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Haven't seen it yet, but in the books they sneak into a wildling camp, kill a few of them except for Ygritte, who's left for Jon to kill, but he can't and he lets her get away. Then I think she comes back with Rattleshirt and the others.
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Oh welp then I just have a lovely memory. e: this sansa almost-rape/Hound scene is definitely new though. e2: I don't remember dany's dragons getting dragonnapped either. IRQ fucked around with this message at 04:11 on May 7, 2012 |
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May 7, 2012 03:43
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Contra Calculus posted:Well most likely the characters on 30 Rock are the type of people who wouldn't read fantasy books written by a goon. seriously? 
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IRQ posted:Oh welp then I just have a lovely memory. Are you sure, because Joffrey getting a cow pie in his face is in the books IIRC. I liked how Tyrion noticed things are about to go well so he makes sure Tommen is safe, but doesn't care about Joffrey. ... And a little later Joffrey ignores Tyrion, even though it might mean Jaime's life.
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May 7, 2012 04:11
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IRQ posted:Oh welp then I just have a lovely memory. Sansa is Lollys, only without the actual gangrape.
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May 7, 2012 04:17
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Hedrigall posted:The name of the town... Is it meant to be mole's town or molest town? Molests Own.
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May 7, 2012 04:36
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Sometimes I'm just hanging around, minding my own business, and I remember that as of book 5 there are officially elves in this series. They go by a different name and have cat eyes, but they're diminuitive long-lived forest-dwelling fey pointy-eared people whose time in the world is almost over. Elves. gently caress.
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May 7, 2012 05:09
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^^^ That didn't happen and I'm sticking to it.IRQ posted:e: this sansa almost-rape/Hound scene is definitely new though. 1. To fill out the Sansa Rape Threat/Rape in General GRRM quota that was part of GRRM's contract, so they merged her with Lollys. 2. That didn't happen. But considering Dany never did poo poo until Belwas took a fierce poo poo in Astapor's direction, I can't get mad at them giving her SOMETHING to do.
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May 7, 2012 05:13
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CoTF are nothing like elves, and I'm betting on them being really creepy and evil. I imagine either Brann or Arya (or both) will be the ones killing someone the reader is supposed to root for. edit: VVVV Dragons are less fantasy cliche than elves? zalmoxes fucked around with this message at 05:19 on May 7, 2012 |
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May 7, 2012 05:14
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zalmoxes posted:CoTF are nothing like elves, and I'm betting on them being really creepy and evil. Oh great, they're Drow, that's MUCH better. 
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May 7, 2012 05:16
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Oh poo poo yes, gonna paint up 1500 points of
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May 7, 2012 05:18
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zalmoxes posted:edit: VVVV Dragons are less fantasy cliche than elves? First, I wasn't taking a poo poo on you with the Drow thing, I was just mocking the book. Two things about your "cliche" comment. First, the dragons seemed kind of earned, and made sense from an emotional standpoint. Dany went through a world of poo poo, but got some dragons out of it. Second, it's kind of a case of "once is coincidence, twice is a pattern" or "two's company, three's a crowd". I can roll with Dragons and low/dirty/blood magic but those two things AND elves is too much cliche for my palate.
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May 7, 2012 05:24
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I'm looking forward to Dany chasing some dragon abductors in the Benny Hill-esque fashion while Yakety Sax plays on the background. They could run into the House of the Undying and do the thing where there's a hallway with doors on opposite sides and they're running from one side to another and sometimes it's Dany chasing the dragons or khal Drogo chasing Dany or two Danys. Then the culprit is caught by the people whose Mother Dany claims to be and is like "and I would have succeeded if it weren't for those meddling kids!"
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May 7, 2012 05:25
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Sometimes I'm just hanging around, minding my own business, and I remember that as of book 5 there are officially elves in this series. They go by a different name and have cat eyes, but they're diminuitive long-lived forest-dwelling fey pointy-eared people whose time in the world is almost over. Elves. gently caress. But...there were always elves, just in the backstory.
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Tony Danza Claus posted:1. To fill out the Sansa Rape Threat/Rape in General GRRM quota that was part of GRRM's contract, so they merged her with Lollys. Pretty sure Lollys was still there, though. Didn't we see the pudgier of Sansa's ladies-in-waiting get her top ripped off during the riot?
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Why cookie Rocket posted:First, I wasn't taking a poo poo on you with the Drow thing, I was just mocking the book. They've always been a thing though. The first book, which opened with magic ice zombies and closed with dragons, had, right in the middle, "the first men" being all "gimme yo land, elf dudes". ADWD just had two of them still being alive. Also, you realize I have to kill you in combat because you just made me defend ADWD, right?
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May 7, 2012 05:35
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So what if he introduced Tolkienesque orcs called Grumpkins in the next book*, would you be ok with that, too? *lol
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You forgot GIANTS. And where did he steal wargs from anyway? I don't read much fantasy.
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Why cookie Rocket posted:First, I wasn't taking a poo poo on you with the Drow thing, I was just mocking the book. After the parts with the giants, shadow demons, ice demons, ice spiders, ice zombies, fire zombies, rock zombies, and diarrhea golems, the predictable exposition of an entity that was fairly regularly mentioned since book one didn't bother me too much. But I agree, they were totally just loving elves, and it seems now that he's gonna be more or less relying on the fantasy cliches we all thought he was trying to subvert with this series. e: seems I'm a bit late.
