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Quantumfate
Feb 17, 2009

Angered & displeased, he went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, insulted & cursed him with rude, harsh words.

When this was said, the Blessed One said to him:


"Motherfucker I will -end- you"


Inspector_71 posted:

Wait Pianos made you think of crust?

Slow melodic dirge-like songs and tense vocals. It's not much of a leap from Pianos to some neocrust stuff like Ecocide or vestiges. Sure the lyrics are more nihilistic than self agonizing, but screamo->crust isnt that big of a leap in my opinion.

Killsion posted:

From there you can really go anywhere. I mentioned The Secret earlier so check out them and All Pigs Must Die. From Fall of Efrafa you can go more into dark neocrust like Dead to a Dying World or atmospheric sludge like Light Bearer.

Dead do a dying world yesssss. I would also have to recommend nux vomica, vestiges, insuiciety, URO, witch hunt, Young and in the way and maybe omkara, depending on how krishna-y you like your crust.

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nomapple
Apr 27, 2012

Quantumfate posted:

Fall and efafra and PBtT make me beg the quesiton: How do you feel about crust?

I enjoy crust although I'm not entirely sure what defines it as a genre. I like Amebix for example, and Doom, but I'd be hardpressed to name other crust bands I like off the top of my head. In short, I don't feel I can answer your question, simply because I am not knowledgable about the genre.

Light Bearer/Fall of Efafra/Momentum are all fantastic bands.

I guess I forgot to mention loads of bands because I have already listened to bands like All Pigs Must Die, Botch, Trap Them and Narrows. Converge's new'un is by far one of my anticipated of 2012. I think I love that band a little too much.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I wouldn't really know how to define crust either. There's only one crust band that I really like, and that's Antischism. Not sure if they even count.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



duck monster posted:

Good news: The marjinal documentry got funded. Looking forward to a pretty amazing doco on one of the kings of third world punk.

This is great news, keep us updated.

bowmore posted:

If I was just getting into listening to Punk/Hardcore/Emo music what would be the first 5 albums you would recommend me?

This is a bit of a vague question as those categories cover an incredibly varied range of musical styles. As far as hardcore is concerned, you can't go wrong with a couple of solid discographies. I recommend getting started with Minor Threat's discography, which is basically what got me into American eighties hardcore. Other worthwhile hardcore bands of this time period are Black Flag, Bad Brains, Articles of Faith, Government Issue, Negative Approach and Uniform Choice (only their Screaming For Change album, though). In a somewhat similar vein, I'm partial to the late eighties band Insted, though they don't seem to get much love here. They also have a complete discography, called Proud Youth. Finally, for a recent hardcore example, there's Government Warning, which I've lately become enamoured of. Note that I generally want metal to stay out of my punk, so I don't know much about the heavier stuff.

If you're looking for more traditional punk/Oi!, I would recommend mainstays like Stiff Little Fingers, Angelic Upstarts, the Oppressed, Sham 69, Cock Sparrer, the Cockney Rejects, Infa Riot and Funeral Dress to get you started.

Killsion
Feb 16, 2011

Templars Rock.

Phlegmish posted:

I wouldn't really know how to define crust either. There's only one crust band that I really like, and that's Antischism. Not sure if they even count.

Crust tends to differ a good deal but generally sounding kind of like Discharge with metallic influence is a good start.

Gym Leader Barack
Oct 31, 2005

Grimey Drawer

bowmore posted:

If I was just getting into listening to Punk/Hardcore/Emo music what would be the first 5 albums you would recommend me?

Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotten Vegetables
Propagandhi - Todays Empires Tomorrows Ashes
Various Artists - Fat Music For Fat People
Bad Religion - Stranger Than Fiction
Pennywise - Full Circle (or Straight Ahead)


I might cop some flak for including a Fat Wreck sampler but volumes 1 and 2 of the Fat Music series are two of my absolute favourite CDs, they introduced me to a lot of great bands and basically shaped my entire musical tastes. Any punk samplers (Fat Wreck, also Epitaph's Punk-o-Rama series) are generally very cheap and a great way of getting exposure to a ton of different bands and punk styles.
Todays Empires I consider to be Propagandhi's best album (with Supporting Caste very closely behind it), their earlier albums were a lot simpler in the songwriting but the melodic/metal/hardcore elements they introduced from Todays Empires onwards really defines the band as a unique musical entity instead of being just another skate punk band.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Fat's "Short Music For Short People" is incredibly silly but fun to listen to.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Is this the part where I rattle off some ridiculously rad pop-punk albums that only two or three other people here have listened to? Because I"m gonna pretend it is.

