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Factor_VIII posted:Considering his abilities, his invasion of Westeros would have been a complete joke. He'd probably have carelessly thrown his troops in a trap, gotten them massacred and then blmed his commanders for the failure and had them executed, which would have cemented his defeat. Did Viserys know about the Martell pact to marry whatever the hell her name was? He could have been at least a little succesful if he landed in Dorne, gathered their troops, and then tried to make his way north collecting more armies.
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Meltathon posted:Did Viserys know about the Martell pact to marry whatever the hell her name was? He could have been at least a little succesful if he landed in Dorne, gathered their troops, and then tried to make his way north collecting more armies. Probs not because if he did then he would have made his way there from the get go.
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Factor_VIII posted:Considering his abilities, his invasion of Westeros would have been a complete joke. He'd probably have carelessly thrown his troops in a trap, gotten them massacred and then blmed his commanders for the failure and had them executed, which would have cemented his defeat. This still would've been better than what we've gotten so far with Dany. At least Viserys wouldn't
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Apr 30, 2012 21:07
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my cat is norris posted:I'm tired of there being eight poop jokes per page. Can't we branch out? Where is our unassailable creativity! Has it died along with Gurm's failure to produce material worth more than just our disdain? Mayhaps this was a blessing. Had anything happened we would've grown into being Fans.
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Rurik posted:Heck, it would've been better if Viserys had lived. He was a dick with problems but at least he totally would've invaded Westeros. I was actually kind of disappointed with most of Viserys in the show. He didn't come across nearly as totally nuts as I had imagined, and not even that huge a dick. Just going by the show, he's a man who dies horribly because he's depressed and gets drunk at the wrong time. Which, sure, is probably a more grounded version than the nipple-twisting archvillain screaming about WAKING THE DRAGON, DEAR SISTER, but it felt like they dropped too much of him constantly pissing off the Dothraki and it made Drogo an even bigger rear end in a top hat for killing him without much provocation. You're supposed to cheer for Viserys' death because he's an abusive lunatic, yet I felt sorry for him in the show because he didn't deserve it this time. 
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Apr 30, 2012 21:29
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I've gotta disagree there, as Viserys on the show was basically just as I imagined him, just less prominent. He did twist nipples, scream about waking the dragons, etc. on the show, they just showed his other side while he was on-screen instead of in Dany monologues.
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Apr 30, 2012 21:31
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:it made Drogo an even bigger rear end in a top hat for killing him without much provocation. Threats to gut Drogo's queen and murder his unborn son aren't much provocation?
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Apr 30, 2012 21:33
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Besides, Harry Lloyd's brilliant acting just made him too much of a pleasure to watch. YOU WOKE THE DRAGON 
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whowhatwhere posted:I've gotta disagree there, as Viserys on the show was basically just as I imagined him, just less prominent. He did twist nipples, scream about waking the dragons, etc. on the show, they just showed his other side while he was on-screen instead of in Dany monologues. *gives Dany a swirly* e: But yeah, he definitely came across more tragic on the show than he did in the book. Abusive, sure -- but more of a bumbling idiot with a bad temper than a Joffrey. At the very least, he didn't deserve to have his brain boiled by molten gold. unlimited shrimp fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Apr 30, 2012 |
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Apr 30, 2012 21:43
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IRQ posted:If you don't pony up and branch out yourself, your words are wind. Useless as nipples on a breastplate. CHALLENGE ACCEPTED. 
