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Aws
Dec 5, 2005
Thank you for the always excellent goon advice. That overclockers.com article is a great overview. I am sufficiently informed regarding water cooling. I'm going to give it a definite pass.

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HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

khy posted:

That's exactly what I want.

Because unless I can bump every loving slider in Skyrim up to the absolute maximum it can go while having already replaced every single texture in the game with obscenely high resolution versions of them and still never dip below 60FPS, I won't be happy :)

If you're into ridiculously high res texture replacements, the more VRAM the better. I'd take a long hard look at a 7970.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

Gookistamano posted:

Completely fanless off the shelf water cooling; possible or not? I have no experience whatsoever with water cooling. Please don't crush my dreams.
While this has been covered, one thing I'll point out is that it's completely pointless to build a fanless system and then put watercooling in it, since the pump alone will be louder than any reasonably quiet aircooled setup.

unpronounceable
Apr 4, 2010

You mean we still have another game to go through?!
Fallen Rib
The fan on my Scythe Shuriken just crapped out recently, and I'm looking for a replacement. I saw this 100mm fan and at a glance it looks like it'll be fine.

Does anyone see a problem with this? From what I gather, it has a 4-pin connector, so that should just plug into the CPU fan header right?

madkapitolist
Feb 5, 2006
I just signed up for the comcast promotion 6months @$29.99 for 20mbps down. Apparently I need a docsis 3.0 modem to get the most out of my speed. I see that the Motorola SB6120 is a very popular model and lots of people mod it. I was wondering what the benefits of a modded firmware were for this cable modem? I see sellers on ebay selling pre-modded versions of this modem but I cannot figure out what the benefit is?

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice
It's related to stealing cable, which is a very bad idea. It's probably in your best interest to rent the modem, that way Comcast will replace it if it dies, becomes obsolete, or just because you want to swap it for troubleshooting. There's also no chance they'll try to blame your equipment if you rent the modem.

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

Alereon posted:

It's related to stealing cable, which is a very bad idea. It's probably in your best interest to rent the modem, that way Comcast will replace it if it dies, becomes obsolete, or just because you want to swap it for troubleshooting. There's also no chance they'll try to blame your equipment if you rent the modem.

At least around here, the modems Comcast rents out are pieces of poo poo. Sure, you can always get a new one when yours goes out - but it'll be a few days without internet while you wait for them to take care of it. The Surfboards, on the other hand, are nice and stable unless they're pushing ridiculous upstream power levels (and it's on Comcast to take care of signal issues at that point anyway). Unless you think you'll be burning through a modem every year, at $7/month it makes sense to buy your own.

As far as modding the modem goes, it uncaps the bandwidth. Even if you buy the top-tier plan, you're not going to get all the bandwidth the hardware's capable of; unrestricted DOCSIS 3.0 can usually do ~150 Mb/s down and ~100 Mb/s up. And, with a modded modem, you can get those speeds on any plan, even the cheapass barely-better-than-dialup service. The downside is that it's really easy for Comcast to spot someone who's taking up enough bandwidth to serve an entire neighborhood, and like Alereon says, they'll treat you just like anybody else who's stealing cable.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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Why does RAM go bad? I had a machine start blue screening occasionally about 2 years after I built it, ran PC-Check overnight and found that 2 sticks of RAM were failing tests.

Now I'm mildly bothered and regretting buying OCZ RAM because it was super cheap at Microcenter over G.Skill from Newegg like I've done every other time. Here's hoping they have a good RMA policy. Or I could just goose the voltage some until it passes tests. :v:

Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 06:40 on May 7, 2012

Factory Factory
Mar 19, 2010

This is what
Arcane Velocity was like.

Weinertron posted:

Why does RAM go bad?

Weinertron posted:

OCZ

And that's a serious answer. They pumped their stuff so full of volts that the transistors inside it melt together over time.

redstormpopcorn
Jun 10, 2007
Aurora Master
My setup's given me two figuratively pants-making GBS threads panics in the past week; once on Tuesday when my underpowered UPS with a year-old battery tried to momentarily fail over to its 450va backup and couldn't accommodate my PC and giant ancient CRT's combined draw of 460W. Hit the power button, nothing, let it sit for 15 minutes and it revved up no problem. I guess the UPS' circuit caps were cooling off or something.

