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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Mazed posted:

Liefeld. Again.



:smith:

This thread could easily become drowned in this guy's stuff, but this single drawing pretty much exemplifies everything he does wrong, especially with female characters.
AhahahahahHA. Holy loving poo poo I think I laughed so hard I gave myself a hernia.

"She can never tie her own shoes"

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Dr Hemulen
Jan 25, 2003

I like how the forum software desperately tries to compress the timg to more normal proportions :D

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

HardCoil posted:

I like how the forum software desperately tries to compress the timg to more normal proportions :D

When even simple xhtml is desperately trying to fix your fuckup, you hosed up.

OldMemes
Sep 5, 2011

I have to go now. My planet needs me.

TwoPair posted:

Check this guy out in Ultimates #8:



You can just hear the BWWUUUUH?

Looks like a bald version of Brian Thompson to me.

Baron Bifford
May 24, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!
From Richard Dragon #3. Art by Scott McDaniel. This fight scene just comes of as an absurd clusterfuck that showcases what is right and wrong with Scott McDaniel.

Karma Tornado
Dec 21, 2007

The worst kind of tornado.

Baron Bifford posted:

From Richard Dragon #3. Art by Scott McDaniel. This fight scene just comes of as an absurd clusterfuck that showcases what is right and wrong with Scott McDaniel.



Nightwing's right leg is attached to his chest. Wow.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
Oh neat, this Night of Owls crossover is gonna have highly trained assassins fight the inmates of Arkham. This'll be pretty coo-WHOA!



poo poo, Aaron Cash, what'd Tony Daniel do to your face? From Detective Comics #9.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

TwoPair posted:

Oh neat, this Night of Owls crossover is gonna have highly trained assassins fight the inmates of Arkham. This'll be pretty coo-WHOA!



poo poo, Aaron Cash, what'd Tony Daniel do to your face? From Detective Comics #9.

Are those buck teeth?

Please tell me Tony Daniel did not draw a black man with buck teeth in 2012.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Sometimes I think artists base way too many characters based on that one NFL player (the dude with the messed up hand/thumb thing) and Laurence Fishburne, two "prominent" black men who have prominent front teeth with noticeable gaps in it.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

mind the walrus posted:

Sometimes I think artists base way too many characters based on that one NFL player (the dude with the messed up hand/thumb thing)

Michael Strahan. And the guy in that panel is pretty much an obvious redraw of Strahan's face.

Crisco Kid
Jan 14, 2008

Where does the wind come from that blows upon your face, that fans the pages of your book?

Rabbit Hill posted:

This is from Blade of the Immortal, written and drawn by Hiroaki Samura. It's a long series and the art has changed in style over the years (it's been going since 1994), but the artist is classically trained and it shows. His backgrounds and landscapes are always realistic, he's put a lot of historically accurate detail in the architecture and clothing, and his covers are badass.






Samura is one of my favorite comic artists of all time. If you look at his individual lines, they're much more loose and scratchy than the refined final product would lead you to believe. He has a great sense of light and shadow despite using a limited range of tones, his understanding of anatomy is excellent and put to good use, and he has one of the best eyes for panel layouts I've ever seen. He has a way with composition and lighting that makes each page's presentation creative without being gimmicky or distracting, same with his variety of panel shapes and bleeds. Nobody could ever accuse him of repetitive, boring layouts. It's pro as hell. Samura's been doing this for thousands of pages by now, and Blade of the Immortal still reads like a showcase in dynamic storytelling.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



After getting a tweet about Smith and Stokoe's new book I also got a tweet about the third volume of a French/Italian comic called Tenebres (Darkness) and between the two I'm having an art overload. The artist is IKO and this is his first work as far as I can tell.



Pretty much every page has at least one establishing shot just to give you a sense of presence.



Probably the coolest fleet setup I've seen in a sci-fi comic.

I don't know why no American publisher is jumping on this, it has everything the mainstream audience wants: great art, cool action scenes, and science fiction setting.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

al-azad posted:

After getting a tweet about Smith and Stokoe's new book I also got a tweet about the third volume of a French/Italian comic called Tenebres (Darkness) and between the two I'm having an art overload. The artist is IKO and this is his first work as far as I can tell.



Pretty much every page has at least one establishing shot just to give you a sense of presence.



