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Jiblet
Jan 5, 2004

Limey Bastard
Why does she hate me so?

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TheAngryDrunk
Jan 31, 2003

"I don't know why I know that; I took four years of Spanish."

Jiblet posted:

Why does she hate me so?

Awwww....look she likes you!


Emily 5 by xxyzz road, on Flickr

TheAngryDrunk fucked around with this message at 04:41 on May 18, 2012

whereismyshoe
Oct 21, 2008

that's not gone well...
that picture made me reconsider whether or not i should suck it up and save for a little while longer to get a 5dII. stunningly crisp

e: also it's perfectly lit. good job

whereismyshoe fucked around with this message at 18:26 on May 17, 2012

TheAngryDrunk
Jan 31, 2003

"I don't know why I know that; I took four years of Spanish."

whereismyshoe posted:

that picture made me reconsider whether or not i should suck it up and save for a little while longer to get a 5dII. stunningly crisp

e: also it's perfectly lit. good job

Thank you. I just realized I left a bare patch of unsmoothed skin under her right eye. :doh: Gotta fix that.

As for the crispness, the 70-200 f/2.8 II probably has more to do with that. I didn't like that lens when I first bought it (mainly because it's such a beast), but now that I'm shooting people more I love it to death.

xenilk
Apr 17, 2004

ERRYDAY I BE SPLIT-TONING! Honestly, its the only skill I got other than shooting the back of women and calling it "Editorial".

TheAngryDrunk posted:

Thank you. I just realized I left a bare patch of unsmoothed skin under her right eye. :doh: Gotta fix that.

As for the crispness, the 70-200 f/2.8 II probably has more to do with that. I didn't like that lens when I first bought it (mainly because it's such a beast), but now that I'm shooting people more I love it to death.

Do you ever shoot with 50mm or 85mm ? I can't picture myself shooting with 70-200, it's a beast and I kind of like being close to my subject.

TheAngryDrunk
Jan 31, 2003

"I don't know why I know that; I took four years of Spanish."

xenilk posted:

Do you ever shoot with 50mm or 85mm ? I can't picture myself shooting with 70-200, it's a beast and I kind of like being close to my subject.

It depends on what you're shooting. If you want some of the environment in the scene, 50mm is a great focal length. 70 to 135 are pretty classic portraiture focal lengths on full frame. At higher focal lengths, I'm probably doing headshots.

I also don't know what body you're shooting with. If it's a crop, 70-200 would push you back even farther.

Edit: Some of the ones I posted on the previous page are 70-100mm.

TheAngryDrunk fucked around with this message at 18:56 on May 17, 2012

Gazmachine
May 22, 2005

Happy Happy Breakdance Challenge 4

TheAngryDrunk posted:

Which look do you prefer? (And yes, the coffee mug needed to go.)


Emily 3 by xxyzz road, on Flickr


Emily 4 by xxyzz road, on Flickr

They're both very...porny. Her expressions are very sexually aggressive. Don't know if that was the intention but if it was, then these nail it (:v:) pretty well.

I'm not sure about her right hand - because the sleeve is pulled up and we can't see the rest of her arm, it sort of looks like someone else's hand.

However, along with the other two, they're kind of interesting as a set. They sort of look more like she's playing a character of some sort when put together, like a corporate power bitch or something.

TheAngryDrunk
Jan 31, 2003

"I don't know why I know that; I took four years of Spanish."

Gazmachine posted:

They're both very...porny. Her expressions are very sexually aggressive. Don't know if that was the intention but if it was, then these nail it (:v:) pretty well.

I'm not sure about her right hand - because the sleeve is pulled up and we can't see the rest of her arm, it sort of looks like someone else's hand.

However, along with the other two, they're kind of interesting as a set. They sort of look more like she's playing a character of some sort when put together, like a corporate power bitch or something.

Yeah, sorry if I wasn't clear. She's an aspiring model, so did some basic headshots and portraits, but also some more creative shots. Those two are definitely intended to be a bit "porny," as you put it.

RangerScum
Apr 6, 2006

lol hey there buddy

TheAngryDrunk posted:

Yeah, sorry if I wasn't clear. She's an aspiring model, so did some basic headshots and portraits, but also some more creative shots. Those two are definitely intended to be a bit "porny," as you put it.

Is she trying to be a porn model or something? "Porny" is usually not a look people aspire to achieve. That being said, I don't think that was a good location for the photos. If I were in your shoes I would have shot headshots there and done creative work elsewhere.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine
I think "cheap" would be a better descriptor for those photos.

TheAngryDrunk
Jan 31, 2003

"I don't know why I know that; I took four years of Spanish."
Anyone else a fan of CreativeLive? I highly recommend watching Mark Wallace's course on speedlights over the weekend (it's free while it's live). IMO, he's the best instructor CreativeLive has had on in the past. His "Anatomy of a Photoshoot" course is just crammed with great info.

psylent
Nov 29, 2000

Pillbug

Gazmachine posted:

They're both very...porny. Her expressions are very sexually aggressive. Don't know if that was the intention but if it was, then these nail it (:v:) pretty well

They do kind of look like they're the first two photo of a set where she ends up naked and sweaty.