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Apr 30, 2012 22:05
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my cat is norris posted:CHALLENGE ACCEPTED. I FAILED.  At least I used a different medium. vvv For you, I fix. my cat is norris fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Apr 30, 2012 |
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e: ^^^^^ You forgot the blood.SpaceMost posted:Now you've done it. YOU WOKE THE DRAGON! Viserys wasn't Joffrey in the books either. He was someone who had everything taken from him (as opposed to Dany who has never set foot on Westeros proper and never knew the rest of her family); a kid who was incompetently raised to reconquer Westeros by people who didn't give a poo poo about him (because he was just a smokescreen for Aegon) and mocked him behind his back; who knew he wasn't truly capable of doing what he was supposed to do. Thus, he takes it out on the one person he can reach that he can blame anything on (who 'killed' his mother by being born). Dany's memories also have him growing more and more embittered and cruel, as hope after hope is revealed to be a mirage. Doesn't stop him from being an abusive gently caress, but he was never Joffrey. Plus, nobody loving deserves to have their brains boiled by gold 
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Apr 30, 2012 22:48
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They perfected Jaqen this last episode, which is all I really wanted out of this season.
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whowhatwhere posted:Well, I guess he'll have a good, oh, two or three episodes left before disappearing forever. You shut your mouth! Jaqen is Syrio and he will come back and will marry Arya and they will take over Westeros riding on dragons etc, etc.
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my cat is norris posted:I FAILED. If this looked good avatar sized I would so buy it.
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Apr 30, 2012 23:16
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whowhatwhere posted:Well, I guess he'll have a good, oh, two or three episodes left before disappearing forever. They'll have him return for the first episode of season 4 or 5, probably.
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Azure_Horizon posted:They'll have him return for the first episode of season 4 or 5, probably. Doesn't he have a completely different face at that point anyways?
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Apr 30, 2012 23:29
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I'm reading AFFC now and is there anything more pointless than Brienne on a wild goose chase? The reader already knows what's up with Sansa and GRRM wastes chapter after chapter on Brienne heading nowhere and dumb repetition; Brienne asks some random stranger if he saw 'a fool with a pretty maiden' then someone makes a comment about rape, or calls Brienne an ugly wench, and then Brienne wallows in self pity and jerks off thinking about Jaime or Renly or thinks about Catelyn describing how Sansa was a pretty lady who loves lemoncake. This is worse than mindless crap about Dany. When does Catelyn kill Brienne already so I don't need to hear anymore?
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zalmoxes posted:I'm reading AFFC now and is there anything more pointless than Brienne on a wild goose chase? The reader already knows what's up with Sansa and GRRM wastes chapter after chapter on Brienne heading nowhere and dumb repetition; Brienne asks some random stranger if he saw 'a fool with a pretty maiden' then someone makes a comment about rape, or calls Brienne an ugly wench, and then Brienne wallows in self pity and jerks off thinking about Jaime or Renly or thinks about Catelyn describing how Sansa was a pretty lady who loves lemoncake. She doesn't. In classic Gurm style she gets almost-killed but by that point in the series you know that Gurm is full of poo poo when he does that. And nope, that won't happen until the end, and yes, ADWD is even loving worse.
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IRQ posted:She doesn't. In classic Gurm style she gets almost-killed but by that point in the series you know that Gurm is full of poo poo when he does that. And nope, that won't happen until the end, and yes, ADWD is even loving worse. Where do whore-maids of three and ten go and what do they like with their lemoncakes?
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Urdnot Fire posted:Doesn't he have a completely different face at that point anyways? Exactly, so it would be easy for them to do it since they only need the actor for Jaqen's very last scene this season and the one later on. zalmoxes: The point of Brienne's wandering around is to show you a ground-level look at how the common Westerosi is dealing with the War of the Five Kings. In that regard, it works very well.
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Azure_Horizon posted:zalmoxes: The point of Brienne's wandering around is to show you a ground-level look at how the common Westerosi is dealing with the War of the Five Kings. In that regard, it works very well. It would work well if I cared about the common Westerosi and this pointless war, but the book already has a hundred main characters whose plotlines will fizzle out before they do anything remotely interesting. You read 700 pages about a particular character who's trying to get from point A to point B just to tell another character something that would progress the plot and then they get killed. I bet Daenerys ends up dying at the end of book 7 because she gets sweeped off into the ocean by a wave in a storm, and she never gets to Westeros.
