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titties: May 10, 2012; They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

CuddleChunks posted:

titties - Listen to the mother's day piece. You put emphasis on some of the words in there. Why? By drawing attention to "her vagina" how does that change the meaning of the sentence? Then there's a pause and the rest of the sentence (with a bigass pop). Here is how I would write out what you recorded

"She blasted you out of HER VAGINA... and now it's payback time. And this time it's personal."

Looking at that on the screen it seems odd. If you change the emphasis so that the first sentence has roughly equal weight you might get a reading like this:

"She blasted you out of her vagina' and now it's payback time. And this time... it's personal."

You could also put emphasis on *blasted*. That might make for a clearer meaning. I put a little ' symbol to indicate a short breath. The period is for a full breath, same with the ellipsis only wait a little longer.

Try recording another take of that and see what happens if change where you put the emphasis.

Thanks for listening and responding!

I knew that that one wasn't good, but I just couldn't resist.

Frankly, the emphasis on :siren:

HER VAGINA :siren:

was just because I am a manchild and found it fun to say. I did several takes where the emphasis was on "blasted", but I scrapped them because they were all pretty strained. I don't think my voice is suited to the type of read I was trying to do, and recording while laying on the bed with the mic stand wrapped in a sweet embrace didn't help (especially with the bigass pop). I do understand what you're saying, and it would sound a lot better if read as you've written it.

I think I'm going to hold off on posting more recordings until my gear gets here (hopefully some time next week). Until then, I'll practice reading out loud since it's not something I do very often.

I want to learn, improve, and participate in the thread, but I don't want to clutter it up with a bunch of bad reads / recordings.

I am starting to think that the mic is intimidating me. Before I start recording my reading feels natural and I think it sounds good, but I start having trouble as soon as I start talking into the mic. Did anyone else have an issue like this when they were starting out?

titties fucked around with this message at 22:24 on May 13, 2012

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# ? May 9, 2024 06:07

The Joe Man: Apr 7, 2007; Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984

I have a ton of catching up to do so apologies if I'm not as in-depth with critiques as usual. Feel free to ask follow-up questions!

Fiction D posted:

I'm the gangly creature next to Miss Delaware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtGC-P1i1Mo&feature=youtu.be

Thoughts?

This is pretty good, especially since it's an informational read. As previously stated, you don't sound like you're reading from a script (too much), and you come off as likable in both voice & looks. The only thing I noticed is that some of your "t's" in the middle-to-end of words was really weak. Overall though you did well!

(She was horrible).

Fiction D posted:

It seems that Delaware and Philly aren't prime areas for voice talent, so it's hard for me to really gauge myself with other professionals in the area. I tried for a brief time to get involved with acting, but ended up only being booked for auditions for business safety videos.

This is an amateurish question but are there agencies that specialize exclusively with voice talent? I'm not sure. Is it better to go with an agency that does it all?

This is completely dependent on area so I honestly can't tell ya. I know there's a couple here in the Twin Cities but I don't use them. I've noticed that some modeling agencies have tried to branch out into voice services, so maybe check around for that? If there's not a lot of local competition (within the agency), it's possible that you could pick up jobs from their already established clients. Don't be afraid of on-camera work either, and there's no shame in doing business safety instructionals or whatever. The more your face & voice is out there, the better off you'll be in the future. I hate on-camera work too but I just caved recently and agreed to do a pilot episode for someone. The reason I did it is because it's a LOT easier for people to attach a voice to a face. Hope it pays off!

JossiRossi posted:

Recently Halflife2.net rebranded itself as valvetime.net and we started up a weekly new roundup with me doing the voice. I've been doing it for about 2 months now but would appreciate some critical feedback. Right now I have people saying stuff like my voice reminds them of Clint Eastwood which... well I don't even know what they are thinking. So some outside opinions would really really be appreciated so I can improve.

Week 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV4QBnQs0D0

Week 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Trp3MiB1Uw

The biggest glaring problem with the most recent news bit is being a bit disjointed, I didn't have the time needed to clean that up and smooth the transitions unfortunately which drives me nuts as I listen.

So, what can I do better?

There's nothing glaring but it's just kinda boring...but I think that's the fault of the subject matter rather than you specifically. I noticed that you seem to place emphasis on staggered words in the middle of sentences (which you should do circumstantially), but the way you're speaking tricks the listener into thinking that the sentence is over when you're only halfway through. This is hard to explain so if I come up with a better explanation, I'll elaborate if possible. You also speak a little too fast, which can also be fine, but only if the previously mentioned emphasis is on the right words. As it is, you come off as a little robotic. It's not terrible, but there's room for improvement. Luckily, your problems are pretty easy to fix!

SatansBestBuddy posted:

My submission for Captain Fantastic's unnamed nemesis.

My headset mic was picking up my computers fans so I switched to a hand mic, which I can't hold steady for the life of me and only records sound from about 6 milimetres away. Took a half dozen recordings to get one where my voice doesn't disappear suddenly because I had the audacity to tilt my head up.

EDIT: Tindeck didn't like the first upload, replaced.

What the I can't I don't even

Go back and really read the thread from the beginning. All of it. PLEASE!!

invision posted:

Speaking of pop filters I don't know where mine is, but I recorded a thing.

Work on enunciation and slowing down. Also problems with emphasis on the wrong words. Small liberties can be taken but read and end each sentence as...well, a sentence. You're oozing into the next without properly finishing and by doing that, the read loses it's "oomph." This is possibly because you're trying to do the whole thing in one breath and that won't work. I'm sure I've posted advice previously in the thread regarding proper spacing and slowing down. If not, feel free to correct me and I'll write something up.

I also agree with everything that JossiRossi posted about your take so listen to what he says as well.

Meow Cadet posted:

Is it ever appropriate to ad-lib or slightly alter a script while recording? I have a video game gig, and the script seems a stiff on paper...

Not usually, no. If you're recording in-person then you could ask to try a different reading but otherwise they might consider it a waste of both your time. I kinda feel that the amount of liberties you can take is parallel to how little you're getting paid. I'm sure you know this, but don't make any REAL changes to the script. Just sentence structure so that it flows better.

Robersdee posted:

hey guys, just saw this thread. I actually do VO's for a living here in the uk.

