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Kraven Moorhed
Jan 5, 2006

So wrong, yet so right.

Soiled Meat
Stone IRS. :pcgaming:

I need more of this.

Edit: Oh, that's embarrassing. Here's some content: The 5-year-old bottle of Olde School Barleywine I had the other day was a bit of a mess. Not terrible by any means, but on a spectrum of fresh to five, I'd say two or three year was probably the best. But even at its best, Olde School gets beaten out by a good few others that put balance above bombiness. Makes me really glad I picked up a six of Old Horizontal to weather out the next year without it, and a 6 of Bigfoot. And a vertical 4pack of Monster Ale. And 5 bombers of various others.

:psyduck: Why the hell do I have so many barleywines?

Kraven Moorhed fucked around with this message at 06:34 on May 16, 2012

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Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
The raisin flavor kind of killed my liking of RIS by Stone. I'm not fond of the flavor I guess. Oh well more for others less for me.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
Then I'd certainly be a damned fool to feel any other way, wouldn't I?
Quebec breweries - anyone know anything about any of them besides Unibroue and Dieu Du Ciel? Saw a few from this year's world beer cup winner's list:

Le Brasseurs du Nord - gold for their honey beer
Microbrasserie Hopfenstark - silver for their saison
Brasseurs RJ - bronze for their Vienna lager

Going up there in the fall, Montreal and Quebec City and some time to drive around. Figured I'd try and hit some of their microbreweries. There seem to be a ton of them.

Had the newest Duck Rabbit brew last night, their Hoppy Bunny ABA. It's unique and delicious. Lots and lots of hop aroma, it was like tearing open a packet of hop pellets. Grassy hop flavor matched with some coffee undertones...was a little weird at first, but I really started to dig it after the first sip or two. Not super bitter, they must dry hop the hell out of it. They just launched last Friday, so I know the sixer I got is super fresh. It'll be interesting to see how it changes with some age and that aroma starts to drop off. Although I don't think the 5 I have left will last long enough to age much.

air-
Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Retemnav posted:

Quebec breweries - anyone know anything about any of them besides Unibroue and Dieu Du Ciel? Saw a few from this year's world beer cup winner's list:

Le Brasseurs du Nord - gold for their honey beer
Microbrasserie Hopfenstark - silver for their saison
Brasseurs RJ - bronze for their Vienna lager

Going up there in the fall, Montreal and Quebec City and some time to drive around. Figured I'd try and hit some of their microbreweries. There seem to be a ton of them.

Check out Le Bilboquet too. They have an interesting non traditional take on a wee heavy as it doesn't have that peaty character. The sweetness from the honey/caramel makes it more like a really complex old ale. The oatmeal stout is supposed to be good too.

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


Bud Light Lime-a-Rita is honestly delicious and tastes approximately like a Tom Collins in a can when poured over ice. I figure if you add a little gin it will be even better and closer to a TC. It's going to be my summer drink of choice, at least until something terrible happens (which is basically inevitable).

Mr. Glass
May 1, 2009

ShaneB posted:

Bud Light Lime-a-Rita is honestly delicious and tastes approximately like a Tom Collins in a can when poured over ice. I figure if you add a little gin it will be even better and closer to a TC. It's going to be my summer drink of choice, at least until something terrible happens (which is basically inevitable).

:frogout:

wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???

ShaneB posted:

Bud Light Lime-a-Rita is honestly delicious and tastes approximately like a Tom Collins in a can when poured over ice. I figure if you add a little gin it will be even better and closer to a TC. It's going to be my summer drink of choice, at least until something terrible happens (which is basically inevitable).

It happened, folks. His roommate killed him, drank all his top-shelf cellared brews, moved onto Limearitas, and is now posting from his account.

To that point though, my default 'it's hot as gently caress and I want alcohol in my pool' drink is sweet tea vodka + lemonade in a 32oz tumbler with crushed ice. I make no apologies, it's divine.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

wattershed posted:

It happened, folks. His roommate killed him, drank all his top-shelf cellared brews, moved onto Limearitas, and is now posting from his account.

