ADTRW question, but what version of Evangelion should I watch to get the story references?

I've got Persona 4 on the way now. I never thought I would see an actual copy that cheap.

TurnipFritter
Apr 21, 2010
10,000 POSTS ON TALKING TIME

Dehry posted:

Not to derail the thread with an ADTRW question, but what version of Evangelion should I watch to get the story references?

The comic, even though it still hasn't finished running.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

TurnipFritter posted:

The comic, even though it still hasn't finished running.

The comic's been running for 16 years and it's still not finished (And it's not even new material, he's barely up to half of the EoE movie.)

TurnipFritter
Apr 21, 2010
10,000 POSTS ON TALKING TIME

Tae posted:

The comic's been running for 16 years and it's still not finished (And it's not even new material, he's barely up to half of the EoE movie.)

I'm pretty sure at this point they're just dragging it out so they can release it alongside the final Rebuild movie.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

King of Solomon posted:

I can't comment on the difficulty since it's been a while since I've played Nocturne, but I can say this: do not do this. DDS2 is not a sequel to DDS, it is the second half of the story.

Ah okay, thanks for the heads up. I'll go for Nocturne first, then.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Thanks for the recommendation. I'm a few pages in and already see the similarities. Now if I could only find it cheap.

Hamsterlady
Jul 8, 2010

Corpse Party, bitches.
All this Devil Survivor 2 chat made me pick Devil Survivor Overclocked back up to try and beat it.

Right now I'm stuck at some awful escort mission with loads of Jack Frosts that spam Charm on anything you attack but don't kill in that turn and it really isn't fun at all. Is the whole game going to be like this, because if so I'll just give up now.

I actually had a lot of fun with the game up to this point, I'm just afraid the whole game is going to be full of missions like this, and I don't have the patience for that.

edit: edited to be less mad at video games.

Hamsterlady fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Apr 28, 2012

Momomo
Dec 26, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole
I loved Devil Survivor, but there were way too many bullshit escort quests like that. Sorry to say, if you're that frustrated, it's not going to get much better.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

So, some more Persona 3 inquiries.

Yukari is level 37 and has a whopping two skills left to learn. Is this the game's way of saying "hey we gave you these spiffy new characters maybe use them", or am I missing something here? Because she will seriously fall behind on damage output and healing with her current stuff.

Shinjiro just joined my team. I remember reading somewhere that he dies at some point. Is he a trap character, i.e. you give him tons of exp and then he leaves the party before the final boss and whoops you have to fill his slot with a level 20 character, or should I not worry about it?

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Amppelix posted:

Yukari is level 37 and has a whopping two skills left to learn. Is this the game's way of saying "hey we gave you these spiffy new characters maybe use them", or am I missing something here?

If I recall the bit where people (hella minor spoiler) level up their personas gives them new skills to learn.

I also haven't played the drat thing since release though so I may be mistaken on this.

Iceclaw
Nov 4, 2009

Fa la lanky down dilly, motherfuckers.

Amppelix posted:

So, some more Persona 3 inquiries.

Yukari is level 37 and has a whopping two skills left to learn. Is this the game's way of saying "hey we gave you these spiffy new characters maybe use them", or am I missing something here? Because she will seriously fall behind on damage output and healing with her current stuff.

Shinjiro just joined my team. I remember reading somewhere that he dies at some point. Is he a trap character, i.e. you give him tons of exp and then he leaves the party before the final boss and whoops you have to fill his slot with a level 20 character, or should I not worry about it?

You won't have enough time to waste anything on Shinjiro.

ZeusJupitar
Jul 7, 2009

Amppelix posted:

So, some more Persona 3 inquiries.

Yukari is level 37 and has a whopping two skills left to learn. Is this the game's way of saying "hey we gave you these spiffy new characters maybe use them", or am I missing something here? Because she will seriously fall behind on damage output and healing with her current stuff.

Shinjiro just joined my team. I remember reading somewhere that he dies at some point. Is he a trap character, i.e. you give him tons of exp and then he leaves the party before the final boss and whoops you have to fill his slot with a level 20 character, or should I not worry about it?

Not only is Shinjiro a trap character who leaves the party, he's a trap character who leaves the party not long after joining

And Syrg Sapphire is correct about party members unlocking more skills later on.

Iceclaw
Nov 4, 2009

Fa la lanky down dilly, motherfuckers.