I made a little video for ya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xwLYngw2-Y

Great impersonation! Definite problem with popping though. You probably know this already but you could still record it "live," rip out the audio from the movie file, fix the popping in production, take the movie file and mute it, then overlay the fixed audio over the muted movie and no one will be able to tell the difference.

:frogsiren:

^^^^^ PRO TIP ^^^^^ :frogsiren:

blinkeve1826 posted:

Reposting this as it got lost at the bottom of the last page, and I really would like some opinions on it as I'm recording and trying to figure out what to put on this thing right now:
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What's the consensus on commercial demos? Is it better for the quality of the different bits on the demo to sound different, as if they were actual spots, or for them to sound the same, so it doesn't sound like you just couldn't get a consistent sound? I've seen conflicting opinions and can't seem to find a straight answer one way or the other. I'm constructing a new commercial demo now (finally) and have a couple of real spots I'd like to use, but most of them are going to be fake--is that mismatch in quality going to work against me? Should I just record all fake spots for the sake of the demo? Additionally, what different types of reads should I be aiming to include? I have a naturally young, energetic voice, so most of what I include will reflect that--including one in character as a young girl--save for the clip of one of my recent commercials where I do the low, sexy/seductive thing. Should I be aiming for more variety (one "straight sell", one wildly enthusiastic, one "real person", one bright and perky, etc.) or just doing what will highlight what I do best? I know the answer is whatever will show clients why they would want to hire me, but is that a bunch of potential things they "would" want (i.e. all the different reads), or am I SHOWING it to them so that they'll hear it and say hey, we like this (i.e. what I think I do the very best)? And any ideas for fake businesses I should use? Right now it's a hybrid of real and fake--ideas taken from real VOs I've done, but with names changed, rerecorded, etc. if I couldn't find or for some reason couldn't otherwise use the original.

Variety is key on a commercial demo. Use real spots that you feel are your strongest, and feel free to mix them in with your fake spots. It doesn't really matter how you make the fake spots, but personally, I would record the whole thing with sound effects & music and then splice them up just like I would with a real one. If you don't, you might not have the same emphasis or rhythm that you'd naturally get on a full 30. If you can fake it well though, then sure, go for snippets if it'll save you time.

I don't exactly understand what you're debating towards the end there but just go for variety in a bunch of different styles & pacing. Don't worry about what they might infer from it. The main thing you want to get across is versatility.

blinkeve1826 posted:

I'm also working on my first narration demo, which is going to be REALLY hard to limit to just one minute, yeesh. I've got bits from an in-flight video, a tour bus audio guide, and an e-learning module I voiced (all real spots I've actually done, but rerecorded/with names and such changed, except for the e-learning thing which I'm taking straight from the recording I actually made), and I made up a children's audiobook excerpt (to show off some different voices in a childrens' story context), "real" book excerpt, and a phone message. Anything else I should be aiming to include? I'm a bit concerned about the redundancy of the in-flight video AND tour bus guide narrations, but the former is more instructional and the latter shows off my pronunciation of Korean words (I speak pretty authentic-sounding Korean for a very white girl) so I feel like they each have their own purposes, but I'm not sure. And is even a narration demo supposed to be kept down to a minute? That's REALLY rough.

I already said that 90s is also a standard, and if it's longer reads, that should be just fine. If you have to do 120s then yeah, go for it but definitely no longer than that. I feel that if you're condensing your best stuff, 90s should be more than enough time.

blinkeve1826 posted:

So here are some rough reads and stuff that I have so far for the new commercial demo: http://listentomelanie.com/comdemsess05132012.wav

LIKE:
Vampire Diaries
Prom Dresses ("Farmingdale" slightly muddy)
Kohl's Thanksgiving

DISLIKE:
Power & Elegance
Comcast

LIKE BUT TOO LONG:
Air Jamaica

UNSURE:
Milk (Tone like a child but voice sounds like a 15yr old minimum. Clean read but I'm honestly unsure if you should include it. Suggestion is to rewrite it as a teen instead of a child but keep the same speech characteristics)

I know you have a lot more questions but I hope this is at least something helpful for now.

titties posted:

And in homage to The Joe Man, well ... I guess I'll continue to smoke incessantly, drink 6 pots of coffee a day, and down a couple pints of bourbon (oh god why do I do this stuff?).

So you can get comfortable behind the mic, DUH

# ? May 14, 2012 00:36

JossiRossi: Jul 28, 2008; A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.

The Joe Man posted:

There's nothing glaring but it's just kinda boring...but I think that's the fault of the subject matter rather than you specifically. I noticed that you seem to place emphasis on staggered words in the middle of sentences (which you should do circumstantially), but the way you're speaking tricks the listener into thinking that the sentence is over when you're only halfway through. This is hard to explain so if I come up with a better explanation, I'll elaborate if possible. You also speak a little too fast, which can also be fine, but only if the previously mentioned emphasis is on the right words. As it is, you come off as a little robotic. It's not terrible, but there's room for improvement. Luckily, your problems are pretty easy to fix!

Thanks for the comments. Fortunately I get a whole new script each week to work on and that helps a lot to have a new thing to do in a set schedule. I'll be more mindful of my speed and intonation. Looking back I have definitely let my vigilance slip on those regards. I'm glad in particular you mentioning it sounding robotic because I've actively tried to veer away from that (which terrifies me, I must sound like a drat Speak and Spell if I'm not careful).

# ? May 14, 2012 02:53

Fiction D: Jun 14, 2010; eh

Joe Man! Thanks for the reply! Always need a little push from time to time I guess.

One of my good friends graduated from college recently and I wanted to do something special for his portfolio. He's in visual communications and a movie buff, so I decided to try and do a faux movie trailer reading for his portfolio. The plan being that he'll add some text and video to this and make something special out of it to separate himself from the competition.

I'm wondering how this came out. I haven't shown it to him just yet but am planning to show him tomorrow.

# ? May 14, 2012 06:03

pipes!: Jul 10, 2001; Nap Ghost

Welcome to Creative Convention, Voice Actor goons! Please take a moment to familiarize yourself with the subforum rules. If you have any questions about them, feel free to ask here, or PM or email me. And if you think there are any voice-related rule additions, also feel free to bring it to my attention.

