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I'm still not sure what racist Brazilian stereotypes Blanka is fulfilling, unless I missed the one about them being big green people with ginger hair. At least Zangief being a Russian bear-wrestler who loves the motherland jumps right in with the stereotypical view of Russians.
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chumbler posted:Changing the topic to something interesting instead of another hundred posts making GBS threads on Capcom for the hundredth time, I finally got around to picking up VOOT last night. And I am not convinced that game was designed to be played by human beings. I mean they really tried, the controls are simple, responsive, and the default layout is probably the best they could have made. The graphics are clear and bright, and the sound is good. But you have to be some sort of machine to both process everything that is going on and be mechanically precise enough to do the rapid, simultaneous button presses the game demands. I know that sounds awfully "Finger puzzles!", but it really felt like the dexterity required for playing it on the pad was far beyond anything any other game takes. I can easily see why people like the game, but mother of god it is impossible to play. I typically master games the first day I play them and despise any sort of challenge. thanks for warning me about this one, I'll steer clear.
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May 9, 2012 16:17
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You don't need to play to stereotypes to be racist - but it's off when, at least in Street Fighter 2; everyone poses as a 'representation' of their country, embracing some stereotypes in the process, and the one from Brazil is a mutant savage. Well no poo poo people from Brazil aren't mutant savages, but putting a design like that in that role is... suspect. But I have no intention of turning this into a full-blown minority perspectives thread v3; so if you don't see it that way that's fine; I'm just sayin'.
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May 9, 2012 16:17
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Boxman posted:I always felt like the US got left out of the crazy racism train for a while. Boxer being going from Mike Tyson clone to total cross-eyed doofus doesn't seem racist? Though in fairness, Tyson IS a doofus.
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May 9, 2012 17:17
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Zand posted:I typically master games the first day I play them and despise any sort of challenge. thanks for warning me about this one, I'll steer clear. dammit zand
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May 9, 2012 17:20
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KidVicious posted:Boxer being going from Mike Tyson clone to total cross-eyed doofus doesn't seem racist? He's not really an American stereotype so much as a racial one.
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May 9, 2012 17:21
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If you think Blanka is racist, you're nuts. He is an unfair stereotype of non-existant fictional electric green skinned Brazilians that do not exist in real life at all and no one ever though they did. I'm not sure if you can have racial stereotypes of races that don't even exist. In fact, I don't think Blanka is even a race, there's just one of him. In fact, he's one of the few SF2 characters who isn't a stereotype. GET IN THE ROBOT fucked around with this message at 17:41 on May 9, 2012 |
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May 9, 2012 17:29
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Holy poo poo this thread went downhill fast. Out of curiosity: 1) Are you going to EVO? 2) Which official games are you entering? 3) Which F-EVO tournaments are you entering? 4) Assuming they exist, which side tournaments are you entering?
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May 9, 2012 17:33
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Question Mark Mound posted:So if you want a green mutant character, what country would it not be racist to make him come from? Chernobyl, Russia?
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May 9, 2012 17:35
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interrodactyl posted:Holy poo poo this thread went downhill fast. 1. Going 2. SFxT and SF4 and I am filled with regret 3. I don't know what this is? 4. SKULLGIRLS and super turbo
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May 9, 2012 17:40
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Wow, $50 to watch the finals? I hadn't planned on entering any tournaments so that sucks.
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May 9, 2012 17:46
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More like $50 to enter the Skullgirls side tournament. Tom ¢annon
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May 9, 2012 17:59
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ZerodotJander posted:Wow, $50 to watch the finals? I hadn't planned on entering any tournaments so that sucks. Whats wrong with you son
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May 9, 2012 18:02
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Lone Goat posted:Chernobyl, Russia? US - Three Mile Island?