ZeusJupitar posted:

Not only is Shinjiro a trap character who leaves the party, he's a trap character who leaves the party not long after joining

And Syrg Sapphire is correct about party members unlocking more skills later on.

He's not really one, though. At worst, you lose a couple levels worth of experience, which does not really screw you over.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


In Persona 3 what happens with the new skills if you over level your party in Monad on NG+?

Hamsterlady
Jul 8, 2010

Corpse Party, bitches.

Len posted:

In Persona 3 what happens with the new skills if you over level your party in Monad on NG+?

They learn everything instantly when their Persona levels up. The first time I played I had Fuuka learn two or three skills at once when her Persona leveled up just because I fought every shadow on every floor.

Fuuka won't actually do her thing where she describes her new skills if this happens, though, so I got really confused by Oracle for awhile.

vanov
Sep 19, 2005

sup space lol

vilkacis posted:

This made me laugh like an idiot. I'm going to save it so I can giggle at it again whenever I want.

(Then I had to hop over to tubedubber and paste Evangelion's opening theme over DS2's intro cinematic. :downs:)

This seriously works way too well.

Social Links are probably my favorite part of P3/4. I also love Tartarus, conceptually, and I really loved how thoughtful the integration of Tartarus into reality (down to certain party members being busy because of real-life things) over P4's version, where your entire day gets eaten up by the Midnight Channel. I don't get why people have to get angry about this poo poo, or talk about games they haven't played yet (I openly admit that I just cannot get my teeth into DS2 even though I bought and beat both DS and DSOC). I always viewed Social Links as a natural progression to Tales of's skits, and the "everyone gets to do something cool to tie up their loose ends" sequence in Chrono Trigger is one of the reasons that game is even playable in a modern context.

Dante Logos
Dec 31, 2010
Well, I just came back from the cesspool of adolescent anxiety and anime known as Megaten Imagine

If you were hoping for reduced prices on ingame crap, allow me to shatter your dream by saying that the prices in crowns is comparable to the prices you see in Areia games.

As for content, I assume that Atlus would do something about that eventually, but they were too busy trying to get the game back up to add anything of substance. I'll keep you guys posted on it, but I am not holding too much hope.

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008
Just give up on Imagine, like i did. Atlus won't do poo poo about it. After all, CAVE are the ones actually developing it, and they're pretty much the worst goddamn developers ever. gently caress CAVE. They're not even good at shmups. :mad:

Dante Logos
Dec 31, 2010
I'll derive what entertainment I can before moving on. It does amuse me at this time.

I am probably echoing the sentiments of a lot of people, but it is a shame that they took a good idea and ran it into the ground. Maybe when this is all over, someone can make a private server that can give this game justice. But that is a pipe dream at best.

PurplieNurplie
Jan 14, 2009
So I'm just starting Devil Survivor 2, just finished the first real battle (fought with uber leveled tall lady)

There's a lot of dialogue choices in this game already, and I started over with a FAQ to get the max affection bumps. Is this a good way to handle that stuff, or should I just kind of wing it and see what happens?

That's probably a weird question, but I'm just kind of wondering what sort of effect that will have on the game. Will I just not have as many choices for ending stuff or something?

Any help here would be appreciated.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

PurplieNurplie posted:

So I'm just starting Devil Survivor 2, just finished the first real battle (fought with uber leveled tall lady)

There's a lot of dialogue choices in this game already, and I started over with a FAQ to get the max affection bumps. Is this a good way to handle that stuff, or should I just kind of wing it and see what happens?

That's probably a weird question, but I'm just kind of wondering what sort of effect that will have on the game. Will I just not have as many choices for ending stuff or something?

Any help here would be appreciated.

Don't use a FAQ. It's really easy to level up characters you like. Just talk to them from time to time and don't be an rear end in a top hat and you can max everyone easily.

You'll have fewer choices for endings and characters in those endings. There is one case where a character can die if you don't make their fate reach a certain level. Level Io up to 3 or so ASAP and you'll be fine.

vilkacis
Feb 16, 2011

PurplieNurplie posted:

There's a lot of dialogue choices in this game already, and I started over with a FAQ to get the max affection bumps. Is this a good way to handle that stuff, or should I just kind of wing it and see what happens?

Definitely wing it on your first run.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Well, I can see why Matador's got the reputation he's got. Better start grinding.

JumbocactuarX27
Jan 9, 2011

Blargh! I'm a space parasite!