# ? May 14, 2012 14:47

ChaosTheory: Oct 1, 2003; Pillbug

The only issue is that this thread (so far) partly goes against the no soliciting rule. So someone needs to create a VO thread in the appropriate place to handle that communication. Plus the OP should be changed also.

# ? May 14, 2012 16:30

The Joe Man: Apr 7, 2007; Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984

ChaosTheory posted:

The only issue is that this thread (so far) partly goes against the no soliciting rule. So someone needs to create a VO thread in the appropriate place to handle that communication. Plus the OP should be changed also.

What the hell dude?

Pipes!, I assume it's cool if we just keep doing what we're doing then? No more, no less. Just information, recordings, and the occassional job/contest.

EDIT: Also, did someone actually request that the thread get moved? We're going to get a lot less walkthrough traffic on a sub-forum primarily designed for writers than the window-shopping of GBS. I don't really care but since the thread is 90% informational, it's probably more helpful for "new arrivals" (GBS) than already knowledgable VA's (...still GBS, since CC is, again, for writers).

Who knows, maybe the marriage of writers & voice-actors will be great, but I have a feeling that the thread will become a lot more insular now...which is exactly the opposite effect I wanted for people interested in this field.

The Joe Man fucked around with this message at 17:33 on May 14, 2012

# ? May 14, 2012 17:18

pipes!: Jul 10, 2001; Nap Ghost

For the time being, let's try keeping the job solicitation as-is. The rule is in place mainly to prevent work requests from driving content threads off the first page, but from reading through the thread, your system seems pretty tidy and straightforward. I may change it if it leads to drama/problems down the road, though.

As for moving, the powers that be thought that CC would be a better match: "Critiques, professional tips and looking for work, seemed like Creative Convention is a good long-term home." I definitely agree with this sentiment.

As for exposure and cliques, I'm cautiously optimistic. If you want exposure from GBS, make content to share with GBS.

# ? May 14, 2012 18:03

The Joe Man: Apr 7, 2007; Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984

pipes! posted:

For the time being, let's try keeping the job solicitation as-is. The rule is in place mainly to prevent work requests from driving content threads off the first page, but from reading through the thread, your system seems pretty tidy and straightforward. I may change it if it leads to drama/problems down the road, though.

As for moving, the powers that be thought that CC would be a better match: "Critiques, professional tips and looking for work, seemed like Creative Convention is a good long-term home." I definitely agree with this sentiment.

As for exposure and cliques, I'm cautiously optimistic. If you want exposure from GBS, make content to share with GBS.

Sounds good, and I agree with where you're coming from. Main thing I appreciate is allowing everyone to continue to post/respond to jobs. Not only are they great practice, but I don't want to lock out folks from the (rare) opportunities that manage to come in.

Thanks for rolling with it.

The Joe Man fucked around with this message at 20:54 on May 14, 2012

# ? May 14, 2012 18:16

ChaosTheory: Oct 1, 2003; Pillbug

I had nothing to do with this thread getting moved, I just pointed out after the fact that people were posting jobs here.

# ? May 15, 2012 02:00

blinkeve1826: Jul 26, 2005; WELCOME TO THE NEW DEATH

There's a free "Talk With A Pro" teleconference from Edge Studios right now (9-10PM EST) about home studios, with a Q&A session going on right now. Aside from the odd person interrupting with a funny voice (seriously, HOW old are we???), it's pretty useful. Dial 1-641-594-7078 and stay quiet unless you're asking a question, for the love of all things holy

# ? May 15, 2012 02:37

The Joe Man: Apr 7, 2007; Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984

blinkeve1826 posted:

There's a free "Talk With A Pro" teleconference from Edge Studios right now (9-10PM EST) about home studios, with a Q&A session going on right now. Aside from the odd person interrupting with a funny voice (seriously, HOW old are we???), it's pretty useful. Dial 1-641-594-7078 and stay quiet unless you're asking a question, for the love of all things holy

How did this go? I left the house before I saw your post so I had no idea. Any good advice you picked up that you can share with us?

# ? May 15, 2012 07:15

Fiction D: Jun 14, 2010; eh

Wow this thread really is dead now...

Shame, I was looking forward to hearing more people's work.

# ? May 17, 2012 20:15

titties: May 10, 2012; They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Fiction D posted:

Wow this thread really is dead now...

Shame, I was looking forward to hearing more people's work.

I'm just waiting on my new mic and whatnot before I start recording again. The boom arrived today, hopefully the rest will get here tomorrow.

I started posting in this thread by wondering if my voice could overcome the limitations of my gear. Now I hope my gear can overcome the limitations of my voice.

Something I've noticed in my own practice is that I always sound a lot better until I start recording. Then it feels like it used to when I would audition for solos in choir. My voice seems much thinner, like I have to fight my throat to get the sound out. I know practice will help with this, but has anyone dealt with this before? Are there any particular tricks or techniques or whatever that you'd recommend?

# ? May 17, 2012 20:28

The Aphasian: Mar 8, 2007; Psychotropic Hops

titties posted:

I'm just waiting on my new mic and whatnot before I start recording again. The boom arrived today, hopefully the rest will get here tomorrow.

I started posting in this thread by wondering if my voice could overcome the limitations of my gear. Now I hope my gear can overcome the limitations of my voice.

Something I've noticed in my own practice is that I always sound a lot better until I start recording. Then it feels like it used to when I would audition for solos in choir. My voice seems much thinner, like I have to fight my throat to get the sound out. I know practice will help with this, but has anyone dealt with this before? Are there any particular tricks or techniques or whatever that you'd recommend?

I worked at a public radio station in college and never had any problem with the live news breaks or announcements, but when I went to record segments for overnight (station broadcast 24/7, but had no on-air staff from 10-5) I'd screw up, get flustered, voice cracking nonsense. Simply knowing that if I messed up I could stop and start again made me screw up more than the pressure of knowing that there was no going back during a live cut in. Eventually I had to just tell myself "Only two recordings, first practice, keep the second no matter what", which made for some very poor attempts for a couple days before ironing it out and becoming just as good as live.

This isn't a perfect example since "live-sounding" meant I still made occasional stumbles or had pacing issues, and for recording you want a polished piece, but it highlights the psychological impact of situational performance.

