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I like my Filco with MX Blues because I can really create the illusion that I'm working hard at work by just pounding the poo poo out of every keystroke.
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I learned to type on buckling spring keyboards and I have to say that, by comparison, Cherry blues are nowhere near as stiff or loud. And I and everyone else was plenty fast on the old Model Ms anyway. But these were keyboards designed back when typing on a typewriter was still a common thing. In regards to curvature, I believe the way Cherry does it is instead of having a curved backplate that mounts the switches like in an IBM, Cherry has a flat plate and then uses curved keycaps. This is why Cherry keycaps have different shapes for different rows, while the keycaps for the Model M are identical in shape from top to bottom row. Which is better? Hard to say, but I guess the IBM methods is more regular and even by a miniscule amount since the angle of the keycap in relation to the switch stem is always identical. But I doubt it makes much of a difference.
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I'd say IBM have it correct there, because it's easier to change keycaps. Hell, they even had those lovely two part caps.
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Cream_Filling posted:Right. Whoops, brain-fart. Either way, looks too much like this: Thanks! I did this myself using the dingbat fonts provided. The Ps on the print screen key was a leftover from when I had all the symbols actually be two letter things (e.g. Insert would be In) and I couldn't find something decent to change it to. Here's the link to the layout (it's kinda old so some things may not be identical): http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/wasd-v1-custom-keyboard.html?kt=1&k=1&s=70e3af92f42d99d5d3022a6e968393ff Lediur fucked around with this message at 01:06 on May 17, 2012 |
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May 17, 2012 00:55
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G19 keyboard / Corsair M90 mouse. Why can't the G keys on my keyboard, or the extra buttons on my mouse be detected as independent keys? For example, one of the default profiles that come with Logitech's software is for Dead Island. It has a macro for "Quest Log", which of course, opens the quest log. They keystroke for the macro is simply L. Okay, so I can assign that to G1 through G12. But what's the point? I still have to have the opening of the quest log assigned to L in-game. Two keys doing the same thing? What I'd really love to do is assign opening the quest log to one of the G keys in-game. That way, I can use L for something else. I know macros are useful for more complex things, but is there a way to simply use the keys as more buttons?
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Aws posted:G19 keyboard / Corsair M90 mouse. Short Version: No unless logitech changed something. Macro keys are designed to make macros, not operate as independent buttons. The easiest way to do this is map the G-Keys to something on your keyboard you never loving use while playing games, like Shift+0, then map Shift+0 to the function you want in game.
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If you export your G-Key macro config to XML you can hand-edit it to make the G1-G12 keys into F13-F24. That makes it easier to user at least 12 of the keys.
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What's a good keyboard with low-profile scissor keys? (Not the Apple keyboard; I had one and it was a pain to use in Windows). Ideally a bit cheaper than the Logitech Illuminated.
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norg posted:What's a good keyboard with low-profile scissor keys? (Not the Apple keyboard; I had one and it was a pain to use in Windows). Ideally a bit cheaper than the Logitech Illuminated. If you're looking for cheap, there are Apple keyboard clones everywhere. This one comes in white and black. I can't vouch for it personally, but I think it's been discussed in this thread before. http://dx.com/p/78-key-compact-slim-usb-keyboard-black-160cm-cable-44378?item=14
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glompix posted:If you're looking for cheap, there are Apple keyboard clones everywhere. This one comes in white and black. I can't vouch for it personally, but I think it's been discussed in this thread before. Cool, I should have said I wanted cordless too though. Is the Logitech K360 any good?
