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seymore
Jan 9, 2012

Small White Dragon posted:

What the best/most interesting gift you guys have gotten from a client?

No way I am answering that in a public channel.

Happy April 17th guys, hope you can go relax some. I am off to eat, and drink, too much.

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anonexpedient
Feb 23, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post
If I graduated with $20,000 in student debt and paid $800 in interest but was unemployed and had zero income, can I carry forward this deduction? Can I carry forward other deductions?

Googling online doesn't say no -- but I've founds lots and lots of yes to charitable and capital loss deductions.

Admiral101
Feb 20, 2006
RMU: Where using the internet is like living in 1995.

quote:

If I graduated with $20,000 in student debt and paid $800 in interest but was unemployed and had zero income, can I carry forward this deduction?

No.

quote:

Can I carry forward other deductions?

Maybe? As you've already read, it can vary. Stuff like charitable contributions, capital losses, foreign taxes can carry forward. Student Loan interest, mortgage interest, real estate taxes, etc cannot.

Most deductions cannot be carried forward.

anonexpedient
Feb 23, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Admiral101 posted:

No.


Maybe? As you've already read, it can vary. Stuff like charitable contributions, capital losses, foreign taxes can carry forward. Student Loan interest, mortgage interest, real estate taxes, etc cannot.

Most deductions cannot be carried forward.

Thanks.

The only other expenses are job-search related and educational expenses.


gently caress THIS SYSTEM

BirdOfPlay
Feb 19, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I don't even know what I'm supposed to file here.

I have one W-2 and one 1099-MISC. I had a normal job for a couple of months, that's where the W-2 comes from (I know how do deal with that). For most of the year I worked and was paid straight cash for my other job, that's where the 1099-MISC comes from (he lists all his "employees" as Independent Contractors, so no taxes withheld or taken out).

Do I really have to use a 1040? Cause I was just trying that and when I got to Line 21 the instructions said not to list "nonemployee compensation" on that line.

Tricerapowerbottom
Jun 16, 2008

WILL MY PONY RECOGNIZE MY VOICE IN HELL
I'm going to donate part of my insect collection to a certified institution's extension office. They say I can write it off, and I am the one who judges the value of what I'm donating. I did some research and it seems quite a few collectors do this every year around the country, to the average tune of $4,995, just below the amount where you would need to get the donation appraised.

My question is, what's keeping me from saying that what I donate is worth that amount? Or for that matter, any donation of clothing or household items I make to Goodwill? Is there anything standing in my way? How much benefit can I expect to make from the donation?

Admiral101
Feb 20, 2006
RMU: Where using the internet is like living in 1995.

quote:

I don't even know what I'm supposed to file here.

I have one W-2 and one 1099-MISC. I had a normal job for a couple of months, that's where the W-2 comes from (I know how do deal with that). For most of the year I worked and was paid straight cash for my other job, that's where the 1099-MISC comes from (he lists all his "employees" as Independent Contractors, so no taxes withheld or taken out).

Do I really have to use a 1040? Cause I was just trying that and when I got to Line 21 the instructions said not to list "nonemployee compensation" on that line.

You will be reporting it on Schedule C, and then schedule SE. Enjoy your self-employment tax (also, you're late, and are risking late filing penalties at this point if you owe - which you probably will)

quote:

My question is, what's keeping me from saying that what I donate is worth that amount? Or for that matter, any donation of clothing or household items I make to Goodwill? Is there anything standing in my way? How much benefit can I expect to make from the donation?

You will need to file form 8283. You can find more information, such as recordkeeping requirements etc, on http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=123202,00.html

Whether you actually receive much or any benefit from this depends on whether you itemize or not.

BirdOfPlay
Feb 19, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Admiral101 posted:

You will be reporting it on Schedule C, and then schedule SE. Enjoy your self-employment tax (also, you're late, and are risking late filing penalties at this point if you owe - which you probably will)

Yeah, hoping that since 1/4 of my income was handled normally (W-2 and all that) and that since I barely broke into 5 figures last year, it'll all even out. :v:

Thank you, my friend.

