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Deedle posted:Why can't all cars be beautiful like this? Because they can't all be based on tube-framed silhouette racecars.
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BoostCreep posted:I think the new one looks pretty darn good. I personally liked the bigger, rounder headlights on the original refreshed version (2005-2007 or whatever) as I thought it really gave it an exciting retro look compared to the
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Deedle posted:
Bah, still not as good-looking as the original.  
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Throatwarbler posted:So I was talking about how Mazda is probably hosed and they need to find someone to own/partner with before the strong yen kills them, and I suggested that Chrysler/FIAT was the ideal partner. Wow indeed! New Alfa Spider on the way then...
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Cream_Filling posted:Bah, still not as good-looking as the original. Agreedo, the original is still incredible looking.
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Throatwarbler posted:So I was talking about how Mazda is probably hosed and they need to find someone to own/partner with before the strong yen kills them, and I suggested that Chrysler/FIAT was the ideal partner. Well. One one hand, this is pretty awesome, but on the other hand, that's going to postpone the next gen Miata by four years, making the NC 10-11 years old by the time the NDs start rolling out. I suppose they could just pull another NB to smooth things out a bit.
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Keyser S0ze posted:I personally liked the bigger, rounder headlights on the original refreshed version (2005-2007 or whatever) as I thought it really gave it an exciting retro look compared to the
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Krakkles posted:you're talking about fog lights, not headlights, and they're still an option, as they were before. I thought fog lights were supposed to be closer to the ground. Weren't the big grill lights in Mustangs just driving lights. edit: After some research you could indeed buy Mustangs with the grill lights and standard fog lights, so I think they are just driving lights. CornHolio fucked around with this message at 18:20 on May 23, 2012 |
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May 23, 2012 18:18
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I thought they were "driving" lights meant to mimic the 1969 Mach 1 that was the inspiration for the 2005 refresh. I don't think I've ever seen anyone using them on the road though. 2005: Rounder larger lights, more pronounced.  2013: more turn signal stripy thing going on, smaller headlights, more squished front, "sort of in a slight way" reverting back to 2004  2004: 
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May 23, 2012 19:10
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I can't believe they stopped making Kona Blue an option. And making those HID lights standard on the 2013 is a bummer too. 2010-2012 best mustangs. Mustangs are like the opposite of Golfs: only the odd generations are good looking.
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Yeah, I don't see why they didn't just stick with that 2010-2012 version for another 3 years. I will agree now that the 2005 really looks a bit dated, but it was such a violently needed change..........and it is the closest to a 69.
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May 23, 2012 19:48
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bidikyoopi posted:I can't believe they stopped making Kona Blue an option. Kona Blue went away due to the Japanese Earthquake/Tsunami. 
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Keyser S0ze posted:2013: more turn signal stripy thing going on, smaller headlights, more squished front, "sort of in a slight way" reverting back to 2004 bidikyoopi posted:2010-2012 best mustangs. The front of the 2013 GT above looks more like my 2012 V6 than the 2010-2012 GT above:  But yeah, the current Mustang body style is  obviously the best
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Looks like I might actually have order #1000 for Focus STs. Ford's also putting on a performance driving event at FedEx Field in July with them, so I'm going to that.
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Thwomp posted:Kona Blue went away due to the Japanese Earthquake/Tsunami. That's also what killed Lava Red, unfortunately.
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mobby_6kl posted:Well. One one hand, this is pretty awesome, but on the other hand, that's going to postpone the next gen Miata by four years, making the NC 10-11 years old by the time the NDs start rolling out. I suppose they could just pull another NB to smooth things out a bit. I'd bet anything the new MX-5 comes out next year, with a refresh 3-4 years later when the Alfas hit. I don't think Mazda can delay the new Miata anymore if they want to hold onto their market share.
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GOD IS BED posted:I'd bet anything the new MX-5 comes out next year, with a refresh 3-4 years later when the Alfas hit. I don't think Mazda can delay the new Miata anymore if they want to hold onto their market share. Speaking of that whole Alfa/Mazda joint miata thing, I don't know the details of the agreement but do you suppose later on we might see some sort of Dodge based off that like we did with the Dart? Or would Mazda have something in the agreement that prevented that so they can continue completely unopposed in the two seater rwd roadster under a zillion dollars in the USA market?
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davebo posted:Speaking of that whole Alfa/Mazda joint miata thing, I don't know the details of the agreement but do you suppose later on we might see some sort of Dodge based off that like we did with the Dart? Or would Mazda have something in the agreement that prevented that so they can continue completely unopposed in the two seater rwd roadster under a zillion dollars in the USA market? If we do we're all going to call it the MazDodge, okay?