MrOpus
Mar 21, 2004

I shot someone this evening. She most certainly liked it, but I keep looking at her arm and thinking it's bending weird. Am I being too picky here?


Stephanie by Chad Larson Photography, on Flickr

TheAngryDrunk
Jan 31, 2003

"I don't know why I know that; I took four years of Spanish."
Yeah, it's bending how the arm naturally bends when leaning back like that, which is also the way models are taught to try and avoid. It's completely natural - so don't do it! Go figure.

It's not that big of a deal though, especially since she likes it.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
I think it's a cool shot. I like the way the lighting on the water provides sort of a naturally vignetting to the shot.

RangerScum
Apr 6, 2006

lol hey there buddy

MrOpus posted:

I shot someone this evening. She most certainly liked it, but I keep looking at her arm and thinking it's bending weird. Am I being too picky here?


Stephanie by Chad Larson Photography, on Flickr

That seems like a pretty easy thing to just liquify and fix.

Gazmachine
May 22, 2005

Happy Happy Breakdance Challenge 4

MrOpus posted:

I shot someone this evening. She most certainly liked it, but I keep looking at her arm and thinking it's bending weird. Am I being too picky here?


Stephanie by Chad Larson Photography, on Flickr

I don't like how I can only see the whites of her eyes. What's the pose / expression conveying? Is she meant to be looking at something above her?

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Just saw this, a shoot with some very "flattering" portraits. SFW, despite the URL.

EDIT: Found a better link.

sildargod
Oct 25, 2010
Was at a friend on the weekend and we decided to try playing with his smoke machine and some lights.


Lanthis-2 by sildargod, on Flickr


Lanthis-12 by sildargod, on Flickr


Lanthis-6 by sildargod, on Flickr


Lanthis-9 by sildargod, on Flickr

He wanted to appear to be rising out of the smoke, but we quickly learned that smoke does not obey your wishes even a little. The slightest gust of air turns it into a thick, obscuring cloud that ruins a cameras ability to focus.

Was still fun to shoot though!

Gazmachine
May 22, 2005

Happy Happy Breakdance Challenge 4
It's a shame the focus is off in these. Lanthis-6 would be great if it was sharper.

In fact, Lanthis 4 in your photostream is really cool, because it's a little sharper than the others and the split lighting is great. It's stronger than the ones you've posted here, I would say.

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.

sildargod posted:

Was at a friend on the weekend and we decided to try playing with his smoke machine and some lights.


Lanthis-2 by sildargod, on Flickr


I didn't like this one at first because it looks like he's either a disembodied head or he's just craning his neck too far forward. After a few more views I'd forgiven it, though, because I actually like his head position and how it makes use of the lighting and the seeming part in the smoke in front of him. It's not something I would want to see a lot of, but as a one-off project for kicks I think this works out really well.



Faith's dreamy eyes! by McMadCow, on Flickr

dowdy_pants
Aug 18, 2008
A couple of snapshots I took this morning...


George by ralph-brewer, on Flickr


African1 by ralph-brewer, on Flickr

MrOpus
Mar 21, 2004

Gazmachine posted:

I don't like how I can only see the whites of her eyes. What's the pose / expression conveying? Is she meant to be looking at something above her?

Yeah. A T-rex. :)

Cyberbob
Mar 29, 2006
Prepare for doom. doom. doooooom. doooooom.
Having a hard time with the tone of this one. Too desaturated or fine as is?

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Q2VqF.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/BQUie.jpg[IMG]

edited..

Cyberbob fucked around with this message at 01:14 on May 30, 2012

nerdrum
Aug 17, 2007

where am I







Super new to portraits and I'm not sure how I feel about these two... any suggestions?

TheAngryDrunk
Jan 31, 2003

"I don't know why I know that; I took four years of Spanish."

nerdrum posted:








Super new to portraits and I'm not sure how I feel about these two... any suggestions?

Well, I'm pretty new myself, but I'll give my two cents.

I dig the composition of the first one, but it would be nice to get a clearer view of her eyes. I'd lose the glasses. In both of them actually.

In the second one I can't see her eyes at all. I would have kept her whole body in the frame. There's not much going on with the right side of the frame, so I don't think it adds much. It does have a cool texture though. I think I would have gone portrait rather than landscape there and fill the frame with her.

TheAngryDrunk
Jan 31, 2003

"I don't know why I know that; I took four years of Spanish."

Emily 6 by xxyzz road, on Flickr

sildargod
Oct 25, 2010

Gazmachine posted:

It's a shame the focus is off in these. Lanthis-6 would be great if it was sharper.

In fact, Lanthis 4 in your photostream is really cool, because it's a little sharper than the others and the split lighting is great. It's stronger than the ones you've posted here, I would say.

Thank you! Yes, I had major frustrations with focus, the smoke creates a fairly distracting layer in the air that confuses autofocus completely and manual focus was a bitch with the low light. The lighting though has given me lots of ideas of things to do, it's fun playing outside of the conventional boundaries I've set for myself.