Everything was fine until yesterday when I restored from sleep mode, logged in, and got a BSOD as my (four-year-old 250GB Caviar Blue that's been sitting at 6 reallocated sectors since June 2010) boot drive wasn't detected by the motherboard. Didn't show up in BIOS, so I popped it out of the hot-swap bay, looked it over and reinserted. Detected and boots just dandy, like nothing happened. CrystalDiskInfo doesn't show any change/further damage, and it hasn't had an issue since.

I'm pretty broke at the moment so aside from dusting my case out, double-checking backups (in progress) and taking my monitor off-battery, are there any zero-budget steps I should be taking? Maybe I'll just sell a kidney or apply for a credit card to replace my monitor, UPS, and buy an SSD.

madkapitolist
Feb 5, 2006

Space Gopher posted:

At least around here, the modems Comcast rents out are pieces of poo poo. Sure, you can always get a new one when yours goes out - but it'll be a few days without internet while you wait for them to take care of it. The Surfboards, on the other hand, are nice and stable unless they're pushing ridiculous upstream power levels (and it's on Comcast to take care of signal issues at that point anyway). Unless you think you'll be burning through a modem every year, at $7/month it makes sense to buy your own.

As far as modding the modem goes, it uncaps the bandwidth. Even if you buy the top-tier plan, you're not going to get all the bandwidth the hardware's capable of; unrestricted DOCSIS 3.0 can usually do ~150 Mb/s down and ~100 Mb/s up. And, with a modded modem, you can get those speeds on any plan, even the cheapass barely-better-than-dialup service. The downside is that it's really easy for Comcast to spot someone who's taking up enough bandwidth to serve an entire neighborhood, and like Alereon says, they'll treat you just like anybody else who's stealing cable.

Ah

Thank you and Alereon for the in depth answer. Im definitely not trying to steal internet. What is the simplest/ cheapest Docsis 3.0 modem I can buy that is still of decent quality?

Schmendrick
Aug 22, 2003

(Insert stupid MMO name here.)
Out of curiosity, could I switch out the intel chip and motherboard the Dolphin list I brought up mentioned with other chips/motherboards that would work with the rest of the parts?

redstormpopcorn
Jun 10, 2007
Aurora Master

Schmendrick posted:

Out of curiosity, could I switch out the intel chip and motherboard the Dolphin list I brought up mentioned with other chips/motherboards that would work with the rest of the parts?
Yup, pretty much everything on MMO-Champ's build lists aside from the AMD CPU/mobo is interchangeable. If you went with one of the higher-end GPUs it might warrant a power supply upgrade, but that's about the only "necessary" change.

sweat poteto
Feb 16, 2006

Everybody's gotta learn sometime
What sort of glue should I use to fuse the huge panel gaps in the screen bezel of my dropped-too-many-times laptop? There's a gap along two edges and I can easily press it together but I guess the little catches inside have broken because it wont stay snapped together. The bezel is constantly flexed by the metal hinge inside it so I was thinking some kind of semi elastic glue instead of hard brittle superglue but maybe that's the wrong approach. Gluegoons, what sort should I use?

Rawrbomb
Mar 11, 2011

rawrrrrr
Might be the wrong place, but what happened to cases that had the removable motherboard tray? Did those just go away?

I remember working on a lot of cases that had that when I was younger and it seemed like a crazy awesome idea.

Medikit
Dec 31, 2002

que lástima
I recently lost my bios, apparently it's a well described problem with my motherboard (zotac 9300 itx G-E). I bought a replacement bios from ebay and my computer now starts. Unfortunately it cannot boot into windows 7. It will try to load but then constantly resets. Repair option, debugging, and safe mode, all reset as well. I'm not sure if the bios has made my motherboard appear different or if my hard drive took a crap.

