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This Jacket Is Me
Jan 29, 2009

Ulio posted:

I wanted to know what are some good games with great atmosphere?

Games I liked because of this, Bioshock, Demon's Souls, Silent Hills.
What are some other? I have heard System Shock is great for this? I have Dead Space 2 but I can't bring myself to play it without having played the first. I have the Stalker games, I have played lots of the first but its quite broken even with patches/mods. Are older Resident Evil games good with this? Also other games I've thought about Condemned, FEAR. Are there any other ones and from those I mentioned are those good/worth playing because of the atmosphere?

Condemned (both 1 and 2, but 1 was better) series, Dead Space was okay but I mightily preferred Doom 3 for space horror, I've only played a little FEAR but what I saw was good, I'd also suggest STALKER series because no other game in my recent memory has such a variety of atmosphere while still remaining believable. If you want a real gem, but kind of old, definitely play VtMB.

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Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012

Vrikkian posted:

Have you played Deus Ex?

I kid, please don't ban me.

Anyway, serious question: what is the best Ultima, Might and Magic, and Jagged Alliance games? Never played any of the series, but I'm hoping that they haven't aged so badly that I can't try them and see why they are so highly regarded.
I'm a huge fan of the main Might and Magic games, but I never got to into the spin offs so here's a run down of the main series:

The Might and Magic 6-pack from GOG.com is hands down the best way to get into the series. 1 and 2 haven't aged very well, but are classic dungeon crawlers. 3 is probably the best to dip your foot into: It isn't terribly long, and it uses the same engine as 4-5. If you like 3, 4-5 is very similar with more polish and a much larger world. Fans of the early games tend to claim World of Xeen (Might and Magic 4-5 fused into one game) is the best. If MM3 seems too archaic, 6 introduces the real-time 2.5d engine used in 6-8. Get the Greyface patches for 6-8 before playing, as they fix a bug with the GL renderer. Some people like 6 more than 7, but 7 is my favorite of the later games and continues the plot from MM3. 8 is ok, but not being able to build a full party turns off some. Forget about 9 unless you've played the whole series front to back.

In short, get the 6 pack, try out 3. If you like the old school engine, 4-5 is the best. If you like newer engine from 6, it's a toss up which of them is best, but you'll be well served getting 7 in addition to the 6 pack. 8 has it's pros and cons, but 9 is crap.

Sonic H
Dec 8, 2004

Me love you long time

This Jacket Is Me posted:

Condemned (both 1 and 2, but 1 was better) series, Dead Space was okay but I mightily preferred Doom 3 for space horror, I've only played a little FEAR but what I saw was good, I'd also suggest STALKER series because no other game in my recent memory has such a variety of atmosphere while still remaining believable. If you want a real gem, but kind of old, definitely play VtMB.

Basically this. Personally I found the Dead Space games to be predictable, massively tedious and hugely lacking in atmosphere (huh, irony). Doom3 was far better in terms of lighting, atmosphere, pressure and "jumpy" scary, although the predictability of monster closets did start to grate after a while.

FEAR1 (not FEAR2 - that was poo poo) and its expansion Extraction Point were fantastic for atmosphere - I found them to be an excellent combination of action, horror and tension. And if it's atmospheric horror you're after, Amnesia: The Dark Descent (Steam) will make you absolutely poo poo your trousers. It's phenomenal. (Aside: if you're feeling sassy, you might also want to try the Penumbra games by Frictional too - they're sort of the predecessors to Amnesia, unconnected, but a similar gameplay idea).

If you don't mind a slower game then the Thief series are almost unmatched for atmosphere, unique game mechanics and story. Thief 2 is the best, but play all three in order for the full story experience.

More recently, Deus Ex: Human Revolution does a pretty good job of approximating the original (which as I'm sure you're aware was awesome) if you haven't played that.

Sonic H fucked around with this message at 11:27 on May 22, 2012

Vrikkian
Apr 26, 2010

I think I'm having a stroke...

CDG posted:

I get an odd kick out of games that involve building/improving some form of HQ - The castle from NWN2, the town in Assassin's Creed, the ship from Mass Effect, that sort of thing.

I've played most of the bigger releases that featured something like that though. Anything obscure/new/upcoming with something along those lines in the RPG/Action/Adventure category? Bonus points if there are recruiting side quests.

I don't know if this counts, but the Suikoden series have you taking over a castle, and there are TONS of recruiting quests to do.

