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Hark, a job! https://sjobs.brassring.com/1033/as...G1XAx5aDupTjgiQ quote:Hi all,
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Boosted_C5 posted:Probably just stick to Chapter 7. Sticking to chapter 7 is definitely the way to start, as 13's are a god drat mystery in comparison. It can dovetail with finding a mentor type bankruptcy attorney in your area. They answer your chapter 7 questions, and you send them your messy cases. I'm in the Eastern District of VA, and you'll be Western. woozle wuzzle fucked around with this message at 19:32 on May 7, 2012 |
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prussian advisor posted:This continues to puzzle me. Why become a prosecutor if you don't want to take cases to trial? Also, quite frankly where I last worked the number of cases set for trial any one week would take a month to try (in large part because a certain DA had terrible deals). That basically means that a majority will have to be dismissed that day. nm fucked around with this message at 19:58 on May 7, 2012 |
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woozle wuzzle posted:Sticking to chapter 7 is definitely the way to start, as 13's are a god drat mystery in comparison. Also, never ever ever file a chapter 11 if you don't know what you are doing. Chapter 11's are crazy complex.
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I'm an over-represented minority. Should I decline to report my race on the LSAC website? Also I'm planning on writing the LSAT in October 2012, so I'm putting together a reading list. Will the 3 Powerscore Bibles (LG, LR and RC, published 2008, 2009 and 2010 respectively - still relevant?) plus some LSAC preptests provide a good enough background? I got a 168 on the 2007 LSAT from the LSAC website with 30 minutes per section so a course seems like it would be a waste of money. The OP recommends Powerscore but it was written many moons ago so I figured I'd test the current waters. Good luck to everyone who still has finals!
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# ? May 7, 2012 20:07 |
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Asian? I'm not sure that is actually over represented in law school, but I don't know stats.
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Jewish. Pretty sure I'm over-represented. The first part was just me being facetious, I'm more concerned with the books part of my post.
WaveLength fucked around with this message at 20:29 on May 7, 2012 |
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Just finished law school! School's out forever! until bar study starts in two weeks
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# ? May 7, 2012 20:26 |
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MechaFrogzilla posted:Just finished law school! School's out forever! until bar study starts in two weeks Studying for the bar is really a hilarious prank on graduates thinking they're "done".
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Kalman posted:And even if you want to take cases to trial, it probably isn't practical to take all of them to trial, just from a time perspective - you may want to take cases to trial but if you have three times as many cases as you can deal with, you're going to need to find some non-trial way to dispose of some of them. I'm talking about people who are legitimately trial averse, and take extraordinary steps to do as few as possible (ideally none) and are surprisingly common in prosecutor and public defender's offices. Few of them have judicial ambitions, at least that aren't buried deeply enough to effect their decision makin process, and prosecution doesn't pay well enough at the entry level for it to be much of a draw, though it's certainly not the worst. Status kind of makes sense I guess, but people can have mixed reactions to it. I just find it odd that so many fundamentally trial- and conflict-averse people are drawn to state criminal practice when it's probably the most trial heavy and contentious field of law that exists in the US.
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Stop posted:Those books will be fine. 2007 LSAT doesn't have the dinosaur logic games but it's still recent enough to be relevant. I took my LSAT in 2010 so things might have changed, but just buy/take every test from 2006-2012 and you'll be fine. Hahaha, are the dinosaur games from June 09 that notorious? They were on my actual test.
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prussian advisor posted:I'm talking about people who are legitimately trial averse, and take extraordinary steps to do as few as possible (ideally none) and are surprisingly common in prosecutor and public defender's offices. Few of them have judicial ambitions, at least that aren't buried deeply enough to effect their decision makin process, and prosecution doesn't pay well enough at the entry level for it to be much of a draw, though it's certainly not the worst. Status kind of makes sense I guess, but people can have mixed reactions to it. I just find it odd that so many fundamentally trial- and conflict-averse people are drawn to state criminal practice when it's probably the most trial heavy and contentious field of law that exists in the US. Plus the only think ex-DAs and PDs will get hired for is litigation.
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The Warszawa posted:Hahaha, are the dinosaur games from June 09 that notorious? They were on my actual test. It's not that they were notorious. If I remember correctly, that game was the first live use of a new gametype.