I suggest practicing while recording. Just record everything as soon as you start to read the copy out loud, provided you have the storage for it. Hopefully your software or equipment allows for "bookmarking" your recording, but if not clap or humm loudly for a few moments (to find it easier) if you think you've just had a good take while "practicing". It may feel like Tourettes, but it may help. You just need to break down the mental barrier between "I'm practicing, easy peasy, no pressure, just having fun" and "THIS IS FOR ALL THE TOMATOES, DO OR DIE". Sometimes I think putting yourself in that "Okay, game face time" is a terrible idea.

At the very least it will help you practice breath control, posture and related mic craft while also familiarizing yourself with the material. You want to make working with a microphone something you don't have to think about 90% of the time, so you can concentrate on performing the copy correctly.

# ? May 17, 2012 20:48

Soulex: Apr 1, 2009; Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Don't be afraid of the microphone.�

Seriously. It causes a lot of people to freeze up. poo poo, a third of my class bolo'd the reading part. Just fine practicing, but as soon as they started recording...blammo!

Hold your script up in front of you. Stand up (it helps me anyways) to read it too. By infront of you I mean eye level. �Reading head down is atrocious.�

I used to be afraid of the mic, but the only thing that got me over it was practice. I have been a DJ for a year now, and there is a huge change in a then to now.�

Remember too, it is Easy to sound bored reading. Smile while you read, it does make a difference.� Also, if you aren't speaking from your gut, you are doing it wrong.

# ? May 17, 2012 21:03

titties: May 10, 2012; They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

I got my gear today, but I only had a few minutes to play around with it before a million shrieking children stormed in (birthday party for a 6-year-old :toot:

), but I came up with a couple of questions you guys might be able to help me with.

I'm using Audacity because I am a cheapass. It was mentioned earlier in the thread that I should be gating to remove my fan noise. Even after applying the gate effect, the fan noise can still be heard while I'm speaking. I moved my computer as far as the cords would allow and turned the gain way down on the mic. This completely eliminated the fan noise, but takes a lot of the warmth / timbre / whatever from my voice.

I had also read that I should be compressing my tracks. When I apply the compressor, it brings back the fan noise that the gate removed, and even makes it worse. However, it makes my voice sound mighty.

Am I doing this wrong? If I try to compress before gating, the gate effect doesn't do anything at all. If I don't compress, the recording sounds a lot less rich but the fan noise is more-or-less gone.

EDIT:

It kind of sucks that the blue yeti completely hijacks all of your audio outputs.

titties fucked around with this message at 23:30 on May 18, 2012

# ? May 18, 2012 23:19

JossiRossi: Jul 28, 2008; A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.

Note: Holy poo poo. Just burned my food writing this. I did not plan to spend like 20 minutes here. Most of this is off of memory, so anyone who bothers reading this and finds problems let me know and I'll fix it.

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When you are trying to edit or fix audio remember that there is no magic "make x stop" function. I highly recommend you learn what the tools you are attempting to use actually do.

Gating: Gating is a tool that "opens/closes" your audio. You can do full gating where when open the sound flows through fine and when closed no sound exists at all. Removing fan noise with gating is not removing fan noise, it is just lowering the volume to nothing once the overall volume reaches a set level. You can also do partial gating which just lowers the volume further upon reaching a particular level, but not fully removing it.

Compressing: Compressing can do a lot of things depending on how it is used. You have several variables with compressing and frankly I still struggle with keeping my head wrapped around it. The basics are that you are setting a thresh hold, for instance -20 dB FS (deci-Bells Full Scale, which runs from 0 to -infinity). When the volume increases above -20 dB the compressor kicks in. It will attenuate the volume based on a set ratio. 1:3 is a common starting place, 1:10 is hitting it pretty hard. So all sound's above -20 dB will be essentially cut down to one third. This allows you to raise the overall volume up to a higher level.

Compressors are used to make subtle sound qualities become audible. Normally in your voice only the loudest parts are heard. Here you can make the louder parts quieter, and the quiet parts louder all focused around that thresh hold. So when you compress you level out the louder parts and bring everything else up to compensate for the lost dBs.

Equalizers: You didn't mention them but they are valuable as well. Let's say you hear a high pitched whine wither from poor equipment, or room noise, or any number of reasons and want to remove it. If you can analyze the audio to see the frequency patterns or can use a Real Time plugin (which I don't believe audacity has unfortunately) you can attempt to find the offending noise. If you get a graphic visualization of the frequencies it'd be on the high end and probably not much else around it. Take not of this frequency.

You then open of the equalizer. There are two kinds. Graphic EQ and Linear EQ. Graphic EQ is typically used in physical equipment and it's inclusion into the digital age is a bit anachronistic but to each their own. Linear EQ will present you with a straight line. In Audacity you can then effect this line by adding new points to the line. DO NOT GO CRAZY WITH YOUR EQ. It's an easy way to gently caress things up. Only use it if you know what you want to accomplish. Don't go in and say "I want to make my voice BIG" and then start drawing all over.

In the example given you'd go in and make a new point on the line right before and right after the high pitched whiney noise. Then on the whiney noise you draw and drag a new point down lowering the volume at that section. This is hyper simplified and the actual complexities of hoe Equalizers work is well beyond my ability to explain, but for basic purposes you are now cutting that particular frequency range out. Try not to remove it entirely. It is always best to cut as lightly and as little as you can manage as it will have unexpected and really negative effects if you cut too much or too wide a range. But feel free to experiment. You can take a look at Audacity's built in examples and hear how it changes things to get an initial feel for how it works.

Why did I just talk about EQ so much? You wanted to remove fan noise. Fan's often put out low end noise over a very broad frequency range. As such removing the fan noise with EQ will most likely remove the same frequencies as your vocal range.

Signal Flow: This is not so much a tool as a mental map of what you are doing. It typically goes like this.

Source -> Microphone -> Pre-Amp -> Tape (recording) -> Monitors (speakers) or Headphones

Knowing how each of these steps affects your recording is vital. The source includes your voice in this case, but also the room you are in. As you emit sounds they bounce around the room and echo. I once has a room where if I snapped my fingers I could hear the sound bouncing for a full 5 or more seconds. Needless to say my mic picked those resounding frequencies up. Rooms also respond to particular frequencies. You know how a guitar is hollow to allow sounds to build up and be reflected back out increasing volume and giving the guitar certain sound properties? Your room works the same way. Your source is also fans, street noise, ect.