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May 9, 2012 18:09
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Gammatron 64 posted:If you think Blanka is racist, you're nuts. He is an unfair stereotype of non-existant fictional electric green skinned Brazilians that do not exist in real life at all and no one ever though they did. I'm not sure if you can have racial stereotypes of races that don't even exist. In fact, I don't think Blanka is even a race, there's just one of him. Hey, I'm a green-skinned electric Brazilian. I don't know, I HATE Blanka, but it's for in-game reasons and I can't say I find it racist. On the other hand, it was designed on the misconception that Brazil is all jungles and wild animals, plus that was done in an incredibly lazy way, so eh...Blanka's stupid. Sean ain't much better, because he's an American transposed to Brazil. Basketball? Get out of here, son. He's cool tho. I guess what I mean is Eddy Gordo, stupid last name aside, it's the coolest Brazilian in fighting games. And it fits the reality, that all of us are goddamn mashers. I hated when they took him out of Tekken and put in Christie, mostly because that also meant TIGER JACKSON was out. Speaking about Brazil, I'm pretty sure only three dudes from here or so will be going to EVO. We really, really need to work on tournaments that give plane tickets/boarding as prizes because everyone is goddamn broke or working like dogs come June. TOM CANNON give us some money please
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May 9, 2012 18:34
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Lone Goat posted:Chernobyl, Russia? Wow, stop being racist. Chernobyl is in Ukraine.
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May 9, 2012 18:41
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Whoh, I missed out on the EXVS chat? To keep things short, I played GvGNEXT in arcades, I like that more than EXVS (there's no Shining Gundam in EXVS). Melee is kinda weak in EXVS unless your name is Master Gundam. Not sure there's been any balance patches though
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May 9, 2012 18:46
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Jmcrofts posted:3. I don't know what this is? http://f-evo2k.com/ EDIT: asking again 1) Are you going to EVO? 2) Which official games are you entering? 3) Which F-EVO tournaments are you entering? 4) Assuming they exist, which side tournaments are you entering?
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May 9, 2012 18:50
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I just traded in my copy of SFxT for Catherine. It feels like a great weight has been lifted from my shoulders.
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May 9, 2012 18:59
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Electric Crayon posted:I just traded in my copy of SFxT for Catherine. It feels like a great weight has been lifted from my shoulders. That's the superior fighting game anyway.
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May 9, 2012 19:04
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Dias posted:Hey, I'm a green-skinned electric Brazilian. Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. I concede on using 'racist'; it wasn't the best way of expressing what I was getting at. 'Uncharacteristic', maybe.
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May 9, 2012 19:17
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dangerdoom volvo posted:Whats wrong with you son I don't have the time or interest to practice getting better at video games and I actually barely play games at all any more, but I still like watching good players go at it in a variety of games. I'm going to Evo more to enjoy a weekend in Vegas with friends from around the country than anything else.
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May 9, 2012 19:33
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Zero000 posted:Melee is kinda weak in EXVS unless your name is Master Gundam. Or Quanta or Full Cloth. I agree though in general there are fewer strong melee options in EXVS than there were in Next. I played Deathscythe in Next but couldn't get used to him in EXVS so I've mostly switched between Destiny, IJ, and X-1. That said, God Gundam in EXVS is about as fun as Shining was in Next IMO. Annnd: interrodactyl posted:http://f-evo2k.com/ 1. Yes 2. AE and KoF13 3. ST, Skullgirls, MAYBE EXVS (if I have a partner) 4. Vsav rivals fucked around with this message at 19:58 on May 9, 2012 |
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May 9, 2012 19:56
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interrodactyl posted:1) Are you going to EVO? 1) Yes 2) UMvC3 and KOF13 (for the shirt) 3) None I'd rather just spend time playing money matches and casuals 4) Ditto.
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May 9, 2012 20:02
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ZerodotJander posted:I don't have the time or interest to practice getting better at video games and I actually barely play games at all any more, but I still like watching good players go at it in a variety of games. I'm going to Evo more to enjoy a weekend in Vegas with friends from around the country than anything else. Good news! Spectating passes are now $10. http://shoryuken.com/2012/05/09/evo-spectator-passes-price-reduced-to-10/
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May 9, 2012 20:14
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interrodactyl posted:Holy poo poo this thread went downhill fast. 2) Just Mortal Kombat 9. 3) Skullgirls. 4) Hm, can't really imagine anything else they'd be running that I'd be interested in.
