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Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
If you just put every kind of climate/terrain you have in real-life Los Angeles County into GTA V, you'd have much more variety than there was in GTA:SA, for serious.

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Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
There was a distinct lack of "sidewalk buried underneath layer of sperm, litter and needles"

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

MZ posted:

How does this even happen by 'accident'? The studio working on Max Payne 3 and the studio working on GTAV aren't even in the same continent....must be a weird piece of viral marketing by rockstar for the geeks. That's a lotta boats, cars and helicopters, but only 1 plane?!....

That, or it's complete bullshit like almost every other Rockstar leak.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
The actual Rockstar leaks have actually been pretty spot on (LinkedIn slip ups and the like,) its third party hoaxes about "my uncle at Rockstar" that are full of crap.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
Well yeah, but if this is just one place saying "yeah these files are totally on the DVD guys" it's no different to any other uncle at Rockstar leak. If multiple independent sources are saying the same thing (and not just reprinting each other's stories), then I'd be more inclined to believe it.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

Install Gentoo posted:

If you just put every kind of climate/terrain you have in real-life Los Angeles County into GTA V, you'd have much more variety than there was in GTA:SA, for serious.

I'm just glad the era of orange is over. That was an insane amount of orange..

Also i'm firing up GTAIII and playing through it for the first time. I think that bathroom guy quest giver in Staunton Island has been the most enjoyable so far.

Zedicus Mann
May 5, 2012

Avocados posted:

I'm just glad the era of orange is over. That was an insane amount of orange..

Also i'm firing up GTAIII and playing through it for the first time. I think that bathroom guy quest giver in Staunton Island has been the most enjoyable so far.
Some of the missions got a little annoying for me since the guns fire so fast and the AI is a lot more simpler than in modern games.
That gun speed makes it fun to gently caress around in though.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Avocados posted:

Also i'm firing up GTAIII and playing through it for the first time. I think that bathroom guy quest giver in Staunton Island has been the most enjoyable so far.

Isn't he the one that gives you the mission where you have to dash from one payphone to another to another to another in like 2 minutes with the payphones being scattered all around the city? I finally got the hang of it, but the first few times it was annoying as poo poo.

And he's also the one that gives you the timed mission to drive him to the airport through the underground tunnels because you have to avoid the bridge since it's littered with FBI guys, huh?

gently caress that guy.

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos
Yeah pretty much that douchebag. It was kinda nice how the game gave players a wink nudge,nudge where the next game was going to be at.

I do remember him saying he was going to Vice City.

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

And he's also the one that gives you the timed mission to drive him to the airport through the underground tunnels because you have to avoid the bridge since it's littered with FBI guys, huh?

Spawn a tank, problem solved :q:

Zedicus Mann
May 5, 2012

ElwoodCuse posted:

Spawn a tank, problem solved :q:
I did that mission without cheating. Hell, I played through all of the 'main' GTA games without cheating. :smug:

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
Speaking of cheating, does something happen at the end of GTA:SA if I enter too many cheats? I heard this rumor flying around somewhere, I just want to be sure.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
At least on the PS2 version, you can't get past a particular mission in Las Venturas if your save has cheats active.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

webmeister posted:

At least on the PS2 version, you can't get past a particular mission in Las Venturas if your save has cheats active.

...which one? I've beaten San Andreas more times than I can remember, and at least a few of those times, I cheated all the way through it. Then again, I've owned 3 versions of the game (PS2, PC, XBOX), so maybe it doesn't occur in all versions?

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
Haha sorry, been posting in the Diablo forum where everyone's afraid of spoilers :v:

It's the mission where Mad Dogg jumps off the casino roof - if you've been using cheats it can sometimes glitch so that he jumps straight off the roof, before you've even had a chance to move the truck.

It basically makes the mission (and thus the game) unbeatable.

Spalec
Apr 16, 2010

webmeister posted:

Haha sorry, been posting in the Diablo forum where everyone's afraid of spoilers :v:

It's the mission where Mad Dogg jumps off the casino roof - if you've been using cheats it can sometimes glitch so that he jumps straight off the roof, before you've even had a chance to move the truck.

It basically makes the mission (and thus the game) unbeatable.

It's not a sure thing though, I've played it cheating plenty of times and never had the glitch.

Bloopsy
Jun 1, 2006

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Spalec posted:

It's not a sure thing though, I've played it cheating plenty of times and never had the glitch.

For me it was. Frustrated the hell out of me at the time. I read somewhere that if you cheat over 500 times it triggers the glitch.

CascadeBeta
Feb 14, 2009

by Cyrano4747

webmeister posted:

Haha sorry, been posting in the Diablo forum where everyone's afraid of spoilers :v:

It's the mission where Mad Dogg jumps off the casino roof - if you've been using cheats it can sometimes glitch so that he jumps straight off the roof, before you've even had a chance to move the truck.

It basically makes the mission (and thus the game) unbeatable.