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I love how totally over it Bran is. Theon runs in and tells him he's taken Winterfell and Bran is just, "Why?" Like, this kid has enough to deal with being crippled and having crazyass dreams and Ned being dead. He doesn't give a gently caress anymore. He's gonna go be a tree wizard, gently caress ya'll.
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zalmoxes posted:You forgot GIANTS. And where did he steal wargs from anyway? I don't read much fantasy. Tolkien again. Who "stole" it from Norse mythology. These ideas, (but gently caress elves whatever you want to call them) are parts of a universal human subconscious. These mythical creatures come from disparate societies from all over the world and are perfectly legitimate tools to tell a story. A story GURM has long since lost interest in, unfortunately, so whining about grumpkins and goblins is just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
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May 7, 2012 06:10
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I've been banging on it ever since I started posting here, but the largest point of ASOIAF is about why we cherish fantasy and myth.
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I really like how loving sad Theon's story is. In the books I just thought he was a dick until he got tortured, but in the show they're showing how totally pathetic and out of control he really is. Theon just wants to be loved. 
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whowhatwhere posted:I've been banging on it ever since I started posting here, but the largest point of ASOIAF is about why we cherish fantasy and myth. I thought it was palace intrigue and incest? Where have I been. I started reading because I saw the last ep. of season 1 and I wanted to read Chaughrei's death. It took me a while, but I was fairly satisfied about that. Things I was not that interested in, at least partly because of the stigma of bad and or high fantasy, include dragons, elves, wizards and so forth. If I want to read ADD&D the book I'll go back and pick up some Dragonlance or whatever.
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Martin Van Buren posted:it seems now that he's gonna be more or less relying on the fantasy cliches we all thought he was trying to subvert with this series. *: The Pear-shaped Man. He took all George's things.
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empty sea posted:I really like how loving sad Theon's story is. In the books I just thought he was a dick until he got tortured, but in the show they're showing how totally pathetic and out of control he really is. PRINCE Theon 
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whowhatwhere posted:PRINCE Theon Ha! Yes, Prince Theon just wants to be loved. And the sad thing is that he was. He was loved by the Starks and then he went home and betrayed them for a family that treated him like poo poo. I could see Robb fighting a battle to get him back or ransoming him. I couldn't see Balon doing that. Oh, Theon, you miserable fucker. You should've ran back home to Robb's bedroom eyes. 
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All Theon wanted was to be a Stark, but he never could.
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zalmoxes posted:You forgot GIANTS. And where did he steal wargs from anyway? I don't read much fantasy. Robin Hobb introduced a character who mentally communicates with/body hops into a wolf using a power that runs in bloodlines who is also a bastard and also is an assassin and politically naive and he marries a commoner and (almost) dies because of honor in 1995. The entire current generation of the Stark family is based on Fitzchivalry Farseer. edit: Also the series includes the reemergence of dragons and feeding life to (a facsimile of) dragons to create life and has a fool who knows the future. jsoh fucked around with this message at 07:21 on May 7, 2012 |
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run DNC posted:Ro  Could it be?!
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El Hefe posted:HBO is giving a giant gently caress you to GRRM this season. Definitely yes, and I feel so conflicted about it because while I usually love Gurm being hosed with, I totally hate the ham-handed and incompetent way a lot of this season is being handled.
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I have no idea what was in the original books now, what was changed, or what is new. I think I'm okay with that, since I'm not going to reread this any time soon. We also got to see nyphadora tonks' naked body, answering the question of how she got remus lupin to go straight and forget about ~sirius~ Edit: Don't know if I like what they are going to do with Ramsay though, apparently thats all being redone. bigmcgaffney fucked around with this message at 09:09 on May 7, 2012 |
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Yep, she was pretty loving hot. Also, I swear they used the same actor for the High Septon and the dude on the long speal to Dany. Too lazy to go check however.
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EatDirt posted:Yep, she was pretty loving hot.  I got the same vibe, chubby rich guys all look the same.
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savinhill posted:Definitely yes, and I feel so conflicted about it because while I usually love Gurm being hosed with, I totally hate the ham-handed and incompetent way a lot of this season is being handled. ok so for those of us what don't follow the show what happened?
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V. Illych L. posted:ok so for those of us what don't follow the show what happened? The changes aren't that big of a deal really. • Sansa nearly gets raped in place of Lollys getting raped. Sandor saves her. • Rodrik dies earlier, at the hand of Theon instead of Ramsay. • Dany's dragons get stolen in Qarth, probably by warlocks, so she has to go to the House of the Undying to get them back - giving her an actual reason to go there and burn it down, unlike in the book where she does it just because.
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Hedrigall posted:• Rodrik dies earlier, at the hand of Theon instead of Ramsay. Wonder if it means they get rid of Ramsay Bolton and just use Roose for all the dick flaying instead.
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May 7, 2012 12:10
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As long as someone is getting their dick flayed I suppose I should be thankful.
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Contra Calculus posted:Well most likely the characters on 30 Rock are the type of people who wouldn't read fantasy books written by a goon. Well, It was Tracy's friend Grizz. He and Dotcom are strange (for that show).
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canepazzo posted:Wonder if it means they get rid of Ramsay Bolton and just use Roose for all the dick flaying instead. No, Roose asked Robb if he could send Ramsay to take Winterfell back from the iron men so he's definitely in.
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