Admiral101
Feb 20, 2006
RMU: Where using the internet is like living in 1995.

BirdOfPlay posted:

Yeah, hoping that since 1/4 of my income was handled normally (W-2 and all that) and that since I barely broke into 5 figures last year, it'll all even out. :v:

Thank you, my friend.

You'll still be liable for the flat 13.3% self employment tax on the 1099 income, regardless of how much you made overall. Make sure to deduct whatever expenses you may have had as an "employee" on your schedule C (excluding stuff like lunches). What your employer is doing is illegal.


You also may be eligible for the earned income tax credit, depending on your circumstances.

furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!
Oh look, another thank you video from Jill Ward at Lacerte. Must mean they are about to express their appreciation by jacking up their prices another 15% like last year. Probably someone decided that DMS and Lacerte crashing 5 or 6 times a day for each of my staff is insufficient so they'll make it do that more frequently too.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Back again, if you were trying to find actual tax rules on IRA income is treated in an estate, where would you find them? Would it be online or in a library somewhere in DC?

Does the IRS have a library go to look up this stuff? I live in DC and I do research at the Library of Congress all the time. There should be a book or something to look at somewhere.

Edit: NM, found the actual publication online (559) after doing some digging. It seems to check out what everyone said.

Ardennes fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Apr 19, 2012

seymore
Jan 9, 2012

Super Grub posted:

I'm going to donate part of my insect collection to a certified institution's extension office. They say I can write it off, and I am the one who judges the value of what I'm donating. I did some research and it seems quite a few collectors do this every year around the country, to the average tune of $4,995, just below the amount where you would need to get the donation appraised.

My question is, what's keeping me from saying that what I donate is worth that amount? Or for that matter, any donation of clothing or household items I make to Goodwill? Is there anything standing in my way? How much benefit can I expect to make from the donation?

If your are audited, the IRS will ask that you prove your donation's fair market value. If you cannot do so to their satisfaction then you obviously run the risk of having the deduction denied which will in turn result in additional tax, penalties and interest being assessed.

How much you benefit from the deduction basically depends upon what your tax rate is. Figure out your tax rate, multiply that rate times the value of the deduction. The result is your tax benefit.

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

Ardennes posted:

It seems to check out what everyone said.

Don't know why you wouldn't implicitly trust an anonymous internet message board. Would seem to be trustworthy.

slap me silly
Nov 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer
Dude, why aren't you still drunk.

its all nice on rice
Nov 12, 2006

Sweet, Salty Goodness.



Buglord
Payment question:
I owe this year and chose to go the multiple payment route. I put in all my bank info and requested payment dates. My return was accepted. Now TurboTax is telling me I need to mail the IRS a 1040-V and a check.
Why am I being told to mail the IRS a check when I gave them my payment info already?

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

When states charge penalties for not filing/paying on time, the penalty is a percentage of what's owed, right?

So what do they do if you didn't owe anything but don't file on time?

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted
I'm in a weird situation and can't figure out what to do.

I'm currently claimed as a dependent by my parents. I am getting married this July, however, and recognize that I need to reflect that status in my taxes. My fiancee and I will both be full-time students working part-time for the school and are both under 24.

I will still be being carried by my parents on their healthcare plan, however, and plan to for the next three years and I'm wondering if that has any impact on how taxes work.

In case it matters, my parents live in Kentucky, her's in Ohio, and we will be living in Ohio.


So, will we be safe filing MFJ or is there some special thing we need to consider?

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

NancyPants posted:

When states charge penalties for not filing/paying on time, the penalty is a percentage of what's owed, right?

So what do they do if you didn't owe anything but don't file on time?
Here's the wording for CT: "If you do not file your return and DRS files a return for you, the penalty for failure to file is 10% of the balance due or $50, whichever is greater. "

But it also sounds like the $50 is at their discretion, and you can also request to get the penalty waived.

seymore
Jan 9, 2012

N. Senada posted:

I'm in a weird situation and can't figure out what to do.