What causes it is the pedestrian riot cheat, or any variants of it. It overrides the AI for that mission and makes it unwinnable. Since there's no way to turn off pedestrian riot after you turn it on and save, the save itself is completely unbeatable.

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

I thought San Andreas just prevented you from getting 100% if you cheated.

Ak Gara
Jul 29, 2005

That's just the way he rolls.
Thought I'd try my hand at GTA:SA again, and I've used many versions of ENB Series and the one I'm currently using, "Marty McFly 2.0 Californian Sun" looks the best, but it halfs my fps. It seems GTA:SA only uses 2 cores? Is there a way of making it use 4? Other optimization ideas would also be good.



ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

wa27 posted:

I thought San Andreas just prevented you from getting 100% if you cheated.

I've heard this about every GTA game ever and it's simply not true except in very specific cases

Iacen
Mar 19, 2009

Si vis pacem, para bellum



ElwoodCuse posted:

I've heard this about every GTA game ever and it's simply not true except in very specific cases

I managed to cheat myself into a corner with cheats in GTA3. More specifically, I used to go to the multi story carpark on the second island (I think), where I would enable the Riot code and "All pedestrians carry weapons". The resulting mayhem of old ladies with bazookas going to war with gangbangers was fantastic entertainment.
Until I for some reason saved. Once saved, you couldn't deactivate it.
Surprisingly, I didn't have problems until the last mission.
Maria being held hostage on the dam and you have to save her. I just couldn't complete that mission, because her captors decided that holding her hostage wasn't nearly as funny as shooting her, and each other, with various weapons.
I learned something there.

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009

Ak Gara posted:

Thought I'd try my hand at GTA:SA again, and I've used many versions of ENB Series and the one I'm currently using, "Marty McFly 2.0 Californian Sun" looks the best, but it halfs my fps. It seems GTA:SA only uses 2 cores? Is there a way of making it use 4? Other optimization ideas would also be good.





What about the mod that makes CJ white :v:

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together
Yeah I never saved with those really wacky cheats on but god if I had a dollar for every GameFAQs idiot who insisted 10 years ago "you can't ever use any cheats at all if you want 100%"...

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

I've never even wanted 100% in any GTA game. I remember seeing my brother attempt all the paramedic and vigilante missions and such on...either Vice City or San Andreas, I forget now. But it looked incredibly loving time consuming, and it didn't look like there was any real reward from it besides him getting to say that he had 100% completed the game.

Veeta
Dec 23, 2011

... καὶ ὡς ὑπὸ βελῶν τοῖς σοῖς κατατρωθήσονται ῥήμασιν.
Yeah, I've tended not to work for 100% in most GTA games as the final rewards are usually pretty boring. I downloaded a 100% for VC on the PC and the bodyguards you get were kind of fun, I guess, but not really that useful.

The rewards you get for doing the sorts of missions you mention are pretty good, though. I remember that doing all the paramedic ones in VC allowed you to sprint indefinitely, which was amazingly useful.

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together
San Andreas had the best 100% rewards, such as the removed ammo cap and the Harrier on top of your house in Grove Street and the tank down the block.

Stubear St. Pierre
Feb 22, 2006

The only games I've ever 100%'d in my entire life were Donkey Kong County 1 and 2 and Red Dead Redemption. In the PS2 version of San Andreas I actually collected every single tag/horseshoe/pearl, I guess I didn't do all the stupid photograph ones, but there was some trucking thing or something I never touched and probably some other stuff. I think I'll always cheat like a fiend in GTA. The only reason I didn't in Red Dead was because at 100% the game basically cheats for you.

I recently went back to GTA4 and the physics really do make that game. In past GTAs I used to just find routes and drive them repeatedly because I guess I'm autistic or something but in GTA4 it just didn't work, mainly I think because of how slowly you accelerate and how much crap there is to get stuck on in the sidewalks. I gave GTA4 another chance (TBoGT to be precise, I'm never playing through the vanilla campaign again) and just messing with the pedestrian physics is amazing. Just mowing them over down the sidewalk, pushing them and watching them stumble off ledges, and I found out if you drive into them really really slowly they'll continually stumble. Off of ledges. I figured out a good spot and a way to drive into them, brake right before I hit them so they went up on my hood and crash into a fence with a 100+ foot drop on the other side which they go flying over. The best part is you never get a wanted level doing it, even if you do that stuff to cops. Christ these games bring out the sociopath in me

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

I just spent 9.95!! posted:

and just messing with the pedestrian physics is amazing. Just mowing them over down the sidewalk, pushing them and watching them stumble off ledges, and I found out if you drive into them really really slowly they'll continually stumble.

The subway. Push them down the stairs. Push them in front of trains. It's great.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
San Andreas on PC is beautiful compared to the PS2 version. Not to mention that the orange haze is pretty much removed with max draw distance. And the FPS is all silky smooth too. I really didn't expect that much of a difference on the PC version.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



I have 100% on GTA3,VC,SA and 98% on GTA4 before GFWL ate my save. :shepface:

davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice
I miss when games gave you benefits for completing them instead of knowing people will waste time getting it solely for achievement points. Really though, I just wish they had more stuff to blow your money on once you've got millions, even if it's mostly for show, but preferably real estate.

