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unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

IRQ posted:

Needs more Snoop Dogg Direwolff dancing on his sword.
Uh! I'm a nice crow, with some nice dreams
See these ice walls, see these ice keeps?
Ineligible bachelor, land of frost and snow
That's whiter than what's spilling down your throat

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syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
Rollin' down the Kingsroad sippin' on ale and eels
Laid back
With my mind on my dragons and my dragons on my mind

empty sea
Jul 17, 2011

gonna saddle my seahorse and float out to the sunset

Ambiguatron posted:

Not if it's set in the future when she's queen or she uses her faceless man powers to magic herself into adulthood.

Sometimes, I hate myself.

Great now, I got curious and looked at some of the fic descriptions. Oh, well, that's a disturbing amount of kink...why are there so many modern day AUs...hold up.

"Set in a zombie AU, where Ned is known to be dead at best, a zombie at worst"

:black101:

spixxor
Feb 4, 2009
Just finished DWD. I'm finding it hard to give much of a gently caress about any of the new characters, and everyone I do care about is dying.

I guess if he kills off Dany and Tyrion I can just stop reading. Also where is Rickon, I can't loving remember.

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

spixxor posted:

Just finished DWD. I'm finding it hard to give much of a gently caress about any of the new characters, and everyone I do care about is dying.

I guess if he kills off Dany and Tyrion I can just stop reading. Also where is Rickon, I can't loving remember.

Rickon's in cannibal land. And you're actually reading for Dany? Even after ADWD?

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back
I assume she figures that Dany's story is the real story and when it actually gets anywhere the plot will have moved, but otherwise I'm at a loss.

empty sea
Jul 17, 2011

gonna saddle my seahorse and float out to the sunset
I was actually unreasonably happy to see Rickon for all of 30 seconds. And even better, he's smashing things! Excellent foreshadowing on a character that no one remembers and eventually wanders off into nowhere, HBO! No, really. Rickon and Shaggydog hold so many of my hopes for an OHSHIT scene in books GRRM will never, ever write.

In the meantime, all my glee goes to ~~~My Gendry~~~

My favorite fucker in GoT? Lancel. It's his ridiculous loving hair and his stupid weasel face. I just can't get over how perfectly he matches my imagination.

empty sea fucked around with this message at 05:28 on May 2, 2012

spixxor
Feb 4, 2009
Not so much Dany as the dragons. I'm a huge dork for dragons and I still hold out hope that they'll eventually get around to wrecking poo poo instead of eating random people.

A girl can dream, dammit.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

spixxor posted:

A girl can dream, dammit.

Just not of spring.

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back
Right, all you fanartists out there can just burn your paintings, shred your hard drives and smash your tablets as the greatest piece of fanart was just discovered on the ASOIAF wiki:

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

But.. the perspective.. it's..

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

hailthefish posted:

But.. the perspective.. it's..

there's nothing wrong with the perspective, her right hand is only so far forward because her right arm is actually as long as her entire body. Grayscale does that kind of poo poo.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Davos isn't fingering his finger-bones. Fanart ruined :colbert:

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

whowhatwhere posted:

Right, all you fanartists out there can just burn your paintings, shred your hard drives and smash your tablets as the greatest piece of fanart was just discovered on the ASOIAF wiki:


Look how drunk he is.
That's not appropriate for children.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
Greyscale gives you giant Disney cartoon hands.

Also, gently caress HBO forever for cutting Shireen and Poolboy or whatever his name is.

His predictions are way more accurate than Quaithe, Melisandre, Mirri, Maggie, and the Reeds combined.

I know I know.

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20
It's probably some asinine bullshit, like they think people will confuse Patchface with that lobster from "The Little Mermaid" because of the under the sea lines, the way they think their viewers are so profoundly broken as human beings that they will confuse "The Others" with the "The Others", that is, mistake the seven foot tall ice zombies from a magic fantasy world for the vague assholes on some show about vague rear end in a top hat poo poo and plane crashes. As I recall, they also feared the viewers would confuse Asha and Osha even though they're completely different characters, the names aren't pronounced the same, and the two never interact in any way and the only way to make that mistake is to be a heinous moron who has no understanding of context and can only process what's going on right on the screen at any given time while picking nits of his mate's hair.

Thulsa Doom fucked around with this message at 15:06 on May 2, 2012

crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



Sebastien is a crab dude. Otherwise everything is true.

Maytag
Nov 4, 2006

it's enough that it all be filled with that majestic sadness that is the pleasure of tragedy.

Ambiguatron posted:

a heinous moron who has no understand of context and can only process what's going on right on the screen at any given time while picking nits of his mate's hair.

So the majority of the television audience and about a quarter of the book readers.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Ambiguatron posted:

RAGE

When I was taking a scriptwriting course in college, I was told point-blank that naming characters similarly is a very, very bad move. Not only will you accidentally typo the wrong person into a scene, but absolutely guaranteed you will hear angry things from people who were completely confused somehow that the wildling girl hanging out with the crippled boy in the snowy place is somehow also hanging out in viking land and was that ugly guy's sister the whole time.