Is there another way to repair my windows 7 installation without reinstalling? I lost my windows 7 key during a move and did not back up that key so it would force me to purchase a new copy of windows 7 if I were to reinstall.

UPDATE:
So I was suspicious that the bios chip I received had a crappy version on it (though just awesome enough to allow me some simple booting). I hot swapped it with my old defunct bios chip and awdflashed it with the new bios using an msdos bootable usb drive. Things seem to be working now.

Medikit fucked around with this message at 03:53 on May 8, 2012

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

Weinertron posted:

Why does RAM go bad? I had a machine start blue screening occasionally about 2 years after I built it, ran PC-Check overnight and found that 2 sticks of RAM were failing tests.

Now I'm mildly bothered and regretting buying OCZ RAM because it was super cheap at Microcenter over G.Skill from Newegg like I've done every other time. Here's hoping they have a good RMA policy. Or I could just goose the voltage some until it passes tests. :v:
RAM suffers age-related failures just like other hardware, it generally starts wearing out around the 2 year mark. Of course it's not REALLY "wear" since it's not related to how much it's just, just how long it's been in service. Even on servers using expensive ECC memory, they're still swapping RAM modules out as they fail, just like harddrives in a large RAID array.

In an interesting parallel to harddrives, there wasn't very much understanding of how memory errors occurred until Google did a massive study in their data center. Like harddrives, there was a myth that errors would occur at some low rate over the life of the device. That's why high-reliability systems use ECC memory, the idea that cosmic rays would cause random bit errors that you need the capability to correct. In reality, low-rate "soft" errors are only seen in systems using poor quality motherboards and are caused by EMI due to bad motherboard design. Google also found "hard" errors caused by failing memory modules to be vastly more common than anticipated.

Voodle
Jul 14, 2000
BANNED

Medikit posted:

I recently lost my bios, apparently it's a well described problem with my motherboard (zotac 9300 itx G-E). I bought a replacement bios from ebay and my computer now starts. Unfortunately it cannot boot into windows 7. It will try to load but then constantly resets. Repair option, debugging, and safe mode, all reset as well. I'm not sure if the bios has made my motherboard appear different or if my hard drive took a crap.

Is there another way to repair my windows 7 installation without reinstalling? I lost my windows 7 key during a move and did not back up that key so it would force me to purchase a new copy of windows 7 if I were to reinstall.

If it's doing that, it's probably down to the AHCI settings for the SATA controller, try switching between AHCI and IDE/normal SATA mode in the BIOS to see if that helps. That's about all that's going to cause it to reboot every time even on safe mode.

Medikit
Dec 31, 2002

que lástima

Voodle posted:

If it's doing that, it's probably down to the AHCI settings for the SATA controller, try switching between AHCI and IDE/normal SATA mode in the BIOS to see if that helps. That's about all that's going to cause it to reboot every time even on safe mode.

I tried AHCI, IDE, and RAID. It still resets automatically without being able to get into windows (sorry I can still get into the bios).

I tried something else. I booted from CD rom successfully, this brings up the "windows boot manager and states "windows failured to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause. To fix the problem instert your installation disc and restart."

This error occurs with all HDD unplugged as well.

UPDATE:
So I was suspicious that the bios chip I received had a crappy version on it (though just awesome enough to allow me some simple booting). I hot swapped it with my old defunct bios chip and awdflashed it with the new bios using an msdos bootable usb drive. Things seem to be working now.

Medikit fucked around with this message at 03:53 on May 8, 2012

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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So my UPS is coming up on 4 years old, and I'm in an area where it gets constant use because of constant power flickers and brownouts due to surrounding construction.

Is there any reason to replace the entire unit? Have UPS gotten any better in the last few years? It's looking like a battery replacement will be almost as much as a new one, but it seems a waste to replace more than the part that's failing.

Koskinator
Nov 4, 2009

MOURNFUL: ALAS,
POOR YORICK
Hopefully this is the right place for my questions.

My old reliable 8800GT conked out recently, and I upgraded it to a Radeon HD 6770. My computer is running Windows XP.

