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Quarterroys
Jul 1, 2008

I'm headed to Nashville for the weekend- any recommendations on breweries or brewpubs to check out? I'm getting married in the city this fall, and would love to pick up a keg of a great local beer to have on tap at the wedding.

I'll be with my fiancee and mom, neither of whom are huge beer geeks so its a plus if the place has some good eats.

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Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Paul Proteus posted:

Oh that reminds me; not to prove you wrong but to point out that they do use bourbon as the primary (if not only) barrel in Abacus. 2011 abacus was heavy on the coconut *edit* and was in 20-year-old Heaven’s Hill Bourbon Barrels.

http://www.beerpulse.com/2011/03/firestone-walker-abacus-hits-retail-in-a-couple-weeks/

Description from 2012 Abacus off FW's page

"Big boozy bourbon and American oak aromas combined with soft chocolate malty undertones. Complex malt flavors framed in oak, with hints of dark chocolate, vanilla, tobacco, coconut and just a touch of dark cherry. This is definitely a sipping beer, best served in a brandy snifter. This ale pairs well with dark chocolate and sturdy cheeses."

Well you have me there. 2012 is different though, it's only aged for 11 months in the barrel so I'm assuming they changed it. I have a 2011 and a 2012 I'll do a side-by-side comparison soon enough.

Midorka fucked around with this message at 17:04 on May 4, 2012

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Midorka posted:

Well you have me there. 2012 is different though, it's only aged for 11 months in the barrel so I'm assuming they changed it. I have a 2011 and a 2012 I'll do a side-by-side comparison soon enough.

I drank a 2012 and I got a ton of (well-balanced) bourbon. Which is awesome.

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...
I've done Abacus/Sucaba 2011/2012 side by sides and they are pretty goddamn close to the same beer, the differences are very very minor.
The beer is not aged exclusively in a particular bourbon producers barrels, but many types barrels which includes (well used) wine and brandy barrels and then it is blended. Most of their barrels are bourbon barrels though.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
Now that I think of it, I need to go pick up the last few Firestone 2011 Abacus, 2011 Parabola, and 14 this hole in the wall shop has. I'm blown away with how good they all are, Firestone knows their poo poo. I'm definitely going to try smoking a cigar for the next 2011 Parabola I have, that's for sure. Depending on how many of each I find left I may be up for a trade if anyone was looking for them.

lazerwolf
Dec 22, 2009

Orange and Black

Midorka posted:

Now that I think of it, I need to go pick up the last few Firestone 2011 Abacus, 2011 Parabola, and 14 this hole in the wall shop has. I'm blown away with how good they all are, Firestone knows their poo poo. I'm definitely going to try smoking a cigar for the next 2011 Parabola I have, that's for sure. Depending on how many of each I find left I may be up for a trade if anyone was looking for them.

Let me in on your secret shop! I'm still sitting on a bottle of both Abacus '11 and Parabola '11

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Midorka posted:


Many might disagree, but Firestone Walker's Abacus (Sucaba)

What is the difference between these two? I've been sitting on a bottle of Abacus for a while, I can only assume Sucuba is related, but how?

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Phanatic posted:

What is the difference between these two? I've been sitting on a bottle of Abacus for a while, I can only assume Sucuba is related, but how?

Same stuff, new name. I don't know why, but this year they changed it.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

lazerwolf posted:

Let me in on your secret shop! I'm still sitting on a bottle of both Abacus '11 and Parabola '11

I concur: buy that stuff! I never had 14 in a bottle, only on tap. Have one 2011 Parabola left from last year, no Abacus... Sigh.

lazerwolf
Dec 22, 2009

Orange and Black

Phanatic posted:

What is the difference between these two? I've been sitting on a bottle of Abacus for a while, I can only assume Sucuba is related, but how?

FW got a cease and desist from a winery that also uses Abacus as their brand name. So they got clever and reversed the name.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Phanatic posted:

What is the difference between these two? I've been sitting on a bottle of Abacus for a while, I can only assume Sucuba is related, but how?

Firestone was sent a cease and desist letter because of a prestigious wine of the same name so they changed it to Abacus backwards.

lazerwolf posted:

Let me in on your secret shop! I'm still sitting on a bottle of both Abacus '11 and Parabola '11

If you're in New Jersey it's called Roger Wilco in Deptford, I was there 3 months ago and 2011 Abacus, 2011 Parabola, and 14 were still there. There were about 3-4 bottles of each. I don't know their trade value or anything but really I wouldn't mind a small trade of something equally as good, I would really like Surly Darkness for Parabola or Abacus or 14 if that would be considered fair. I'll go back this week and see if it's there still.

