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I almost stuffed it into the back of a Yaris today. There's a traffic light just around a blind curve on my commute. I was fallowing the Yaris around the corner, and I looked up to see a green light. I thought "good, I'll make it" and opened up the throttle. It changed to yellow, and I thought "yeah, I'll still make it." The Yaris didn't agree, and stopped. I started quick-stopping, and had to force myself to not target-fixate on the back of the Yaris. I was able to use the turning lane as an escape route, and I brought the bike to a stop roughly even with her back seat. A few factors came into play here: -I'm used to blowing off that yellow, so when I saw the light turn I accelerated harder. It struck me as illogical that the Yaris would do any differently. -When I saw what was happening, I panicked. Yes, I managed to get on the brakes quickly and neatly, but I target-fixated rather than taking the escape route I had lined up. If I hadn't managed to break that at the last moment, things would have ended poorly. -My brakes suck. I posted about this in the general questions thread, but I'll reiterate. I'm not able to get gradually on the brakes. My front brake hits a "wall" at around 25% stopping power, and then suddenly pops to 70%, then pops to 90%. I played with that on the rest of the ride home, and I'm going to have to take the caliper apart and bleed the system. I should have been on this sooner.
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May 14, 2012 23:25
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Safety Dance posted:-I'm used to blowing off that yellow, so when I saw the light turn I accelerated harder. It struck me as illogical that the Yaris would do any differently. In other words, you're an idiot. I'm sorry, but that's the honest truth. Never assume and don't blow through yellows where you can easily stop instead. Rear-end collisions are the the fault of the rear-most guy 99,9% of the time.
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May 15, 2012 08:11
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KozmoNaut posted:In other words, you're an idiot. Yeah, basically. I'm not claiming innocence here; the title of this thread indicates that I'm still a dummy. Edit: What I didn't say above but should have said is that I need to break myself of that "Yellow? Aw hell no," instinct at that intersection. Safety Dance fucked around with this message at 11:40 on May 15, 2012 |
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May 15, 2012 11:35
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The beat the yellow attitude is one thing when no one's in front of you, but it's a safe assumption that someone driving a Yaris is going to come to a halt at the slightest suggestion
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May 15, 2012 12:54
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KozmoNaut posted:In other words, you're an idiot. For me, I would rather dash through a yellow (assuming its clear in front of me)than get rear ended. I think it's better to avoid an accident than be right.
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May 15, 2012 17:05
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Dial M for MURDER posted:For me, I would rather dash through a yellow (assuming its clear in front of me)than get rear ended. I think it's better to avoid an accident than be right. But then you'll be t-boned by the jerkbag jumping the light. I try to never go too fast to be able to stop for a yellow. Usually when I think "phew, I just made it through that one", 4 or 5 cars follow me across 
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May 15, 2012 17:19
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KozmoNaut posted:But then you'll be t-boned by the jerkbag jumping the light. It's not those people. It's the left turners who have been waiting for a yellow and might not see you blitz through at the last second. Don't do it.
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May 15, 2012 17:30
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Maybe I'm over thinking it, but all things being equal I would rather zip through then stop hard. There are of course a lot of if's, but I still think its the safer decision.
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May 15, 2012 22:18
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Unless it has just changed to yellow and I'm only 20m or so away from it and still at my cruising speed I'll usually stop for a yellow because it's not worth getting cleaned up/the fine (cameras  ).
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May 16, 2012 02:08
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Behavior of people at yellows varies dramatically by locale (time of day, weather etc) and while, yes, it's generally better to stop, it's situational. What would be the default safe play in town can be near-suicide in the geriatric suburbs. Around here I see equal parts people slowing down anticipating the yellow and then running the red anyway, incredibly sloppy and late left turners, and people zipping up to old reds and still casually overshooting the line by an easy carlength. Really it's just another case for high situational awareness.
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May 16, 2012 03:41
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I've stopped hard enough for a yellow that the car behind me had to panic brake so hard, it put on the hazards automatically and I could hear the tires squealing. Probably happened because I overtook him at a reasonably high rate of speed and he floored it for some reason. Trying to cut me off or wanting to teach me a lesson whatever, I don't know. That was quite a butt-puckering moment.
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May 16, 2012 08:24
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Edit: I'm going to strike this from the record.
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May 16, 2012 10:19
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Snowdens Secret posted:Behavior of people at yellows varies dramatically by locale (time of day, weather etc) and while, yes, it's generally better to stop, it's situational. What would be the default safe play in town can be near-suicide in the geriatric suburbs. Around here I see equal parts people slowing down anticipating the yellow and then running the red anyway, incredibly sloppy and late left turners, and people zipping up to old reds and still casually overshooting the line by an easy carlength. Really it's just another case for high situational awareness. I guess this would be the takeaway message. There is no hard and fast rule, and you have to always factor for distance, time of day, traffic, speed, etc etc
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May 16, 2012 19:01
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I just had an rear end clenching moment. I was coming across a familiar road, and there's a nice little S curve in the middle. The speed limit's 35, and I hit the curve and bumped it up to 40-45, probably. As I turn right, I'm immediately greeted by a line of stopped traffoc, the last one probably 10-15 feet in front of me. So I hit the brakes hard, which causes the rear end to slide out on me a bit. There's no way I'm stopping before that car, so I steer into the opposite lane, and come to a stop in the shoulder. I can't honestly say if my brain processed that the opposite lane was empty, or if I would've just run into someone had they been there. It all happened too fast. I guess what's freaking me out a bit is I don't really know what I could have done differently aside from taking the turn really slowly. I still woulda hit the guy at 35. Sorry for the rambling nature of this post. I'm still a bit shaken up.