The entire Steinways discography (two albums and a comp of their singles)
The Ergs - Dorkrockcorkrod
The Hextalls - Call It A Comeback
Sass Dragons - Bonkaroo

and then not pop-punk at all but Dillinger Four's Midwestern Songs of the Americas.

All ridiculously awesome albums.

LCQC
Mar 19, 2009

Dickeye posted:

and then not pop-punk at all but Dillinger Four's Midwestern Songs of the Americas.

:crossarms:

But further in that vein: Latterman, Dear Landlord, the Dopamines, and Iron Chic.

DoHimJob
Nov 30, 2005

GIANT SPACEBALL

Killsion posted:

I don't really think bowmore would benefit from them though. Such albums are not indicative of what punk, hardcore, or emo really sounds like.

Anyway, here is my list.

Malignus Youth - Missa Brevis
Muga - Muga
1905 - Voice
Crass - The Feeding of the 5000
Discharge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing

You can't really consider yourself a punk or hardcore fan if you haven't heard those Crass or Discharge albums and if anyone hasn't heard Missa Brevis then you really should. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF9UVqL9xk4

1905- Voice is probably my favorite album of all time, and I can't recommend it enough.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Alright! I'll see what I can pick up from the lists you guys gave me.

LtTennisBall
Apr 5, 2009

Dickeye posted:

Is this the part where I rattle off some ridiculously rad pop-punk albums that only two or three other people here have listened to? Because I"m gonna pretend it is.

The entire Steinways discography (two albums and a comp of their singles)
The Ergs - Dorkrockcorkrod
The Hextalls - Call It A Comeback

These two are so good, The Ergs are probably my favorite punk band of the last 10 years. I'd also recommend The Menzinger's most recent album, though that band tends to get a mixed reception here.

Megiddo
Apr 27, 2004

Unicorns bite, but their bites feel GOOD.

Quantumfate posted:

Hey, can anyone recommend me any female fronted screamo other than To Dream of Autumn, Anomie, The hope and the failure, Hiretsukan, This Scares me and Arsen AKA König Der Monster? Not like bands with male/female vocals, but bands that are primarily female.

EDIT: forgot loma prieta.
Ravachol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7QHPkPHQdI

Funkutron5000
Jan 21, 2010
I'm not sure if this should go here or the indie thread or what but the new Gaslight Anthem single was posted on Rolling Stone.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/song-exclusive-the-gaslight-anthem-45-20120430

It does feel a lot more like Sink or Swim than American Slang.

Killsion
Feb 16, 2011

Templars Rock.

Funkutron5000 posted:

I'm not sure if this should go here or the indie thread or what but the new Gaslight Anthem single was posted on Rolling Stone.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/song-exclusive-the-gaslight-anthem-45-20120430

It does feel a lot more like Sink or Swim than American Slang.

I'm a bit of an elitist so yea, I'd say it goes in the indie thread, but that is just me. I pretty much hate orgcore anyway.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Millencolin just posted a new song on their facebook you can listen to it here. Thoughts?

LCQC
Mar 19, 2009

bowmore posted:

Millencolin just posted a new song on their facebook you can listen to it here. Thoughts?

Well, I didn't like it much, but I did put Pennybridge Pioneers on, so probably a net positive.

Gym Leader Barack
Oct 31, 2005

Grimey Drawer
It's one of their "Yeah go girl you can make it!" uplifting songs and I've never been the biggest fan of those tracks, this one appears to be no exception. I haven't really clicked with any of the albums after Home from Home, I like the darker sound of the earlier stuff and the only song in recent years that I have liked is Farewell My Hell which does resume a little of the dark guitars and lyrics. The happy stuff I don't mind if they're singing about scooters and poo poo like that, and they have always had a couple of soppy "your mum died, don't feel bad" positive songs but now it seems the balance has shifted to it being their primary output if this is the single they tease the album with.

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

Anyone who missed the Stray Bullets reunion show at Great Scott in Boston tonight is bad and should feel bad.

Gaz2k21
Sep 1, 2006

MEGALA---WHO??!!??
So guys I checked back a few pages but didnt see any talk of it.....anyone heard pennywise's new album ???!?!? You really should try it....it's loving fantastic!

Quantumfate
Feb 17, 2009

Angered & displeased, he went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, insulted & cursed him with rude, harsh words.

