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I went to the Utrecht Beerbrewers Festival over the weekend. The weather was fantastic, the music was good, just lying in the grass alongside the water looking at the old sawing mill and enjoying the atmosphere. Unfortunately I didn't like any of the beers I tried, everything was far too bitter for my taste. I'm already quite picky and rarely enjoy dark beer, but living in the Netherlands means easy access to hundreds of Belgian beers and I usually have one or two tasting sessions a month to try out some new blondes. My problem is that after discovering Tripel Karmeliet a few years back everything else just pales in comparison. They have it wholesale at the place next to my work for about 1,50 a bottle so that also makes it really easy to keep plenty of stock at home. I still enjoy Chouffe, Delerium Tremens and often find something nice in the new things I try, but nothing has come close to Karmeliet.
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CalvinDooglas posted:I guess whiskey is like beer... Because it's awesome. I still cant find any around here, loving stores.
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May 22, 2012 13:27
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SAVOR events are starting to show up now. May as well just wire all my money to Churchkey. Holy gently caress. I don't even know where to begin on this lineup. http://dcbeer.com/2012/05/21/churchkey-to-set-new-record-with-sierranevada-tap-takeover/ This is also sounding promising at RFD: http://www.lovethebeer.com/brickskellerbeertastings/index.html
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May 22, 2012 13:51
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air- posted:May as well just wire all my money to Churchkey. Holy gently caress. I don't even know where to begin on this lineup. probably around the corner and down the block a bit.
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May 22, 2012 14:44
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I'm trying to give Pale Ales a shot again. My previous experience with them was with Boulevard P.A., and I did not enjoy it. This was several years ago, though. I blame my weak beer tastes at the time. I've recently discovered my love of stouts and porters, but with summer coming, I want something a bit lighter. Last night I tried a Sierra Nevada, since they seem to be a prototypical "good Pale Ale", and was pleasantly surprised. Then I had a Mirror Pond, which was good as well. Any recommendations on some great Pales in the under $10/ 6 pack range, or something with Midwest distribution that would be in a build your own 6 pack?
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May 22, 2012 15:23
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What state are you in? Also, holy gently caress at that Churchkey takeover. 
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May 22, 2012 15:24
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Captain Shortbus posted:I'm trying to give Pale Ales a shot again. My previous experience with them was with Boulevard P.A., and I did not enjoy it. This was several years ago, though. I blame my weak beer tastes at the time. Oskar Blues Dale's Pale Ale is another standard if you can find it, though it's bordering on IPA levels imo. And also another "that Chuchkey takeover is ridiculous" post. They could do 3 ounce pours and I wouldn't get to try everything I haven't had.
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May 22, 2012 15:32
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Midwest could mean FFF or Half Acre, so go try Alpha King or Daisy Cutter. e: now that I see below, add Schlafly APA air- fucked around with this message at 15:52 on May 22, 2012 |
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May 22, 2012 15:49
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FreelanceSocialist posted:What state are you in? Kansas City, MO. I'll probably try Boulevard again to see if my tastes have changed, but I really just want to sample some good beers across the board. E: ^^I always forget about Schlafly and O'Fallon. Thanks!^^ Captain Shortbus fucked around with this message at 16:03 on May 22, 2012 |
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May 22, 2012 15:50
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Turtlepants posted:Here's Crafty Episode 3 - Ladyface Alehouse & Brasserie in Agoura Hills, CA. Quoting this because it's awesome.
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May 22, 2012 15:53
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air- posted:SAVOR events are starting to show up now. Holy poo poo, nearly every one of those sounds awesome. Ovila Saison aged in red wine barrels, brown saison aged in french oak syrah, bourbon barrel aged ovila quad, hoptimum on cask all sound awesome and I'm sure some of those other things are unknown gems.
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May 22, 2012 16:49
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Captain Shortbus posted:Any recommendations on some great Pales in the under $10/ 6 pack range, or something with Midwest distribution that would be in a build your own 6 pack? Firestone Walker Pale 31 is outstanding. Also if you have Trader Joes in your state, their Mission St Pale Ale is basically the exact same beer brewed for TJ's private label and far cheaper. Both win medals in beer competitions every year.
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May 22, 2012 18:40
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Docjowles posted:Firestone Walker Pale 31 is outstanding. Also if you have Trader Joes in your state, their Mission St Pale Ale is basically the exact same beer brewed for TJ's private label and far cheaper. Both win medals in beer competitions every year. I've always heard Pale 31 is a blend of Mission St. and DBA. I can't seem to corroborate it beyond internet guys repeating that story though.