The Microphone will have certain pickup patterns and frequency ranges. Your manual will state this information and should give you some graphs as well. Read this. In fact read the whole manual. I'm a tried and true "no manual" guy, but gently caress if I don't try to memorize my microphone info. The mic will affect a lot of things and knowing the pickup pattern will help a lot. Many mics pick up sound from in front of and directly behind the mic very well, so placing the mic close to a wall is a bad idea as it will pick up vocal reflections.

Pre Amplifiers are what bring the signal power up to usable levels. It takes your existing signal and amplifies it. Pretty simple. Except they hate you. A poor pre-amp will introduce noise and static, or will also amplify actual interference. I have some good equipment that is very finicky to use thanks to noisy pre-amps. There's also something about microphone impedance and pre-amps but I'm not smart enough on that one to be honest.

Finally recording, some similar issues to pre-amps, but in our case it's all digital. Ah, almost forgot. Here's where we go from analog to digital. An Analog to Digital converter is needed, this is typically unseen, but happens and should be considered. This is where Hz comes in. This is your sampling time. 48K Hz. 48 thousand times a second your nice and neat sound "waves" (they actually wave up and down, like on an oscilloscope. That's what is pouring out of your mic and pre-amp) your nice analog electrical waves are slashed up 48 thousand times a second and then looked at. Technically you no longer have a wave but many points of varying electrical strength. Also for note 48k Hz is typically for TV and Movies. It is when it will be integrated to video. 44.1K Hz is for music.

Then finally speakers/headphones. The output will be colored by your equipments ability to replicate the signal being sent. If your signal was Analog your speakers basically move in and out smoothly following the waves of your captured sound. When a sound is loud and fast your speakers move in and out really far very quickly. Quiet and low, the drums of the speakers move in and out a little bit and comparatively slowly. This will agitate and force the air to move as it would if the sound was being created by the actual source i.e. your voice. We don't have waves after A to D conversion though. We have a series of sustained force at 48 thousand times a second. So the speaker will bump out to it's location and hold until the next sample and then jump to the new level. This happens so fast though we have absolutely no idea. The human mind can not perceive individual acts at 48k a second, so we perceive it as a flowing sound.

NOW! You are thinking about flow. Good.

Effect flow is equally important. You need to combine all of this. What does the tool ACTUALLY do. How will that effect what my next tool does?

In your case you compressed a sound, thus making the overall recording louder. Most all of it. Then you attempted to Gate. Gating works best when there are clear differences in the levels of sounds. You destroyed that with the compressor.

If you Gate first, you remove (or lessen) intermittent fan noise, but then later compressing can bring this right back unless you make sure it is set not to.

I personally EQ once to remove bad sounds. Such as a low rumbling or high pitched whine. This cleans the recording slightly for the next tools. I would then use the Gate to close when the levels drop below my speaking voice. This means that ideally when you Compress, you are only raising the overall volume of the spoken parts. Then if you feel the need to alter your voice(and please for the love of god don't) try to boost some frequencies with a final EQ pass. But seriously, just don't.

FINALLY

Tools, no matter how good, intuitive, or stupid proof will never, ever replace the most valuable thing a vocal artist or recording engineer can have and that is an acoustically clean work space.

Alternately, if you are near Boston you can just pay me to worry about all this poo poo for you.

JossiRossi fucked around with this message at 01:27 on May 19, 2012

# ? May 19, 2012 01:19

titties: May 10, 2012; They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

JossiRossi posted:

EVERYTHING

Holy poo poo indeed. I am sorry about your dinner, but I really appreciate the thorough reply. I had never even considered using the analyzer and EQ to isolate and correct the problem. I used to be a sonar tech in the Navy, so I know a bit about how various spinning things make tones at particular frequencies. This should have been the first thing I thought of / tried.

I've never been in or around Boston, but if I find myself in the area I will make up that burned dinner or suck your dick or whatever.

Once again, thanks for taking the time and putting forth the effort to help me record a thing that sounds less like it fell straight out of my colon. I appreciate it. I'll try to put this advice to use later tonight once the legion of harpies outside my door descend to roost.

# ? May 19, 2012 02:31

Canuck-Errant: Oct 28, 2003; MOOD: BURNING - MUSIC: DISCO INFERNO BY THE TRAMMPS; Grimey Drawer

Doesn't Audacity actually have a built-in noise removal tool under the "Analyze" thing in the menu? You just have to have a long enough sample for it to work well.

# ? May 19, 2012 04:59

JossiRossi: Jul 28, 2008; A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.

You have to be really careful with noise removal. It's not a silver bullet even with a good clean chunk of your noise.

This is a total guess at how it works, but what appears to happen is you analyze the sound section. You get frequencies and intensity. So how it sounds and how loud. Then when you remove the targeted sounds from the whole recording, the ideal is that you have now mathematically removed just the "noise".

But, your recording probably has static and frequencies from all across the range, which have been picked up into the noise profile. So the more "fan" noise you try to remove the more you are affecting portions of your recording you DON'T want to.

So yes you can use the noise removal tool if you are very careful, but you are going to negatively affect your initial recording. It all goes back to my gigantic rant, specifically when I talk signal flow. You are affecting the entire recording (and any time you put your audio through a tool, plugin, or physical gear you affect EVERYTHING. Putting your audio through a tool with all the settings off or on zero will still change it.

titties posted:

I've never been in or around Boston, but if I find myself in the area I will make up that burned dinner or suck your dick or whatever.

If you're ever around, buy me a beer and we can call it even. I was having more fun writing stuff I remembered off the cuff than worrying about food anyway. I'll even record you if you feel up to it. My studio is ghetto as hell but I love getting to put it to use on things other than myself.

JossiRossi fucked around with this message at 05:20 on May 19, 2012

# ? May 19, 2012 05:18

titties: May 10, 2012; They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

First session with the new mic. I went with the Summerset Hills script, since I know a few other goons have done it too.