To that point though, my default 'it's hot as gently caress and I want alcohol in my pool' drink is sweet tea vodka + lemonade in a 32oz tumbler with crushed ice. I make no apologies, it's divine.

Honestly, I think every beer has its place, even the big macro stuff. As I tell my friends, there's a big difference between a beer geek and a beer snob - I will happily drink most macros if offered to me (the only one I refuse is straight MGD; blecch).

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

crazyfish posted:

Honestly, I think every beer has its place, even the big macro stuff. As I tell my friends, there's a big difference between a beer geek and a beer snob - I will happily drink most macros if offered to me (the only one I refuse is straight MGD; blecch).

Bud Light for me.

My general opinion: I want something really good or really cheap (and good). It's the mid-tier stuff (Stella, Amstel, Heineken) that I never touch. Partially because I think Stroh's is simply a better beer than any of them, but also because if a place if going to charge $5 for a beer, I'd rather pay $2-$3 more for something that's much, much better or $2-$3 less for something that's as good.

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

Returning from six days in the Dominican Republic yesterday, I enjoyed two Brooklyn Summer's on the flight (big ups to Jet Blue) and they were the most delicious things I'd ever fuckin' had after nearly a week of Presidente. Presidente's a great all-inclusive resort pool/beach beer but gently caress it was refreshing to taste some hops and malt again.

Mr. Glass
May 1, 2009

crazyfish posted:

Honestly, I think every beer has its place, even the big macro stuff. As I tell my friends, there's a big difference between a beer geek and a beer snob - I will happily drink most macros if offered to me (the only one I refuse is straight MGD; blecch).

I think there's some truth to that; if I'm at a party I don't have a problem drinking macros (or yuengling, which is the thing around here) but I'm not going to sit down and have a blue moon or a Budweiser at home after a long day (unless someone left it at my house).

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Picked up some Stone RIS and Cali-Belgique today at my store, looking forward to trying those out.

I also grabbed a four-pack of Sixpoint Apollo on a whim, and I've noticed that there are a few other Sixpoint four-packs available at my store: Bengali Tiger at the least, and I don't remember the other two. Any recommendations or 'stay the hell away' for their beers?

Last but not least, my store was graced with some Voodoo Doughnut Maple Bacon Ale... The beer manager brought it out from the back, and my instant reaction was "Yeah, I'll pass on THAT one." His response was something along the lines of "That's the right choice."

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming

Podima posted:



Last but not least, my store was graced with some Voodoo Doughnut Maple Bacon Ale... The beer manager brought it out from the back, and my instant reaction was "Yeah, I'll pass on THAT one." His response was something along the lines of "That's the right choice."

I'm sure it would probably be a drain-pour, but I don't know if I could resist at least trying it once.

crazyfish posted:

Honestly, I think every beer has its place, even the big macro stuff. As I tell my friends, there's a big difference between a beer geek and a beer snob - I will happily drink most macros if offered to me (the only one I refuse is straight MGD; blecch).

For me, it's anything by Michelob, excluding the Amber Bock.

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


wattershed posted:

It happened, folks. His roommate killed him, drank all his top-shelf cellared brews, moved onto Limearitas, and is now posting from his account.

That Cherry Adam From The Wood was so loving good.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Podima posted:

I also grabbed a four-pack of Sixpoint Apollo on a whim, and I've noticed that there are a few other Sixpoint four-packs available at my store: Bengali Tiger at the least, and I don't remember the other two. Any recommendations or 'stay the hell away' for their beers?

I had Bengali Tiger for the first time a couple weeks ago (on tap). I don't know exactly which variety of hops is used, but which ever one tastes like soap to me is definitely in there. Was not a fan, but I admit that maybe I have a weird reaction to certain hops. It rarely happens, though...

Podima
Nov 4, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

escape artist posted:

I'm sure it would probably be a drain-pour, but I don't know if I could resist at least trying it once.

Yeah I'm honestly probably gonna go back tomorrow and get a bottle, just to split with my beer friends for shits and giggles. Plus the beer manager mentioned they had an anniversary ale in that never managed to make it into my hands, so oops?