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May 22, 2012 18:44
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I finally made the journey over to the Ohio-Indiana state line and got my hands on some Three Floyds stuff that they don't sell in Ohio. I'll typically see one or two bombers of 3F in Ohio, but its usually some of their seasonals like Brian Boru, Behemoth (I think that's what its called), and the Black Sun Stout. Never any 6-packs or anything. So anyways, got a 6pack of Alpha King, a 6pack of Pride and Joy, and a bomber of Arctic Panzer Wolf. Today is a good day. Mahoning fucked around with this message at 20:16 on May 22, 2012 |
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May 22, 2012 20:13
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Angry Grimace posted:I've always heard Pale 31 is a blend of Mission St. and DBA. I can't seem to corroborate it beyond internet guys repeating that story though. It's true, Matt the brewmaster said so himself during an interview on the Brewing Network. It's like ~10% DBA blended into Mission St.
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May 22, 2012 20:49
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Docjowles posted:It's true, Matt the brewmaster said so himself during an interview on the Brewing Network. It's like ~10% DBA blended into Mission St. It's actually pretty cool if you can make it to one of those events and taste all the component beers that you don't normally see like Helldorado (which is what they calla "Blonde honey Barleywine')
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May 22, 2012 20:55
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TenaciousTomato posted:Yeah I know it - Prima has some street cred in this thread. After looking up Brooklyn Pils on BA I'll probably mix a six with one of them in it and buy a six of Prima by itself. About Old Chub, anything by Oskar Blues is pricey around here since I live on the east coast, although I got really lucky with that 2 year old aged pack of Ten Fidy I somehow found for $10. Where on the coast are you? I'm in Maine and we don't get any Oskar Blues. I'm watching other east coast OB sightings so I'll know the moment Deviant Dale's arrives in NH or MA.
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May 22, 2012 23:17
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CalvinDooglas posted:Where on the coast are you? I'm in Maine and we don't get any Oskar Blues. I'm watching other east coast OB sightings so I'll know the moment Deviant Dale's arrives in NH or MA. I've found it in Rhode Island and (southern) Massachusetts.
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May 22, 2012 23:37
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Just popped open a can of Heady Topper. The aroma and flavor curve on this thing is incredible. It's a fantastic IPA that's got so, so much more going on than straight IBU count.
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May 23, 2012 01:36
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Churchkey's full listing of SAVOR events are here, for anyone interested. http://maildogmanager.com/page.html?p=0000015Fu8vh/srjsp1AOBjOcss6115wqenQ
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May 23, 2012 03:07
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TenaciousTomato posted:Yeah I know it - Prima has some street cred in this thread. After looking up Brooklyn Pils on BA I'll probably mix a six with one of them in it and buy a six of Prima by itself. About Old Chub, anything by Oskar Blues is pricey around here since I live on the east coast, although I got really lucky with that 2 year old aged pack of Ten Fidy I somehow found for $10. That Ten Fidy was the buy of the century, I would kill to score a fresh pack for under $13, much less an aged one. Confession time: I just had my first taste of Yeti tonight, and it was AMAZING! The chocolate and coffee and wow, it was so loving good. What are some other imperial stouts worth trying?
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May 23, 2012 04:33
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bengy81 posted:That Ten Fidy was the buy of the century, I would kill to score a fresh pack for under $13, much less an aged one. Depending on the time of year: -Any of the Yeti variants, especially Belgian Style -Alesmith Speedway Stout -Founders Breakfast Stout -Dogfish Head World Wide Stout -Old Rasputin -Brooklyn Brewery Black Chocolate Stout -Firestone Walker Parabola -Hoppin Frog BORIS Just to name a few.
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May 23, 2012 04:43
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bengy81 posted:That Ten Fidy was the buy of the century, I would kill to score a fresh pack for under $13, much less an aged one. Victory Storm King
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May 23, 2012 04:47
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bengy81 posted:That Ten Fidy was the buy of the century, I would kill to score a fresh pack for under $13, much less an aged one. Stone's Imperial Russian Stout is widely available right now and it is delicious.
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Mahoning posted:Stone's Imperial Russian Stout is widely available right now and it is delicious. While I appreciate Stones RIS, I can not stand the presence of raisins, or dark dried fruits, in my beer, which Stone's RIS has. I like raisins, just not in my beer. When I want a stout I want chocolate, roasted malts, and such.
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Midorka posted:While I appreciate Stones RIS, I can not stand the presence of raisins, or dark dried fruits, in my beer, which Stone's RIS has. I like raisins, just not in my beer. When I want a stout I want chocolate, roasted malts, and such. I was just relaying a good Imperial stout to the goon that asked. And while your opinion is valid, and tastes are subjective and all, I happen to completely disagree with you.
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May 23, 2012 05:08
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Mahoning posted:I was just relaying a good Imperial stout to the goon that asked. It's a pretty rough thread, the general attitude in this thread is nothing but condescending remarks about who can dick wag with the most impressive beer and is far from friendly. Actually came in to request Stone RIS and Storm King but its already been covered. I had my first six pack of Storm King in probably 6 months, its still one of the most drinkable imperial stouts I've had. Last time I had it I tried to do some homemade Black Devils, it honestly made the Storm King worse.
