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Broken Box posted:Weasel Soup. What else is there to look forward to this season? This episode just reminded me that Renly is pretty much the only oh-gently caress moment in CoK. I mean... What's left? Blackwater? That's just going to be an hour of random swords and green fire. It's going to be boring as poo poo to watch.
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Trico posted:What else is there to look forward to this season? This episode just reminded me that Renly is pretty much the only oh-gently caress moment in CoK. I mean... What's left? Blackwater? That's just going to be an hour of random swords and green fire. It's going to be boring as poo poo to watch. If an hour of a war scene is boring to you, you must have some supremely high standards for TV. But anyway, there is still the House of the Undying scene which I think will be pretty awesome to watch.
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Apr 30, 2012 07:54
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And, you know, that whole sacking of Winterfell thing.
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Apr 30, 2012 08:33
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The Slippery Nipple posted:And, you know, that whole sacking of Winterfell thing. Which will happen off-screen because HBO blew their budget with the Battle of Blackwater.
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Apr 30, 2012 09:29
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The sacking of Winterfell doesn't need to be a big budget scene, it's like 3 recognizable actors and 27 extras sneaking into a castle at night and killing more extras. From the smart thread: quote:GRRM isn't running GoT like it's a game of D&D though, it's a story. It's very likely the Dragons will become an important thing sooner or later, for example, and we know from backstory that Dragons are powerful enough to conquer continents. Wights are some freaky bussiness too, if you believe old Nan et al. It could be a story more about how those things are developed and used in the seting of a war rather than about the war itself. Do the dragons do anything after Drogon burns down the House of the Undying in ACoK and before they toast Quentyn? I guess they're conveniently locked away in a pit for like 3,000 pages because GRRM couldn't find a way to write loving dragons in a more interesting way than Dany making GBS threads.
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Apr 30, 2012 09:35
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Evan Montegarde posted:The sacking of Winterfell doesn't need to be a big budget scene, it's like 3 recognizable actors and 27 extras sneaking into a castle at night and killing more extras. Yeah, but there's that one bit where Whatshisface turns up with a Northern army then gets slaughtered by that other Northern army.
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Apr 30, 2012 09:39
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They never really got across in the show how pissant Stannis's forces are before he offs Renly hey. Watching that otaku assemble thing the dude thinks Stannis could have actually fought anyone somehow
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Apr 30, 2012 09:46
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Evan Montegarde posted:Do the dragons do anything after Drogon burns down the House of the Undying in ACoK and before they toast Quentyn? I guess they're conveniently locked away in a pit for like 3,000 pages because GRRM couldn't find a way to write loving dragons in a more interesting way than Dany making GBS threads. Um, Drogon flies back to Dany after she "sells" it to Astapor. And then he eats children.
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Apr 30, 2012 10:11
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Evan Montegarde posted:Do the dragons do anything after Drogon burns down the House of the Undying in ACoK and before they toast Quentyn? I guess they're conveniently locked away in a pit for like 3,000 pages because GRRM couldn't find a way to write loving dragons in a more interesting way than Dany making GBS threads. well they fried that city. maybe even a couple of cities, but it all kinda blends together like a giant poo poo smoothie or something. the problem is that dragons are A Big Deal and p much always win and you can only write about them killing loving everything so many times before it gets old. like the only way it would be a fair fight is if they fought a whole loving continent or something. hey wait nuncle jimbo fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Apr 30, 2012 |
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Apr 30, 2012 10:23
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nuncle jimbo posted:well they fried that city. maybe even a couple of cities, but it all kinda blends together like a giant poo poo smoothie or something. the problem is that dragons are A Big Deal and you can only write about them killing loving everything so many times before it gets old. like the only way it would be a fair fight is if they fought a whole loving continent or something. hey wait I mean poo poo, who would want to read a book about dragons doing poo poo? It would be terrible because we already have Temeraire even though the main dragon there doesn't even breathe fire and is ridden by Mr. Darcy. Where were we again? Oh yeah, Drogon is awesome 420 burn short humanoids erryday 
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Apr 30, 2012 10:37
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Thing is, he could have moved the "dragons go berserk" bit to the end of feast or beginning of dance and skipped all that horrible poo poo. If he wasn't obviously cramming it in to get something vaguely publishable done to get HBO and his editors off his back, he might have realized that. Maybe he could have managed to break the "Let's leave Westeros, where things happen, to see what happens in Essos, which is nothing, ever. Meanwhile, back at the Wall..." pattern.