Butt Soup Barnes
Nov 25, 2008

Podima posted:

Picked up some Stone RIS and Cali-Belgique today at my store, looking forward to trying those out.

I also grabbed a four-pack of Sixpoint Apollo on a whim, and I've noticed that there are a few other Sixpoint four-packs available at my store: Bengali Tiger at the least, and I don't remember the other two. Any recommendations or 'stay the hell away' for their beers?

Last but not least, my store was graced with some Voodoo Doughnut Maple Bacon Ale... The beer manager brought it out from the back, and my instant reaction was "Yeah, I'll pass on THAT one." His response was something along the lines of "That's the right choice."

I love love love love Cali-Belgique. Very easy to drink, pretty mild for an IPA but the Belgian characteristics make it amazing.

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

Podima posted:

Picked up some Stone RIS and Cali-Belgique today at my store, looking forward to trying those out.

I also grabbed a four-pack of Sixpoint Apollo on a whim, and I've noticed that there are a few other Sixpoint four-packs available at my store: Bengali Tiger at the least, and I don't remember the other two. Any recommendations or 'stay the hell away' for their beers?

Last but not least, my store was graced with some Voodoo Doughnut Maple Bacon Ale... The beer manager brought it out from the back, and my instant reaction was "Yeah, I'll pass on THAT one." His response was something along the lines of "That's the right choice."

Sixpoint Resin is the only beer of theirs I've had, but it's a really solid DIPA.

Mons Public
Jun 22, 2006

Sometimes I look for Rupees.
Sixpoint is solid. I like Diesel and Sweet Action a lot.

No_talent
Jul 30, 2009

escape artist posted:

I'm sure it would probably be a drain-pour, but I don't know if I could resist at least trying it once.


Just buy a pack of maple bacon and smell it. That's what it tastes like, its a little heavy some of the 'bacon flavor' with a lot of lingering maple. It was pretty srupy. I really wouldn't buy it again, it was more of an impulse/this is so weird purchase. On the plus side, just smelling it is great.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Podima posted:

I also grabbed a four-pack of Sixpoint Apollo on a whim, and I've noticed that there are a few other Sixpoint four-packs available at my store: Bengali Tiger at the least, and I don't remember the other two. Any recommendations or 'stay the hell away' for their beers?

Resin, Sweet Action, and Apollo are great.

I picked up my beer for this weekends festival: 6 pack of Left Hand Milk Stout, 6 pack Brooklyn Brewery Summer Ale, 6 pack Troegs Troegenator, 6 pack of Breckenridge's Summer beer, 6 pack of Sly Fox Royal Weisse. I also have a 6 pack of PBR. Let the fun commence!

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming

No_talent posted:

Just buy a pack of maple bacon and smell it. That's what it tastes like, its a little heavy some of the 'bacon flavor' with a lot of lingering maple. It was pretty srupy. I really wouldn't buy it again, it was more of an impulse/this is so weird purchase. On the plus side, just smelling it is great.

Reminds me of Wells' Banana Bread Beer. Sounds delicious. Smells pretty good. But is awful to drink.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Bought 2 bombers today: Stone IRS and Chocolate Oaked Yeti

I'm still trying to find my taste for stouts so this may be an adventure.

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming

Mahoning posted:

Bought 2 bombers today: Stone IRS and Chocolate Oaked Yeti

I'm still trying to find my taste for stouts so this may be an adventure.

I love the Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti (there hasn't been a Yeti that I didn't love, but the chocolate oak aged may be my favorite). The chocolate flavor is so rich. Be prepared for the cayenne pepper bite at the end, especially as it warms up.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Mahoning posted:

Bought 2 bombers today: Stone IRS and Chocolate Oaked Yeti

I'm still trying to find my taste for stouts so this may be an adventure.

yeah, big imperial stouts might not be the way to go, then, or at least not without a bit of age to let them mellow a bit. that Yeti with a year on it is fantastic, and i'm drinking a 1.5yo espresso yeti right now and enjoying it a lot more than when fresh, but that's also due to the relatively strong hops in pretty much any fresh Yeti. i usually suggest oatmeal stouts as an easier introduction to the style- Samuel Smith makes a good, easy-to-drink one that shouldn't be hard to find (and their imperial stout is a bit milder than a lot of American examples).