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The Warszawa posted:Hahaha, are the dinosaur games from June 09 that notorious? They were on my actual test. I remember people my college year bitching endlessly about it. Mauve dinosaurs.
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Chocolate Milk posted:Congrats! I'm kinda jealous, going straight into a law firm. Congrats on the grad spot! mutism fucked around with this message at 22:17 on May 7, 2012 |
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nm posted:Burnout and/or pressure to keep a 98% conviction rate Do any offices actually do poo poo like this? I've literally never encountered this, and it seems like it would be ridiculous and almost impossible to enforce. Like what's a conviction for these purposes? Giving the case away with a really low deal? Pleading it out to lesser amended charges? Do you count appellate results? If so do you count IAOC since its not the prosecutors fault? I can't see how you could measure "conviction rates" in a meaningful way. Plus some cases just need to be dropped, period, from an ethical perspective. Recognizing and dropping those cases is as much a factor in being an effective prosecutor as anything else.
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I'm solidly averaging 65% correct (which would extrapolate to a 130 RAW score) on practice MBE questions (Doing mini quizzes of 20-30 Qs). I'm happy that I'm getting passing scores, but I really want to improve so I have room to tank state essays. It's just so hard to make myself read outlines. I miss school and just winging it.
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WaveLength posted:
Depending on how your scoring went, I'd consider just getting the logic games bible and dumping the rest of the money on tests. I only bought three books, the LG bible and the two most recent collections of tests. I used those to self study from a 169 diagnostic to a 176 actual, so I don't think you should need much more than those. Also, the mauve dinosaurs were fun! I don't understand what the issue was!
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Boosted_C5 posted:I'm solidly averaging 65% correct (which would extrapolate to a 130 RAW score) on practice MBE questions (Doing mini quizzes of 20-30 Qs). Be careful not to burn out. I got over-fatigued on studying last time and ended up having to take the bar again. Conversely, isn't it a little early to be burning out? The bar's still in July, right?
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# ? May 8, 2012 02:05 |
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If you're going to study for three months straight for this thing, take the time to set yourself up for an awesome break afterwards. A big bar trip would be the best way to go, but just taking a bit of a break from anything even tangentially related to the law would be advisable.
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Solid Lizzie posted:Anyone know of where I can find canned briefs for Canadian cases? Hoping for something besides Wikipedia. Any particular topic?
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Zarkov Cortez posted:Any particular topic?
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I reeeeally don't like how clients are popping up in my facebook "people you may know" feed.
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:I reeeeally don't like how clients are popping up in my facebook "people you may know" feed. Isn't that based partially on people looking at your account?
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Isn't that based partially on people looking at your account? ReasonsI'mNotOnFacebook.txt
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Tucker Max says (paraphrased), "DON'T loving GO TO LAW SCHOOL! ... If you're in law school, drop out. Now." http://www.itsuptoyou.net/why-you-shouldnt-go-to-law-school/
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tau posted:Tucker Max says (paraphrased), "DON'T loving GO TO LAW SCHOOL! ... If you're in law school, drop out. Now." I actually read it before I applied to and matriculated in law school. And I had even met Tucker Max at a book signing, where he drunkenly autographed a book with an about fat chicks. I am not good at heeding advice. In unrelated news, I just unofficially passed the bar exam in Nevada so if I manage to go broke over the next 2 months I can start the job search or apply to be a PD or something.
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Unamuno posted:In unrelated news, I just unofficially passed the bar exam in Nevada so if I manage to go broke over the next 2 months I can Unemployed people are the real lucky duckies this month e: also, approve me on Twitter you scrub Adar fucked around with this message at 22:36 on May 9, 2012 |
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So I have a friend who has been accepted into a T6 school and until recently, sought a deferment for a year as they felt she may have wanted to take time off for work and travel. She was granted this deferment and has until Friday to decide to take it or not. Now she's freaking out on whether it's ultimately the right decision to defer or if she should just start school this fall. Some background tidbits: She has a stable job for at least this year (more if she wishes) She had general global travel plans for next year but is second guessing them. Was set on deferring until a visit to the school brought about some anticipation about starting Ultimately, she's not 100% sold on pursuing Law and just doesn't know if she wants to start down the path right now. However, she's extremely worried about wasting a year and ultimately not making the most of it. She's spoken to quite a few people but is having a hard time deciding and the pressure's getting to her. Does anyone have any general word of advice that I could potentially relay to her?