When this was said, the Blessed One said to him:


"Motherfucker I will -end- you"


FateoMcSkippy posted:

Anyone who missed the Stray Bullets reunion show at Great Scott in Boston tonight is bad and should feel bad.

But. . . I'm on the west coast :(

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

Quantumfate posted:

But. . . I'm on the west coast :(

Well then you should feel bad regardless of what is happening.

Gym Leader Barack
Oct 31, 2005

Grimey Drawer

Gaz2k21 posted:

So guys I checked back a few pages but didnt see any talk of it.....anyone heard pennywise's new album ???!?!? You really should try it....it's loving fantastic!

This is strange, it is definitely a good album but I'm just weirded out by the change in singer. For me a very big part of Pennywise's sound was Jim's vocals, they just fit the lyrical content so well, especially the more reflective stuff like What if I and Alien, and while the new lead's vocals are still impressive it just doesn't (for me) give the band that slight edge that having Jim as a frontman provided. Before there was no problem identifying a Pennywise song even if I had never heard it before but now it could be any of a dozen punk bands in my playlist.
It might become more familiar and identifiable with repeat listens and further output but I'm not sure, this is the first band that I have had to deal with a change in vocalist instead of a less prominent instrumentalist member being replaced which can be unnoticeable if they keep the same writing style. Have there been any other bands that you guys consider "big" in your own collection that have changed their singers? a) How did you react to the change and b) did the band last from that point onwards both from an overall fanbase view as well as your own?

treat
Jul 24, 2008

by the sex ghost
With Level Plane and Grey Sky extinct, can anyone recommend newer distro's to keep an eye on? Super labels aside, I'm aware of Temporary Residence, G7, and that's about it.

Quantumfate
Feb 17, 2009

Angered & displeased, he went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, insulted & cursed him with rude, harsh words.

When this was said, the Blessed One said to him:


"Motherfucker I will -end- you"


Adagio 830, Echo canyon, Protagonist Music, Topshelf Records? Those are my big four. I tend to be pretty big on them, especially topshelf.

Gaz2k21
Sep 1, 2006

MEGALA---WHO??!!??

RandomCheese posted:

This is strange, it is definitely a good album but I'm just weirded out by the change in singer. For me a very big part of Pennywise's sound was Jim's vocals, they just fit the lyrical content so well, especially the more reflective stuff like What if I and Alien, and while the new lead's vocals are still impressive it just doesn't (for me) give the band that slight edge that having Jim as a frontman provided. Before there was no problem identifying a Pennywise song even if I had never heard it before but now it could be any of a dozen punk bands in my playlist.
It might become more familiar and identifiable with repeat listens and further output but I'm not sure, this is the first band that I have had to deal with a change in vocalist instead of a less prominent instrumentalist member being replaced which can be unnoticeable if they keep the same writing style. Have there been any other bands that you guys consider "big" in your own collection that have changed their singers? a) How did you react to the change and b) did the band last from that point onwards both from an overall fanbase view as well as your own?

It's true I wish they'd have gone with another name other than Pennywise for all the same reasons. I was also worried what we'd get was just an ignite album thankfully Zoli seems to have changed his vocal style to fit pennywise rather than the other way round.
I think the 2 biggest frontman changes I've known would be The Misfits and The Gallows both bands that were identified by there singer, in The Misfits case it split there fanbase(I personally enjoy both Graves and Danzig material) and the jury is still out on The Gallows ...

13stitches
Mar 13, 2012

You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it and you wave a flag celebrating it.

RandomCheese posted:

This is strange, it is definitely a good album but I'm just weirded out by the change in singer. For me a very big part of Pennywise's sound was Jim's vocals, they just fit the lyrical content so well, especially the more reflective stuff like What if I and Alien, and while the new lead's vocals are still impressive it just doesn't (for me) give the band that slight edge that having Jim as a frontman provided. Before there was no problem identifying a Pennywise song even if I had never heard it before but now it could be any of a dozen punk bands in my playlist.
It might become more familiar and identifiable with repeat listens and further output but I'm not sure, this is the first band that I have had to deal with a change in vocalist instead of a less prominent instrumentalist member being replaced which can be unnoticeable if they keep the same writing style. Have there been any other bands that you guys consider "big" in your own collection that have changed their singers? a) How did you react to the change and b) did the band last from that point onwards both from an overall fanbase view as well as your own?