Captain Mediocre
Oct 14, 2005

Saving lives and money!

CDG posted:

I get an odd kick out of games that involve building/improving some form of HQ - The castle from NWN2, the town in Assassin's Creed, the ship from Mass Effect, that sort of thing.

I've played most of the bigger releases that featured something like that though. Anything obscure/new/upcoming with something along those lines in the RPG/Action/Adventure category? Bonus points if there are recruiting side quests.

I share your taste. Only other thing I can think of (its old but it might count as obscure?) is Overlord though. Its pretty nice to upgrade your smouldering ruin into a sweet castle as the game progresses.

blowingupcasinos
Feb 21, 2006

Kilometers Davis posted:

I want to hack and slash or even shoot in third person while leveling up and getting loot or at least new abilities. iOS, 360, Wii. I might pick up Dante's Inferno. I know it got average reviews but it still seems cool.

Torchlight (360) or Dungeon Hunter (iOS). Both are Diablo clones - the team behind TL is composed of a lot of the guys behind Diablo 1 and 2. I only played the PS3 version of Dungeon Hunter (Dungeon Hunter Alliance), but it felt good to play. The combat felt better than click-to-kill probably because it was mash-attack-to-kill. The story blew, though.

There's also Xenoblade out now and Last Story coming out soon both for Wii. XB is more MMO type combat, but LS's manual mode is straight up hack and slash plus Final Fantasy.

This Jacket Is Me
Jan 29, 2009
I sill play the Dante's Inferno demo that I downloaded years ago. It seems a pretty competent game.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Recommend me something with an excellent crafting system (not a>b>c>d craft 1000 items MMO grinding system though). Bonus for post-apo or fantasy-medieval setting. And no, I'm not looking for an MMORPG.

VVV: Diablo is basically MMORPG in miniature, exactly the grindfest I hope to avoid. Plus, I hate the Diablo aesthetics.

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 18:42 on May 22, 2012

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

The Eastern Sun mod for Diablo 2 has a pretty crazy amount of crafting.

Brownie
Jul 21, 2007
The Croatian Sensation
What RPG's have really robust character creation and character development? MMORPG's need not apply.

Looking for PC here, the more graphical fidelity the better.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Brownie posted:

What RPG's have really robust character creation and character development? MMORPG's need not apply.

Looking for PC here, the more graphical fidelity the better.

What kind of robustness are we talking about here? Aesthetic robustness(probably Skyrim given how pretty you can make it look) or just hardcore stat crunching? If the latter, I think Temple of Elemental Evil(ugly) with Circle of Eight and Icewind Dale(still pretty!) are up your alley.

grumbster
Apr 19, 2004
Lord of the Fjord
I'm looking for a game where it's possible to help out in other people's saves, but not in real-time.

To elaborate, me and my wife like playing coop games, but lately our schedule has been off so our only coop has been sending each other stuff on lame facebook games. Dealing with energy constraints and harass-your-friends requirements is a big downer and we'd like a "real" game that sort of plays the same.

We've got PC, 360 and Wii.

Brownie
Jul 21, 2007
The Croatian Sensation

Fergus Mac Roich posted:

What kind of robustness are we talking about here? Aesthetic robustness(probably Skyrim given how pretty you can make it look) or just hardcore stat crunching? If the latter, I think Temple of Elemental Evil(ugly) with Circle of Eight and Icewind Dale(still pretty!) are up your alley.

Not stat crunching, more aesthetic and game play stuff. Stuff like skill trees and specialization is important, but I'm not looking for a spreadsheet simulator or anything.

DiminishedAngel
Jul 21, 2007

This Is My Story, Bitches

Pierzak posted:

Recommend me something with an excellent crafting system (not a>b>c>d craft 1000 items MMO grinding system though). Bonus for post-apo or fantasy-medieval setting. And no, I'm not looking for an MMORPG.

VVV: Diablo is basically MMORPG in miniature, exactly the grindfest I hope to avoid. Plus, I hate the Diablo aesthetics.

Not sure if you were looking for something PC-based, but the Atelier games for PS3 are one-half combat and one-half alchemy/crafting stuff for said combat.

4 inch cut no femmes
May 31, 2011

Pierzak posted:

Recommend me something with an excellent crafting system (not a>b>c>d craft 1000 items MMO grinding system though). Bonus for post-apo or fantasy-medieval setting. And no, I'm not looking for an MMORPG.