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Digital_Jesus posted:Short Version: No unless logitech changed something. Macro keys are designed to make macros, not operate as independent buttons. The easiest way to do this is map the G-Keys to something on your keyboard you never loving use while playing games, like Shift+0, then map Shift+0 to the function you want in game. ~Coxy posted:If you export your G-Key macro config to XML you can hand-edit it to make the G1-G12 keys into F13-F24. That makes it easier to user at least 12 of the keys. That is an awesome idea. Unfortunately the Logitech software crashes when I do that. I guess because it doesn't have support for F13-F24 keys. Seriously great thinking, though. I'm an idiot and it only took me two minutes to figure out what you meant. The only variables I could gently caress with were the "hidden" to true, but that doesn't change the crashing. I wish someone would just release a driver for keyboards to have more buttons. code:
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norg posted:Cool, I should have said I wanted cordless too though. No, the K360 uses rubber domes. I like having it as it is a cute mini/medium size keyboard, but... rubber domes. I am typing this sentence out on it and while it's fine for the most part, it's certainly not one of the best keyboards I've ever typed on. Does have a unique feel though, if you can find one at the local BesT Buy or whatever give it a try to find out how much you like (hate) it. e: Sometimes I do remember about the volume keys on it, it is rather handy to flip the switch and adjust Windows' volume with the thing. nftyw fucked around with this message at 03:47 on May 19, 2012 |
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I finally tried using the USB ports on the Happy Hacking Keyboard, and unfortunately they seem rather useless. It can't read my SD card reader, and I just plugged in my tablet, which can be used as a media device but can't be charged. I don't suppose there are too many HHKB owners here (these are some expensive sons of bitches), but is there any real point to using these ports? Edit: Looks like my tablet can't charge when I plug it into one of the case USB ports either, so it's not so much the fault of the keyboard. Welp, that's kinda lame. 404notfound fucked around with this message at 06:30 on May 19, 2012 |
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404notfound posted:I finally tried using the USB ports on the Happy Hacking Keyboard, and unfortunately they seem rather useless. It can't read my SD card reader, and I just plugged in my tablet, which can be used as a media device but can't be charged. I don't suppose there are too many HHKB owners here (these are some expensive sons of bitches), but is there any real point to using these ports? It's an issue of the device being an unpowered hub and using enough power itself to provide very little to the extra ports. I'm sure they're fine for low drain devices or devices that have their own USB power, but you won't get anything high drain running on them. I would've thought the SD card reader would have worked but I guess I'd be wrong.
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Aws posted:That's what I've done sometimes. Thanks for mentioning it though, it definitely works. It's just not ideal because there can be conflicts, so I have to set it up for each game. I'm sorry  I misread your post and thought you had a Corsair keyboard. Sorry for wasting your time with that.
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~Coxy posted:I'm sorry It was a cool idea. There was no time wasted; I just exported an existing profile and spent about a minute hand-editing the XML. Thanks for trying.
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The Logitech K400 wireless keyboard with trackpad was on sale at Worst Buy today, and my area is completely out of stock. I need a wireless keyboard with a built in trackpad for my HTPC, any recommendations are greatly appreciated!
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Is it bad that I keep getting to the checkout page of EKB with a Topre 87U in the basket? Please tell me it's bad.
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krooj posted:Is it bad that I keep getting to the checkout page of EKB with a Topre 87U in the basket? Please tell me it's bad. It's bad The 86u is where it's at
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I refuse to buy a Topre until I can get a uniform 45g version with a keypad.
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jwoven posted:It's bad No longer available 
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jwoven posted:It's bad Only difference is the spacebar is elongated and the lack of a right windows key, correct?
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Anyone using an Eclipse 3? My cat knocked my beer into my G15 so I need a new keyboard and the mechanicals seem to be a bit out of my price range. My G15 also had that volume knob I was in love with and mechanicals seem to be short on the media options. The Eclipse 3 looks very nice but I can't find too many people talking about them.
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I know this doesn't really answer the question but for a mechanical with media keys you really only have the Corsair K60/K90.
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Or just get a dedicated media remote.
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Moey posted:Only difference is the spacebar is elongated and the lack of a right windows key, correct? EDIT: aha, 86u is fixed 45g keys, 87u is variable. Still prefer the layout. 86u is still available from keyboardco.com in the UK btw, a snip at only £216... In fact, more generally, I have no idea why the spacebar on all PC keyboards is so long - I only ever hit it with my thumbs and inch or two from the centre, so I'd much prefer to have the alt, win and ctrl keys moved in towards the centre a bit. If you look at a Mac keyboard, the command key is a bit further to the right, and it feels pretty handy. FWIW I remap ctrl onto my alt keys anyway. wooger fucked around with this message at 08:23 on May 22, 2012 |
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So I got myself a Natural Ergonomic Pro 4000. Still getting used to it, but I think I'll end up being a big fan. I'm also experimenting with Gleebox though, and was wondering - is there any way shortcut for returning cursor focus to the main window? A keyboard equivalent to clicking on blank space. Alt-G only seems to work intermittently. Also, is there any easy way to remap the zoom toggle to scroll?