EDIT: Forgot to compress, fixed and uploaded

I would love some feedback on this. At this point I am especially interested in what you think of my voice itself. The quality of my reading will improve, but if I don't have the voice for this then please tell me.

Don't be afraid to comment whether you know anything about voice work or not. I love hearing from the pros ITT, but I find comments strictly from a media consumer's viewpoint valuable as well. If you're new to the thread, please keep in mind that I have never done any v/o work and have no idea how to use the recording software. I am a rank amateur, and these are not intended to be professional quality reads / recordings. They're just for practice, part of the learning process. That being said, it's pretty hard to hurt my feelings so feel free to be as honest and brutal as you like.

Thanks for listening!

titties fucked around with this message at 12:53 on May 19, 2012

# ? May 19, 2012 10:17

JossiRossi: Jul 28, 2008; A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.

Quality is definitely working better. There is still a persistent hiss that may be from the microphone though. It's slight however. I'd probably pull back on the Compression a bit, seems to be hitting a bit hard. Also some subtle room echo, Compression can exacerbate that and I feel that might be what is happening. Room echo is one of those things that often get's louder with compression.

Really the quality is mostly there for what I'd consider a clean recording. If I were producing an Audio Drama (would love to do that with people here if there was interest) this would be usable with a few tweaks and subsequent mixing. So that's awesome.

The biggest issue now is the performance itself. Voice is strong, I could easily listen to it for a while but the intonation needs a lot of work. You split up sentences in the middle, some of the pacing is choppy, and you end every sentence by raising your pitch (sometimes doing that in the middle of a sentence). Some of the pauses are pretty unnatural, and sometimes you blend sentences together making it hard to follow what you are saying.

I'd say for a practice do a much more casual recording. Don't try to sound like an advertising voice. Just talk like you would to any human being. Once or you are comfortable enough to sound natural during a recording you can begin to emphasize portions to make important things stand out and what not. Need to learn to crawl before you can walk kind of thing.

This is day and night compared to the first recording you put up in here though so vast steps in the right direction.

# ? May 19, 2012 19:30

titties: May 10, 2012; They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Thank you again for some spot-on feedback. I really am appreciative that you�re taking the time to listen and respond, and apparently your efforts and those of everyone else who have offered feedback have already helped me improve.

Some of the strange pacing you mentioned may have to do with the fact that I cobbled it together from several takes. I did somewhere around 30, then edited them together to get rid of pauses although I obviously missed some. Most of it was just my reading, though.

You mentioned an upward inflection. After some thought, I believe that I was trying to get away from the sleazy / douchey feel of my earlier takes by making my read warmer. Since I tend to equate warmer tones with ladies, I think I unintentionally tried to lilt a little in the way I imagine a woman might (this didn�t work).

I�ve been hesitant to post any feedback because I am so inexperienced and have no skills of my own. However, I can offer perspective as a media consumer who is also bombarded by thousands of ads a day. If you�re receptive to this, then cool. If not, then feel free to say �shut up, plebe� and no harm done.

Zratha posted:

Finally got my character demo done!

I don�t know if you�re still following the thread, but I�ve listened to this a couple of times and from my completely uninformed point-of-view the production of this is amazing. If you managed to do this from home before you got your Yeti, then that makes it even more awesome.

While I agree with The Joe Man that some of your characters sound pretty same-y, I thought some of them were quite good � that is, if I heard them in a game or on a cartoon I would totally have bought them. I was really impressed by the nerd, the adolescent boy, and Lois Griffin.

Fiction D posted:

One of my good friends graduated from college recently and I wanted to do something special for his portfolio. He's in visual communications and a movie buff, so I decided to try and do a faux movie trailer reading for his portfolio. The plan being that he'll add some text and video to this and make something special out of it to separate himself from the competition.

I'm wondering how this came out. I haven't shown it to him just yet but am planning to show him tomorrow.

This kinda got buried between my incessant posting and the move to CC. Since my own movie-trailer-style read was complete poo poo, I�m not the best guy to comment on this. I�m going to do it anyway � it sounds like you were right up on the mic and speaking really quietly. It wasn�t punchy enough for me to really believe it, but it was smooth and nothing was jarring.

EDIT:

I feel like this thread really started to go downhill once I started posting a ton of crap. Now that we've moved to CC it's pretty much ground to a halt, which really sucks. Pipes! mentioned that if we still wanted some of that sweet GBS traffic, we should post something there. To that end, I made this:

My idea was to use this (or something similar done by someone who is actually good), a brief OP pointing to this thread and requesting scripts, and some samples of some of the things that have been read for people so far. The Star FM Garage Sale of Awesome produced by Camo Guitar and voiced by IncredulousDylan, CuddleChunks, and The Joe Man comes to mind. Also King Lou's DJ Chrome bumps, maybe the B Meson voicemail - whatever was read by request and used.

I'd do it myself, but a thread from me wouldn't generate the interest that one created by a pro would. I'm also not the guy to best represent the SA voiceover community.

So what do you guys say? Nobody's really recording or making requests, let's do something to keep this poo poo rolling!

titties fucked around with this message at 09:11 on May 20, 2012

# ? May 20, 2012 07:28

JossiRossi: Jul 28, 2008; A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.

I think one issue is people don't realize the thread moved. I don't use anything to keep track of threads so I thought this had just died until I couldn't find it on any page on GBS.

If we were to start a new thread in GBS we really should be offering something to be consumed. Otherwise we're just soliciting. We have a lot of great voice talent here so we could actually quite easily put something together. Within say 2 months we could have something half an hour to an hour long to release if we felt like it. And it only takes that long because sometimes it takes a while for people to have the time to sit down and record. I was part of Pendant Productions for a couple years and they put out (and still do) somewhere around 10-12 half hour productions every month.

Also if we're going to advertise it'd probably be better to just snag a forums ad for a couple months.

For the reading:
Content was good, and the inflection is slightly better, still raising your pitch near the end too often though. Also be careful of the editing, I'm starting to hear it now where the pauses are too fast an unnatural. Got to breath sometime and people pick up on it and it's off putting. When I do recording I try to get as much into a continuous take as possible, sometimes up to a paragraph if I'm just reading off the cuff. Reading the whole piece aloud a few times before recording will help reduce the number of takes you need to splice together.

