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...I think I'm done. I've been enjoying the comic, but I just can't stand to see all the comments telling the character she's a piece of poo poo when she's at her lowest. Who even does that? Too depressing to read.  edit: No ill will, Kazerad. I just... I guess I'm a bit of a chump when it comes to characters like this. Bobulus fucked around with this message at 07:53 on May 2, 2012 |
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Well, at least there's nowhere to go but up, right? Bobulus posted:...I think I'm done. I've been enjoying the comic, but I just can't stand to see all the comments telling the character she's a piece of poo poo when she's at her lowest. Who even does that? Roger Explosion fucked around with this message at 07:59 on May 2, 2012 |
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Prequel, Or Making The Audience Feel Bad About Making A Catgirl Cry: The Adventure
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^^^ - dammit, I didn't see the cork in it, there goes my theory. Still, there's going to be different consequences in this town at least. Well poo poo. As hopeless an idea as it is, the stuff is still all in Sigrid's place, so it's not literally impossible to get it back from there assuming Sigrid hasn't sorted or stuffed it away any better than the rest of the crap she's taken from people who don't know how to fight against alchemical coercion properly. Assuming that bottle is empty or diluted beyond even Katia's intoxication capacity, the biggest change about this iteration cycle might be that this is the first time Katia is incapable of getting blackout drunk after feeling like it's the end of her world. That's.. not going to be remotely fun, but the potential for disrupting the cycle is there. Of course, now that I say this the next comic is going to be her finding it unopened and chugging the whole thing first chance she gets.
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Roger Explosion posted:Considering that the username of the person suggesting all of that was "Self-Loathing," I don't think it's because he/she/it is genuinely a bastard; just aware of their role in this comic's narrative. Yeah, I just noticed that. Now I wonder if that's a particularly rear end in a top hat user, or Kaz joining in on the commenting format. 
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Bobulus posted:Yeah, I just noticed that. Now I wonder if that's a particularly rear end in a top hat user, or Kaz joining in on the commenting format. It's an actual guy. He manages to remain remarkably thematic.
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Kazerad posted:It's an actual guy. He manages to remain remarkably thematic. Well, then, gently caress that guy.
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Kazerad posted:It's an actual guy. He manages to remain remarkably thematic. And thematically appropriate, given what you've told us about the character's own personality.
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Oh man this was a good update, it basically made my day. I don't think you'll be able to top this one, kazerad.
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I'm tempted to sign up and make a psychotic gimmick account purely for loving with the comic.
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I'm impressed with how heartwrenching this story can get. Just when you think Katia's hit rock bottom, she digs a little deeper. That's Katia's character development right there: she's becoming more and more assured that's she completely worthless.Roger Explosion posted:A bottle came out of the trash can. A bottle with a cork still in it. A bottle that still probably contains liquid or a particular variety.
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Pollyanna posted:I'm tempted to sign up and make a psychotic gimmick account purely for loving with the comic. Eggie posted:Maybe that bottle is full of some buff potion that Katia can use to break into Sigrid's place and take all her stuff back. Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Roger Explosion fucked around with this message at 09:11 on May 2, 2012 |
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I could not be happier with the resolution of this arc. Oh wait, i can read the user comments, so yes i can.yeah posted:gently caress you web comic maker. You’re a loving gay rear end in a top hat. It’s an ADVENTURE, you ADVENTURE and get BETTER/FASTER/STRONGER/HARDER not LOSE EVERYTHING WE’VE WORKED FOR IN A SINGLE INSTANT. gently caress YOU KAZERAD posted:gently caress off and die in a fire I was so sure it'd end with the vampire smelling the blood and coming back and kissing away the bleeding again, but this is much better.
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Roger Explosion posted:A bottle came out of the trash can. A bottle with a cork still in it. A bottle that still probably contains liquid or a particular variety. I do hope it's empty and/or it's not an alcoholic beverage, because there's chance and then there's contrived.  Still, the rage-filled replies are pretty entertaining.
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Tempted to make an account on the MSPA forums named Confidence and try to get this wet cat back on her
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Still, there's going to be different consequences in this town at least. I dunno, I reckon she could make it back whilst wasted.
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MikeJF posted:I dunno, I reckon she could make it back whilst wasted. ...and run into Gro-Upp or other bad guys without protection? Though it would be interesting if somehow her competency at fighting were higher while blitzed.
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:...and run into Gro-Upp or other bad guys without protection? I was going to say that Katia has nothing for Gro-Upp to steal and he does not seem to be a fan of the Kvatch Mage's Guild and thus may be a potential ally, but that would require Katia to talk about the Kvatch Mage's Guild 
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Taking all bets on who she wakes up with this time. My money's on the clannfear. Alternatively this is the lowpoint where she joins that cult outside the city, since her cult predilection is sort of a Chekov's gun. I mean it could start innocently enough, maybe the guy camping outside has a spare robe she could borrow. Don't think avoiding drink by joining a cult constitutes forward progress (unless it's AA), but that fits Kaz's circle-talkin'.
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:...and run into Gro-Upp or other bad guys without protection? You mean again?