also, everyone who raved about Belgian Yeti was right. two weeks ago i drank the one SUPER HASSLER sent me a while back and was mighty impressed (right before i got sad about GD pulling out of central VA). probably my favorite of the bunch.

funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 03:44 on May 17, 2012

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Tonight, Zombie Dust. First, if you haven't seen a bottle, it has one of the coolest labels. This pale is like a glass of piney, citrusy bubblegum. Citra hops like I've never had them before. But is it the best pale I've ever had? Worth the 99/100 or whatever? Best of all the pales on BA? Eh. Yes, but not by such a wide margin. Were it as readily available as SN Pale or Great Lakes Burning River, maybe. But it's hard to find.

Zombie Dust is very good. It's excellent. But don't trade poo poo for it. Don't pay absurd prices. It's not really that much better than the other top pales that are year-round and nationally distributed (more or less).

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Well I happen to be absolutely loving this Stone IRS.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Mahoning posted:

Well I happen to be absolutely loving this Stone IRS.

there you are, then. buy a bunch- it's relatively cheap and ages really well.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

funkybottoms posted:

also, everyone who raved about Belgian Yeti was right. two weeks ago i drank the one SUPER HASSLER sent me a while back and was mighty impressed (right before i got sad about GD pulling out of central VA). probably my favorite of the bunch.

My favorite too. It's super creamy and loving awesome. The fruity notes compliment the regular Yeti so well.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Midorka posted:

My favorite too. It's super creamy and loving awesome. The fruity notes compliment the regular Yeti so well.

Absolutely agree. All of the Yeti variants are great, but the Belgian is by far my favourite.

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011

by XyloJW
Belgian Yeti is good, but I like Alagash Black and Hercule Stout both better, to be honest.

consensual poster
Sep 1, 2009

Let's Talk Beer 3: Stone RIS: Great Beer, or Greatest Beer

Went to Fred Fest in Portland last Sunday.

Highlights:

  • Cascade FredBonic Plague - delicious Bourbon Barrel aged dark sour. It feels odd to say that this was slightly disappointing, but last year's Fred Fest entry was one of the best beers I've ever had. Guess I'll have to settle with this being merely awesome.
  • Midnight Sun Moscow - RIS with Rye. Motor oil. Delicious motor oil. I probably drank more of this than any other beer at the festival. Really loving good. One of the best RIS's I've ever had.
  • Deschutes/Hair of the Dog Collage: barrel aged blend of the Stoic, Dissident, Adam, and Fred. Ridiculously complex. A great beer, but could probably use a few years in the bottle to reach it's full potential.
  • Firestone Walker Wookey Jack Rye IPA: I love rye in beers, but this was even pushing the rye envelope for me at first. I came to my senses, though. The best dark/black IPA I've had. Seriously spicy up-front rye flavor. Really good.
  • Hopworks Piledriver: 2009 Dubbel aged in barrel with brett and cherries. One of the best things that Hopworks has ever done. Wonderfully complex and balanced.

Lowlights:
  • Full Sail 2011 Black Gold: poster child for everything that is wrong with Bourbon Barrel aged beer. Disgustingly sweet with loads of fake vanilla and caramel flavor from the barrel. To borrow a great phrase from someone in this thread, it was like drinking a Yankee Candle.
  • New Belgium Trip VII: pink peppercorn IPA. The nose showed promise, but the initial pepper assault was really harsh on the palate. A good idea executed poorly.
  • Stone/Bruery/Elysian La Citrueille Celeste De Citracado: to quote my girlfriend, if you have to shrink the font to be able to fit all of the bullshit you've crammed into your beer onto the page, you've done something wrong. I don't know what the gently caress these generally excellent breweries were thinking when they tried to make this Frankenstein's monster of a beer, but it's totally out of whack. There are far too many ingredients in this to ever make something balanced.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Arnold of Soissons posted:

Belgian Yeti is good, but I like Alagash Black and Hercule Stout both better, to be honest.

