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Turkeybone
Dec 9, 2006

:chef: :eng99:
This is kind of tangential, but what are y'all's favorite calorie tracking sites?

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taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


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Turkeybone posted:

This is kind of tangential, but what are y'all's favorite calorie tracking sites?

I use cronometer.com because it is really simple and no frills, but still has support for recipes.

Trap Star
Jul 21, 2010

What's a good site for estimating how many calories are being burned based on a given activity? Also, if a site says I burn X amount of calories in an hour based on a weight that is lower than mine, will I have burned more or less calories than it indicates?

e: this is probably also better suited for W&W, i'll repost there if nobody cares to reply.

Trap Star fucked around with this message at 18:47 on May 2, 2012

Another Dirty Dish
Oct 8, 2009

:argh:
I use https://myfitnesspal.com for tracking calories. It works pretty well, though you should really check all the values for yourself, but it tends to underestimate how much protein you should be eating (you can change your target values of carbs/fats/proteins by clicking on Goals and then Change Goals).
Estimating how many calories are being burned during activity is probably a waste of time, but check with The W&W Diet/Exercise thread for more info.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
This is all relevant to my next question.

Got my oven replaced today (:woop: ) and I wanna bake a Weight Watchers-friendly cake. I've seen the old box-of-cake-mix-and-diet-soda trick, but there's GOTTA be a better WAY!

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
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scuz posted:

This is all relevant to my next question.

Got my oven replaced today (:woop: ) and I wanna bake a Weight Watchers-friendly cake. I've seen the old box-of-cake-mix-and-diet-soda trick, but there's GOTTA be a better WAY!

Is that a cake that adheres to the Weight-watchers guidelines, or a cake that Weight-watchers want to be friends with?

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

Scientastic posted:

Is that a cake that adheres to the Weight-watchers guidelines, or a cake that Weight-watchers want to be friends with?
Sadly, the former :smith:

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Scientastic posted:

a cake that Weight-watchers want to be friends with?

A cynical rear end in a top hat could make the case that this is every cake.

Hawkperson
Jun 20, 2003

Re: bacon, if you want to be REALLY spergy you can measure the amount of fat left in the pan and from there calculate the calories left in the pan.

For what it's worth I tried to include bacon in a restricted calorie diet and found that even though I wasn't eating all that fat, bacon is still too calorically dense to keep me happy until lunch time. Yes, fat digests slower but it's still a paltry 18g for 160 calories (a meal's worth of fat for my diet - less than one ounce). Off the top of my head, you could eat about a pound of broccoli for the same calorie cost. Maybe instead of eating bacon for breakfast, use it sparingly to accentuate other food. Like now I totally want broccoli with bacon.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
If it's just that salty savouryness that you want at breakfast, have vegemite on toast.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Mr. Wiggles posted:

If it's just that salty savouryness that you want at breakfast, have vegemite on toast.

Sounded like they wanted the specific "You're full!" digestive marker that dietary fat triggers.

Cyril Sneer
Aug 8, 2004

Life would be simple in the forest except for Cyril Sneer. And his life would be simple except for The Raccoons.
I have some leftovers that I want to use up so I was thinking of making the following leftovers "pizza": a piece of naan bread covered with spinach, red onion slices, sun-dried tomatoes and sprinkled with cheese. Bake until cheese melts.

Would this just be stupid?

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

Cyril Sneer posted:

I have some leftovers that I want to use up so I was thinking of making the following leftovers "pizza": a piece of naan bread covered with spinach, red onion slices, sun-dried tomatoes and sprinkled with cheese. Bake until cheese melts.

Would this just be stupid?
Nope! :)

Trap Star
Jul 21, 2010

Mr. Wiggles posted:

If it's just that salty savouryness that you want at breakfast, have vegemite on toast.

I tried vegemite once in eighth grade and my god was that awful. I'm open to suggestions for alternative breakfasts, but I love bacon very much and it's hard to imagine just eliminating it completely. Bacon and eggs have been my staple for a few weeks now, though I do despise washing dishes later, as well as straining and disposing of the grease

Charmmi
Dec 8, 2008

:trophystare:
I know eating habits are deeply ingrained and all but there's no reason not to eat a variety of food for first-meal. If you insist on a meat and egg breakfast how about a ham and cheese omelet or steak and poached egg. If you're feeling fancy, make egg on a cloud with ham cheese and whole wheat toast.