Probably the coolest fleet setup I've seen in a sci-fi comic.

I don't know why no American publisher is jumping on this, it has everything the mainstream audience wants: great art, cool action scenes, and science fiction setting.

Well he certainly likes Moebius.

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌
It reminds me of The Metabarons with slightly less grimacing.

piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.



Just finished reading The Chimpanzee Complex and Jean-Michel Ponzio has a pretty interesting style




I remember when I was reading it thinking how weird it was that he was tracing photos or just using photos for the art but then I read that he doesn't even use photos for reference. When I went back to look I realized the faces aren't even that detailed, the lighting and style just kinda make it look more photorealistic. Now I just want to see him and Marazano make more and more sci-fi books because he really suits it.

Sad Mammal
Feb 5, 2008

You see me laughin
I'm convinced that Takehiko Inoue is one of the best comic artists working today. All of his stuff his top-notch and there's just something about the way he does faces that makes all of his work eye-popping to read. Here are some examples from Vagabond:







Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.



Sad Mammal posted:

I'm convinced that Takehiko Inoue is one of the best comic artists working today. All of his stuff his top-notch and there's just something about the way he does faces that makes all of his work eye-popping to read. Here are some examples from Vagabond:









Vagabond is one of the few comics I ever bought without reading. I picked the first volume up, flipped through and was absolutely stunned at how good the art was. It blew my mind that the art somehow got better as the series went on, too. Inoue's understanding of chiaroscuro and line weight is amazing.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
Wonder Woman #9 features this lovely artwork. Check out Zola here. No, she's not a shapeshifter, although I wouldn't blame you for assuming she is based on this page.



My favorite part is the last panel, where her neck just inflates. Man, that baby weight'll get you, huh?

al-azad
May 28, 2009



What a horrible layout. It's like whoever was in charge of layout took the completed art, printed the panels individually, then tried to paste them entirely on a tiny sheet of paper. I don't think I've ever seen censoring using overlapping panels before.

And Zola's supposed to be early twenties? She looks like 40 year old woman on Springer.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

al-azad posted:

And Zola's supposed to be early twenties? She looks like 40 year old woman on Springer.

Sharing a bed with Zeus can be hell on a lady's constitution. I assume the grey man is Hermes, based on the staff he's hauling?

Edit: Staff and messenger bag that I somehow just now noticed. Yep, that's Hermes.

Malachite_Dragon fucked around with this message at 09:51 on May 28, 2012

RandallODim
Dec 30, 2010

Another 1? Aww man...
Whoever that is, the best part of that whole page is him just walking off at the end. He looks so excited to be leaving, like the idea of getting away from these folks for a moment has just put a spring in his step.

Corky Kraptrucker
Oct 12, 2006
Being out of your box isn't a right. It's a privilege.
I don't think it's bad at all. It's expressive, pleasant, and not muddy as hell like a lot of DC's stuff is right now. The trick of not showing Aphrodite may make the panels cluttered, but it's clever. Also I'm pretty sure that blonde lady is supposed to look hell dorky there for comedic effect.

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



al-azad posted:

What a horrible layout. It's like whoever was in charge of layout took the completed art, printed the panels individually, then tried to paste them entirely on a tiny sheet of paper. I don't think I've ever seen censoring using overlapping panels before.

And Zola's supposed to be early twenties? She looks like 40 year old woman on Springer.

I saw it not so much as censoring Aphrodite's nakedness, but as a way out of "how can a human possibly draw the most beautiful goddess ever?" You can't, so Chiang does his little conceit there. I thought it was kinda clever, myself.

I'll grant that Zola's blowfish impression is kinda wonky, I noticed that on the first read.

Mazed
Oct 23, 2010

:blizz:


Unless you know there's supposed to be something "special" about the woman being covered, besides being OH MY GOD NAKED LADY, it just looks like a very awkward attempt at covering her up. Honestly, incidental foliage would look more natural than that.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Well I'm sure he expected people to actually read the book instead of just the one page out of context.

STEVIE B 4EVA
Nov 13, 2005

girl in the slayer jacket            i am searching for you

JacquelineDempsey posted:

I saw it not so much as censoring Aphrodite's nakedness, but as a way out of "how can a human possibly draw the most beautiful goddess ever?" You can't, so Chiang does his little conceit there. I thought it was kinda clever, myself.

i mean, i get it, but we see Aphrodite's abs, arms, legs, and shoulder-to-hip body shape, so in practice, it just comes across as censoring, because all "cleverness" is lost.