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~Coxy posted:I know this doesn't really answer the question but for a mechanical with media keys you really only have the Corsair K60/K90. Having done more research I think I am going to spoil myself with a K60 soon.
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coffeetable posted:So I got myself a Natural Ergonomic Pro 4000.  though I wish they made one without the numpad.coffeetable posted:Also, is there any easy way to remap the zoom toggle to scroll?
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evil_bunnY posted:
Whoops, sorry. Windows 7 and Chrome. And yes, after years on a 13" laptop it feels SO WIDE.
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Semi-typical 'recommend me a keyboard' post: Recently the prop-up clips on the back of my Microsoft keyboard broke, so I figured it was time to upgrade my keyboard to match my shiny Logitech G9x mouse. I got kind of interested in using a mechanical keyboard, and although I can handle prices of up to around $100, it's difficult to find one that has exactly what I need. I'm going to be using the keyboard for mostly three things: gaming, programming, and generally surfing the web. So I guess it needs to be 'all-purpose', in case one kind of keyboard is great for gaming but feels bad to type on. I took a look at the Razer BlackWidow, but I've heard repeated complaints of loose spacebars and inconsistent quality. I also don't really need anything like multiple keyboard profiles, or macro keys, although I guess LED backlighting is nice. I guess I can also theoretically do without a numpad, but I prefer to keep one simply because I do like playing a roguelike with the numpad every now and then. I don't have my heart extremely set on a mechanical keyboard, it's just that I thought it would be nice to try one if it was in my price range. What's my best bet for what I want? Edit: or apparently I could pick up a Logitech G19 second-hand for only $30, if that's the best possible thing I could get for the price, considering the G19 retails for $200. bewilderment fucked around with this message at 02:14 on May 23, 2012 |
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bewilderment posted:Recently the prop-up clips on the back of my Microsoft keyboard broke, I think you should keep your current keyboard. Having a keyboard tilted up with the prop-up clips is ergonomically bad. Keyboards should be more flat than that, ideally tilted away from the user. If you insist on getting a new keyboard, well, I was going to unironically recommend getting another Microsoft keyboard, instead of pushing the limits of your budget, before I reread your post. shrughes fucked around with this message at 04:54 on May 23, 2012 |
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shrughes posted:I think you should keep your current keyboard. Having a keyboard tilted up with the prop-up clips is ergonomically bad. Keyboards should be more flat than that, ideally tilted away from the user. If you insist on getting a new keyboard, well, I was going to unironically recommend getting another Microsoft keyboard, instead of pushing the limits of your budget, before I reread your post. I honestly didn't know that! I guess my desk was just organised in such a terrible way that it felt 'natural'. But yeah, I am kind of using it as an excuse to 'upgrade' my keyboard to something slightly fancier. Either way I'll definitely try using my keyboard flat and see if it makes me feel better. Edit: holy poo poo I just rearranged my desk and the stuff on it and changed the way I position myself on the computer and now I feel like a gigantic dumbass for ruining my body the way I was positioning myself before. Although I now need my glasses to read the screen, I am also no longer hunched into it! Now if only I had money for a computer chair with proper back support... bewilderment fucked around with this message at 06:26 on May 23, 2012 |
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bewilderment posted:Semi-typical 'recommend me a keyboard' post: If you're looking for a good full-size mechanical keyboard for $100 or less, I would recommend either a Rosewill or a Unicomp. The Rosewill is newegg's house brand keyboard (made by Costar though, the same OEM that makes Filcos) and has Cherry MX switches like most mechanical keyboards these days. The Unicomp is the currently produced version of the classic IBM Model M, so it's a little loud and doesn't have all the pretty MX keycap options, but buckling springs are a lot of fun to type on. I'm a fan of tenkeyless and smaller keyboards though, and if you feel like you can take the plunge, there are a few good ones that can be found for $100 or less: the tenkeyless Leopold (the full-size has a spacebar that can't easily be replaced), the CMStorm Quickfire Rapid (this one is made by Costar, unlike the larger CMStorm boards), the Noppoo Choc Mini, and the KBC Poker X. Of course, if you're getting a board with Cherry MX switches, you also need to decide on a switch type. Blues are usually recommended for typing and RTS gaming, while reds/blacks get suggested more for FPS games, but it's really all personal preference and you can't know what works best for you until you try it. I love clicky keyboards, so blues are my favorite of the common MX switches, but I think browns may be the best to start out with, since they're the most neutral seeming of the MX switches.