VVV: Diablo is basically MMORPG in miniature, exactly the grindfest I hope to avoid. Plus, I hate the Diablo aesthetics.

Arcanum, maybe, or the Witcher. Haven't played either of those for any meaningful length of time but maybe someone can elaborate.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
@DiminishedAngel: I'm looking for PC games.

@Humphrey Vasel: Finished Arcanum, the crafting system is pretty basic there, would like something more. I'll have to look into the Witcher, though.

kissekatt
Apr 20, 2005

I have tasted the fruit.

The Witcher doesn't really have much in the way of a crafting, it's just basic combine ingredients with certain elements to create certain potions.

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

The Witcher 2 is has a lot more crafting/Alchemy stuff but its not much better in terms of gameplay. Its still 'Find ingredients for a recipe' style stuff.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
So what is an example of a good crafting system?

Cardboard Fox
Feb 8, 2009

[Tentatively Excited]
I'm looking for a game like King's Bounty, except instead of going around and buying units to be replenished every 30 minutes, you have single units that you can train up, equip with gear, and have talent trees you can spend points in.

Basically, I just want another Final Fantasy Tactics. :smith:

Chinook
Apr 11, 2006

SHODAI

Fergus Mac Roich posted:

So what is an example of a good crafting system?

Something unique like Minecraft is always sort of nice, or a system where you experiment with ingredients and hope for good results, like Dragon Quest VIII, (or heck, even Diablo 3).

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben

Cardboard Fox posted:

Basically, I just want another Final Fantasy Tactics. :smith:

Played Tactics Ogre? Because Final Fantasy Tactics is a spiritual sequel to that, and TO is arguably even better. There's more customization in the PSP remake, which is better all around (aside from an awful crafting system), and I highly recommend playing some version of it.

Also the game is huge, it has perhaps the best story of any RPG I have ever played, and your choices actually matter—there are multiple paths and endings. Basically it's way, way more sophisticated than you would ever expect a JRPG from 1995 to be.

Rollersnake fucked around with this message at 21:06 on May 24, 2012

Cardboard Fox
Feb 8, 2009

[Tentatively Excited]

Rollersnake posted:

Played Tactics Ogre? Because Final Fantasy Tactics is a spiritual sequel to that, and TO is arguably even better. There's more customization in the PSP remake, which is better all around (aside from an awful crafting system), and I highly recommend playing some version of it.

Also the game is huge, it has perhaps the best story of any RPG I have ever played, and your choices actually matter—there are multiple paths and endings. Basically it's way, way more sophisticated than you would ever expect a JRPG from 1995 to be.

Yes, I've played Tactics Ogre on the original Playstation and GBA, just need a PSP for the remake.

I was just thinking with how King's Bounty and the Heroes series works, there would be either a giant mod or a whole different game based around that style of play using single units.

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll

CDG posted:

I get an odd kick out of games that involve building/improving some form of HQ - The castle from NWN2, the town in Assassin's Creed, the ship from Mass Effect, that sort of thing.

I've played most of the bigger releases that featured something like that though. Anything obscure/new/upcoming with something along those lines in the RPG/Action/Adventure category? Bonus points if there are recruiting side quests.
Little King's Story.

black.lion
Apr 1, 2004




For if he like a madman lived,
At least he like a wise one died.

I'm about to be on a plane for 10 hours total this weekend and want a new 3DS game - I have Ocarina of Time, but I played the cartridge into dust on the 64 and want a newer experience.

Would like to avoid games that have especially awkward or demanding control schemes, like having to constantly use the stylus to move around and stuff (of course moderate stylus use is alright and somewhat expected...)

Can anyone give opinions one way or another on, say, Super Mario World, Mario Kart, Metal Gear Solid: Devourer of Snakes... maybe Starfox? I played that into the ground too but maybe they've added new content?

TIA

Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007

I'm looking for games similar to Superhero League of Hoboken, an awesome, underrated game from 1994. Superhereos with mostly useless powers saving the post-apocalpytic tristate area from mutants. RPG/adventure game. Very well done, funny and atmospheric.

Music from SLH as Youtube videos, for nostalgia. Playthrough videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLC3Mp7zkd0

Dominoes fucked around with this message at 17:42 on May 25, 2012

rizuhbull
Mar 30, 2011

black.lion posted:

I'm about to be on a plane for 10 hours total this weekend and want a new 3DS game - I have Ocarina of Time, but I played the cartridge into dust on the 64 and want a newer experience.