I'm currently claimed as a dependent by my parents. I am getting married this July, however, and recognize that I need to reflect that status in my taxes. My fiancee and I will both be full-time students working part-time for the school and are both under 24.

I will still be being carried by my parents on their healthcare plan, however, and plan to for the next three years and I'm wondering if that has any impact on how taxes work.

In case it matters, my parents live in Kentucky, her's in Ohio, and we will be living in Ohio.


So, will we be safe filing MFJ or is there some special thing we need to consider?

Assuming that the two of you are providing the majority of your own support then you will file MFJ. Medical insurance coverage in and of itself does not affect filing status with the IRS.

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted
Alright, too cool. Thanks so much!

Unstable Pants
Sep 1, 2004

OH GOD, THEY'RE GOING CRITICAL! RUN!
I'm a US/Canadian dual citizen working in Canada, and have been for the past few years.

I haven't filed my US taxes for the past few years because I was under the mistaken impression that filing wasn't immediately necessary if I made under the foreign earned income exclusion limit. I'm working to fix that now.

However, we've run into a bit of a problem. We just finished up the 1040 forms for the last few years, and just discovered that we also have to file another form, 8891, for my RRSPs to defer the tax on those.

Here's the question. Everything I've been reading about 8891 indicates that it can only be filed on an on-time return. Obviously, a few years aren't going to be on time. What can I do to properly defer the taxes?

Also, I have a couple pension accounts from multiple companies/unions. What do I need to do to claim those?

Finally, I earned some Canadian government grants in a couple years. Does this need to go under wages or somewhere else?




Sorry to anyone who works there, but the IRS is a bastion of government ineptitude. Everything makes sense to them, but no one else. I'm borderline ready to renounce my US citizenship just so I don't have to deal with this bullshit anymore.

entris
Oct 22, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Not to whiteknight the IRS, but it's actually one of the best government agencies in terms of its service, transparency, and efficiency.

You need to get an accountant who has experience handling cross-border tax issues.

Renouncing your citizenship to escape US taxation is not easy and has all sorts of rules and conditions.

Mandalay
Mar 16, 2007

WoW Forums Refugee
Do Canadians need to file if they're in the US earning US income? I did my gf's US taxes (she's Canadian but lives in Los Angeles) and never bothered to check :ohdear:

Unstable Pants
Sep 1, 2004

OH GOD, THEY'RE GOING CRITICAL! RUN!
We're going to try to talk to an accountant here who has experience dealing with US tax returns to get some answers in the next few days.

We were a bit frustrated trying to slog through the poo poo ourselves, but now that I've calmed down a bit, it shouldn't be too bad. We weren't exactly too keen on having to pay huge amounts of money to file a $0 return, but should be able to get an accountant to answer our questions for a reasonable price so we can do it ourselves.

Yeah, the IRS is one of the better government services. Which is very sad.


At least Canadian taxes are fairly straightforward. We managed to get through all of it in less than an hour, with no outside help. US taxes, on the other hand, we worked on for over six hours and we still can't work through them.


Mandalay
That apparently depends on if she intends to return to Canada in the near future. If she can still be considered a resident of Canada, then she needs to file. Here is the CRA page with more information on that.

My wife lived with me in the US for a couple years, and we initially didn't intend to return to Canada. She didn't have to file for the year she was completely out of the country with no residential ties or Canadian income. She DID have to file a form that stated that she had severed her residential ties to Canada, though.

Yuriki
Mar 27, 2004

Who the hell do you think I am?
I filed my taxes and just received a dollar refund from my state, I am very certain I didn't overpay, any way to find out what its about?

catman
Jul 23, 2006

Xerin posted:

I filed my taxes and just received a dollar refund from my state, I am very certain I didn't overpay, any way to find out what its about?