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Autolyze posted:If you're looking for a good full-size mechanical keyboard for $100 or less, I would recommend either a Rosewill or a Unicomp. The Rosewill is newegg's house brand keyboard (made by Costar though, the same OEM that makes Filcos) and has Cherry MX switches like most mechanical keyboards these days. The Unicomp is the currently produced version of the classic IBM Model M, so it's a little loud and doesn't have all the pretty MX keycap options, but buckling springs are a lot of fun to type on. I can't imagine gaming on a Unicomp - the force is way higher than even cherry blacks or blues, right? RTS is spammy enough that those switch types can get tiring. To give another opinion, cherry browns are my favorite all-purpose switch. I have them at work and at home. They're very low-resistance, if that makes sense. I do love typing on cherry blues, though.
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How much am I going to hate the Logitech K360 keyboard? Going to be paired with an M510 mouse (they will share a USB wireless receiver). I'd prefer a normal layout for the 6-block + cursors, and an ergonomic layout even more but I can't see any good options there without tripling the price.
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bewilderment posted:I honestly didn't know that! I guess my desk was just organised in such a terrible way that it felt 'natural'. But yeah, I am kind of using it as an excuse to 'upgrade' my keyboard to something slightly fancier. Either way I'll definitely try using my keyboard flat and see if it makes me feel better. Holy crap I just set my work keyboard flat and it's a million times better. Why are those loving legs there 
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sweat poteto posted:How much am I going to hate the Logitech K360 keyboard? Going to be paired with an M510 mouse (they will share a USB wireless receiver). It's decent for a keyboard, the real thing that bothers me about it is the fact that it doesn't have tall, angled keys like my Model M (which is possibly on the upper end of tall slanted keys) combined with the fact that it doesn't have the snappy clicky feel of an actual scissor switch. Let me switch over to my K360 for a bit. Hmm, testing, testing. Yeah, it's not bad but still not a mechanical or scissor switch. A few notes that I recall now that I'm typing on this thing again, sometimes I will miss a key by a bit due to being used to my mechanical keyboard, and the miss causes a key to not register, which is annoying. Also, insert and delete are above the backspace key, which means that F1-F12 are not grouped up nicely into blocks of four above the number row, which is intensely annoying. It also has no dedicated Print screen key, which I think is THE most annoying thing about it. Functionally though it does its job well as long as you keep the stuff you do with it simple. I have it paired up with a M310 that I got off eBay (sans receiver) for a few bucks, and the battery life for both is fantastic, and I don't get any random jitters, disconnects or anything -- it works just like I would expect a keyboard or mouse to. The range is pretty awesome too, I controlled my netbook from a solid 20 feet down the hall. e: It is kind of telling that I get more use out of the mouse that I picked up than for the actual keyboard the receiver came with, though. nftyw fucked around with this message at 08:52 on May 24, 2012 |
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Thanks a million, that's really helpful. I'll give it a go - it's for a new PC and I'm pinching pennies.
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Dogen posted:Holy crap I just set my work keyboard flat and it's a million times better. Because someone somewhere once said it was ergonomic, like steelcase leap chairs.  Likely they were trying to emulate the angles between key rows of old typewriters or something.
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