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redreader posted:Just level up a lot. It's pretty much the solution to everything (so far, am in December I think) That or change your party makeup/demon setup/equipment to block the stuff that's loving you up. Edit: That sounds a lot like me going "well just don't die" but your party makeup is a lot more important than leveling up. If you ARE grinding levels, it should be with the specific goal of getting access to a new fusion or skill.
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redreader posted:Just level up a lot. It's pretty much the solution to everything (so far, am in December I think) Also, status effects! Charm (Marin Karin, Sexy Dance) and panic (Pulinpa, Tentarafoo) will render the enemies helpless. My favorite is to cast Sexy Dance.
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May 7, 2012 01:49
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Just remember to have the matching ailment boost or your accuracy with status spells is crap (Just look at Mitsuru's success rate with Marin Karin.)
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May 7, 2012 01:53
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Kinda confused by something at the end of Persona 4. It seems like it's impossible to leave the last dungeon, but if it's also impossible to open it until the final day and items don't carry over into NG+, why are all the enemies still dropping materials? Is there something I'm missing, or are they just useless?
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May 7, 2012 03:13
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Zombies' Downfall posted:Kinda confused by something at the end of Persona 4. So you can sell them for money to buy more items I guess.
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May 7, 2012 03:17
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Zombies' Downfall posted:Kinda confused by something at the end of Persona 4. You can leave to go shopping for items and make new weapons.
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May 7, 2012 03:19
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Cool, I hadn't actually tried to leave the TV world on the final day yet because I just assumed it wouldn't let me or would give me a bad ending. Thanks!
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May 7, 2012 03:20
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Reminds me how I accidentally did the true ending boss fight under leveled so I to exploit the fact that those plant babies in Adachi's dungeons keep spawning. I left my game on rush for 3 hours and made enough to buy 40 maka leaves, I had to use every single one to survive the boss.
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Catalina posted:Also, status effects! Charm (Marin Karin, Sexy Dance) and panic (Pulinpa, Tentarafoo) will render the enemies helpless. My favorite is to cast Sexy Dance. This was the key for me with SMT/Persona games. I tried SJ like a big dumb dinosaur and probably lost an extra 30 hours of my life. P3P does not have to be grindy. I leveled way too much and the last section enemies were running from me. It's not much fun to bulldoze the last few hours.
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Welp, i finally beat DS2! That final boss was a lot easier than i expected, though that was probably because i followed a guide's advice and fused a bunch of demons that either nulled, drained or reflected phys, rendering the third part a cakewalk. Pretty satisfied with the ending, if only because you finally got to see the MC with his ridiculous bunny-hood up. (also because Yamato owns and it was totally worth following him) Although i'm probably gonna do a new game+ in order to get the Daichi+ ending. All in all, i'm really surprised at how good the game was, and it's definitely secured a place in my top 3 SMTs.
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Technique posted:Welp, i finally beat DS2! That final boss was a lot easier than i expected, though that was probably because i followed a guide's advice and fused a bunch of demons that either nulled, drained or reflected phys, rendering the third part a cakewalk. Pretty satisfied with the ending, if only because you finally got to see the MC with his ridiculous bunny-hood up. (also because Yamato owns and it was totally worth following him) Although i'm probably gonna do a new game+ in order to get the Daichi+ ending. Huh. It's always interesting to see what people pick. Yamato is one of those guys where I always feel like nobody would follow him, so it's neat to see that, yep, someone considers him a legitimate and even the best choice.
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ImpAtom posted:Huh. It's always interesting to see what people pick. Yamato is one of those guys where I always feel like nobody would follow him, so it's neat to see that, yep, someone considers him a legitimate and even the best choice. I'm still not sure if he was the "best" choice, but i could certainly see the advantages of his world, although i didn't really agree with all of it. It was still a little bit too extreme. But he was a badass enough dude for me to choose him, (second best character in the game, right after Jungo) and i got to see Ronaldo get punted off a bridge, so it was totally worth it.