Black and Hercule are truly Belgian (or Belgian style), while the Yeti is very much and American stout with a touch of Belgian to it, so i'm not sure they can be compared directly. also, looks like i'm gonna try some 2009 Chocolate Yeti this afternoon!

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


Perfectly Cromulent posted:

Let's Talk Beer 3: Stone RIS: Great Beer, or Greatest Beer
2008 bourbon barrel aged Stone RIS is one of my favorite beers, absolutely. There is nothing bad about it, aside from being strong enough I can only drink ten or so in a night (and not drive for 20 hours or so after that). Stone RIS is a good beer anyway, but the barreling and the aging made 2008 a banner beer.

quote:

  • Firestone Walker Wookey Jack Rye IPA: I love rye in beers, but this was even pushing the rye envelope for me at first. I came to my senses, though. The best dark/black IPA I've had. Seriously spicy up-front rye flavor. Really good.
  • Hopworks Piledriver: 2009 Dubbel aged in barrel with brett and cherries. One of the best things that Hopworks has ever done. Wonderfully complex and balanced.
I'm going to have to give Wookey Jack another try. I was totally unimpressed with it, easily my least favorite Firestone Walker beer. Yet I love rye beers. Maybe I got a bum bottle or just wasn't in the right frame of mind for it or something.

quote:

Lowlights:
  • Stone/Bruery/Elysian La Citrueille Celeste De Citracado: to quote my girlfriend, if you have to shrink the font to be able to fit all of the bullshit you've crammed into your beer onto the page, you've done something wrong. I don't know what the gently caress these generally excellent breweries were thinking when they tried to make this Frankenstein's monster of a beer, but it's totally out of whack. There are far too many ingredients in this to ever make something balanced.
I'm beginning to think Stone suffers from Not Playing Well With Others. Most of their collabs have ranged from unremarkable to unmitigated disaster. Citrueille is just a weird beer, it does nothing well side from adequately filling a 12-ounce glass. The beer actually made me angry, because I ordered it at Haven Gastropub in Orange and everyone else in my party ordered Russian River stuff.

Now that I'm thinking about it, maybe I'll give Greg Koch poo poo about this beer when I see him on Friday. Dude's pretty cool but needs to be deflated once in a while or his head swells to the point nobody else can share a room with him.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
Then I'd certainly be a damned fool to feel any other way, wouldn't I?

air- posted:

Check out Le Bilboquet too. They have an interesting non traditional take on a wee heavy as it doesn't have that peaty character. The sweetness from the honey/caramel makes it more like a really complex old ale. The oatmeal stout is supposed to be good too.

Awesome, added it to my list. Read some more on the Hopfenstark place, and they sound pretty cool. Actually, the microbrew culture in general in Quebec sounds cool.

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming
What breweries collaborated on the Squall IPA? I think it was DFH and one or two others.

It's been a year or two since I had any, but that was one of my favorite IPAs.


Rumble by Great Divide was another amazing one-off IPA.

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


escape artist posted:

What breweries collaborated on the Squall IPA? I think it was DFH and one or two others.

Squall is simply unfiltered and bottle conditioned 90 minute.

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


escape artist posted:

What breweries collaborated on the Squall IPA? I think it was DFH and one or two others.

It's been a year or two since I had any, but that was one of my favorite IPAs.
I had a taste of one at a bottle share on Tuesday. It doesn't taste much like an IPA now (at least not compared to the Sculpin I was also drinking at the time), but it's still delicious.

CalvinDooglas
Dec 5, 2002

Watch For Fleeing Immigrants

escape artist posted:


Rumble by Great Divide was another amazing one-off IPA.

It's seasonal, July-October. Their whiskey barrel aged beers are the one-off items.

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global tetrahedron
Jun 24, 2009

bartolimu posted:

2008 bourbon barrel aged Stone RIS is one of my favorite beers, absolutely. There is nothing bad about it, aside from being strong enough I can only drink ten or so in a night (and not drive for 20 hours or so after that).

Yowza. You can sure put them down... I think 10 3.2 beers would wreck me, let alone a 10 % abv RIS...

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