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Trico posted:What else is there to look forward to this season? This episode just reminded me that Renly is pretty much the only oh-gently caress moment in CoK. I mean... What's left? Blackwater? That's just going to be an hour of random swords and green fire. It's going to be boring as poo poo to watch. Jon having to kill Qhorin, then being taken to see the mammoths and giants is gonna be a pretty cool end-of-season stinger, just like seeing the dragons was for season 1.
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Hedrigall posted:Jon having to kill Qhorin with fierce pouting, the actor displaying next to zero actual proficiency with the sword, then being taken to see the mammoths and giants is gonna be a horribly underwhelming example of bad CGI mixed with actors who do not convincingly act like said CGI entities are there, just like seeing the dragons was for season 1. Yeah, I suspect it will suck too. Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Apr 30, 2012 |
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Apr 30, 2012 14:29
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Octy posted:Which will happen off-screen because HBO blew their budget with the Battle of Blackwater. It doesn't need a big budget though, part of the point is that there's only a handful of people involved.
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Apr 30, 2012 14:45
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I think some people on one of these threads floated the idea that they might also wrap up with the attack at the Fist of the First Men, so they can kick off next season with the retreat to the Wall. That might be a bit much coming straight off of the Blackwater in episode 9, but it's a possibility.
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Apr 30, 2012 14:52
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I quite enjoyed that episode. Is the Tickler Arya's first victim in the book? If so, who is it that she stabs to death while asking 'Where is the brotherhood?' and stuff over and over?
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Apr 30, 2012 14:55
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Tony Danza Claus posted:
"the man"? Jesus Christ, Mortarboards on Your Heads and Miniature Chalkboards with E=MC2 Written on Them In Your Hands thread, I know you're all too lazy to crack a book, but you can't even be bothered to learn "the man"'s name? Holy moley!
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Apr 30, 2012 15:00
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Junkenstein posted:If so, who is it that she stabs to death while asking 'Where is the brotherhood?' and stuff over and over? The Tickler. Her first victim through Jaqen is the guy who takes care of the servants. I wonder how they will do it in the series. I mean, Tywin is right there, they will have to come up for a very good reason for him not to be the next target.
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ZearothK posted:The Tickler. FFS, that was one of her very best scenes.
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She'll whisper the third name Jaqen and he'll leave. Forever. The next time an actor quits, guess who got Jaqen'd. And then Arya will go back to not-burned down Winterfell because action is expensive, and she'll never go to Braavos because sets are expensive, and she'll live happily ever after in Winterfell as a master swordsman because there's just no money in the budget. It all went to Ros.
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Yeah I don't know how they are going to do the whole Cat of the Canals thing in Braavos, they'd have to build a whole new city just for Arya, no way they are spending that much money just for her.
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Apr 30, 2012 15:24
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Syrio will be the dude who trains her at Winterfell because HBO.
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El Hefe posted:Yeah I don't know how they are going to do the whole Cat of the Canals thing in Braavos, they'd have to build a whole new city just for Arya, no way they are spending that much money just for her. An single CGI pan shot of the city that they'll reuse and recut for each scene in Bravoos coupled with one alley made out of cardboard.
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Braavosian alleyways are going to look a lot like the ones at King's Landing.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Braavosian alleyways are going to look a lot like the ones at King's Landing.
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Factor_VIII posted:Move the House of Black and White to Glad to help, as always.