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davebo posted:Speaking of that whole Alfa/Mazda joint miata thing, I don't know the details of the agreement but do you suppose later on we might see some sort of Dodge based off that like we did with the Dart? Or would Mazda have something in the agreement that prevented that so they can continue completely unopposed in the two seater rwd roadster under a zillion dollars in the USA market? Supposedly there are a few smaller, RWD platforms in development inside Fiysler already. Maybe not Miata sized, but the are rumors of a smaller 2dr RWD couple coming, possible with a 'cuda badge. There was also the Demon from 2007, that was supposedly seconds away from being built but Daimler was run by a bunch of inept crooks. http://www.allpar.com/cars/concepts/dodge/demon.html
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Mighty Horse posted:Supposedly there are a few smaller, RWD platforms in development inside Fiysler already. Maybe not Miata sized, but the are rumors of a smaller 2dr RWD couple coming, possible with a 'cuda badge. MazDodge is fine but Fiysler? Sometimes I have a hard time with all your wacky names, AI. But yeah I remember that Demon as being like a baby Viper and thought it was a great idea. I liked the idea of the Solstice/Sky too although I thought they were a bit large. Is it safety standards that make these 2 seaters so large or does it have to do with that rule about fitting 2 golf bags in the trunk? I saw the Sky trunk once and it seemed pretty useless, so I never understood why the Miata was so much smaller but fit the same amount of people/stuff. Speaking of Dodge, I know they split the Viper off under some "SRT" label, but do they have any plans to release other models under that name? Is that what that cuda will be?
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davebo posted:MazDodge is fine but Fiysler? Sometimes I have a hard time with all your wacky names, AI.
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Endless Mike posted:The Sky's trunk was so useless because the top folded into it. To be fair, it was pretty useless with the top up; it was just completely useless with it down.
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davebo posted:MazDodge is fine but Fiysler? Sometimes I have a hard time with all your wacky names, AI. Chrat? Chryfi? Fisler? There is no good option.
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KozmoNaut posted:Chrat? Chryfi? Fisler? chriat - pronounced "kree-at"
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Linedance posted:chriat - pronounced "kree-at" A Skoda+Fiat merger would have been so much better. "Fiasko".
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I'm not fully onboard with MazDodge; you don't just connect two first haves, see Toyo|baru for example. I think Dodzda or Doda for short would be much better.
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I won't be happy unless it has a rotary and a tendency to catch on fire.
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I do think that a Fiat-Chrysler-Mazda could easily build the most unreliable car of all time, if they so desired.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I do think that a Fiat-Chrysler-Mazda could easily build the most unreliable car of all time, if they so desired. Richard Hammond will love it.
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:What does the hivemind think about the Dodge Dart? Seems pretty spiffy to me. Any thoughts on how reliable/well put together it will be? Anyone have any experience with the 1.4 Multi-air or the transmission? I build these at the plant, have not driven one however. The leather on these cars is REALLY nice feeling but wayyyyy to soft I would worry about it ripping or wearing out fast. The interior on these cars is much nicer than anything Ford or Chevy have. I'm 6' 3" and i just hardly fit comfortably inside one, the seats don't go back very far. The front end and back end look really nice the side of the car looks really bland though, thats the only thing I don't like about it. If you have any other questions I can try to answer them.
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mobby_6kl posted:I'm not fully onboard with MazDodge; you don't just connect two first haves, see Toyo|baru for example. I think Dodzda or Doda for short would be much better. Madge?
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Modge.
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Moparspeed for in house tuning. Oh! Moparth!
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Rhyno posted:Moparspeed for in house tuning. Mopeerth?
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Morpeth, set up a rivalry with the Nissan factory in Sunderland.
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CornHolio posted:I thought fog lights were supposed to be closer to the ground. Weren't the big grill lights in Mustangs just driving lights. Those driving lights are one of the few things I *don't* like about my (New Edge) mustang ... I can't come up with a graceful way to put round driving lights in the grill. Which bothers me, because I really like that style.
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Mighty Horse posted:Supposedly there are a few smaller, RWD platforms in development inside Fiysler already. Maybe not Miata sized, but the are rumors of a smaller 2dr RWD couple coming, possible with a 'cuda badge. I think that's probably for the best. I might be remembering wrong, but wasn't the Demon going to be manufactured by Geely in a new partnership with the Chinese in an effort to save on costs or something?
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Looking forward to a new 80's retro Chrysler TC by Mazdarati.
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Naky posted:I think that's probably for the best. I might be remembering wrong, but wasn't the Demon going to be manufactured by Geely in a new partnership with the Chinese in an effort to save on costs or something? Yup. The only thing potentially less reliable than a Fiat-Chrysler-Mazda would be a Fiat-Chrysler-Mazda-Geely made in China. At that point, they'd be better off selling them in two-packs.
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I just realized I had forgotten something. There's no way a Geely Fiat Chrysler Mazda could possibly be worse than a British Leyland product.
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