Don't forget about oatmeal and greek yogurt, which are both quick, easy, and versatile. You can always find ways to add proteins in your later meals.

Trillian
Sep 14, 2003

Trap Star posted:

\/ thanks! \/ (it's more like 6 slices, 3 eggs and a tomato with a glass of orange juice and coffee)

That's a shitload of fat, and W&W is going to yell at you about OJ at a minimum. Definitely go hit them up.

mich
Feb 28, 2003
I may be racist but I'm the good kind of racist! You better put down those chopsticks, you HITLER!
Without the grease it's more like a 500-600 calorie breakfast which is fine if the rest of the day's meals are lighter but for most people that is not the case. I am not one to vilify bacon, a couple slices would not be bad, but six slices every day, really?

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Trillian posted:

That's a shitload of fat, and W&W is going to yell at you about OJ at a minimum. Definitely go hit them up.

What's the downside to orange juice?

pnumoman
Sep 26, 2008

I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.

Splizwarf posted:

What's the downside to orange juice?

Too much sugar.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Trap Star posted:

Bacon and eggs have been my staple for a few weeks now, though I do despise washing dishes later, as well as straining and disposing of the grease

Seriously, consider a lower fat source of protein like back bacon (canadian) and cut down your egg consumption to 2 or even 1. Make up for the remainder with oatmeal, whole grain english muffins, cereal.

Trillian
Sep 14, 2003

pnumoman posted:

Too much sugar.

And if you want to be full, eating fruit is way better calorie value than drinking it.

Trap Star
Jul 21, 2010

GrAviTy84 posted:

Seriously, consider a lower fat source of protein like back bacon (canadian) and cut down your egg consumption to 2 or even 1. Make up for the remainder with oatmeal, whole grain english muffins, cereal.

Not sure whether to continue this conversation here or in W&W now, but for the time being...

I had assumed that eggs are good for you, and eating a bunch of them wouldn't be a bad thing (even thought about eating raw eggs for the protein in the morning). As an aside, I couldn't stomach eggs until a few years ago and since I'm fairly new to the kitchen all I know how to make with eggs are scrambled.

I assume kashi cereal in greek yogourt with raspberries and blueberries would be a better breakfast?

I don't usually have much time for lunch but am trying to get on a more regular schedule of eating a meal every 3-4 hours.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Trap Star posted:

Not sure whether to continue this conversation here or in W&W now, but for the time being...

I had assumed that eggs are good for you, and eating a bunch of them wouldn't be a bad thing (even thought about eating raw eggs for the protein in the morning). As an aside, I couldn't stomach eggs until a few years ago and since I'm fairly new to the kitchen all I know how to make with eggs are scrambled.

I assume kashi cereal in greek yogourt with raspberries and blueberries would be a better breakfast?

I don't usually have much time for lunch but am trying to get on a more regular schedule of eating a meal every 3-4 hours.

Eggs are good for you, in moderation. 3 is a lot to eat every morning, especially if you're frying them.

Cereal and yogurt with 1-2 scrambled eggs and 2 slices of bacon is a perfectly fine and balanced breakfast.

Turkeybone
Dec 9, 2006

:chef: :eng99:

Cyril Sneer posted:

I have some leftovers that I want to use up so I was thinking of making the following leftovers "pizza": a piece of naan bread covered with spinach, red onion slices, sun-dried tomatoes and sprinkled with cheese. Bake until cheese melts.

Would this just be stupid?

Yes this would be awesome and a great way to use leftovers.

Trap Star
Jul 21, 2010

Another staple of my diet and probably my favourite food are tacos, with a handful of lettuce, some tomato and cheese, and the salsa from the taco kit. Is this also an awful choice in regards to nutrition? I have a feeling switching from beef to chicken tacos would at least be a better choice, but it's still a lot of tortilla.

Thanks again for all the advice, oh knowledgeable goons.

Drimble Wedge
Mar 10, 2008

Self-contained

scuz posted:

This is all relevant to my next question.