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Midorka posted:While I appreciate Stones RIS, I can not stand the presence of raisins, or dark dried fruits, in my beer, which Stone's RIS has. I like raisins, just not in my beer. When I want a stout I want chocolate, roasted malts, and such. You must hate quads.
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May 23, 2012 05:14
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dumptruckzzz posted:It's a pretty rough thread, the general attitude in this thread is nothing but condescending remarks about who can dick wag with the most impressive beer and is far from friendly. Unfortunately its kind of a given with the nature of the craft beer community. This thread is no exception.
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Corbet posted:You must hate quads. I really like V-12 by Victory, Three Philosophers, Trois Pistoles, and Rochefort 10, but not so much ABT12. I like my quads malty and loaded with brown sugar like Rochefort 10, and yes I know Trois Pistoles and Three Philosophers are rather fruity. I just don't like the flavor of raisins in my beer, which is odd because I love raisins. As for Storm King, I don't know how I forgot about that, but it's a beer I love to buy a 6 pack of and drink one every few months since it's a hop-forward imperial stout so it changes a lot rather quickly. I drank a Port Brewing Anniversary beer tonight and it's a good IIPA but it tastes like a less refined Hoptimum with a strong pine presence and less alcohol hidden. It's still dang good though. I'm also drinking a Santa's Little Helper from Port Brewing, it's about 6 months old now mostly fridge kept and it's still pretty strong on the roasted flavors and dark chocolate, semi-sweet with hints of brown sugar. I like this a lot and can't wait to try it fresh, it's a great imperial stout.
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Corbet posted:You must hate quads. And barleywines.
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Mahoning posted:Unfortunately its kind of a given with the nature of the craft beer community. This thread is no exception. Gotta make my Midorka quotes less subtle. You're really limiting yourself if you cut out beers just because of one flavor you don't initially like, one of my first good craft beers was SNPA and I'm glad I didn't just give up on it because hops weren't something I was used to.
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Turtlepants posted:Here's Crafty Episode 3 - Ladyface Alehouse & Brasserie in Agoura Hills, CA. I just want to quote this because LadyFace is one of the places I constantly take my growler to get refilled. Not a beer on their board that hasn't impressed me. Their Workers Co-HOP-eration is really good and I love their Russian Lullaby
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Midorka posted:Oskar Blues Dale's Pale Ale is another standard if you can find it, though it's bordering on IPA levels imo. What IPA are you drinking that you think Dale's pale ale is close to an IPA?
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Kosher man posted:What IPA are you drinking that you think Dale's pale ale is close to an IPA? Quite many based upon Dales Pale Ale's Specs: 65 IBU/6.5% ABV when looking at BCJP guidelines. It's a drat IPA to everyone but those who follows Oskar Blues style guidelines, just like Deviant Dale's is a god damned IIPA. What IPA are you drinking? Edit: For guidelines, an American Pale Ale isn't over 45 IBU, FYI. dumptruckzzz posted:Gotta make my Midorka quotes less subtle. You're really limiting yourself if you cut out beers just because of one flavor you don't initially like, one of my first good craft beers was SNPA and I'm glad I didn't just give up on it because hops weren't something I was used to. I don't "cut-out" any beer based upon flavor, I try everyone once. Beers with a raisin flavor just don't rank high to me. Midorka fucked around with this message at 06:40 on May 23, 2012 |
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Dale's is really resiny, but I think it lacks the malt content and body of an IPA.
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CalvinDooglas posted:Dale's is really resiny, but I think it lacks the malt content and body of an IPA. malts? Wait, IPA's aren't hops after hops after hops with some hops added *speaks as a West Coaster*
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Corbet posted:You must hate quads. I tried once to figure out the Trappist naming convention and failed to find a definitive answer although I found a few. I've seen sources that claimed that Dubbel and Tripels were "double/triple fermented," which makes no sense; I've heard that it was a rough analogy to the old British "X" = small beer, XX = normal strength beer, and XXX = strong beer naming convention; and I also read (and tend to believe) that it simply means it's the second style of beer the monks started selling and then the third style the monks started selling. Quadrupel seems to just be a genericised name (The Koningshoeven trappist monks do have a beer they call "Quadrupel") the beer community calls any Trappist-made or Trappist-style dark strong ale.
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Midorka posted:Quite many based upon Dales Pale Ale's Specs: 65 IBU/6.5% ABV when looking at BCJP guidelines. It's a drat IPA to everyone but those who follows Oskar Blues style guidelines, just like Deviant Dale's is a god damned IIPA. Please don't quote BJCP at me like it means anything. I judge a beer by what it taste like not what some people sat around and decided it should be. I drank loads of Dales out at CBC sitting with the guys from OB. It is no where near an IPA.
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Kosher man posted:Please don't quote BJCP at me like it means anything. I judge a beer by what it taste like not what some people sat around and decided it should be. I drank loads of Dales out at CBC sitting with the guys from OB. It is no where near an IPA. Also: I don't think Stone RIS tastes like raisins at all.
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