I have a hard-on for the old Baldur's Gate series. However, it turns out that the only way I can play them now with this new card is to disable hardware acceleration, as otherwise I get crazy stuttering and cursor flicking. When I disable HA, most of the options in my catalyst control center are disabled until I turn it back on, and when its off I get a warning on bootup about incompatible drivers.

My questions...

- I understand the concept of what HA does, but would having it off have an significant effect on newer games? What does it even do in terms of effect on visual quality and performance? For reference I mainly play League of Legends, TF2 and Starcraft 2 those days, and will play Diablo 3 when it's out.

- Is there a way to selectively turn off HA when I play Baldur's Gate, and have it on otherwise? I can only find a global switch.

Factory Factory
Mar 19, 2010

This is what
Arcane Velocity was like.

Koskinator posted:

- I understand the concept of what HA does, but would having it off have an significant effect on newer games? What does it even do in terms of effect on visual quality and performance? For reference I mainly play League of Legends, TF2 and Starcraft 2 those days, and will play Diablo 3 when it's out.

Hardware acceleration is required to play those games. In the 14 years since that game came out, CPU-based rendering has effectively ceased except for very simple games.

quote:

- Is there a way to selectively turn off HA when I play Baldur's Gate, and have it on otherwise? I can only find a global switch.

Not really, no. In fact, if you were running Windows 7, you couldn't disable hardware acceleration at all, since it's required for the OS to render the desktop.

Though that gives me an idea: If you upgraded to a copy of Windows 7 that allowed XP Mode (i.e. Win 7 Pro or Ultimate), you could run Baldur's Gate in XP Mode, which is a Virtual Machine with its own settings and preferences separate from the Win 7 installation yet runs programs seamlessly. You could disable HA in the VM, then run Baldur's Gate through it.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
I hope this is the right thread for this - I spilled water in my laptop and fried my dedicated graphics card and some of my USB slots. I'm concerned that there might be additional damage to the motherboard or CPU that hasn't shown up yet. Is there a diagnostic program that will really put my mobo and CPU through their paces so I can know what exactly needs to be repaired?

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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Mozi posted:

I hope this is the right thread for this - I spilled water in my laptop and fried my dedicated graphics card and some of my USB slots. I'm concerned that there might be additional damage to the motherboard or CPU that hasn't shown up yet. Is there a diagnostic program that will really put my mobo and CPU through their paces so I can know what exactly needs to be repaired?

CPU and/or motherboard damage would likely manifest itself either as a BSOD or instability. The best thing you could do is run some sort of stress test benchmark like SuperPI running for a while and see if it shuts down.

My favorite diagnostic is Eurosoft's PC-Check, but I don't know that there are any free or evaluation editions available.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
This picture shows the front of the Fractal Design R3, a case that's often recommended here. It looks to me like the fans would be pretty useless when the front door is closed, since they wouldn't be able to take in much outside air. I know this probably isn't true, but I don't know why. Can anyone explain?

IT Guy
Jan 12, 2010

You people drink like you don't want to live!

Biggest human being Ever posted:

This picture shows the front of the Fractal Design R3, a case that's often recommended here. It looks to me like the fans would be pretty useless when the front door is closed, since they wouldn't be able to take in much outside air. I know this probably isn't true, but I don't know why. Can anyone explain?



It appears there are vents on the side of the door:



Edit: never mind, it appears they are further back from where the door opens. I have no idea how that works out.

brewmeister
Sep 23, 2008
I chose the username "brewmeister". That tells you all you need to know about me.
I have 2 EVGA 560ti 448 in sli and they are hotter than a rattlesnakes taint under load. Saving up to do the Antec Kuhler 620 mod on them. But for now I was thinking about leaving the shroud off and changing the TIM. Will that do anything? Will I see a drop in temp?

PirateBob
Jun 14, 2003
How do I view detailed info on my hard drives?

Health diagnostic maybe, and I'd like to see when they were manufactured and at what point I started using it.