Got my oven replaced today (:woop: ) and I wanna bake a Weight Watchers-friendly cake. I've seen the old box-of-cake-mix-and-diet-soda trick, but there's GOTTA be a better WAY!

There are a few cake/sweets recipes here: http://www.goonswithspoons.com/Category:Healthy

RazorBunny
May 23, 2007

Sometimes I feel like this.

It sounds a little weird, but cooked spinach with a smidge of butter or light oil and some fresh garlic is an amazing addition to breakfast - has a lot of good stuff in it, and will help you feel full. I also like to cook my spinach with nothing but a bit of apple cider vinegar, but my family tells me the vinegar taste is a little overpowering for them.

If you can scramble eggs, it's just a hop, skip and a jump to omelettes. You can add a lot of nutrition and bulk to breakfast if you play around with omelette ingredients. Mushrooms, spinach as mentioned, tomato, or even black beans, which have lots of fiber in them and will definitely make you feel full.

Plus these things are all yummy.

Trap Star
Jul 21, 2010

Indeed, I've really got to learn to make an omelette already. Maybe an experiment for tomorrow morning.

mich
Feb 28, 2003
I may be racist but I'm the good kind of racist! You better put down those chopsticks, you HITLER!

Trap Star posted:

Another staple of my diet and probably my favourite food are tacos, with a handful of lettuce, some tomato and cheese, and the salsa from the taco kit. Is this also an awful choice in regards to nutrition? I have a feeling switching from beef to chicken tacos would at least be a better choice, but it's still a lot of tortilla.

Thanks again for all the advice, oh knowledgeable goons.

"Taco kit" already raises flags. Those fried tortilla shells (that's what I usually see in kits, I guess there are soft ones too but those are still very calorie dense) are not very good for you. It sounds like in general you need to bulk your diet with more vegetables. Just a bit of lettuce and tomato in that meal makes up a very small portion of food so you are then filling up on mainly taco shells and beef which is pretty calorie dense as well.

A taco night isn't even really that bad but if you are looking to lose weight it all adds up. You can easily retain the flavors you enjoy from your taco meals but make it better by using good spices instead of a packet of spices and adding more vegetables. You can either do it a really obvious way like turn your taco into a taco salad and really increase the amount of lettuce you eat in the meal, plus you can add a few other vegetables like some sliced radish or bell peppers. You can then either skip the taco shells altogether or just eat one. Or you can still eat tacos as you do normally but eat fewer of them and make a side of some sort of vegetables like some sauteed chayote, broccoli, etc.

Trap Star
Jul 21, 2010

mich posted:

"Taco kit" already raises flags. Those fried tortilla shells (that's what I usually see in kits, I guess there are soft ones too but those are still very calorie dense) are not very good for you. It sounds like in general you need to bulk your diet with more vegetables. Just a bit of lettuce and tomato in that meal makes up a very small portion of food so you are then filling up on mainly taco shells and beef which is pretty calorie dense as well.

A taco night isn't even really that bad but if you are looking to lose weight it all adds up. You can easily retain the flavors you enjoy from your taco meals but make it better by using good spices instead of a packet of spices and adding more vegetables. You can either do it a really obvious way like turn your taco into a taco salad and really increase the amount of lettuce you eat in the meal, plus you can add a few other vegetables like some sliced radish or bell peppers. You can then either skip the taco shells altogether or just eat one. Or you can still eat tacos as you do normally but eat fewer of them and make a side of some sort of vegetables like some sauteed chayote, broccoli, etc.

I just made a rather large effort post in the W&W questions thread if you want to reply there, but for now:

Yeah, it's the soft shell tacos I always eat, and it's 500 grams of beef divided into 12 tacos, typically using up a head of lettuce and 1-2 tomatoes within those 12 tacos. As mentioned in the other thread, I'm 6'0 and 180lbs, which is probably a pretty reasonable weight. I essentially have two goals, to lose the gut I developed from eating so much fast food and sitting on my rear end and also to gain some muscle, so I figure as I lose weight in my stomach I'll be gaining it back in my arms/shoulders etc.

I'll absolutely be eating more salads, and try to learn to cook something a little more diverse than tacos from a kit. I presumed the included spices aren't a big deal, and probably better than anything I could prepare myself. I usually have 3 tacos for supper, maybe 3 more before bed, and another two meals consisting of 3 tacos the next day.