Edit: I think I'm going to find that beer called Yeastie Boys or something I saw in the store once in memory of MCA.

Midorka fucked around with this message at 19:16 on May 4, 2012

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Midorka posted:


Edit: I think I'm going to find that beer called Yeastie Boys or something I saw in the store once in memory of MCA.

Dear lord no. Just get a 40 of Olde English, drink down to the top of the label, top off with orange juice. Then put your left leg down, your right leg up, tilt your head back and finish the cup.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Terrapin Phlux Capacitor and DFH Urkontinent just came off the truck and are coming home with me :cheers:

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW

Midorka posted:

Edit: I think I'm going to find that beer called Yeastie Boys or something I saw in the store once in memory of MCA.

Holy poo poo MCA died.

gently caress.

ChiTownEddie
Mar 26, 2010

Awesome beer, no pants.
Join the Legion.
Wow, I am at Jolly Pumpkin right now. This place is amazing, how did I not know of a brewery that specializes in sours? Thank you so much for the recommendation!
Drinking Oro de Calabaza right now, I think the wheatgrass IPA might be next.

Downside...im going to buy too many bottles :-)

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


ChiTownEddie posted:

Wow, I am at Jolly Pumpkin right now. This place is amazing, how did I not know of a brewery that specializes in sours? Thank you so much for the recommendation!
Drinking Oro de Calabaza right now, I think the wheatgrass IPA might be next.

Downside...im going to buy too many bottles :-)

Get a pizza.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


ChiTownEddie posted:

Wow, I am at Jolly Pumpkin right now. This place is amazing, how did I not know of a brewery that specializes in sours? Thank you so much for the recommendation!
Drinking Oro de Calabaza right now, I think the wheatgrass IPA might be next.

Downside...im going to buy too many bottles :-)

I'm going to advise you to skip all the North Peak beers as they are kinda lovely. Also if it's not too late, get the Fire and Smoke pizza.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

ChiTownEddie posted:

Wow, I am at Jolly Pumpkin right now. This place is amazing, how did I not know of a brewery that specializes in sours? Thank you so much for the recommendation!
Drinking Oro de Calabaza right now, I think the wheatgrass IPA might be next.

Downside...im going to buy too many bottles :-)

Get a pitcher of Biere De Mars and stick your face in it and motorboat, for me.

wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???
I need another SDSU/Michigan game for a great excuse to get back to A2. Fun little town ya got there.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
Abita Strawberry Harvest is pretty decent. Smells very strongly of strawberry pulp, not strawberry syrup. From there it's a pretty standard wheat with hints of strawberry interlaced, then finishes with a nice burst of strawberries. Never too sweet, just like their Purple Haze, but this is much cleaner and more enjoyable.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.
I went to the Founders's event in San Diego intended to get as many different beers as I could and not be shithoused, but I ended up just getting three glasses of KBS - - Was delicious, and I was suprised how well it worked given how much I have disliked other barrel aged stouts. I did get Double Trouble and Dirty Bastard yesterday and was a fan of both.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Phanatic posted:

Dear lord no. Just get a 40 of Olde English, drink down to the top of the label, top off with orange juice. Then put your left leg down, your right leg up, tilt your head back and finish the cup.

Hahaha great response.

Arnold of Soissons posted:

Holy poo poo MCA died.

gently caress.

Yeah, sad poo poo.

I finally found a Sam Adams Perfect Pint glass, $4.99. I'm actually really excited to use it. I'll be drinking Goose Island's Honkers Ale since it just came to New Jersey.

Edit: I really like Honkers Ale, very easy drinking a good flavor for such low ABV.

Edit 2: I just opened a Harvistoun Ola Dubh 18 year from February 2009. I think there's some oxidation, but this is pretty good. Mild sweetness of chocolate and mild roasted flavors, but the oak and scotch flavors come forward. I think the flavor I'm trying to pick out is peat, it's very similar to what I taste when I drink Johnny Walker Gold Label.

Midorka fucked around with this message at 04:20 on May 5, 2012

lazerwolf
Dec 22, 2009

Orange and Black
I love iron hill. Such a good brew pub/restaurant. If you're ever in the philly /new jersey area there are a bunch of locations. I had their saison with some Brett and their #100 which has like 900 lbs of malt and 100 lbs of Centennial hops. Both really solid, their regular lineup is decent but their seasonals are awesome

VVV yeah maple shade

lazerwolf fucked around with this message at 04:42 on May 5, 2012

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

lazerwolf posted:

I love iron hill. Such a good brew pub/restaurant. If you're ever in the philly /new jersey area there are a bunch of locations. I had their saison with some Brett and their #100 which has like 900 lbs of malt and 100 lbs of Centennial hops

Which location? I go to the Maple Shade one once a month for homebrew meetings and have found their Rising Sun (IPA with Sorachi hops) and Quadfather to be really lacking. I haven't had anything I was huge on. I also had their Pig Iron Porter which was alright. Tomorrow is Big Brew Day there, I want to go but I have work. Oh well.

