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If a shop is stupid enough to do work on a bike that 50% of it's value without a deposit, they deserve to be burned and probably shouldn't be in business for themselves.. or even be able to use a fork without supervision. To carte-blanche refuse a bike just because over XX years old is stupid... as your 3 year old stretched GSXR600 even shows.
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slidebite posted:If a shop is stupid enough to do work on a bike that 50% of it's value without a deposit, they deserve to be burned and probably shouldn't be in business for themselves.. or even be able to use a fork without supervision. Pretty much this. You can have a 3 or 4 year old bike that has been treated like poo poo and has all those issues as well. And with the quality of 90% of the bikes I see up for sale, that's true more often than not. It's whatever, though. Guy on 2SW gave me names/numbers for three different vintage repair shops in PDX.
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May 5, 2012 04:33
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iwentdoodie posted:I really can't see tires and a chain turning into a 1000+ repair. That argument makes no sense. There's nothing more to doing it on an old bike versus a new one. For this, no. I was addressing their likely reasoning behind the policy overall. slidebite posted:To carte-blanche refuse a bike just because over XX years old is stupid... as your 3 year old stretched GSXR600 even shows. At no point did I say the "cutoff year" logic was sound when you moved it over to bikes. I was going to say as much but then figured it was self-evident for this audience. It is their attempt to try to avoid quagmires and keep their staff focused on quick turnaround, predictable, repeatable, high margin units of work. How many times have I read accounts in these pages of people with more aptitude than any shop mechanic will ever have being dumbfounded with a "hole in my bucket" situation that spiraled out of control? Put a dollar figure on those hours. Rather than speculate, why not just ask the guy what his reasoning is. I GUARANTEE it's a variation on the theme Z3n and I came up with. And if you deem this person unfit to twist a wrench or run a business, vote with your feet.
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May 5, 2012 05:01
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Z3n posted:What happens is this: Mostly we never had issues with people deadbeating out of their bills and leaving us with lovely bikes, but we did have to invest a fair amount of time having long conversations with people to manage their expectations if they brought in a barn find for repair. We'd give them the Z3n talk and tell them it could range from 150 to 800, that kind of thing.
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May 5, 2012 05:14
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:This is a pretty worst-case scenario, but I've seen a lot of little things in this vein at the shop I worked at. We saw a lot of 70s/80s japanese bikes, mostly beat-up, not taken care of, owned by college students, that kind of thing. And one typical thing that would happen is it needs a new clutch, and 5 of the 10 clutch cover screws (all phillips screws, because japan didn't know what the gently caress it was doing back then) are frozen, stripped out, requiring dremeling and impact hammering or drilling or whatever. That turns a 45 minute job into a 3 hour one. It's annoying to the shop and the customer, but it's common, especially on old japanese bikes. Aren't they all JIS, not Phillips?
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May 5, 2012 05:19
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iwentdoodie posted:Aren't they all JIS, not Phillips? Nope. Just like Harleys are a mix of imperial and metric these days, the old japanese bikes had all sorts of fasteners running around.
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May 5, 2012 05:23
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Another thing to think about is the availability of OEM parts. If I remember correctly manufacturers are only required to make parts for models for 10 years. Usually parts are available for much longer due to things being common between model years. (I'm not talking about wear/maintenance items) My local dealership has it posted that they have the option to refuse to do work on bikes older than 10 years, yet they had no problem doing work on my 12 year old Kawasaki Police 1000.
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May 5, 2012 12:28
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Z3n posted:
 I cant even fathom letting it get that bad
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May 5, 2012 13:19
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Mcqueen posted:Hahaha I like that too. Rash your bike for its own protection, folks. Or ride an old piece of poo poo. I like to imagine the jerkbag who tore the cover off of my bike was looking for bikes to steal and went all "Bah, another Sucksuki, what a waste of time" when he saw it. EDIT: The video linked in the Reddit thread has one of the greatest smilies ever in the comments: ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 15:32 on May 5, 2012 |
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May 5, 2012 15:14
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:That turns a 45 minute job into a 3 hour one. And you're not going to get paid for that time because the price was agreed up front. If the shop does something small but finds something big, it's lose-lose for them. They won't get paid if the fix it but they'll get tons of poo poo if they don't. The customer doesn't want to hear bad things about his bike, he certainly doesn't want to hear that they didn't immediately fix it at no extra cost, he doesn't want to book new time for it and if it breaks on the road afterwards, it's the shop's fault. Shops are bad because customers are bad. DIY till I die.
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May 5, 2012 16:14
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Z3n posted:your typical dealership doesn't touch them with a ten foot pole because the couple of bucks they lose in shop fees are made up by the next squid who wants a gixxah. They're also pushing watercraft and ATVs. Try getting someone to pick up the phone when people are buying cottage toys in bulk or when hunting season's around the corner. Where do you think a vintage UJM sits in this food chain?