And yet, Ed, Edd, and Eddy was a successful cartoon for a number of years. So maybe the problem is adults are generally too goddamn stupid.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
How can the fat drunk king who was killed by a pig also be a little frail child who is breastfeeding at 10 years old?

This is too complicated. :saddowns:

I'm gonna go back to watching that stupid rear end in a top hat airplane show about polar bears and smoke monsters for assholes.

Maytag
Nov 4, 2006

it's enough that it all be filled with that majestic sadness that is the pleasure of tragedy.
The Wheel of Time thread is having this discussion right now too but so far nobody's said "smoke monsters for assholes."

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

Arya will have to be Dog of the Canals in case we confuse her with her mother.

Edit: No, then we'll wonder why her face isn't half burned. She'll have to be Fox of the Canals.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


How can Sean Bean's mentor be also his kid?! HBO, what's wrong with you?!

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

How did that little crippled boy build all those ships or whatever the gently caress 500 years ago?!

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW

ZearothK posted:

How can Sean Bean's mentor be also his kid?! HBO, what's wrong with you?!

The family tree is a wreath!

thornghost
Oct 11, 2010

I have a picture of me with GRRM. He looks less than enthused.

Dany? I thought they killed her off last season by pouring molten gold on her head!

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

thornghost posted:

Dany? I thought they killed her off last season by pouring molten gold on her head!

No, she's been having an illicit relationship with Vic Mackey.

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

How did that little crippled boy build all those ships or whatever the gently caress 500 years ago?!

Warging is one hell of a drug.

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

When I was taking a scriptwriting course in college, I was told point-blank that naming characters similarly is a very, very bad move. Not only will you accidentally typo the wrong person into a scene, but absolutely guaranteed you will hear angry things from people who were completely confused somehow that the wildling girl hanging out with the crippled boy in the snowy place is somehow also hanging out in viking land and was that ugly guy's sister the whole time.

And yet, Ed, Edd, and Eddy was a successful cartoon for a number of years. So maybe the problem is adults are generally too goddamn stupid.

The most important thing to take from any class, text, or other instructional material regarding writing is that rules were made to be broken, and suggestions were made to be ignored.

Also, last I checked, everyone can remember the name of a whore with a combined ten minutes of screen time, whose name was mentioned once, last year, in passing.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
What do people mean when they say Eddard Stark was a man of Hodor? They're always going on about he did the just thing and was very Hodorable.

What does being fair and just and respected have to do with glistening wetly?

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back

hailthefish posted:

But.. the perspective.. it's..

Perfect. See, Patchface inhabits his own reality, under the sea. Under the sea, the things above look distorted (I know, I know, etc etc). That's why the perspective shifts suddenly when Shireen's hand pierces the Haters Gonna Hate bubble.

It's totally a valid artistic decision and not a really lovely fanfic
:goonsay:

crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



Get out of here with your crackpot theories:

quote:

I have a crackpot theory that Sandor Clegane and The Mountain are actually brothers. I'm trying to ferret out the proof in the text....and it's been a slow and arduous process (Hooked-On-Phonics says I'm at a 6th grade reading level)...but I think I'm gradually finding the link.

Granted, I'm not an expert like y'all when it comes to "logic" or "making connections" or "thinking rationally" but I think I finally have stumbled onto the biggest linkage in the entire series. Please, before you shout me out...all I ask is that you read my theories. I've done weeks of research on this...I've even sent my results off to MIT (which I can only assume they're processing as we speak) and I have been sober for at least 14% of the time.

1)I know it sounds crazy..but I think there's evidence to back this up. Like for example, I noticed they both had very similar last names: Clegane. It got me thinking for several hours...why would they have such similar last names??? Who has similar last names? Well the first thing I thought was...married people. And then I spent a couple days ruminating on whether they were married or not. But I didn't think gay marriage had come to Westeros yet...so I went back to my chalk board, and put on my thinking cap and pondered some more over my elaborate multi-tiered equations. And then I thought, "Hey wait, fathers generally have similar last names to their sons!" And that seemed like a surefire truth. But then I thought the Hound was a virgin...because he hits on little girls...so he couldn't be the father. So I went into my basement...and starting mixing various chemicals in my Chemistry set.....and when the mixture turned blue, I thought "Eureka!" What if they were brothers! That would explain why the Hound kept talking about killing his brother!! I just thought he meant Ned Stark the whole time, because they seemed so similar. Ned Stark was the hand and Sandor Clegane had hands.

2) Both Gregor and Sandor have kidnapped Arya at various times in the book. Now, why would characters kidnap that hellbitch if they didn't share similar DNA?

