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AXE COP posted:Nobody who wants nerfs ever considers it to be kneejerk but it still is the majority of the time. I don't know if six months can be considered 'old enough' either. If this were ten years ago and discovery were still limited to actually playing people, sure, but do you really see the game's meta shifting that much further? And it's not like Zero's one-touch kill nonsense is going to suddenly disappear just because someone discovers decent tech with, god only knows, Hsien-Ko? I'm not sure what unmined potential you think you're seeing. e: I guess maybe Chun?
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Speaking of undiscovered tech, did anyone ever find that tech Seth Killian kept preaching about with Jill?
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May 13, 2012 00:03
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a true artist suffers for his craft
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zero is about as hard to play as sentinel or morrigan, while also being better when you suck
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May 13, 2012 00:48
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Hey folks. I'm loving around with Ghost Rider and I know you can use Dormammu's Dark Hole assist to extend his combos, I'm just not sure where to put it. Also, any advice for a third slot? I'm messing about with Ghost/Dormammu/Chris but Chris doesn't have the best synergy.
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May 13, 2012 05:47
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Do whatever starter into QCB L, then call Dorm walk back a step and use heartless spire. You need to do it early in the combo because of hit stun decay, though. For a full example, I use GR/Dorm/Doom missles and my BNB is whatever xx QCB L, walk back a step and call Dorm, Heartless spire H,H xx SRK M, H + call Doom at the same time, H XX QCB H missles OTG, QCB L QCF L XX QCF super.
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quote:This is the easy mode everywhere Dante combo. Is this right? Because it doesn't seem like you can cancel off of 6H. If I cut out the bolded part then I can do the combo fine for the most part. Man doing Beehive (623M~623M) in vanilla sucks.
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Dante has a seemingly useless command jump called Bold Move, done by pressing L+S. The not-secret-anymore use of this move is that the prejump frames can be canceled into a special move. Look closer at the notation: f+H xx dp+L+S~M. Basically you're canceling Stinger into Bold Move, but also inputting Volcano (DP+M) at the same time so it looks like you're just getting f+H xx dp+M. Go youtube "dante bold cancel tutorial" and you'll get a shitload of video tutorials. also Shinsobeam, dude, use your spacebar when you're notating combos man. I feel like my eyeballs just roll off of those formless hunks of letters and numbers. Just putting a space between each comma would make a big difference. Sade fucked around with this message at 16:46 on May 13, 2012 |
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May 13, 2012 16:42
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Sade posted:In the time it took you to write this post, you could have watched the first few seconds of that video a few times and seen that it's j.L. If you don't hear the "bzzt" sound when it hits it's not j.M. The trick seems to be to do as many f+H foot dives as possible in the combo, and the way to do that is do do j.L > f+H instead of j.M. I did watch the video, but I was having such trouble connecting with j.L f+H ADDF that I had to double check with you guys just to see if I was missing anything or if it was just a matter of poor execution. Guess it was the latter!
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Sade posted:Dante has a seemingly useless command jump called Bold Move, done by pressing L+S. The not-secret-anymore use of this move is that the prejump frames can be canceled into a special move. Look closer at the notation: f+H xx dp+L+S~M. Basically you're canceling Stinger into Bold Move, but also inputting Volcano (DP+M) at the same time so it looks like you're just getting f+H xx dp+M. Go youtube "dante bold cancel tutorial" and you'll get a shitload of video tutorials. Oh, so you can do the command plus S and you'll bold cancel into it? That explains why I've been having so much trouble bold canceling to teleport.
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May 13, 2012 17:45
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darealkooky posted:zero is about as hard to play as sentinel or morrigan, while also being better when you suck Morrigan is much harder than either of them to play well.
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May 13, 2012 18:17
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People honestly underestimate the amount of thought ChrisG, Dieminion, etc. put into their spacing and execution when they play Morrigan. It looks, easy but it isn't.
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Cat Machine posted:People honestly underestimate the amount of thought ChrisG, Dieminion, etc. put into their spacing and execution when they play Morrigan. It looks, easy but it isn't. There were a couple of Morrigan scrubs in pools at Summer Slam and last week's Runback that made good examples of how Morrigan is tricky to play. I will leave any Wesker jokes as an exercise to the reader.
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Cat Machine posted:People honestly underestimate the amount of thought ChrisG, Dieminion, etc. put into their spacing and execution when they play Morrigan. It looks, easy but it isn't. They DO combos with her and her combos are not easy at all to do. Multiple flight cancels with Soul Fists in one combo is incredibly difficult.
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May 13, 2012 18:44
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Cat Machine posted:People honestly underestimate the amount of thought ChrisG, Dieminion, etc. put into their spacing and execution when they play Morrigan. It looks, easy but it isn't. I don't understand the widespread contempt for styles like that bullet hell ChrisG does (irritation I can understand, but not contempt). Even though it can fail pretty spectacularly, it's drat impressive to watch and it shows a level of control and timing that most players simply don't possess. The people who are so quick to knock it should try it first.