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iamsosmrt posted:Ultimately, she's not 100% sold on pursuing Law and just doesn't know if she wants to start down the path right now. However, she's extremely worried about wasting a year and ultimately not making the most of it. If she is unsure then she doesn't want to go.
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dude it's just a year, one extra year of loving life, making more money than you spend or owe, getting drunk, and not living under the oppressive reality that you could always have prepared for class a little better. You live 80 years, Chicago can wait until 2013.
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iamsosmrt posted:So I have a friend who has been accepted into a T6 school and until recently, sought a deferment for a year as they felt she may have wanted to take time off for work and travel. She was granted this deferment and has until Friday to decide to take it or not. Now she's freaking out on whether it's ultimately the right decision to defer or if she should just start school this fall. Like, if I could rewind the clock and retake the LSAT to get a better score so I could get into a T6 and then get a deferment, I would spend the year loving around as if I was on an extended summer vacation -- an easy job, low stress, the occasional run, snoozing on the beach... and so on. But now things just don't stop. It never stops. At worst, taking a year deferment from a T6 is bad only if you want to graduate with a JD in three years instead of four. So, basically, what she would be "wasting" by taking a year deferment is
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iamsosmrt posted:So I have a friend who has been accepted into a T6 school and until recently, sought a deferment for a year as they felt she may have wanted to take time off for work and travel. She was granted this deferment and has until Friday to decide to take it or not. Now she's freaking out on whether it's ultimately the right decision to defer or if she should just start school this fall. She might be able to defer for another year. I was able to defer for two years.
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Ok, there's a pretty clear trend here. I appreciate the input everyone. Thanks!
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Unamuno posted:In unrelated news, I just unofficially passed the bar exam in Nevada so if I manage to go broke over the next 2 months I can start the job search or apply to be a PD or something. How are PDs compensated? I found out a few weeks ago that here Legal Aid staff lawyers (not private bar defence on a legal aid certificate) get paid the same as the Crown. tau posted:Tucker Max says (paraphrased), "DON'T loving GO TO LAW SCHOOL! ... If you're in law school, drop out. Now." Skadden pays its 2nd year summer students in Toronto $3100/week Zarkov Cortez fucked around with this message at 05:01 on May 10, 2012 |
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Zarkov Cortez posted:How are PDs compensated? Clark county starts around $60k/yr which isn't bad given the fairly low COL. Less than most of California though (which is on par with DAs). Washoe county is lockstep with the DAs, don't know if all counties are. nm fucked around with this message at 04:42 on May 10, 2012 |
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Was finishing up work this evening when the fiance called. Her: "X invited us to dinner, want to go to his place?" Me: "Sure, what time?" Her: "Well, I just put a cake in the oven, so I'll be an hour late picking you up from work, will it be okay if you have to stick around there a while longer?" Me: "Yep, that way I can get some more work done." Two minutes later, in my head. "I just told my fiance I was glad she couldn't come say hello, so that I can stay late and get work done..."
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Took me three days to get halfway done with editing my last paper for school and I have the rest of tonight to do the other half. I'm confident I had the hardest, most pointless schedule of any 3L here.
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Is it reasonable to be a 2L and not give a gently caress about proper citations? Presently, I have citations like "Id. at GOD KNOWS" and my citations to a foreign court are basically their numbering system for cases, followed by "available at http://catindia.gov.in/Judgement.aspx" For what it's worth, the bluebook doesn't have poo poo for the Indian Cyber Appellate Tribunal. So if anyone is well-versed in Indian law, is there a more proper citation? And if you are, how do I best cite to an act that's been amended? The bluebook just gives guidelines for a primary act, but no help for amendments, and this stupid act is useless without the Amendment. Also, final papers for a class that are pretty much law review fodder suck. But I did manage to gin up 11 more pages tonight, after creating 17 or so on the 1st night I wrote the paper. 31 pages is fine if the requirement is "at least 20 pages," right? Still have to write the syllabus and conclusion, though.
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