This is starting to sound ridiculous as I type it, I think i'll go browse the cheap meals thread

Terrormisu
Mar 28, 2007

Will you sign my copy?

Scientastic posted:

Is that a cake that adheres to the Weight-watchers guidelines, or a cake that Weight-watchers want to be friends with?

I have used recipes off this site http://www.skinnytaste.com/search/label/Baked%20Breads%20and%20Cakes before and enjoyed them. She puts WW points and nutritional info with every recipe, plus you can search by point amount. Maybe you could find something good in there?

Happy Abobo
Jun 21, 2007

Looks tastier, anyway.
You're not eating all 12 tacos, are you? 500 grams of beef for a single serving is pretty high. Unless I'm gorging or eating out, I usually limit servings of meat to around 3oz.

Trap Star
Jul 21, 2010

Happy Abobo posted:

You're not eating all 12 tacos, are you? 500 grams of beef for a single serving is pretty high. Unless I'm gorging or eating out, I usually limit servings of meat to around 3oz.

I split it into about four meals of three tacos a piece, and try to divide the beef evenly. I also eat roughly a head of lettuce within those 12, 1-2 tomatoes and a bunch of cheese.

blowingupcasinos
Feb 21, 2006
I have a 12" lodge cast iron, a huge nonstick skillet my mom bought, a random nonstick saucepan, and a cheap 5qt pot from the nearby grocery story.

I am kind of sick of it.

It's not that I'm not happy with the stuff (food) I make with my stuff (pots & pans). It's the second stuff I'm unhappy with. Silly, right? But! I have extra money and gently caress spending it on useful things like drugs and booze.

I came across this seriouseats article a while ago that pretty much sold me on this Walmart-only Tramontina set.

http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/08/equipment-the-all-clad-vs-tramontina-skillet.html

I want to buy it but a) it's Walmart and b) I don't really know where to start looking for anything else.

edit: Thanks you down there

blowingupcasinos fucked around with this message at 01:07 on May 3, 2012

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

blowingupcasinos posted:

I have a 12" lodge cast iron, a huge nonstick skillet my mom bought, a random nonstick saucepan, and a cheap 5qt pot from the nearby grocery story.

I am kind of sick of it.

It's not that I'm not happy with the stuff (food) I make with my stuff (pots & pans). It's the second stuff I'm unhappy with. Silly, right? But! I have extra money and gently caress spending it on useful things like drugs and booze.

I came across this seriouseats article a while ago that pretty much sold me on this Walmart-only Tramontina set.

http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/08/equipment-the-all-clad-vs-tramontina-skillet.html

I want to buy it but a) it's Walmart and b) I don't really know where to start looking for anything else.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3381440&pagenumber=41#post403225711

tarepanda
Mar 26, 2011

Living the Dream
Raw eggs give you LESS protein than cooked eggs.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Iron chef CSA box: I've got a shitload of green onions. What can I do with them? Soup?

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Ron Jeremy posted:

Iron chef CSA box: I've got a shitload of green onions. What can I do with them? Soup?

Grill them whole and shove them down your gullet after dipping them in romesco sauce. Chase with copious amounts of wine.

Make Asian foods, finish every dish with some, minced. (I seriously go through about 3 bunches of green onions a week :v:)

In omelettes in place of chives, minced fine.

On baked potatoes.

In a soup. Try cauliflower, potato, bacon, cheddar, and green onions.

Put them in a salsa.

Stir fry a shitton of them with some pork mince and a good scoop of hot bean sauce. Serve over rice.

pork never goes bad
May 16, 2008

Happy Abobo posted:

You're not eating all 12 tacos, are you? 500 grams of beef for a single serving is pretty high. Unless I'm gorging or eating out, I usually limit servings of meat to around 3oz.

I try to make sure the smallest serving of red meat I have is 8 ounces, and to make sure I have at least 2 servings per day.

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Jul 24, 2007

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GrAviTy84 posted:

Grill them whole and shove them down your gullet after dipping them in romesco sauce. Chase with copious amounts of wine.


I think you've just given me nightmarish heartburn posting this suggestion.

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