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May 5, 2012 18:06
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Marv Hushman posted:They're also pushing watercraft and ATVs. Try getting someone to pick up the phone when people are buying cottage toys in bulk or when hunting season's around the corner. Where do you think a vintage UJM sits in this food chain? Found an indie who not only has a set of take off BT45s for a song, he's discounting even more for a fellow two stroke rider. I loving LOVE vintage bike guys. Seriously some of the best people I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with.
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May 5, 2012 19:10
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Holy poo poo, I was driving home from the airport today and noticed that 70% of the riders I see are not wearing helmets now (Michigan). What the gently caress is wrong with these people? It makes me want to punch people in the head until they put on a helmet. I liked it better when these morons were protected from themselves.
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May 5, 2012 23:53
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During the work week 99% of the riders I see have helmets. On the weekends only 10% are wearing helmets. So the weekend warriors who dust off the bikes three times a year think they are too cool for helmets. The first non helmet fatality happened last weekend. What a stupid law.
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May 5, 2012 23:56
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2 days ago, I went on a quick ride to/from campus. On the way back from campus, I saw 3 bikes. 2 were Harleys without helmets, and both riders had helmets strapped to the pillion. Gotta love it.
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May 6, 2012 01:44
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Helmets are in the minority here in AZ. It's pretty sad. I don't care THAT much, though. I kinda like it, in a way, cause I can use it as a simple visual measurement of how much I, as a BMW rider wearing full gear, am better than everyone else. 
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May 6, 2012 01:53
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Helmets are in the minority here in AZ. It's pretty sad. I don't care THAT much, though. I kinda like it, in a way, cause I can use it as a simple visual measurement of how much I, as a BMW rider wearing full gear, am better than everyone else. Saw a husband and wife earlier on matching BMWs with half helmets and Columbia jackets and pants on.
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May 6, 2012 02:13
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I was showing off my Sena Bluetooth system to a couple of goons. I can't imagine riding without my helmet not just for safety and comfort but how would I get by without access to Siri and all my tunes?
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May 6, 2012 02:51
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Dolphin posted:I liked it better when these morons were protected from themselves. Protected in what sense? Prior to the repeal, all they ever wore were carbon fiber yarmulkes anyway.
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May 6, 2012 04:47
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Aside from the protection against pavement, I don't understand what feels good about being hit in the face with rocks and bugs at 80 mph.
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May 6, 2012 06:31
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thylacine posted:Aside from the protection against pavement, I don't understand what feels good about being hit in the face with rocks and bugs at 80 mph. They're freedom bugs, motherfucker.
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May 6, 2012 06:32
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I got pelted with Red Admiral butterflies a few days ago. An especially fat one exploded all over my visor. That made me pull into a highway rest stop. I can't imagine being one of the  non-full-faced and strolling into the rest stop like that.
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May 6, 2012 08:21
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Yeah, riding through dairy farm county I need to clean my visor with a windshield brush at every gas stop. Who the hell would want all that on their face?
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May 6, 2012 11:22
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iwentdoodie posted:I really can't see tires and a chain turning into a 1000+ repair. That argument makes no sense. There's nothing more to doing it on an old bike versus a new one. If you lived anywhere near me, I'd probably do it for free and buy you a pizza and a beer too. Anyway, that's what I usually do for local forum members. If I had to make a living wrenching 30 y.o. bikes, I'd probably charge you $1K just for looking at it.
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Gnaghi posted:Yeah, riding through dairy farm county I need to clean my visor with a windshield brush at every gas stop. Who the hell would want all that on their face? I live in a farming area and I would never ride with an open faced out here. Hell, just the other night I had my visor up, left the place I was at and had to turn around and return to sit down for 10 minutes because I copped a large moth or something right in my eye. I can't imagine dealing with that crap all the time - I couldn't keep my eye open at all because of all the bug guys and poo poo on it.
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May 6, 2012 12:33
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I once counted eight midges inside my lower eyelid.
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May 6, 2012 14:17
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Ola posted:I once counted eight midges inside my lower eyelid. And 3 Bettys and 2 Veronicas inside the other one. what the gently caress is wrong with me
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May 6, 2012 14:32
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I was unsure if midge was the correct name for the particular tiny flying fucker in question, but it took a different direction than what I was expecting.
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May 6, 2012 14:44
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I've been zapped with windshield washer fluid several times, Friday being the latest. I really don't care to find out what methanol eyedrops feel like at speed.
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May 6, 2012 14:45
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Ola posted:I was unsure if midge was the correct name for the particular tiny flying fucker in question, but it took a different direction than what I was expecting. You live in Norway, so what you encountered was probably Dipterids of the suborder Nematocera. Nasty bastards. The smell of burned Gnats on a warm H4 headlight is however delicious.
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Ola posted:I was unsure if midge was the correct name for the particular tiny flying fucker in question, but it took a different direction than what I was expecting. Here's hoping this particular Midge only gets to you via earbuds.  and drat my caffeine starved brain cells for not finding a way to work Dancing With Tears In My Eyes into this somehow...