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May 9, 2012 20:24
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Six Of Spades posted:A few ways. From a country with other characters so he's not the sole representation; from Dictator's made up country, from '???'... This is loving ridiculous. Countryshaming via Mutant in Video Game Offends Me.
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May 9, 2012 20:48
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I don't see what's so stereotypical about Ken. Do other countries stereotype Americans as blonde karate masters?
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May 9, 2012 20:52
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Cicero posted:I don't see what's so stereotypical about Ken. Do other countries stereotype Americans as blonde karate masters? Paul from Tekken is another American karate master. America is the 2nd most karatiest country in the world.
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May 9, 2012 21:21
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Cicero posted:I don't see what's so stereotypical about Ken. Do other countries stereotype Americans as blonde karate masters? Back in the 80's there were many american martial arts master action movies made, many of which did star dudes with blonde hair that look similar to ken.
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May 9, 2012 21:33
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I dunno. The game's called Street Fighter 2: The World Warriors and everyone is supposed to represent their own country. For better or worse there are a lot of stereotypes. I don't think it's a big deal if the character is not very stereotypical. Ryu, Ken, Blanka, Claw, Sagat, Cammy, M. Bison, and to an extent Fei Long aren't stereotypical. Fei Long is pretty much Bruce Lee. None of these characters' negative traits are really offensive. I mean, you can associate green jungle people with Brazil as much as you can associate vanity with Spain. Zangief, Dhalsim, Guile, E. Honda, Boxer, T Hawk, and D Jay are all very stereotypical. That's kind of offensive right there. But then there are the generally terrible traits associated with some of these guys. I don't know about T Hawk and D Jay but I do know that Guile and Sim are two of the good guys. Gief and Boxer being bad guys is interesting (though Gief is mega lovable now that he's not a commie). Boxer is much more offensive because he's not really developed at all as a character (as opposed to a stereotype). I am unsure if Dudley fixes this. I'm a little torn on Chun Li. Chun's got a very Chinese hairdo, but I don't know if her dress is Chinese. Otherwise she was some pretty unique traits - thunder thighs and strongest woman. Both of those traits can be seen as positives (if you want to question thunder thighs as a positive, ask Hyung Tae Kim). I thought this post would point out that everyone in this game is a stereotype. Ironically, this did not turn out to be the case. Less than half the cast is a stereotype!
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May 9, 2012 21:39
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All of the SF2 people are stereotypes and that's why the game owns. For Christ's sake, the original SF2 manual said that Dhalsim's fire breath was from EATING SPICY CURRY.
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May 9, 2012 21:44
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Electric Crayon posted:All of the SF2 people are stereotypes and that's why the game owns. For Christ's sake, the original SF2 manual said that Dhalsim's fire breath was from EATING SPICY CURRY. I think it was a blunt and ignorant attempt to market it with something people are "familiar" with and also it came from Japan.
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May 9, 2012 21:46
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Why did they make Evil Ryu? Dan's way more likely to go for that kind of deal.
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May 9, 2012 21:59
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dane cook torrent posted:VD = Johnny Cage then I guess? Pretty much exactly that.
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May 9, 2012 22:15
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Question Mark Mound posted:I'm still not sure what racist Brazilian stereotypes Blanka is fulfilling, unless I missed the one about them being big green people with ginger hair. I'm pretty sure Blanka's not even from Brazil, considering his real name is Jimmy and he was lost in a plane crash or something.
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May 9, 2012 22:17
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I don't know how you can say Fei Long isn't a stereotype because he's Bruce Lee in the same post where you're saying Boxer is an offensive stereotype when he's Mike Tyson
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blowingupcasinos posted:I dunno. The game's called Street Fighter 2: The World Warriors and everyone is supposed to represent their own country. For better or worse there are a lot of stereotypes. I don't think it's a big deal if the character is not very stereotypical. T. Hawk, Dee Jay and Zangief are all good guys. The only bad guys in SF2 are the four bosses, and they recent retconned Sagat into a good guy too.
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You guys understand the reason the minority video games thread was closed down was that by the end of it it's head was somewhere between it's cecum and it's ileum?
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