You call your state's department of revenue and ask. Depending on the state hold times might not be too bad. I probably would pass on caring about $1...

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice
So my company had my taxes right on the old payroll, they didn't take any which is right for SD state income tax. We switched yet again to a new payroll and now they took IL income tax. Is there anything they can do on their end so I don't have to gently caress with filing with IL to get back the one pay period's tax? Last time I had to do this took almost a full year to get the money.

squidtarts
May 26, 2005

I think women are intimidated by me because I have mean cartoon eyebrows.
I got married last fall and just got a new job. I had to fill out my W4 form and because my husband makes a lot more than I do and I followed the steps on the form to calculate how much to withhold from each check, I ended up with something like only $44 deducted per pay period. That seems really low and I'm worried about getting screwed when it's time to file our 2012 taxes. My husband hasn't re-filed his form and is still withholding at the single rate. Would it be a good idea for me to do the same, just to be safe?

We're totally fine with having more withheld and getting a refund later so that we don't have to deal with the problems of not withholding enough.

Hufflepuff or bust!
Jan 28, 2005

I should have known better.

squidtarts posted:

I got married last fall and just got a new job. I had to fill out my W4 form and because my husband makes a lot more than I do and I followed the steps on the form to calculate how much to withhold from each check, I ended up with something like only $44 deducted per pay period. That seems really low and I'm worried about getting screwed when it's time to file our 2012 taxes. My husband hasn't re-filed his form and is still withholding at the single rate. Would it be a good idea for me to do the same, just to be safe?

We're totally fine with having more withheld and getting a refund later so that we don't have to deal with the problems of not withholding enough.

There are a variety of calculators that should tell you what your husband and your combined tax liability would be for the year. As long as his withholding + your withholding * number of paychecks = your liability, more or less, you'll be fine. Better to avoid having a huge refund at the end of the year so you can do more useful things with that money (like, say, having it). It doesn't matter whose paycheck it comes out of...he could withhold enough for both of you, and you could have nothing withheld and you'd be fine.

seymore
Jan 9, 2012

flyboi posted:

So my company had my taxes right on the old payroll, they didn't take any which is right for SD state income tax. We switched yet again to a new payroll and now they took IL income tax. Is there anything they can do on their end so I don't have to gently caress with filing with IL to get back the one pay period's tax? Last time I had to do this took almost a full year to get the money.

How much are you talking about ? Probably the fastest thing to do is file an IL return and get your refund.

Actie
Jun 7, 2005
I'm a relatively new part of the workforce. Just started my second-ever full-time job, and selected 1 federal tax allowance and 0 for state/city. Is it at all problematic that I'm claiming the same number of allowances across the board?

(At my previous job, somehow I also claimed 1 for state and city, but as I filled out the paperwork for the new job I couldn't for the life of me figure out why I was claiming that allowance. This is NYC, btw.)

squidtarts
May 26, 2005

I think women are intimidated by me because I have mean cartoon eyebrows.

kaishek posted:

There are a variety of calculators that should tell you what your husband and your combined tax liability would be for the year. As long as his withholding + your withholding * number of paychecks = your liability, more or less, you'll be fine. Better to avoid having a huge refund at the end of the year so you can do more useful things with that money (like, say, having it). It doesn't matter whose paycheck it comes out of...he could withhold enough for both of you, and you could have nothing withheld and you'd be fine.

Considering that we got back about $3,500 between the two of us for 2011, and I'm making about 60% of what I made last year (because of months of unemployment), we should probably be safe if only he withholds at the single rate, then. I'll have the $44 per paycheck taken out just to cover the bases.

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

seymore posted:

How much are you talking about ? Probably the fastest thing to do is file an IL return and get your refund.

He might live in one state and work at home for a company based in another. We have a few clients like that here between CA/OR and they owe big to their home state and get a huge refund from the other.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

I think he wants one wrongly done paycheck for this year to be fixed before tax filing time. I don't think that is possible.

seymore
Jan 9, 2012

Actie posted:

I'm a relatively new part of the workforce. Just started my second-ever full-time job, and selected 1 federal tax allowance and 0 for state/city. Is it at all problematic that I'm claiming the same number of allowances across the board?