McMadCow posted:

I didn't like this one at first because it looks like he's either a disembodied head or he's just craning his neck too far forward. After a few more views I'd forgiven it, though, because I actually like his head position and how it makes use of the lighting and the seeming part in the smoke in front of him. It's not something I would want to see a lot of, but as a one-off project for kicks I think this works out really well.

Thanks so much man! I have other ideas involving the smoke now, but on a different scale. This was fun once off, but the frustration involved with focus and with the smoke itself makes me hesitant to try doing this again.

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



whereismyshoe posted:

that picture made me reconsider whether or not i should suck it up and save for a little while longer to get a 5dII. stunningly crisp

e: also it's perfectly lit. good job

If you think that upgrading the body will get you crisper results then you are in desperate need to stop reading the gear threads here and elsewhere, where they push mega pixels and AF to not only consumers but apparently hobbyists too. There are at least 2 posters from this forum where I noticed they upgraded to newer bodies and spent 2-3 thousand dollars and yet their photos are still wholly underwhelming. Point of my little rant is: invest in optics not in bodies. A quality lens will give you crisp results.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Good photographers take good photographs, not good cameras. Gear helps but only so much.

Oprah Haza
Jan 25, 2008
That's my purse! I don't know you!

whereismyshoe posted:

that picture made me reconsider whether or not i should suck it up and save for a little while longer to get a 5dII. stunningly crisp

Crisp is not a function of the camera, it is a function of light and post processing.

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc
Upgrading your digital body will in fact increase the quality of your photo in an objective way. Think of it like using newer film stock, Portra 400 is sharper and finer grained than older Portra. Higher quality capture medium doesn't make a photo any better subjectively than one taken on older stuff but it will be sharper and higher resolution.

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



True, but lets say he's coming from a 450/550 series body (I have no idea what he is using) and wants to upgrade to 5D2. That will give him higher resolution photos but taken in the same style. So unless his style changes, the new camera will not produce better photos. Or crisper for that matter.

Lots of people on flickr or 500px use the old rebel bodies and their photos are great because of the idea/processing behind them FIRST and the quality of the medium second.

I agree with you that objectively he will get better photos with a better camera - in terms of image resolution and grain control, but not necessarily crispness.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Well that example specifically was not correct, full frame certainly has a higher image quality than crop sensors, but you could say that about say a 5d/5dii/5diii upgrade.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine


Reprocessed, wasn't happy with the plasticky-ness off the first iteration.

365 Nog Hogger fucked around with this message at 04:59 on May 26, 2012

LargeHadron
May 19, 2009

They say, "you mean it's just sounds?" thinking that for something to just be a sound is to be useless, whereas I love sounds just as they are, and I have no need for them to be anything more than what they are.

You strike me as the sort of photographer who puts a lot of thought into his photos, but it can be very difficult for someone who is not Reichstag to understand what is intentional and what is sloppiness. To my amateur eyes it is a harsh, overexposed scene of some hipster with his sheep/dog and most of a piano. It's quirky and interesting subject-wise, but the composition doesn't grab me and the midday sun/blown highlights make it hard to look at. I'm willing to admit that I probably just don't understand it.

rcman50166
Mar 23, 2010

by XyloJW
So I got hired to work at a photography studio as a photographer. I believe I'm qualified for the position. However it is one of those chain places that everyone gets Christmas photos in a mall. The rest of they year, kids and babies are more than half of their business. Anyone have tips on how to work with kids? I know you need to let your guard down and be a little silly with babies and toddlers, but I was wondering if anyone had some tricks to really get 'em smiling.

Gazmachine
May 22, 2005

Happy Happy Breakdance Challenge 4

rcman50166 posted:

So I got hired to work at a photography studio as a photographer. I believe I'm qualified for the position. However it is one of those chain places that everyone gets Christmas photos in a mall. The rest of they year, kids and babies are more than half of their business. Anyone have tips on how to work with kids? I know you need to let your guard down and be a little silly with babies and toddlers, but I was wondering if anyone had some tricks to really get 'em smiling.

All about the peekaboo with babies. Use the camera to hide behind and pop up, look surprised, pop down. After a few goes, you should have a laughing or grinning child, but be quick.

an AOL chatroom
Oct 3, 2002

Did some shots for a friend's band yesterday. I'm not *thrilled* with them, but the guys are, which is cool. It was hot as balls, so getting everyone to focus for even a few seconds was a real struggle.



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xenilk
Apr 17, 2004

ERRYDAY I BE SPLIT-TONING! Honestly, its the only skill I got other than shooting the back of women and calling it "Editorial".

bisticles posted:

Did some shots for a friend's band yesterday. I'm not *thrilled* with them, but the guys are, which is cool. It was hot as balls, so getting everyone to focus for even a few seconds was a real struggle.





Horizon is crooked on the second one (like from the fence in the background). I find there's less to play with when it comes to male models so I try to do different crop while shooting to give the shoot some "variety". I like their style, they sound like they must have been fun to shoot with!

My shoot yesterday was fun she wanted vertical full body pictures which forced me to think differently, which is always nice.


IMG_8470 by avoyer, on Flickr

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