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Ola posted:I was unsure if midge was the correct name for the particular tiny flying fucker in question, but it took a different direction than what I was expecting. Sir Cornelius posted:what you encountered was probably Dipterids of the suborder Nematocera. This, or wikipedia posted:Midge Klump is a fictional character appearing Archie Comics. Alternatively, wikipedia posted:Midge Hadley is a fictional doll character in the Barbie line of toys by Mattel that was first released in 1963. Midge was created, along with Skipper, to counteract criticism that claimed Barbie was a sex symbol. She was marketed as Barbie's best friend. I'll stop now.
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Dipterids! Thanks, I'll remember that. On the whole I'm quite happy with the Norwegian fauna. Nothing with ridiculous teeth or poisons - one notable exception being those pesky ticks. They freak me out. Like an idiot, I image searched ticks while posting. Now I'll have nightmares for a week. http://lavvumann.blogspot.com/2010/04/har-du-sett-makan-til-flattangrep.html 
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How hard is changing tires on a motorcycle? Worth the cost to just have it done or easy enough to do on my own? I don't have a garage anymore and had to sell most of my tools so I have a pretty minimal toolset. I just realized I'm kind of answering my own question as I go along here, move along.
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I hunt quite a bit. Unfortunately all my pretend-to-be-friends are girls and/or faggots that simply refuse to clean their own deer. That's my job. While I enjoy turning innocent dead animals into meat, I do not enjoy Ixodes ricinus. You won't believe the amount of those fuckers attached to the average dead Bambi. Ja, korrekt gættet. To skovflåt bed mig i bollerne sidste efterår. Sataner! Ved ikke helt om det er klimaforandringer eller andet, men mængden af dem er nærmest eksploderet i Skandinavien. Det er nok ikke noget der vil gavne tourist-erhvervet at tale om, så lad os håbe at Google translate ikke kan klare den her  "[panic posted:"] It's not that hard. I've used this method for years: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299597 Some tires has a orange or yellow balancing dot. If they do place that opposite the valve. Sir Cornelius fucked around with this message at 16:07 on May 6, 2012 |
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Ugh, I just finished cleaning my garage and I was backing my bike in. I tripped on the raised edge of the entrance and fell backwards, Luckily I had about half a second to roll before my bike fell on the left. The clutch lever and gear shift peg is completely sheered off. Luckily I'll be in California the next two weeks so I won't be missing much riding. I was planning on having my brother start it once or twice while I'm gone so the battery doesn't completely dry up but it looks like he cant now.  Shifter  Peg  I ordered new parts but they wont get here till I'm far away. Tenchrono fucked around with this message at 17:43 on May 6, 2012 |
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Z3n posted:Nope. Just like Harleys are a mix of imperial and metric these days, the old japanese bikes had all sorts of fasteners running around. Are you sure this isn't just because of previous owners? My buddy's xs650 had been "converted" from metric to imperial by the previous owner. ...meaning he stripped every screw and bolt on the bike and just threw in whatever he had lying around. My favorite was the grade 8 steel bolts he used on the forks. Instead of replacing the stripped stud he just took a larger grade 8 bold and ran it up into the soft aluminum. oh... the bolt is .75" too long? No problem, he used a stcak of various sized washers to shore it up  KozmoNaut posted:
Enjoy: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_emoticons&oldid=470032724 Sir Cornelius posted:If you lived anywhere near me, I'd probably do it for free and buy you a pizza and a beer too. Anyway, that's what I usually do for local forum members. If I had to make a living wrenching 30 y.o. bikes, I'd probably charge you $1K just for looking at it. This is my biggest fault. I've taken on 5 projects for other people. All of them complete builds. Like strip everything and wure wheel the rust from every screw/bolt rebuilds. Not only do I not accept monetary compensation, I usually wind up donating hundreds of dollars worth of parts from my stockpile and buying a lot of things out of pocket, just because. Vintage bike owners can be awesome to a fault.   
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A friend of mine just sold his GS500E and bought a late-70s or early-80s CB400 Hawk. He's planning to cafe it out. I had been trying to persuade him to upgrade to a SV and was showing him the quaint world of SV customization. He preferred the typical UJM-cafe world. Oh well. I tried the CB, and it was anemically slow and the single-disc front brake barely worked while the rear drum braked fine. Advised him about it. He still thinks the bike is badass. I don't get those people.
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Imagine what other people think about modding sv650s. Tenchrono, that would have only hurt the battery anyway. You need to be riding bikes to charge the battery (or at least revving them). Most bikes drain the battery at idle. Bummer about the bike drop but you ain't the first and won't be the last if it makes you feel any better. Lucky for me when I tipped over a bike moving it in the garage, it was my dad's.
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the walkin dude posted:I tried the CB, and it was anemically slow and the single-disc front brake barely worked while the rear drum braked fine. I have heard that most of those early discs actually performed worse than the twin-leading drums they were replacing. Drums aren't lacking for stopping power, after all...just resistance to fade and linearity of response.
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