Would like to avoid games that have especially awkward or demanding control schemes, like having to constantly use the stylus to move around and stuff (of course moderate stylus use is alright and somewhat expected...)

Can anyone give opinions one way or another on, say, Super Mario World, Mario Kart, Metal Gear Solid: Devourer of Snakes... maybe Starfox? I played that into the ground too but maybe they've added new content?

TIA
Haven't played any of the games you mentioned, but there's tons of great DS games. Must be some you haven't played yet.

Hotel Dusk: Room 215? It's a text heavy adventure game with a cool style and loveable characters.
Plants vs Zombies is on nearly every platform, so that if you haven't played it yet.
The World Ends With You if you have headphones. An action JRPG that uses the stylus in an acceptable manner.
GTA Chinatown Wars, Lego Star Wars, Okamiden, Fire Emblem, Harvest Moon, Ghost Trick. A genre would help.

black.lion
Apr 1, 2004




For if he like a madman lived,
At least he like a wise one died.

rizuhbull posted:

Haven't played any of the games you mentioned, but there's tons of great DS games. Must be some you haven't played yet.

Hotel Dusk: Room 215? It's a text heavy adventure game with a cool style and loveable characters.
Plants vs Zombies is on nearly every platform, so that if you haven't played it yet.
The World Ends With You if you have headphones. An action JRPG that uses the stylus in an acceptable manner.
GTA Chinatown Wars, Lego Star Wars, Okamiden, Fire Emblem, Harvest Moon, Ghost Trick. A genre would help.

I like pretty much any genre, though for this particular situation I'd prefer a more gameplay-focused and less story-focused sort of title.

I never did play the GTA for DS, maybe I'll give that a go... thanks for the suggestions!

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
GTA Chinatown Wars is awesome. Also, no list of great DS games is complete without Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan!

Ulio
Feb 17, 2011


Sonic H posted:

Basically this. Personally I found the Dead Space games to be predictable, massively tedious and hugely lacking in atmosphere (huh, irony). Doom3 was far better in terms of lighting, atmosphere, pressure and "jumpy" scary, although the predictability of monster closets did start to grate after a while.

FEAR1 (not FEAR2 - that was poo poo) and its expansion Extraction Point were fantastic for atmosphere - I found them to be an excellent combination of action, horror and tension. And if it's atmospheric horror you're after, Amnesia: The Dark Descent (Steam) will make you absolutely poo poo your trousers. It's phenomenal. (Aside: if you're feeling sassy, you might also want to try the Penumbra games by Frictional too - they're sort of the predecessors to Amnesia, unconnected, but a similar gameplay idea).

If you don't mind a slower game then the Thief series are almost unmatched for atmosphere, unique game mechanics and story. Thief 2 is the best, but play all three in order for the full story experience.

More recently, Deus Ex: Human Revolution does a pretty good job of approximating the original (which as I'm sure you're aware was awesome) if you haven't played that.

I will try out Doom 3, also is Metro 2033 a horror survivor ?

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

Ulio posted:

I will try out Doom 3, also is Metro 2033 a horror survivor ?

Sort of, its scarier than Doom 3 at any rate and atmospheric as all hell. Give it a try.

future ghost
Dec 5, 2005

:byetankie:
Gun Saliva

Nemesis Of Moles posted:

Sort of, its scarier than Doom 3 at any rate and atmospheric as all hell. Give it a try.
Thief 3 is a good atmospheric game as well. It's not particularly scary overall, although The Cradle level is balls-shiveringly-terrifying enough to compensate for the rest of the game. It's an older game, but the John P. texture pack makes it look pretty good for 2012.

future ghost fucked around with this message at 00:05 on May 27, 2012

Davos
Jul 1, 2011

DESERVING RECOGNITION
I'm in the mood for an adventure game but can't quite decide what to play. I want something that's got a good balance of story and comic relief, don't want anything too dry and serious nor too focused on wackiness and jokes. And please no Sierra games, I hate anything that forced me to start from the beginning because I forgot to pick up a cardboard tube 10 minutes in and made the game unwinnable for myself. Adventure games I've already played off the top of my head:
-Zork
-Grim Fandango
-Secret of Monkey Island 1 and 2
-The Longest Journey
-Chzo Mythos
-Torin's Passage
-Sam & Max
-Day of the Tentacle

Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007

Davos posted:

I'm in the mood for an adventure game but can't quite decide what to play. I want something that's got a good balance of story and comic relief, don't want anything too dry and serious nor too focused on wackiness and jokes. And please no Sierra games, I hate anything that forced me to start from the beginning because I forgot to pick up a cardboard tube 10 minutes in and made the game unwinnable for myself. Adventure games I've already played off the top of my head:
-Zork
-Grim Fandango
-Secret of Monkey Island 1 and 2
-The Longest Journey
-Chzo Mythos
-Torin's Passage
-Sam & Max
-Day of the Tentacle
-The Curse of Monkey Island (Monkey Island 3): Available with ScummVM. My favorite of the series

-Full Throttle: Another ScummVM Tim Schaefer game. Short, but good.

-Time, Gentlemen Please and Ben There, Dan That: Third party games made in the deliberate style of LucasArts Adventure games. Constant references to these games.

-The Myst Series, particularly Riven and Myst IV.

-Beneath a Steel Sky, a delightful, although a bit short, post-apocalpytic game, also works with ScummVM, and is available unambiguously (Full throttle, Monkey island etc are sort of abandonware) free from the ScummVM site and GoG.

All of these are phenomenal games that I'd recommend to anyone who likes Adventure games.

I'm looking for more recommendations as well. Just bought The Longest Journey and its sequel after looking through the games on your list. Started playing Longest Journey and it seems awesome so far.

I'm also looking for singleplayer games similar to Deus-Ex/Hitman Blood Money/System Shock 2.

Multiplayer games similar to Natural Selection, Quake Wars and Dystopia.

Should I buy Brutal Legend? I'd have to find some setup for my PS3 since I don't have a TV anymore and eyefinity monitor setup won't work. Is there an emulator?

Dominoes fucked around with this message at 02:57 on May 28, 2012

DOUBLE CLICK HERE
Feb 5, 2005
WA3

Davos posted:

I'm in the mood for an adventure game but can't quite decide what to play.

Down Under also came out recently, which I think is on the more smaller indie stores like Desura and GamersGate.

Pocket Billiards
Aug 29, 2007
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I loved Axelay back in the day. I'm playing through Rayman Origins at the moment and I really dig the 2D sidescrolling shooter levels. What would be a good title for Xbox 360, Wii or PC? I'm not looking for something absurdly difficult either.

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben

Pocket Billiards posted:

I loved Axelay back in the day. I'm playing through Rayman Origins at the moment and I really dig the 2D sidescrolling shooter levels. What would be a good title for Xbox 360, Wii or PC? I'm not looking for something absurdly difficult either.

Have you played Radiant Silvergun? That got a 360 port and is definitely the best scrolling shooter I've ever played. The game is consistently inventive from beginning to end (no reused bosses, and it barely even reuses normal enemies), is beautiful even today, and I can't imagine a fan of Axelay not loving it.

There is a bit of a learning curve (there are no powerups—you have all seven of your weapons at all times, and they get more powerful through use), and the game is absurdly difficult or close to it on anything but the easiest difficulty level, but you do have infinite continues in arcade mode. There's also a neat scoring mechanic based on killing only enemies of the same color in a row—you can completely ignore this, but it makes high score runs different and challenging. Basically you can enjoy the game fully regardless of what level you play at and how you choose to play it, which is really rare among shmups.

Rollersnake fucked around with this message at 09:45 on May 28, 2012

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


Can anyone recommend me a pc racing game with lots of customisation/rpg like stuff. I loved Need for Speed Underground when I had it on ps2 and have recently had cravings for something similar. There is such a huge number of need for speed and similar titles though that I have no idea which one to get.

My laptop only has a G210M for graphics so it can't be the latest and greatest, but anything more than a couple of years old should be playable.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Dominoes posted:

(Full throttle, Monkey island etc are sort of abandonware)
They are not. They're still sold as re-releases. I got mine as "Lucasarts Classic".

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An Actual Bear
Feb 15, 2012


pointsofdata posted:

Can anyone recommend me a pc racing game with lots of customisation/rpg like stuff. I loved Need for Speed Underground when I had it on ps2 and have recently had cravings for something similar. There is such a huge number of need for speed and similar titles though that I have no idea which one to get.

My laptop only has a G210M for graphics so it can't be the latest and greatest, but anything more than a couple of years old should be playable.

You could try Juiced I guess, it came out in 2006 so I imagine you can play it fine. No idea exactly how good it is but the whole game is all about tuning your car.

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