3) But then I thought, George RR Martin is very subtle. Like I realizd that maybe Mya Stone was King Robert's daughter even though her last name wasn't Robert. So I figured if he wanted us to figure this out, he'd hide it within their names. Check this out. Gregor is an anagram of Gorger. Sandor is an anagram of Radons. Coincidence? Well, sure, possibly...but if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat, it's probably a cat.

4) Both enjoy long walks by the beach, evenings with friends, and disembowling children.

5) And last but not least, Pg. 544 ASOS U.S. Edition.
It wasn't the first time he [Sandor] had talked of killing the Mountain. "But he's your brother," Arya said dubiously.

Now I admit, this one confused me. Why would Arya think a mountain was Sandor's brother? Are they both some form of geological formation? I haven't ruled that out either. And how do you kill a mountain? I mean I guess you could punch it really hard..but I don't know if that will work. I hate mountains too. All big and rocky..and high. Maybe I'll kill one once I get done with this thread.

I forget what my point was, but I did have one. And it was a whopper!

Feel free to try to rip apart my logic all you like. You'll feel pretty dumb when those results come back from MIT.

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/5513-crackpot-theory-gregor-clegane-and-sandor-clegane-are-brothers/page__hl__sandor%20gregor

tl;dr: what if the Mountain and the Hound were brothers?!

Thulsa Doom
Jun 20, 2011

Ezekiel 23:20

crazypeltast52 posted:

Get out of here with your crackpot theories:


http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/5513-crackpot-theory-gregor-clegane-and-sandor-clegane-are-brothers/page__hl__sandor%20gregor

tl;dr: what if the Mountain and the Hound were brothers?!

Pfft, next people will be claiming that Jon is Rhaegar's son and Brienne is Azor Ahai reborn.

Bhaal
Jul 13, 2001
I ain't going down alone
Dr. Infant, MD

Ambiguatron posted:

:words:
Judging by the Smarty Man threads and Otaku Assemble, they have a fair point about making everything super clear cut. If the tviv threads somehow miraculously had 0 book readers involved at all and just let people completely new to the show manage the threads and attempt to politely steer the very confused back to reality, it would have taken a lot longer for the general body of watchers to figure out what's going on in the show beyond just "ARMOR PORN! BEARD PORN! PORN PORN! :black101:".

It's a lot harder to get confused like that in a book, especially with the levels of repetition GURM is capable of. In time-constrained TV Land it might only be explicitly stated once that minor character X has relationship R to character Y, any other hints to that you'd have to glean from context. Hell for many characters they only get named maybe once and their role/station needs to be done in the background of a couple scenes and that's it.

Plus with books you have to focus a bit more anyway. When I first watched The Departed it was about 15 minutes into the movie that I finally realized Leonardo DiCaprio and Matt Damon were two different people. They're never in the same scene and to me they basically look alike (yeah I know I suck), so for a while I was really confused because I thought the movie had some weird double-double-double crossing going on where the guy was a mob plant in the police force, but was actually working under cover inside the mob, but was actually brought up by the mob and was loyal to them. On a re-watch it of course all made sense, I just wasn't paying much attention the first time.

In other words TV and movies make us stupid.

Bhaal fucked around with this message at 16:42 on May 2, 2012

Maytag
Nov 4, 2006

it's enough that it all be filled with that majestic sadness that is the pleasure of tragedy.

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

No, she's been having an illicit relationship with Vic Mackey.

It's Dutch Boy who strangles the old tom that Arya chases right? Just to see what it feels like?

Ambiguatron posted:

Also, last I checked, everyone can remember the name of a whore with a combined ten minutes of screen time, whose name was mentioned once, last year, in passing.

They can't remember a name if there aren't visible tits while it's being said.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Ambiguatron posted:

The most important thing to take from any class, text, or other instructional material regarding writing is that rules were made to be broken, and suggestions were made to be ignored.

Well, yes, it is true the good artists know when to bend and break rules. It's probably not recommended to include a scene where a little girl has sex with multiple little boys in the sewers, but Stephen King is a master of his craft and he made That Scene work, goddamn it.

I think the real answer, though, is that Robert Baratheon and Robert Arryn are simply addressed differently beyond the mere context of their existances and you have to be a particular idiot to get confused in the book, let alone the loving series where one is clearly a pre-pubescent child. I can understand being concerned North American audiences might get Asha and Osha confused, given how those same audiences react generally towards media in British English to begin with, but some of the changes are really silly and speak to a total lack of faith in the audience.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
They only changed his name to Robin for the bird sigil puns that Littlefinger is going to drop all over the place in season 4

geeves
Sep 16, 2004

whowhatwhere posted:

Right, all you fanartists out there can just burn your paintings, shred your hard drives and smash your tablets as the greatest piece of fanart was just discovered on the ASOIAF wiki:



I always visioned Patchface as Dan Akroyd in blackface from Trading Places.

The Slippery Nipple
Mar 27, 2010
~~~*~**The King in the North **~*~~~

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IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Nice feathered mullet there, Rob. Poor Grey Wind's body must be loving ashamed.

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