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Tony Danza Claus posted:With Renly dead, the Ph.D. in being Smart thread is already putting every egg ever in the Robb basket. Evan Montegarde posted:Do the dragons do anything after Drogon burns down the House of the Undying in ACoK and before they toast Quentyn? I guess they're conveniently locked away in a pit for like 3,000 pages because GRRM couldn't find a way to write loving dragons in a more interesting way than Dany making GBS threads.
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Why cookie Rocket posted:"the man"? Jesus Christ, Mortarboards on Your Heads and Miniature Chalkboards with E=MC2 Written on Them In Your Hands thread, I know you're all too lazy to crack a book, but you can't even be bothered to learn "the man"'s name? Holy moley! Who, Syrio?
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Fog Tripper posted:Who, Syrio? No, Darkstar, didn't you see the Tickler's ear?
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Apr 30, 2012 18:24
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SpaceMost posted:One of them eats a kid and then Dany's all, "Oh noooo!" "Why yes, my ultimate goal is to ride my dragons over to Westeros and bury the Iron Throne under a mountain of burnt corpses. ...what's that you say? One of my dragons ate a person? Why I never."
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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SpaceMost posted:Why oh why cant the Red Wedding be this season? It's all about the big picture, man. A whole season of Robb-shilling will make the RW all the sweeter.
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Apr 30, 2012 18:31
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misguided rage posted:"Why yes, my ultimate goal is to ride my dragons over to Westeros and bury the Iron Throne under a mountain of burnt corpses.
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Apr 30, 2012 18:36
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Welp, it's official. I watched the latest GoT episode on HBO and I've got to say, I'm done rooting for this show. I'll still watch, mostly because I get more enjoyment bitching about it than I do trying to genuinely enjoy most shows these days, but I've hit that point where I can recognize all the "GRRM-isms" and "HBO-isms" that are dragging the show down and the only things I really liked from the books--the scope and scale--aren't even well-represented despite a budget that rivals most movies.
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Most movies aren't ten hours.misguided rage posted:"Why yes, my ultimate goal is to ride my dragons over to Westeros and bury the Iron Throne under a mountain of burnt corpses. unlimited shrimp fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Apr 30, 2012 |
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SpaceMost posted:I love how horrified she is, as though she didn't foresee her ravenous flying apex predators ever eating anything but goats. Of course Dany's true role is to be a potential AA and to go to Asshai. Which isn't even interesting. From the very beginning I've been bothered by magic and prophecies in this series as they take time and focus away from gool ol' court intrigue. Heck, it would've been better if Viserys had lived. He was a dick with problems but at least he totally would've invaded Westeros.
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Rurik posted:That really makes me think how she would've had taken Westeros back. Dany certainly talks about her father's throne, but her actions show her heart isn't in retaking it (see: Meereen) and there hasn't been a single passage in which she has pondered the means of retaking it. All those soldiers she'll have to burn with her dragons are husbands and fathers and how can somebody who thinks of herself as mother of all do something like that. But it's okay to burn the Westerosi because they all sided with the Usurper, anyways  Like that horrible guy Ned Stark.
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SpaceMost posted:Why oh why cant the Red Wedding be this season? It's a good thing she was wearing her Depends brand adult diapers then or else she might have soiled herself in revulsion.
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Apr 30, 2012 19:45
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I'm tired of there being eight poop jokes per page. Can't we branch out? Where is our unassailable creativity! Has it died along with Gurm's failure to produce material worth more than just our disdain? 
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Rurik posted:Heck, it would've been better if Viserys had lived. He was a dick with problems but at least he totally would've invaded Westeros.
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my cat is norris posted:I'm tired of there being eight poop jokes per page. Can't we branch out? Where is our unassailable creativity! Has it died along with Gurm's failure to produce material worth more than just our disdain? If you don't pony up and branch out yourself, your words are wind. Useless as nipples on a breastplate. Anyway, now that the principle protagonist of the book/show is Ros the whore, we may actually find out where whores go. It's probably the Westeros equivalent of Detroit.
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