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MikeJF posted:You mean again? Last time she met Gro-Upp while blitzed he was in town; I highly doubt he's really interested in picking up girls while working his 9-5, especially one he's robbed before who doesn't have anything worth taking this time. Plus that would mean taking away the whole 'waking up in bed with some strange person/creature inexplicably' part of the cycle. Other bandits/monsters may just not be receptive to her advances. Also it seems just plain simpler to remain in the town where she gets blitzed rather than go on a four-hour trek back to Quill-Weave's house. e: Also also, she doesn't really know her way back to Anvil and I doubt she's better at reading signs while blackout drunk. Ignatius M. Meen fucked around with this message at 15:55 on May 2, 2012 |
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So I'm just going to throw these out there. Stephane isn't a guild member. He also isn't obviously charmed by Sigrid, and it's difficult to say whether or not he's actually her friend. Friendly, yes, but loyalty might be non withstanding. I doubt he'd steal all of Katia's things back, but he might be able to swing getting Sigrid to part with a letter that has absolutely no monetary value whatsoever. Also, I'm genuinely curious what business NAH has with Sigrid. Definitely didn't seem too thrilled about the ordeal. Especially considering her bone to pick with alchemy. But hey who knows maybe NAH will recognize the cloak, and indulge in a bit of heroism before Sigrid horribly murders her. In the end, it shouldn't be too hard to re-pen Quill-Weave's letter. I mean the guy poorly wrote out some pretty awful insults before spitting into it. Wouldn't be surprised if all Katia had to do to claim the mission a success is to find a blank sheet a paper, spit into it, and hand that over. Although the question arises if that's something Katia would do. I don't know, I'm just rambling off some ideas.
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Dolash posted:Taking all bets on who she wakes up with this time. My money's on the clannfear. My bet? Nobody. She wakes up in a little cave or a ditch outside of town, all by herself, and does not appear to have otherwise disgraced herself. Forward progress! ...But just as she starts to think that, she realizes she can't find her amulet, and from a distance, Kvatch is looking a little more burned to the ground than usual...
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Were the animations for Katia's feet hitting the ground and for her epic round-the-corner swing reused from when she was escaping the roadside ruin? Or were they re-drawn? Either way, it's a neat visual storytelling tactic - she's been in this same situation before. She tried something new, things looked up, then came barreling back down again, and those animations are callbacks to the idea. Goes well with the whole "circle-story" thing Kaz went on about earlier.
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I think I finally figured out what Prequel reminded me of (apologies if someone's made this comparison already) - it reads a little like an Oblivion E/N post. Katia's got an internet's worth of people screaming advice into her ear yet she only ever manages to take the bad advice and things continue to get improbably worse for her. Complete with events circling back to the original problem and a new wave of exasperated readers throwing up their hands and saying "She can't be helped, I'm off this crazy train!"
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For a long time now, I've felt that despair was an under-explored emotional theme in fiction. When it is handled correctly, it makes that glimmer of hope at the end the tunnel so much more compelling. But man, this is getting pretty bleak. I'm expecting that, once Katia finally discovers how to fight back against the cycle of self defeat, the resolution is going to be very satisfying as she punches that cycle right in its metaphorical face. But I have no idea how she's going to get there from here, which has left me hooked on reading this thing even more.
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Dolash posted:I think I finally figured out what Prequel reminded me of (apologies if someone's made this comparison already) - it reads a little like an Oblivion E/N post. Katia's got an internet's worth of people screaming advice into her ear yet she only ever manages to take the bad advice and things continue to get improbably worse for her. Complete with events circling back to the original problem and a new wave of exasperated readers throwing up their hands and saying "She can't be helped, I'm off this crazy train!" So at what point does Abe step in?
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MOD CHALLENGE: Katia, for creating a lovely, pointless E/N thread, you now have to escape from prison, find the emperor's heir, and defeat the demonic forces threatening to overrun the world. Either that or take a photo of yourself re-enacting the bathtub scene in The Big Lebowski in which you play the part of the ferret. You have twenty-four hours to do this. If you don't do either of those things before the deadline you'll be probated. If anyone succeeds in doing either of those things before you do, they'll get to choose your punishment.
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Gabriel Pope posted:So at what point does Abe step in? Isn't it obvious? With all of the mod challenges, Abe can only be one person. Sheogorath. (I would have shopped something but his clothes are sufficiently generic that it wouldn't be immediately obvious who it is.) Ursine Catastrophe fucked around with this message at 22:38 on May 2, 2012 |
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I'm trying to figure out if Katia could kill herself successfully or if she would gently caress it up and become some sort of half-alive monstrosity.
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Katia is going to drink that bottle up, gently caress the Mythic Dawn guy outside and help burn Kvatch to the ground.
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Why is everyone thinking that she's going to burn Kvatch to the ground? Kvatch catches fire when the Oblivion Gate opens up outside and daedra pour out, and it's still in the process of burning down and being destroyed when the player character arrives. Unless I missed something. Honestly the plot of Oblivion is kind of a dull blur.
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At a certain point I realized that this comic is successful because Kazerad manages to get so many people emotionally invested in a character that they know will do something depressing.
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Dr Snofeld posted:Why is everyone thinking that she's going to burn Kvatch to the ground? Kvatch catches fire when the Oblivion Gate opens up outside and daedra pour out, and it's still in the process of burning down and being destroyed when the player character arrives. Unless I missed something. Honestly the plot of Oblivion is kind of a dull blur. I don't. I figured she would blame herself for Kvatch burning to the ground — but if the chronology of the game screws that up, then never mind.
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I noticed this little comic linked from that webcast interview with Kaz, and I felt it deserves to be linked here again: linked for size
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