IAmKale
Jun 7, 2007

やらないか

Fun Shoe

PirateBob posted:

How do I view detailed info on my hard drives?

Health diagnostic maybe, and I'd like to see when they were manufactured and at what point I started using it.
CrystalDiskInfo will be your best bet, though I don't think your HDD reports when it was first used. You could take the serial number (as reported in CDI) and check the manufacturer's website for manufacturing date, though.

Bobulot
May 7, 2007

Biggest human being Ever posted:

This picture shows the front of the Fractal Design R3, a case that's often recommended here. It looks to me like the fans would be pretty useless when the front door is closed, since they wouldn't be able to take in much outside air. I know this probably isn't true, but I don't know why. Can anyone explain?

IT Guy posted:

Edit: never mind, it appears they are further back from where the door opens. I have no idea how that works out.
Between those little swinging doors over the 2 fans and the front of the filters is a 1 inch gap, air comes in through those side vents into that area and is pulled through the filters.

EDIT: This image shows how the filters sit flush with the actual frame of the case with the fans inside. The whole front door assembly is held away to allow for air flow through the vents.

Bobulot fucked around with this message at 16:29 on May 8, 2012

PirateBob
Jun 14, 2003

Karthe posted:

CrystalDiskInfo will be your best bet, though I don't think your HDD reports when it was first used. You could take the serial number (as reported in CDI) and check the manufacturer's website for manufacturing date, though.

Thanks. Is there maybe a way to find the files with the first "date created" date?

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Weinertron posted:

So my UPS is coming up on 4 years old, and I'm in an area where it gets constant use because of constant power flickers and brownouts due to surrounding construction.

Is there any reason to replace the entire unit? Have UPS gotten any better in the last few years? It's looking like a battery replacement will be almost as much as a new one, but it seems a waste to replace more than the part that's failing.

If your UPS has been good to you, I'd just replace the batteries. I have about 5 UPSes due to bad power here and previous issues with storms, and I replace the batteries every few years. I've found that with a new battery the units act like they were new again, and for me the batteries have cost around half as much as a new unit. The 500VA and 650VA units I have use batteries that cost around $20, while the 1000 and 1200VA usually use two batteries that are in the $25 range.

If you unit doesn't have voltage regulation you might consider a new one just because it's useful to have some power conditioning (mine click on to bump the voltage up when the AC runs or we get brown outs in the summer), but most of what manufacturers have added recently seems to be LCD panels on the front that you won't look at anyway.

IAmKale
Jun 7, 2007

やらないか

Fun Shoe

PirateBob posted:

Thanks. Is there maybe a way to find the files with the first "date created" date?
Would the install date of Windows work? If so, then type
code:
systeminfo | find "Original Install Date"
into a command prompt and it'll spit back the date Windows was installed. If that won't work, then just do a search for * in C:\ and sort the results by "Date Created".

Factory Factory
Mar 19, 2010

This is what
Arcane Velocity was like.

Rexxed posted:

If your UPS has been good to you, I'd just replace the batteries.

There's one exception to this: the internal switch that goes between battery power and mains power has a limited lifespan of a few hundred switches. When I had shittier power in my apartment, I burned through so many switches (about... 250? 300?) that the UPS actually stopped switching. It was covered by warranty for advanced RMA, though.

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

Biggest human being Ever posted:

This picture shows the front of the Fractal Design R3, a case that's often recommended here. It looks to me like the fans would be pretty useless when the front door is closed, since they wouldn't be able to take in much outside air. I know this probably isn't true, but I don't know why. Can anyone explain?



They pull air in around the sides of the case as in the picture IT guy quoted. I was a little unsure when I first saw it, but actually it works well. Lets see if I can get a picture of what I mean.

Edit: here you go, sorry everyone else: these aren't exciting images

Here you can see how the plastic "door" fan cover has no real vent slots, but it sits quite far from the actual filter.


Just a quick one to show depth comparison, showing the door would sit flush on the DVD drive..


.. But you can see here the depth of the front as the DVD drive is out quite far, giving you a decent amount of ventilation down the sides.


HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 21:26 on May 8, 2012

Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.



If a video card constantly gives a Code 10, replacing the drivers does nothing, and it limits itself to 640x480 with blue lines all over the screen, is it safe to say that it's joined the Choir Invisible?

Probably-dead card is an NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS, motherboard is Asus P5N-D with PCI-E 2.0. What would be a decent replacement card these days?

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

Jet Jaguar posted:

If a video card constantly gives a Code 10, replacing the drivers does nothing, and it limits itself to 640x480 with blue lines all over the screen, is it safe to say that it's joined the Choir Invisible?

Probably-dead card is an NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS, motherboard is Asus P5N-D with PCI-E 2.0. What would be a decent replacement card these days?

It's gone.

Lifetime warranties were pretty common back when the 8800GTS was a good card; you might want to check to see if you're still under warranty. Failing that, you'll run into a CPU bottleneck with higher-ed modern cards, but a Radeon 6770 would be a decent match. It's also the least expensive gaming card recommended in the stickied parts picking, system building, and upgrading megathread.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Thanks to everyone who explained the R3 ventilation, looks like I'll join the owners club soon. :)

Mr. Giggles
Nov 4, 2009
Hi guys. Im looking at buying a computer desktop from a friend-of-a-friend and am not incredibly knowledgeable about parts interactions or if I'm getting ripped off. Apologies if this is the wrong place to post. Anyways, I'm looking to get a PC that can do some gaming on modern games without catastrophic issues.

So, for 500 dollars here is the offering:
23" Acer LED LCD 1080p flat screen, HDMI cable, Logitech Speaker System with Subwoofer, Keyboard, Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3000, and 150Mbps Wireless 802.11b/g/n nano USB Adapter.
Windows 7 Home Premium, AMD Athlon II X3 3.3GHz, Sapphire Radeon HD 5830 1GB DDR5, 4GB DDR3 1333MHz RAM, 80GB HDD 7200RPM, 160GB HDD 5400RPM, CD-RW Drive, HDMI Out, AM3+ motherboard, and 600 watt power supply with turbo fan button.

Is there anything critical missing from this components list? How do I ensure when I go to look at it that it's not about to metaphorically fall apart? I know to check the wiring to see if it's wired well, but beyond that not much. Are there any programs I should bring on a flash drive to check computer integrity? Anything you guys could offer in terms of advice in this process would be much appreciated. Thanks

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future ghost
Dec 5, 2005

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Mr. Giggles posted:

Hi guys. Im looking at buying a computer desktop from a friend-of-a-friend and am not incredibly knowledgeable about parts interactions or if I'm getting ripped off. Apologies if this is the wrong place to post. Anyways, I'm looking to get a PC that can do some gaming on modern games without catastrophic issues.

So, for 500 dollars here is the offering:
23" Acer LED LCD 1080p flat screen, HDMI cable, Logitech Speaker System with Subwoofer, Keyboard, Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3000, and 150Mbps Wireless 802.11b/g/n nano USB Adapter.
Windows 7 Home Premium, AMD Athlon II X3 3.3GHz, Sapphire Radeon HD 5830 1GB DDR5, 4GB DDR3 1333MHz RAM, 80GB HDD 7200RPM, 160GB HDD 5400RPM, CD-RW Drive, HDMI Out, AM3+ motherboard, and 600 watt power supply with turbo fan button.

Is there anything critical missing from this components list? How do I ensure when I go to look at it that it's not about to metaphorically fall apart? I know to check the wiring to see if it's wired well, but beyond that not much. Are there any programs I should bring on a flash drive to check computer integrity? Anything you guys could offer in terms of advice in this process would be much appreciated. Thanks
Don't bother with testing it. Crap no-name PSU, old slow processor, old mid-range videocard, ancient HDD, etc. Not worth the reliability question, and you can build a modern i3 PC for around that price that will run circles around it. Ask around in the parts-picking megathread (after reading the OP) and they'll help set you up with a build. Definitely read the OP first as it's extremely comprehensive.

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