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Technique posted:Welp, i finally beat DS2! That final boss was a lot easier than i expected, though that was probably because i followed a guide's advice and fused a bunch of demons that either nulled, drained or reflected phys, rendering the third part a cakewalk. Pretty satisfied with the ending, if only because you finally got to see the MC with his ridiculous bunny-hood up. (also because Yamato owns and it was totally worth following him) Although i'm probably gonna do a new game+ in order to get the Daichi+ ending. For pure fun I would put DS2 in my top 3 easily. I went Daichi's path first then Yamato's. The Anguished One also has a great path that is worth following. Ronaldo was last for me.
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redreader posted:Just level up a lot. It's pretty much the solution to everything (so far, am in December I think) Honestly, probably the wrong decision, especially if you're in december. For the persona games the best or only solution is rarely 'grind up levels', but usually start to reconsider your persona line up or recall that (de)buffs and status effects are amazing, in fact I believe that (de)buffs are something like +/-40% for attack and defense which is pretty absurd. And once you're in December (really earlier, but you're more limited then because of level) your SLinks should be so high that you should be able to fuse some god-killing machines. But yeah the games actually do a fairly solid job at making sure you're about the level it wants you to be when you get to new blocks and bosses.
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Yeah, usually something that hits hard and/or has no weakness and a lot of hp is cripplingly weak to status ailments.
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Christ, barely past the first day on my NG+ and i already hate the female Tico. She's rilly annoying.
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Technique posted:Christ, barely past the first day on my NG+ and i already hate the female Tico. She's rilly annoying. Hahaha I knew I had made the wrong decision in my NG+ run when even the narration described her as "something entirely annoying is on your screen" or something to that effect.
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Syrg Sapphire posted:Hahaha I knew I had made the wrong decision in my NG+ run when even the narration described her as "something entirely annoying is on your screen" or something to that effect. The exact line is burned into my memory as a record of my grave error: "The presence on your screen is almost insufferable".
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I missed how the laplace mail would get more and more screwed up day after day. Also the male tico looks like Theo, which is probably what they were going for?
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Something occured to me: P3 still (august) hasn't given me a reason to climb the tartarus (Well, level grinding I guess, but otherwise). From reading stuff I know I should probably get to the roadblock before each full moon, but other than that, your only incentive is characters saying "Hey, maybe we should go to the tartarus?" every once in a while. What does happen if you don't do any progress?
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RichterIX posted:That or change your party makeup/demon setup/equipment to block the stuff that's loving you up. The arcane turrets are not weak to anything as far as I remember, and I used to fear them but at my current level I just destroy them. Normally it's all "make sure you use the right spell" but those guys just have shitloads of hitpoints. Just don't die? Pretty much... just make sure you save your progress while you are grinding, or grind on floors without these bad guys. Everyone dies every now and then.
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Zombies' Downfall posted:Honestly I agree with some goon who posted about it a while back that the ideal way to play those games would probably be to start with Eternal Punishment, play up to Mt. Iwato, then pick up and play all the way through Innocent Sin, then go back to finish EP. Provided you were motivated to play through both as one epic enterprise without taking a huge break that caused you to lose the thread or w/e. That was probably me; I still think that is the best way to do it even if there's almost no way to know that before playing either game. Concerning IS's grindiness I think playing the main game I bought maybe one non-story persona so I had access to fusion spells that required garu and I think another since I really wanted to see what Arthur played like. It's really only as grindy as you make it and it honestly pretty easy for a game in the SMT series. It could just be a decade of time but I remember EP being a lot harder and requiring more fusion spells and Personas. You don't get the customs for your entire group which definitely gives the starters less of a shelf life. In regards to DS2 do you get anything from 100%ing the achievements? I just went through the last ending I needed, thought I beat it with no deaths but must have had a demon die sometime and not noticed since I missed out on that one. On the topic of Tico I liked her just because something about her eyes and demeanor felt incredibly creepy which is what I would expect a website designed to casually tell you when your friends are going to die and how to be.