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May 17, 2012 20:17
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Safety Dance posted:Edit: I'm going to strike this from the record. I presume you were calling me out as an idiot after I'd done the same to you. All's fair 
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May 17, 2012 20:21
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KozmoNaut posted:I presume you were calling me out as an idiot after I'd done the same to you. All's fair Yeah, but I woke up a little bit more (it was around 0530 my time) and decided you're a pretty cool guy and didn't deserve that.
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May 17, 2012 20:33
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Safety Dance posted:Yeah, but I woke up a little bit more (it was around 0530 my time) and decided you're a pretty cool guy and didn't deserve that. I know Kozmonaut IRL, and I can pretty much guarantee that there's absolutely nothing cool about him whatsoever.
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May 18, 2012 13:15
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Sir Cornelius posted:I know Kozmonaut IRL, and I can pretty much guarantee that there's absolutely nothing cool about him whatsoever. Listen to this man. He speaks the truth, for once. Cornelius, you'll be delighted to hear that I have diagnosed the previous owner of my bike as a bit of a goddamn idiot. It pertains to his ridiculous bodge-job where the centerstand rests against the swingarm and gets rubbed to bits. 100% his design and not how Suzuki meant for it to be.
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May 18, 2012 15:28
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KozmoNaut posted:Cornelius, you'll be delighted to hear that I have diagnosed the previous owner of my bike as a bit of a goddamn idiot. It pertains to his ridiculous bodge-job where the centerstand rests against the swingarm and gets rubbed to bits. 100% his design and not how Suzuki meant for it to be. You'll never learn how to be cool, bro'. Haven't I already told you, that you don't need a center-stand to change tires or adjust chain? Just lay her down and show that bitch who's in charge.
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May 18, 2012 15:42
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KozmoNaut posted:I've stopped hard enough for a yellow that the car behind me had to panic brake so hard, it put on the hazards automatically and I could hear the tires squealing. I have to say that from my experiences of driving in Denmark amber is interpreted as 'floor it' rather than stop. For the next 3 cars.
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May 18, 2012 18:04
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I didn't crash, but I'm still a dummy. I drove down the beach to chill out and watch the waves come in, but like an idiot I forgot to turn the ignition to off and my headlight killed the battery. I had to push it like 4 miles home. The sad thing is at least 12 bikers passed me on the way and none stopped to help. One cholo looking motherfucker stuck his head out the window to laugh at me. What is happening to this gay earth?
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May 20, 2012 02:40
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Ghostnuke posted:I didn't crash, but I'm still a dummy. I drove down the beach to chill out and watch the waves come in, but like an idiot I forgot to turn the ignition to off and my headlight killed the battery. I had to push it like 4 miles home. The sad thing is at least 12 bikers passed me on the way and none stopped to help. One cholo looking motherfucker stuck his head out the window to laugh at me. What is happening to this gay earth? You couldn't bump start it or nothing? No bueno, man.
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May 20, 2012 02:42
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Safety Dance posted:You couldn't bump start it or nothing? No bueno, man. I'm still on babby's first scooter. It's automatic : /
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May 20, 2012 03:16
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Man, that sucks. If it makes you feel better I dropped my bike onto my leg about an hour ago. Got to my shed and my ramp had slipped down, so I hopped off the bike and reached down the put the ramp back up - so I could get over the concrete and into the shed - and I didn't have the bike completely upright (apparently) so it started to wobble. I quickly fixed the ramp and stood up just in time to have my bike fall right into my thigh and slide the seat from my upper thigh down to my knee before I managed to stop it. At least it's light and didn't just go smack into me. :/ (I didn't put side stand down because the bike was over soft dirt and I usually just hold it by the centre of the windshield, it was extra flexy today though )
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May 20, 2012 10:26
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Well gently caress. I know it doesn't really count since there was no almost crash, but this is the most fitting thread. I was stopped by an unmarked patrol car today, for overtaking on a double line. As the very friendly mr. Police Officer showed me his amateur videos of me, he pointed out that I had been going significantly over the speed limit, as well. Goddammit. The video will be looked over by police experts and they'll conclude if I was over the double lines for more than 100m and whether my average speed was over 128kph. Each of those are worth 1 point and since I already have 1, it's a conditional loss of my driver's license and I'll have to take a written and practical driving test again if I'm found guilty of both offenses. I have to hand it to the police officer, he was very friendly and didn't mind answering my questions at all on how the system worked and what his personal assessment of the situation was. Then he gave me the standard lecture about how this could save my life etc.. And that drat unmarked car, it had kids' toys in the windows and everything, very nicely camouflaged. But he was talking about how this could turn into a an unconditional loss of my driver's license for 6 months and from looking through the relevant pages in the police's own information, I cannot see how he would figure that. According to their own material, I would have to have gotten 6 points within 3 years (not applicable), have had my license for less than three years and gotten 4 points within than period (not applicable, since it'll be 3 points total), and I've never lost my driver's license before or driven drunk. Anyway, he promised to call me as soon as the results were in, I'll be sure to grill him for information then. Goddammit
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May 21, 2012 20:01
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KozmoNaut posted:The video will be looked over by police experts and they'll conclude if I was over the double lines for more than 100m and whether my average speed was over 128kph. 100m I could understand, but passing over a DY at >80mph? That's a bit fast for such monkeyshines. What's your side of the story?