Midorka fucked around with this message at 04:43 on May 5, 2012

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer
I opened a bomber of Big Muddy Brewing's Kinkaid Wheat, brewed in Southern Illinois. I bought it because it was $2.99 and I see why it was on the bottom shelf, on sale. It is a very unremarkable wheat beer. Not much in the way of aroma, maybe a watery malt, and the taste is nothing to write home about. I can't really recommend it, but I will try a different style by the brewer and see if the watered down taste is a fluke with the wheat or what. At least it tastes better than Bud Light!

I also have a couple bottles of Victory Headwater Pale Ale in the fridge, a few New Glarus Hop Hearty ale, a six pack of Moose Drool, a bomber of Coney Island Sword Swallower, and a bomber of Lakefront Brewery Bridge Burner. I have a fun weekend in store.

Midorka posted:

They were selling growlers in store?

Sorry, I am wrong, the correct term is bomber after a quick Google search and re-reading the OP. My mistake.

americanzero4128 fucked around with this message at 04:56 on May 5, 2012

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

americanzero4128 posted:

I opened a growler of Big Muddy Brewing's Kinkaid Wheat, brewed in Southern Illinois. I bought it because it was $2.99 and I see why it was on the bottom shelf, on sale. It is a very unremarkable wheat beer. Not much in the way of aroma, maybe a watery malt, and the taste is nothing to write home about. I can't really recommend it, but I will try a different style by the brewer and see if the watered down taste is a fluke with the wheat or what. At least it tastes better than Bud Light!

They were selling growlers in store?

Edit: Lazerwolf, since you're close enough to Iron Hill in Maple Shade, make the trip to Roger Wilco in Deptford and get some of the 2011 Abacus/Parabola and a Firestone 14, as well as Blackout Stout. Also go to the Timber Creek Discount Liquors near there it's got some great stuff.

Edit 2: I'm not a fan of Curieux from Allagash, I don't see any benefit from the barrel aging here and this is too citrus forward for me. I'm pairing it with a 6 year old cheddar though and it goes well with it and I like the fruity esters at the end, I would have guessed this was wine barrel aged if anything as I'm not picking up any bourbon. I really feel that this is just missing a mark for me really liking it.

Midorka fucked around with this message at 05:38 on May 5, 2012

dumptruckzzz
Sep 13, 2010

Arnold of Soissons posted:

Holy poo poo MCA died.

gently caress.

Pour one out.

Into a glass though we're not drainpourers around here.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

dumptruckzzz posted:

Pour one out.

Into a glass though we're not drainpourers around here.

I'm known as one, kind of. I'm also only posting this before someone else does.

Also before this becomes another discussion, just forget about it.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
I think MCA would approve of pouring them all out, being a Buddhist and all.

Kraven Moorhed
Jan 5, 2006

So wrong, yet so right.

Soiled Meat
So I'm pretty sure a 12 of Torpedo is one of the best (relatively) cheap beer purchases I've made. I've been abstaining from Sierra Nevada for some time based on a few bad experiences, but trying Ruthless Rye and my recent run-in with Bigfoot made me reconsider. Anything else by them I should be looking out for?

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

Kraven Moorhed posted:

So I'm pretty sure a 12 of Torpedo is one of the best (relatively) cheap beer purchases I've made. I've been abstaining from Sierra Nevada for some time based on a few bad experiences, but trying Ruthless Rye and my recent run-in with Bigfoot made me reconsider. Anything else by them I should be looking out for?

Hoptimum, all of the Ovila belgian styles, celebration are all top notch.

wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???

Angry Grimace posted:

I went to the Founders's event in San Diego intended to get as many different beers as I could and not be shithoused, but I ended up just getting three glasses of KBS - - Was delicious, and I was suprised how well it worked given how much I have disliked other barrel aged stouts. I did get Double Trouble and Dirty Bastard yesterday and was a fan of both.

I know it's sad but I didn't want to go to that thing by myself at what I figured would be a packed bar full of groups of people. I'm fine with going to a more relaxed place solo but totally pussed out on KBS for fear of feeling like a loner on what I'm sure was a very social evening.