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Amppelix posted:Something occured to me: P3 still (august) hasn't given me a reason to climb the tartarus (Well, level grinding I guess, but otherwise). From reading stuff I know I should probably get to the roadblock before each full moon, but other than that, your only incentive is characters saying "Hey, maybe we should go to the tartarus?" every once in a while. What does happen if you don't do any progress? The Tartarus bosses are there to make sure you're ready to face the coming Arcana boss at the next full moon, and to make sure you're levelled up enough. You don't have to go up floors, but the final boss of the game is at the top of the tower, so you'll end up having to do it all at once. Which doesn't sound fun! If you're playing P3Portable, there are people from the city who get trapped in Tartarus and must be found before the full moon. Two of them are S. Links, who become lost forever if not rescued.
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Not sure if it's been posted, but I noticed that Persona 4: The Golden is now available for preorder on Amazon. I know Atlus sent out that e-mail a while back, but the only option then was that canadian retailer.
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Radish posted:In regards to DS2 do you get anything from 100%ing the achievements? I just went through the last ending I needed, thought I beat it with no deaths but must have had a demon die sometime and not noticed since I missed out on that one. On the topic of Tico I liked her just because something about her eyes and demeanor felt incredibly creepy which is what I would expect a website designed to casually tell you when your friends are going to die and how to be. You definitely don't lose that award for a demon dying, FYI: you only have to keep the team leaders alive. But there's no reward for getting 100% of the awards anyway.
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Justice posted:The Tartarus bosses are there to make sure you're ready to face the coming Arcana boss at the next full moon, and to make sure you're levelled up enough. You don't have to go up floors, but the final boss of the game is at the top of the tower, so you'll end up having to do it all at once. Which doesn't sound fun! When do those people get trapped? I've already gotten to the first 2 blocks.
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Elizabeth will call you when it happens.
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Lucinice posted:When do those people get trapped? I've already gotten to the first 2 blocks. Elizabeth will alert you, and give you hints as to where they are (usually a floor number). Just make sure you search that whole floor(s) and you'll find them. 
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It suddenly dawned on me that pretty much all the demon tamers in DS2 became demon tamers simply because they signed up for a snuff film site. Really puts some party members in a new light.
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Technique posted:It suddenly dawned on me that pretty much all the demon tamers in DS2 became demon tamers simply because they signed up for a snuff film site. Most of your guys are JPs and they just used the data you got. They had their own demon summoning program beforehand it was just crappier. Joe is indeed a snuff film fanatic tho'.
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Policenaut posted:Famitsu talks Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 If that turns out to be true, I'll be happy!
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Policenaut posted:possible new music style for 5. Thank God.
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Oh man, what will they go with? Funk rock or funk rock?
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Justice posted:Oh man, what will they go with? Funk rock or funk rock? They'll just hire people who actually understand English to write the lyrics and perform the vocals.
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That's one thing we can count on, for Atlus to make a game focused on the western audience.
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quote:Meguro says something to the effect of, if there's a Persona 5, and it is radically different from Persona 3 and Persona 4, he'd also change the music. This is about the least newsworthy thing a person could say.
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TurnipFritter posted:They'll just hire people who actually understand English to write the lyrics and perform the vocals. The only one I'd say that was really bad was the second Persona 4 anime opening. the others were just kinda silly. although the 2nd opening was really funny so maybe they should just continue to make the english terrible.
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Cityinthesea posted:The only one I'd say that was really bad was the second Persona 4 anime opening. the others were just kinda silly. I think there's a certain charm to it. Then again, I have Persona music in playlists that I listen to on a daily basis and can't get enough of the stuff. I honestly don't think I'd like it as much if it were clearly native English speakers writing and singing the songs. No more "All the homo men can now break away!" lines. Talking about a Persona 5 being different from Persona 3 and 4 has me a little worried. I couldn't stand Persona 2, so I'd rather they stick to the format of 3 and 4.
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