(At my previous job, somehow I also claimed 1 for state and city, but as I filled out the paperwork for the new job I couldn't for the life of me figure out why I was claiming that allowance. This is NYC, btw.)

It should not, generally, be a problem.

Chef Bromden
Jun 4, 2009
I have a surprising amount of tax problems for someone who made so little money.
After last year's debacle I decided to go to H&R Block to get my taxes done. It was an absolute nightmare. the tax preparer I was scheduled to meet with called twenty minutes after our appointment was scheduled to start, to say she couldn't make it so they stuck me with someone else who only had about thirty minutes to help me.

I live in NY but worked in NJ, so I expected I would have to pay NYS something but that I would also have a NJ and Federal refund to offset that. That proved to be the case, and I owed NY 1400 or so dollars. The H&R block rep was very specific that I would only have to pay the difference, and that he had set it up so that my NJ and Federal Refunds would be used to offset whatever I owed NY. I had him repeat this, but he was very clear that I would not receive a check from NJ or the Federal, and that I only owed 1400-NJ-Federal. I just received two checks in the mail from NJ and the IRS. Should I just cash them and cut a second check to NYS IRS in that amount?

I am very confused and I don't want to owe anymore and I hate this tax system and I don't understand why this thread is the only place I can get sensible advice about taxes. I want to take it to the guy that has done my parents' taxes for the past 25 years, but apparently my father isn't speaking to him right now, so you goons are my only hope unless any goons happen to work in the Westchester, NY area want to help me out (yes I will pay you).

Oh, and can any goons who have worked for H&R Block explain what the "Compliance fee" is? I asked on H&R's facebook page and they gave the most evasive, kind of snarky answers possible.

Chef Bromden fucked around with this message at 05:29 on May 2, 2012

seymore
Jan 9, 2012

Chef Bromden posted:


I live in NY but worked in NJ, so I expected I would have to pay NYS something but that I would also have a NJ and Federal refund to offset that. That proved to be the case, and I owed NY 1400 or so dollars. The H&R block rep was very specific that I would only have to pay the difference, and that he had set it up so that my NJ and Federal Refunds would be used to offset whatever I owed NY. I had him repeat this, but he was very clear that I would not receive a check from NJ or the Federal, and that I only owed 1400-NJ-Federal. I just received two checks in the mail from NJ and the IRS. Should I just cash them and cut a second check to NYS IRS in that amount?


Each entity, state and federal, is stand alone in regards to your need to either pay them, or get refunds from them. So yes, given what you have told us you need to deposit your checks, and write a seperate check to NY. Assuming of course that those amounts are correct.

Maybe we should form a SA income tax firm.

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

seymore posted:

Each entity, state and federal, is stand alone in regards to your need to either pay them, or get refunds from them. So yes, given what you have told us you need to deposit your checks, and write a seperate check to NY. Assuming of course that those amounts are correct.

Maybe we should form a SA income tax firm.

You're late in payment, so you'll get penalized. You should pay the taxes/penalties in full and then write a letter asking for a waiver of the late payment penalty due to your reliance on a paid professional that gave erroneous advice.

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

AbbiTheDog posted:

You're late in payment, so you'll get penalized. You should pay the taxes/penalties in full and then write a letter asking for a waiver of the late payment penalty due to your reliance on a paid professional that gave erroneous advice.

I'm always amazed that the IRS hasn't yet bludgeoned H&R Block and their ilk into bankruptcy with Circular 230 penalties.

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furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!

ThirdPartyView posted:

I'm always amazed that the IRS hasn't yet bludgeoned H&R Block and their ilk into bankruptcy with Circular 230 penalties.

Well until recently Block wasn't really subject to Circular 230 for the most part since the vast majority of their employees aren't CPA's, EA's, or attorneys.

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