I justified it by "choking down" some Pure Hoppiness at home and confirming what I thought I remembered about the one other time I had it...I really don't like it. I'm okay with many one-hop beers, or beers that tend to let one hop dominate the others, but it's such a cascade blast (which comes through frighteningly well) that it tastes like hop extract tea more than beer. I last had PH about a year ago, and my notes reference tasting artificial flavors and a harsh mint-like mouthfeel. At least my palate's remained consistent.

dumptruckzzz
Sep 13, 2010

Kraven Moorhed posted:

So I'm pretty sure a 12 of Torpedo is one of the best (relatively) cheap beer purchases I've made. I've been abstaining from Sierra Nevada for some time based on a few bad experiences, but trying Ruthless Rye and my recent run-in with Bigfoot made me reconsider. Anything else by them I should be looking out for?

What bad experiences have you had? Really the only SN beers I don't like are Kellerweis and Summerfest, the rest I'd gladly drink. And those two I'd drink above a lot of other stuff.

I just bought a 6 pack of Torpedo from March 30th, it looks like they've changed their labels quite a bit. Two labels with UPC on back now and date is printed on the neck instead of above the barcode, threw me off when I was checking for a date.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

rage-saq posted:

Hoptimum, all of the Ovila belgian styles, celebration are all top notch.

I'm having a hard time thinking of anything from Sierra I've ever had that sucked. Granted I've never had their "limited" (but still easy as hell to get) releases like the 30th Anniversary bombers but all their year round beers and seasonals are great.

Kraven Moorhed
Jan 5, 2006

So wrong, yet so right.

Soiled Meat

dumptruckzzz posted:

What bad experiences have you had? Really the only SN beers I don't like are Kellerweis and Summerfest, the rest I'd gladly drink. And those two I'd drink above a lot of other stuff.

I had a Pale at a local bar that tasted pretty odd a few years ago, their Brown which I wasn't a huge fan of, and (funny you should mention that) a Summerfest that a buddy had in his fridge for some time. Knowing what I do now about that bar, they probably hadn't cleaned their taps in quite some time. Or ever, really, as it's a bit of a shithole. As for the brown, no idea. Might have to see if that redeems itself on another tasting, as my palate has changed a lot. I know I absolutely hated Expedition Stout the first time I had it, and now I'm a huge fan.

CalvinDooglas
Dec 5, 2002

Watch For Fleeing Immigrants
Sierra Nevada is solid across the board. All of their regular offerings are top-tier examples. Their stout is one of my favorite non-imperial stouts. Kellerweis is a great wheat, too.

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW
Kellerweise is great, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Docjowles posted:

I'm having a hard time thinking of anything from Sierra I've ever had that sucked. Granted I've never had their "limited" (but still easy as hell to get) releases like the 30th Anniversary bombers but all their year round beers and seasonals are great.

The 30th Grand Cru I found in a store fridge kept, it was deliciously complex. I hope I can get another still.

lazerwolf
Dec 22, 2009

Orange and Black
The 30th SN black barleywine was one of the best beers I've had in the last year. Roasty, Hoppy, some caramel sweetness, simply amazing. I haven't given Sierra Nevada as much love as other breweries but all their stuff is solid.

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Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

wattershed posted:

I know it's sad but I didn't want to go to that thing by myself at what I figured would be a packed bar full of groups of people. I'm fine with going to a more relaxed place solo but totally pussed out on KBS for fear of feeling like a loner on what I'm sure was a very social evening.

I justified it by "choking down" some Pure Hoppiness at home and confirming what I thought I remembered about the one other time I had it...I really don't like it. I'm okay with many one-hop beers, or beers that tend to let one hop dominate the others, but it's such a cascade blast (which comes through frighteningly well) that it tastes like hop extract tea more than beer. I last had PH about a year ago, and my notes reference tasting artificial flavors and a harsh mint-like mouthfeel. At least my palate's remained consistent.
I'll grant you that not everyone can just go to Hamilton's at 3 pm on a Friday, but when I went there it was not crowded at all. In fact, I would say I felt a little awkward going to a bar at 3 pm and waiting outside 5 minutes before it opened when nobody else was doing that. It did fill up to a reasonable level pretty quick though, nothing nuts to butts or anything, at least not until after I left at 4 or so.

I would really like Hamiltons if they would a) remove the shuffleboard and pool tables and b) knock out the cafe next door. The problem is that the bar is always super crowded at night time to the point that there's barely anywhere to stand. It's even more annoying since I think the kitchen service at Hamilton's is a lot better than the Toronado, but you never actually get anything since you never have a table or spot at the bar.

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