# ? May 20, 2012 14:21

titties: May 10, 2012; They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

It's funny, this time it was a single take. I just did a quick and dirty hack job to remove the long pauses, and wasn't careful enough about where I cut. Even after several takes I'm still leaving a pretty long pause between phrases, but at 5 am I was more interested in the concept then the execution :effort:

It wasn't my intention to solicit, or at least not in the sense of trying to get paid work. I was thinking more about how sometimes a "let me read stuff for you" thread pops up, or a "let's draw usernames / each other / robots" thread or what have you. I figured instead of making another "Let's read / record stuff" thread, we could just point people to the existing thread where people are already reading. If anyone has ideas on how to point people to the thread without soliciting, that'd be great.

Also, you mentioned before that you would enjoy working on a collaborative work, and I meant to mention that I would be totally down with that regardless of what it is. I just want to read a thing :words:

edit:

Like any overly enthusiastic newcomer, I practically live in this thread. Unless anyone has any particular objections I will probably keep posting every crappy thing I record regardless of value, relevance or personal improvement. I just want to keep the thing moving :unsmith:

titties fucked around with this message at 18:54 on May 20, 2012

# ? May 20, 2012 18:43

Incredulous Dylan: Oct 22, 2004; Fun Shoe

I actually just found this thread again after a buddy on Steam pointed the move out to me. I haven't really had the motivation I've been looking for since my DJ shows were interrupted by life. My idea for myself is to pick one of the reads from this thread and just go hog wild trying to nail it down and have fun with it - maybe retro turbo : ). I just need a goal and to get into the zone! Don't lose hope thread we've all got plenty of practice ahead of us

# ? May 20, 2012 19:16

pipes!: Jul 10, 2001; Nap Ghost

We've got an animation thread and SA does have a history of putting flash cartoons up on it's front page. Just sayin'

# ? May 21, 2012 02:05

JossiRossi: Jul 28, 2008; A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.

All in favor of being friends with them say "Aye."

Going to go ahead and assume we say "Aye."

# ? May 21, 2012 02:14

DaveP: Apr 25, 2011

Hey there guys, I've just been stitched up last minute by a voice actor and I'm essentially wading deep in the butt mud. If anyone could fill in and have a shot at the following voice work for a 3D short I'm finishing up in 24 hours time (hence wading through poo poo -and why I've just posted the whole brief rather than waiting for soliciting work) I'd be mega grateful -compensation wise I'm currently poor student sans money but by the end of the week I could send over a donation of �10 or goods of equal value (via payment method of choice -Paypal preferred) to whoever I decide to go for (I suppose that's the done thing for such a token amount, any alternatives will be considered)

Concept:
Demonstration animation for a technical workflow for recreating the look of stop-motion/clay animation using CGi. Well known British cartoon actor has argument with (off screen) american advertising director.

Character ref:
Stressed American Advertising Director, back to the wall thanks to a prima donna (clay stop motion) actor playing it up all Brando on set. Grows progressively more pissed over course of animation.

On Screen actor ref:
British popular claymation animation character past his prime on advert set.
Beat 1, 00:10- Sits back disrespectfully.
Beat 2, 00:17- Grabs and drinks main advert prop (drinks can).
Beat 3, 00:22- Acts personally offended.
Beat 4, 00:27- Starts smoking, then storms off set

Main script:
Listen. I've told you enough times but since you were busy getting drunk last night I've gotta tell you again: You walk over to the mark, you pick up the can, take a drink, then say [Cheesy Ad voice] 'Powerthirst sets me in motion!'
[Beat 1 -00:10]
It's so easy a monkey could do it; You think you can strut on set and do whatever you want because of who you are?
[Beat 2 -00:17]
Hey, what do you think you're doing!? Stop that! You're on my set, wasting my time, my money! Someone get this guy out of here and call Gumby!
[Beat 3 -00:22]
Yeah, you heard me, Gumby -at least he can pick up a can.
[Beat 4 -00:27]
Hey, HEY! Get this guy off my set, I'm never working with british actors again!
[End -00:35]

Any and all attempts would be much appreciated.

# ? May 21, 2012 03:00

JossiRossi: Jul 28, 2008; A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.

I have an early morning tomorrow, otherwise I'd do this right now instead of going to bed. However, I can promise that I'll do something when I get out of work around 3-4 pm EST. I imagine that will be cutting things drat close though. If nothing pops up though you can count on at least one around then.

# ? May 21, 2012 03:06

DaveP: Apr 25, 2011

Any effort would be gold at this point, huge thanks! I can get it done early morning the next day but then I'd be pushing in to all-nighter territory, which while possible is not preferable the night before a graded project exhibition

# ? May 21, 2012 03:17

titties: May 10, 2012; They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

DaveP posted:

Any effort would be gold at this point, huge thanks! I can get it done early morning the next day but then I'd be pushing in to all-nighter territory, which while possible is not preferable the night before a graded project exhibition

I am willing to take a stab at it, but I am not an experienced actor so I need a little clarification.

Would you prefer that I just read a few takes on each line so that you / the sound guy / the editor / Santa can pick and choose which ones they like?

Alternatively, am I supposed to try to match the lines with the cues / beats you wrote up? If so, is the 00:10 when the line starts or when it should end? I see that the character is off-screen, but are these hard time limits for the deliveries of each line?

EDIT: I waited as long as I could to hear from you before I started recording. I tried to PM you without success, so I went ahead and read anyway. I saved 3 - 4 takes per line, there's a little space in between each one.

This one has no post, it's exactly as I recorded it.

This one has been gated and compressed.

EDIT (again:) Somehow I forgot the "At least he can pick up a can" line when I was cutting my takes together. Here are a few takes of that line. I hope they match up well enough with the other lines, there was a fair amount of time in between the reads and I was a little more lubricated by the time I realized my mistake. I'm really sorry, I recorded that line but forgot to cut it in to the final submission, which pisses me off because there were some perfectly good takes there that would have matched up well. The third take has the least echo, I'd recommend going with that.

No editing:

And here's the gated and compressed version:

My recording space is lovely, so I apologize for any room echo / fan noise. I hope these are useable.