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Definitely one of the biggest problems with Feast with Dragons. If GRRM had had given Brienne some other purpose while still hitting the same beats as she travelled around the countryside, it would have been much, much better.
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zalmoxes posted:I bet Daenerys ends up dying at the end of book 7 because she gets sweeped off into the ocean by a wave in a storm, and she never gets to Westeros. Once again, if Gurm had the balls to do this, I would actually love it. Junkenstein posted:Definitely one of the biggest problems with Feast with Dragons. If GRRM had had given Brienne some other purpose while still hitting the same beats as she travelled around the countryside, it would have been much, much better. Hopefully the show can fix this a bit.
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Urdnot Fire posted:Once again, if Gurm had the balls to do this, I would actually love it. The next book starts with Drogon flying away to find some children to eat, and Dany gets immediately murdered to death by a bunch of pissed off Dothraki.
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crazypeltast52 posted:Dany gets swept off the deck in a storm, only to be reborn as Dany Stormborn Stormborn. Because we need more names like that in this series. She, like Victarion, follows both R'hllor and the Drowned God and thus gets magical water and fire poo poo powers.
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From the Gifted Program Thread:Jonny Angel posted:Dany seems like the only person left out for the throne who's any decency or ability to rule, but her arc across the Narrow Sea doesn't seem like it's gonna finish anywhere near soon (I'd be surprised if she made it back to Westeros before the fourth season/book). I Radd McCool posted:What grinds my goat more than anything is when information is poorly disseminated. Lost has filled me with unyielding hate.
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I don't know if it still cool to post amazon reviews, but this was the best. I am convinced it was TDC himself. quote:He broke his fast with boiled neeps, and shivering stew, washed down with a flagon of Dornish ale. The grease from stewed salt pork clung to his gristly beard as he donned a slashed velvet doublet of purple satin, emblazoned with the crest of Ser Eddard Bauer. Over his smallclothes, he wore black pantaloons. He clambered into his Honda and began the short journey west, bearing northwards along the interstate. He turned left, edging his way past opposing traffic. If I look back, I am lost.
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Yes, we saw that, it was already linked. Excellent find, though, we all had a merry guffaw.
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Meltathon posted:Did Viserys know about the Martell pact to marry whatever the hell her name was? He could have been at least a little succesful if he landed in Dorne, gathered their troops, and then tried to make his way north collecting more armies.
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Factor_VIII posted:No he didn't. It would have given him a decent base upon Westeros, but Dorne was the most sparsely populated province so I think it would have simply delayed the inevitable. It still would've worked better than the plan with Quentyn and Dany.
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Urdnot Fire posted:It still would've worked better than the plan with Quentyn and Dany.
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Just watched last nights episode. I am disappointed in Qarth. I thought the women walked around with a tit out. As Tony Danza Clause pointed out before this episode even aired, it is as if HBO said "no thanks, we don't peddle smut"
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Dirk Pitt posted:Just watched last nights episode. I am disappointed in Qarth. I thought the women walked around with a tit out. As Tony Danza Clause pointed out before this episode even aired, it is as if HBO said "no thanks, we don't peddle smut" As someone said in the Mensa Thread for Smart People, it's as if they're saying that boobs are only okay in an explicitly sexual context. In other words, sex is better than nudity in HBO's eyes.
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nuncle jimbo posted:Remember when all the dothraki had they tits out in episode one and people were all DON'T BE A BIG GAY FANTASY RACIST that's dothraki culture in gurmworld not hbo Mayhaps some tits in the episodes, possibly some sex and a touch of hodor dick?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It doesn't need a big budget though, part of the point is that there's only a handful of people involved. Yes, but my point is that the actual sacking of Winterfell in the book had a cast of a couple thousand at the very least. More like two handfuls of people.
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Octy posted:Yes, but my point is that the actual sacking of Winterfell in the book had a cast of a couple thousand at the very least. More like two handfuls of people.
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