Zoli's kind of a 180 degree change away from Jim, I had to re-read the newsstory back then at least twice until I my brain really processed the informations. He's pretty good with Ignite, but he just dosen't really fit in with Pennywise, event though both bands are playing pretty much the same kind of punkrock and both are tackling political issues... Perhaps I'll get used to it, just like I did with Tony as the new singer of Turbonegro.
Speaking of, Turbonegro's new song's pretty great, makes me really look forward to the band's next full length record.

punxnbutter
May 22, 2007

Nonsense is better than no sense at all

Gaz2k21 posted:

So guys I checked back a few pages but didnt see any talk of it.....anyone heard pennywise's new album ???!?!? You really should try it....it's loving fantastic!

It was better than I expected it to be and it's because Zoli didn't do some of the crazy opera vocals he pulled with Ignite. I dug a fair amount of the riffs from Fletcher and that was good enough for me.

AbrahamBurgers
Aug 30, 2007

It's like people only do things because they get paid
Stream an old, slightly hosed up mix of my band's new lp.

http://toxicbreedsfunhouse.blogspot.com/2012/05/stream-apart-gray-light-lp.html

Diar
Dec 22, 2003

Why would I have a problem with it? John Redcorn is gay, and I've been friends with him for twenty years.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/tom-gabel-of-against-me-comes-out-as-transgender-20120508

Count Chocula
Dec 25, 2011

WE HAVE TO CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT
IF YOU SEE ME POSTING OUTSIDE OF THE AUSPOL THREAD PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M MISSED AND TO START POSTING AGAIN
I just posted that to the Transgender Megathread in E/N, but I didn't say I was a bit worried about her voice. It'll probably just be awesome in a different way.

Any Sydney goons going to Frank Turner this weekend?

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Edit: never mind, not a good idea.

Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 04:30 on May 9, 2012

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.

This doesn't make up for how poo poo White Crosses was.

OjaiYoda
Nov 13, 2009
my friends post hardcore band is going on tour this summer. i am going with them pop in and say hi!
http://felltolow.bandcamp.com/

Count Chocula
Dec 25, 2011

WE HAVE TO CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT
IF YOU SEE ME POSTING OUTSIDE OF THE AUSPOL THREAD PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M MISSED AND TO START POSTING AGAIN
http://thegaslightanthem.tumblr.com/post/22701565273/so-toms-gonna-be-laura-now-and-in-2012-i-still

Brian Fallon from Gaslight Anthem proved that even though he's religious he still supports transgender rights. Should I discuss their music here or the indie rock thread? I tried making a Springsteen and Friends thread but it died, and I need a place to sperg out over Gaslight Anthem and The Loved Ones and Orgcore bands.

nasboat
Sep 9, 2004

OjaiYoda posted:

my friends post hardcore band is going on tour this summer. i am going with them pop in and say hi!
http://felltolow.bandcamp.com/


is anyone else's natural inclination to see this name as a typo?

I know it's not, but I see Fell To Low and I think "where's the other O?" :)

stay depressed
Sep 30, 2003

by zen death robot

Count Chocula posted:

http://thegaslightanthem.tumblr.com/post/22701565273/so-toms-gonna-be-laura-now-and-in-2012-i-still

Brian Fallon from Gaslight Anthem proved that even though he's religious he still supports transgender rights. Should I discuss their music here or the indie rock thread? I tried making a Springsteen and Friends thread but it died, and I need a place to sperg out over Gaslight Anthem and The Loved Ones and Orgcore bands.

You're welcome to talk about any artists you want in this thread that are under the umbrella. Those bands are included obviously so go nuts. The people that aren't into it just wont engage in the discussion. That's their problem not yours.

Jorge Cauldron 2
Apr 13, 2007
HEY GUYS IM BACK JUST FORGOT MY EMAIL IM NOT AN 07 D00DS

TG-Chrono posted:

This doesn't make up for how poo poo White Crosses was.

I certainly am supportive of Gabel but I still want to rage about how badly he (now she? I genuinely am asking because I don't know what is proper) ruined Against Me with all of that garbage they put out.

TheBlackMallard
Apr 24, 2005

"Maybe this whole internet idea wasn't a good idea."
-Tom Green (June 18th 2006, 3:52AM EST)
Maybe they'll be less terrible once he's a lady?

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Unbootable
Jul 3, 2003

Jorge Cauldron 2 posted:

I certainly am supportive of Gabel but I still want to rage about how badly he (now she? I genuinely am asking because I don't know what is proper) ruined Against Me with all of that garbage they put out.

It's generally just accepted that you refer to the person as their chosen gender that they're transitioning into.

Edit: sorry if that sounded dickish, it wasn't meant to sound like that.

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