Jetfire
Apr 29, 2008

JacquelineDempsey posted:

I saw it not so much as censoring Aphrodite's nakedness, but as a way out of "how can a human possibly draw the most beautiful goddess ever?" You can't, so Chiang does his little conceit there. I thought it was kinda clever, myself.

I'll grant that Zola's blowfish impression is kinda wonky, I noticed that on the first read.

It's Tony Akins on the pencils rather than Chiang, which is part of the reason we're analyzing the page in this thread to begin with, imo. He's very expressive with characters' faces, but the style lends itself to weird results like Zola here.

JacquelineDempsey
Aug 6, 2008

Women's Circuit Bender Union Local 34



Jetfire posted:

It's Tony Akins on the pencils rather than Chiang,

:doh: Y'know, I knew that, wasn't thinking.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Vanderdeath posted:

Vagabond is one of the few comics I ever bought without reading. I picked the first volume up, flipped through and was absolutely stunned at how good the art was. It blew my mind that the art somehow got better as the series went on, too. Inoue's understanding of chiaroscuro and line weight is amazing.

What size are the American editions of Vagabond? I went looking for it on some shops here, but the Spanish and Argentinian editions were digest-size and I don't want to buy a book with art as good as that with those dimensions.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Vincent posted:

What size are the American editions of Vagabond? I went looking for it on some shops here, but the Spanish and Argentinian editions were digest-size and I don't want to buy a book with art as good as that with those dimensions.

Viz has been reprinting Vagabond in their VIZBIG format which is about 20% larger, contains three volumes in one, has some full color pages, better paper, and extras like character sketches. It's basically like getting a special edition of a graphic novel except they don't charge you out the rear end surprisingly.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


al-azad posted:

Viz has been reprinting Vagabond in their VIZBIG format which is about 20% larger, contains three volumes in one, has some full color pages, better paper, and extras like character sketches. It's basically like getting a special edition of a graphic novel except they don't charge you out the rear end surprisingly.

It actually works out cheaper when you compare regular releases to the collections. Regular volumes are $8-10 while the VIZBIG volumes (which like you said are 3 of the regular volumes) run between $15-20, depending on where you buy them.

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe
In panel 5/(6?) there is a coloring area, they didn't color her back between her arms.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Jago posted:

In panel 5/(6?) there is a coloring area, they didn't color her back between her arms.

I think that's just the gap between her arm and perfect hourglass figure.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

From the latest FF issue:



(thanks Happy Noodle Boy!)

Dyllyn
Mar 28, 2009

Greatness is always within Reach

Codependent Poster posted:

From the latest FF issue:



(thanks Happy Noodle Boy!)

The Black Derp?

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Did I miss it, or did no one post any Jamie Hewlett? I really love his linework, and he includes exactly the right amount of detail.



IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Ruin Completely posted:

Did I miss it, or did no one post any Jamie Hewlett? I really love his linework, and he includes exactly the right amount of detail.



Details like entire bullets being fired intact?

(I like him too, but I noticed it).

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

IUG posted:

Details like entire bullets being fired intact?

(I like him too, but I noticed it).

Crap, that's gonna bug me now. If I remember right, most of the gun designs in Tank Girl were pretty crazy and non-functional looking, so if you're less ignorant about gun stuff than I am prepare to be be annoyed if/when you read it.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

Guns firing or ejecting intact cartridges is practically a comic book staple at this point. I can understand Being off with designs because of unfamiliarity, or crazy outlandish gun designs, but the bullets thing is pretty terrible. It's really the simplest thing about a gun, a cartridge goes in, bullet goes out.

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piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.



Internet Wizard posted:

Guns firing or ejecting intact cartridges is practically a comic book staple at this point. I can understand Being off with designs because of unfamiliarity, or crazy outlandish gun designs, but the bullets thing is pretty terrible. It's really the simplest thing about a gun, a cartridge goes in, bullet goes out.

Without colour the bullets would probably look like toenails flying at her, especially if you're like most people and don't recognize the bottom part of the bullet as being expended when the gun is fired.

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