Dehry posted:

Thanks for the recommendation. I'm a few pages in and already see the similarities. Now if I could only find it cheap.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you want to buy the manga, you'd better start looking for volume 9 now. It may cost you several hundred dollars. The only way to get the complete story right now is one of the TV series releases (out of which the remastered one is the best quality).

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Brother Entropy posted:

Well, I can see why Matador's got the reputation he's got. Better start grinding.

He's meant to teach you how buffs and your set-up matter a lot.

At level 19 you can have an entire team immune to force with 3 out of 4 off the buffs in the game.

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008

Brother Entropy posted:

Well, I can see why Matador's got the reputation he's got. Better start grinding.

On the bright side, Matador is pretty much your final exam. Once you manage to beat him, you'll probably be getting pretty good at stuff.

In fact, i actually miss Matador. He's a cakewalk compared to some of the missions in DS2. Am i the only one thinking it's the hardest SMT ever? :sigh:

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Alteisen posted:

He's meant to teach you how buffs and your set-up matter a lot.

At level 19 you can have an entire team immune to force with 3 out of 4 off the buffs in the game.

Yeah, just had to grind up to 18, wasn't a big deal the second time through. Only really obnoxious thing was that drat agility buff right at the start.

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008
Jesus loving CHRIST. gently caress Megrez. This is a new low, even for Atlus.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Technique posted:

Jesus loving CHRIST. gently caress Megrez. This is a new low, even for Atlus.

I know right, I just loved hitting him hard enough to kill him with my first shot but NOPE, CUTSCENE, MOVING OVER HERE FIRST.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

That fight becomes ten times easier if you just abuse demons with Flight or Phantasm.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Ibram Gaunt posted:

That fight becomes ten times easier if you just abuse demons with Flight or Phantasm.

That just stops the demons on the platforms, you still need devil speed to reach the rear end in a top hat fast enough and he still summons minis of that ice cream thing which can hurt the entire party with one of their attacks.

Megrez was just about the point where I started to lose interest, then day 7 just killed it.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
Yeah that's another thing that's killing my desire to do NG+ runs on DS2: I just hit Megrez again and I forgot how much busywork they made your rear end do on day 5 onwards to kill bosses. "Well no you're traveling with 3 incarnations of Lucifer and a mass of the heavenly host, but you're still going to have to do all this horseshit before you can just pound someone's head in."

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008
On the bright side, Multi-hit + +Stone + Grimoire = some HILARIOUS instakills on team leaders. Now i just need to level up all these goddamn Ice Dance demons i fused.

Including a Pyro Jack with Ice Dance and Anti-Ice. Godspeed little fella. :unsmith:

DeathBySpoon
Dec 17, 2007

I got myself a paper clip!

Dehry posted:

Not to derail the thread with an ADTRW question, but what version of Evangelion should I watch to get the story references?

I've got Persona 4 on the way now. I never thought I would see an actual copy that cheap.

A few people answered, but watching the TV show and then the End of Evangelion movie is a great way IMO. Don't watch the new movies (1.11 / 2.22) until you've seen the show / read the comic, as they make some fairly drastic changes to the plot and themes.

Pierce
Apr 7, 2007

Fool!

Syrg Sapphire posted:

Yeah that's another thing that's killing my desire to do NG+ runs on DS2: I just hit Megrez again and I forgot how much busywork they made your rear end do on day 5 onwards to kill bosses. "Well no you're traveling with 3 incarnations of Lucifer and a mass of the heavenly host, but you're still going to have to do all this horseshit before you can just pound someone's head in."

By the time you hit NG+ you can have all of Megrez's points covered in a couple of turns. NG+ was pretty bad rear end even if your uber demons are not as useful as movement exploitation teams.

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thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Man people who were saying the first dungeon and that first optional boss in Persona 4 were some of the harder parts of the game were right. Just rescued Kanji on the 22nd of May and found the bosses pretty easy, toughest dudes in the dungeon were those mages with the elemental spells that hit everyone and chain killed me a few times. Think I've got most of it down, probably gonna end up missing alot of the social link stuff though, too much stuff to keep track of and I'm not using a guide or anything. I only just realised exactly what having the right Persona with you does for S-links. Or I think I did, it makes them grow quicker right? One question since I'm about to get a new guy probably, is this one of those nice RPGs that has characters you aren't using level up with the dudes you don't use?

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