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May 21, 2012 20:39
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Safety Dance posted:100m I could understand, but passing over a DY at >80mph? That's a bit fast for such monkeyshines. What's your side of the story? I sped up after crossing back over the line into my own lane again. The double line thing was because I didn't get back into my own lane before the double lines began. I just read through the material and I could actually be looking at an unconditional loss of driver's license, since the two offenses give points and by getting three points, that's a conditional loss. Going more than 60% over the limit is an conditional loss as well. Two or more conditional losses means unconditional loss. gently caress.
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May 21, 2012 20:44
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Okay, that's more reasonable. Still, sucks.
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May 21, 2012 20:57
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Safety Dance posted:Okay, that's more reasonable. Still, sucks. "Sucks" doesn't quite encapsulate it. I'll lose my license for 6 whole months. That means I can't drive or ride until November!
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May 21, 2012 21:09
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Sucks, buddy You and Ola, you flagrant lawbreakers, you. Of course, here in the US, that'd either be a big ticket that you pay 300 bucks to a traffic lawyer to get dismissed, a warning, or getting tossed in prison, based on the color of your skin and the car you're driving.
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May 21, 2012 21:17
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I can't even remember, how long did Ola lose his license for? 6 months?
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May 21, 2012 21:27
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Get yourself some rimtape and some spiked bolts and go all Mootmoot during your state-imposed driving probation. Edit: Either that, or trackdays!
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May 21, 2012 21:33
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Safety Dance posted:Get yourself some rimtape and some spiked bolts and go all Mootmoot during your state-imposed driving probation. I actually ordered some nice-looking bar end mirrors before I got on the bike today. How would I transport my bike to the track?
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May 21, 2012 21:51
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Push. Make friends with someone who owns a truck?
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May 21, 2012 22:00
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KozmoNaut posted:"Sucks" doesn't quite encapsulate it. You know, I know someone who lost his license for a while and he hasn't ever been stopped since, meaning that his time without a license was more of a "3 months being really REALLY paranoid everytime he saw a cop car" kind of time. Not that I'd recommend anyone to break the law or anything, but are you really a worse rider because the state wants to punish you? How many times have you been stopped and have had to show your license before this? Just asking.
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May 21, 2012 22:26
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Nidhg00670000 posted:You know, I know someone who lost his license for a while and he hasn't ever been stopped since, meaning that his time without a license was more of a "3 months being really REALLY paranoid everytime he saw a cop car" kind of time. Precisely none. I have two speeding tickets, both from automated cameras. One for 70kph in a 50kph and one for 58kph in a 50kph. But I have never been pulled over before. And I am not going to be driving around without a license. That's an instant "lose your license for a long time and if we catch you again you go to jail" when they catch you.
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May 21, 2012 22:31
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KozmoNaut posted:Precisely none. Im sensing a pattern here. It's called repeat offender, and it means you'll probably start doing drugs shortly. Which means that driving/riding without a license will soon be the least of your problems. Besides, jail is basically a full-board hotel where you and I live. (But no, I would *probably* not do it either).
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May 21, 2012 22:44
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KozmoNaut posted:Well gently caress. I'm going to be a dick here. But if you ride like that you probably should lose your license.
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May 21, 2012 23:33
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Bloody Queef posted:I'm going to be a dick here. But if you ride like that you probably should lose your license. The funny thing is that you think any part of that is remotely dangerous on a bike.
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Nearly did an RdP on the way to work this morning. Was slowly rolling up the inside of some stopped cars at a traffic light, light goes green as I'm hitting the rear door of the car at the front. Road's quite wide at that point so I roll on from about 2000rpm in 1st and next thing I know the rpms shoot straight up and the rear wheel is going 45deg in every direction. I think I must've got into the power as I hit the white line or maybe cold tyres (it was pretty chilly this morning) but I'm pretty sure I puckered the seat cover off. Thankfully I didn't back off the throttle and get spat off, but gently caress me that's the first close call I've had in ages. [/  ridin']
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