You're welcome to use it, but if time allows you might be better served waiting for someone who is actually good to post.

If you do actually use it, I'd like a finished copy sent to me. I don't have a working paypal and I've already got archives and plat, so send your moon dollars to JossiRossi instead since he was the first to respond and you were under a time crunch (unless someone else submits and you go with their read).

Hope it helps!

titties fucked around with this message at 10:51 on May 21, 2012

# ? May 21, 2012 03:53

Boar It: Jul 29, 2011; Mesmerizing eyebrows is my specialty

This thread caught my attention as JossiRossi posted in the animation thread. Some neat stuff in here. I'll definitely keep this thread in mind if I ever end up animating some stuff.

I am capable of doing some varying voices myself but I'd rather refrain from showing anything because a) my microphone is terrible and b) it is rather embarrassing to post after hearing some of you.
I can make a rather amusing indian stereotype voice and some other weird voices and accents. But that's about it.

# ? May 21, 2012 09:44

titties: May 10, 2012; They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Torabi posted:

This thread caught my attention as JossiRossi posted in the animation thread. Some neat stuff in here. I'll definitely keep this thread in mind if I ever end up animating some stuff.

I am capable of doing some varying voices myself but I'd rather refrain from showing anything because a) my microphone is terrible and b) it is rather embarrassing to post after hearing some of you.
I can make a rather amusing indian stereotype voice and some other weird voices and accents. But that's about it.

Don't be too intimidated! Some of the posters in this thread are voiceover pros, but there are just as many (or even more) interested amateurs who are also posting. If you've got an interest in voice work, why not read something for us? It'll be fun, I promise.

EDIT:

Totally OT, but I saw that you were asking about shootdodging in the Max Payne thread. I mentioned it a couple of times before, but if you shootdodge and land near cover, tap the cover button to have Max scramble into the nearest cover instead of laboriously struggling to his feet.

titties fucked around with this message at 10:13 on May 21, 2012

# ? May 21, 2012 10:03

ChaosTheory: Oct 1, 2003; Pillbug

DaveP posted:

script

Brought to you by Powerthirst:

# ? May 21, 2012 11:32

Boar It: Jul 29, 2011; Mesmerizing eyebrows is my specialty

titties posted:

Don't be too intimidated! Some of the posters in this thread are voiceover pros, but there are just as many (or even more) interested amateurs who are also posting. If you've got an interest in voice work, why not read something for us? It'll be fun, I promise.

EDIT:

Totally OT, but I saw that you were asking about shootdodging in the Max Payne thread. I mentioned it a couple of times before, but if you shootdodge and land near cover, tap the cover button to have Max scramble into the nearest cover instead of laboriously struggling to his feet.

I might show something small eventually. We'll see what I come up with during the summer.

Also regarding the Max Payne 3 thing, think I read somebody, if not you point it out actually. Anyhow, hello! Small forum we are in. :v:

ChaosTheory posted:

Brought to you by Powerthirst:

That's quite nice!

# ? May 21, 2012 16:00

The Joe Man: Apr 7, 2007; Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984

DaveP posted:

Hey there guys, I've just been stitched up last minute by a voice actor and I'm essentially wading deep in the butt mud. If anyone could fill in and have a shot at the following voice work for a 3D short I'm finishing up in 24 hours time (hence wading through poo poo -and why I've just posted the whole brief rather than waiting for soliciting work) I'd be mega grateful -compensation wise I'm currently poor student sans money but by the end of the week I could send over a donation of �10 or goods of equal value (via payment method of choice -Paypal preferred) to whoever I decide to go for (I suppose that's the done thing for such a token amount, any alternatives will be considered)

Concept:
Demonstration animation for a technical workflow for recreating the look of stop-motion/clay animation using CGi. Well known British cartoon actor has argument with (off screen) american advertising director.

Character ref:
Stressed American Advertising Director, back to the wall thanks to a prima donna (clay stop motion) actor playing it up all Brando on set. Grows progressively more pissed over course of animation.

On Screen actor ref:
British popular claymation animation character past his prime on advert set.
Beat 1, 00:10- Sits back disrespectfully.
Beat 2, 00:17- Grabs and drinks main advert prop (drinks can).
Beat 3, 00:22- Acts personally offended.
Beat 4, 00:27- Starts smoking, then storms off set

Main script:
Listen. I've told you enough times but since you were busy getting drunk last night I've gotta tell you again: You walk over to the mark, you pick up the can, take a drink, then say [Cheesy Ad voice] 'Powerthirst sets me in motion!'
[Beat 1 -00:10]
It's so easy a monkey could do it; You think you can strut on set and do whatever you want because of who you are?
[Beat 2 -00:17]
Hey, what do you think you're doing!? Stop that! You're on my set, wasting my time, my money! Someone get this guy out of here and call Gumby!
[Beat 3 -00:22]
Yeah, you heard me, Gumby -at least he can pick up a can.
[Beat 4 -00:27]
Hey, HEY! Get this guy off my set, I'm never working with british actors again!
[End -00:35]

Any and all attempts would be much appreciated.

# ? May 21, 2012 18:03

CuddleChunks: Sep 18, 2004

JossiRossi posted:

If I were producing an Audio Drama (would love to do that with people here if there was interest) this would be usable with a few tweaks and subsequent mixing.

I'm up for *Drama*.

Torabi posted:

I am capable of doing some varying voices myself but I'd rather refrain from showing anything because a) my microphone is terrible and b) it is rather embarrassing to post after hearing some of you.

Shame is counterproductive. Start recording your voice on whatever equipment you have. Make up characters, put on little dramas, sing, do something. Just talk for a while. Get used to how your microphone sounds and how you sound in it. You don't have to post every little thing you do but sack up and send us something that you want some help with.

Find a neutral script and read for a minute or two. Then share it with us and we'll help you improve the read.

# ? May 21, 2012 18:06

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# ? May 9, 2024 06:07

Stinkmeister: Sep 20, 2004; Lipstick Apathy

DaveP posted:

Any effort would be gold at this point, huge thanks! I can get it done early morning the next day but then I'd be pushing in to all-nighter territory, which while possible is not preferable the night before a graded project exhibition

Might be too late, but I'll take a stab at it tonight.

# ? May 21, 2012 19:20

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