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Cat Machine posted:People honestly underestimate the amount of thought ChrisG, Dieminion, etc. put into their spacing and execution when they play Morrigan. It looks, easy but it isn't. I was implicating that people overestimate how hard zero is and underestimate how hard sentinel is (because 90% of people that play him still do day 1 poo poo), not that morrigan is easy or stupid or anything.
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May 13, 2012 19:17
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A little late but I would also be interested in another goon tourney.
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I have a little Spencer/Magneto question here that I would be most delighted if somebody could answer! Basically when I DHC from tempest into bionic maneuvers I can follow up with a tiger knee H grapple and then a down zip, armor piercer and another super.. we've all seen this many times, yadda yadda. This takes 3 bars. However it occured to me today that if I only have 2 bars it would be really advantageous for me to be able to obtain the version of the tiger knee H grapple that occurs when a wall bounce has already been used, because it's a much stronger mixup game after that (the opponent can't roll out of the corner and you get a nice meaty M) So my question is- is it possible to use a wallbounce at some point either before the DHC (via armour piercer assist for example? it doesn't seem to be compatible with hypergrav loop, though) or after the DHC (so convert the first tiger knee grapple into another knockdown and just do it again?) so that I can achieve the instant get-up state?
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With Spencer you can do a TK H grapple, late air S, land, H grapple, L follow-up for another knockdown. You can go from there either into another TK H grapple or into a TK Bionic Bomber for a ground bounce/H command grab reset attempt. Edit: Actually I should have read more closely, after a Magneto combo you may not be able to get it due to the scaling. Maybe with a down-zip and really tight timing. Mr. Fun fucked around with this message at 20:48 on May 13, 2012 |
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May 13, 2012 20:44
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Yeah, I think the solution is to do the 2 diagonal zips into H grapple, L followup but when I've been trying it they always seem to end up on the wrong side of me. I can't do S zip zip H grapple because once I touch them with an S they fall out immediately at 100 hits. Edit: managed to get it on the same side so they go into the corner but it's quite exact. Guess I need to grind it until I find the perfect height at which to do it. Blinn fucked around with this message at 22:41 on May 13, 2012 |
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May 13, 2012 21:08
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I would be interested in a goon tournament -- but not this week. I won't be able to play at all this week.
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May 13, 2012 23:50
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A goon tournament would be awesome. Especially if it's on PS3!
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May 14, 2012 14:39
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Who ran the tournament last time? I have wanted there to be a goon tournament or goonbats or something for a while but I do not want to run it.
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I'd be stoked to do a goon tournement, if it's PS3 and on a weekend. I don't think I've played a single one of you folks yet.
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May 14, 2012 17:48
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I'd totally be down for a PS3 tournament.
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Hey folks. I'm loving around with Ghost Rider and I know you can use Dormammu's Dark Hole assist to extend his combos, I'm just not sure where to put it. Also, any advice for a third slot? I'm messing about with Ghost/Dormammu/Chris but Chris doesn't have the best synergy. Go Ghost/Trish/Dorm! Oh, you got stuck in that trap? Good thing I can hit confirm from anywhere with Ghost Rider 
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May 14, 2012 18:08
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I'm also interested in a tournament (on the 360) now that my internet connection doesn't suck.
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May 14, 2012 19:07
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Down for a tournament on the 360 as well. Who was the person who organized it before? If they're preoccupied, I can go ahead and get this next tournament rolling.
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May 14, 2012 20:17
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Count me in for a PS3 tournament. =)
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May 14, 2012 20:49
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I'm down to play a PS3 tournament. I work this weekend though.
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May 14, 2012 21:03
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I'd play in a PS3 tourney even though Diablo will be out and I won't practice
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May 14, 2012 21:29
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I'm in for 360, I don't have a stick for my PS3.
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May 14, 2012 21:52
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I'll do the 360 tournament but I'm probably not gonna practice and I don't really play the game and I'm gonna be really drunk and I can't do any combos, also I play on a controller.
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May 14, 2012 21:53
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I'm down for PS3 but I want to get at least as drunk as this Spiderman guy so I'm going to need updates from the 360 tournament.
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I'd also sign on for a PS3 tourney, even though I play controller like Dr. Spiderman and I frequently get beaten by players who sound like they're twelve.
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May 14, 2012 23:17
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I'd be down for a PS3 tourney. Hopefully I can hold my own.
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I'd be down for a PS3 tournament to help someone warm up
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May 15, 2012 01:20
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Definitely down for a ps3 tourny. I'm a second lord rolling spencer/felicia/shuma.
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May 15, 2012 01:39
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5 million goons want to play tournament but 0 goons want to actually make one.
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Personal pet peeve: I just met what I think was my first lag switcher. Any time I'd get a zero or vergil combo going, it would be slow mo time. I still managed to win a lot; I just had to switch to easy mode baby combos. Also, dude couldnt seem to block exchanges during so I started abusing that. Was completely obvious. Blah, just wanted to rant. That actually made me salty even though I was winning.
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