Stubear St. Pierre
Feb 22, 2006

davebo posted:

I miss when games gave you benefits for completing them instead of knowing people will waste time getting it solely for achievement points. Really though, I just wish they had more stuff to blow your money on once you've got millions, even if it's mostly for show, but preferably real estate.

The money thing was something I really loved about Vice City. Having a giant mansion and being able to just drive around to all your businesses and do pick-ups with your bodyguards in a limo or an FBI Suburban was a great way to zone out. This was after I managed to get to level 364 on Vigilante missions with the Apache, so I wasn't exactly hurting for cash.

I'd rather money be useless than be in a situation like Just Cause 2 where prices are inflated to where it's a huge pain in the rear end. It's a really fine line they walk between money being useless and a pain in the rear end grind, and I'm glad developers tend to err towards "useless." It was nice in San Andreas where they would let you just gamble it all away, even though the health cheat gave you another 150k each time iirc

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

davebo posted:

I miss when games gave you benefits for completing them instead of knowing people will waste time getting it solely for achievement points. Really though, I just wish they had more stuff to blow your money on once you've got millions, even if it's mostly for show, but preferably real estate.

I loved how this work in Vice City.

Also, I don't think the reason GTAIV has bad rewards is due to achievements. By comparison, Red Dead Redemption has plenty of great rewards.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
On the subject for Vice City, has there been any talk for a new one? I loved everything about it, although I wonder how they would top the soundtrack. I wouldn't put it past them if they just copied most of it over.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



I thinK Vice City Stories was a respectable update to VC so I don't know if they'd bother making another one. It also had a pretty drat good soundtrack. (although I only listen to Flash, VRock and The Wave because I am in love with 80s Pop and Rock)

Sevalar
Jul 10, 2009

HEY RADICAL LARRY HOW ABOUT A HAIRCUT

****MIC TO THE WILLY***

I just spent 9.95!! posted:

I figured out a good spot and a way to drive into them, brake right before I hit them so they went up on my hood and crash into a fence with a 100+ foot drop on the other side which they go flying over. The best part is you never get a wanted level doing it, even if you do that stuff to cops. Christ these games bring out the sociopath in me

Is this near Michelle's house? (Nikos first girlfriend)Behind here house are some very non-steep steps, which then brings you onto a paved circle area with a sudden drop. I love using the native trainer and setting a teleport point, I then proceed to lurch off in my car and lavish in the beautiful car deformation physics (with my 5x car damage multiplyer for realism of course). I can do this for hours, also if I can net any peds with the method you mention, all the better!

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos

NikkolasKing posted:

I thinK Vice City Stories was a respectable update to VC so I don't know if they'd bother making another one. It also had a pretty drat good soundtrack. (although I only listen to Flash, VRock and The Wave because I am in love with 80s Pop and Rock)

That is the only way to listen to the soundtrack. :colbert: While I would LOVE another Vice City, VCS did a pretty good job at it and wasn't just some other cashed in sequel.

God, I hate waiting for GTA news.

If I only had my ps2 controller (my old is busted) I could go back and relive the experiences in SA or VC.

I only play GTA3 if I want to curse at the screen.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Maybe it's nostalgia but I still love GTA3. I can't remember being so obsessed with a game in my life. I know a lot of people say it's outdated and restrictive comapred to teh sequels and that's true to an extent but I also think it had things it did even better than VC and VCS. For instance, I loved the colorful and diverse gangs. VC on the other hand had like two gangs and none of them were that cool or interesting.

I'm replaying VCS right now and it just makes me wish they had done more with Liberty City Stories. Oh sure, I liked the new Mafia stuff and Liberty City is as cool as ever but everything else in the game feels so cheap. VCS got nice cutscenes and retained some of its famous voicecast while LCS lost all its notable voice-actors. (gently caress the new Donald Love) It also has hands down my least favorite radio in any GTA game I've played.

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davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice

Himuro posted:

I loved how this work in Vice City.

Also, I don't think the reason GTAIV has bad rewards is due to achievements. By comparison, Red Dead Redemption has plenty of great rewards.

I liked how rockstar's website for RDR told you exactly what you had left to do to get 100%, and hardly any of it felt grindy at all. I think I got to about 96% before I even looked at what was required for 100%. For some reason using maps and just eyeballing flowers you need to collect seemed a lot more entertaining than me just following a guide to find 200 pigeons, then having to ditch the cops each time I fired a gun to kill one. I don't even know why I do that kind of stuff, because I couldn't care less about trophies, it's more of a "because it's there" attitude. Although I didn't bother doing any of that in the expansions, but that might have been because it's the same city.

I just really liked the earlier gta's where if you wanted to take a break from missions you could do other stuff that would give you a leg up in the rest of the game like guns spawning outside your base.

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