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Diodeous posted:The new Lushlife album is pretty great and Cassette City (i might be wrong on that title) was incredible. Good look on the video I'm very keen on Lush, possibly because he's the only rapper thus far to @ me on twitter (altho Squadda B followed me) - it's kinda hipstery, summer, chillwave sound with him sounding hella like NaS over the top. He does pretty much all the production himself, and gets good unique features (CC has Ariel Pink & Elzhi on one track?!) http://lushlifemedia.bandcamp.com/album/no-more-golden-days is a good free sample, put me on him.
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Canadian white guy rap: Muneshine - There Is Only Today production from Buckwild, DJ Spinna, M-Phazes, Illmind, Boombaptist, and Muneshine also my homie Kydd has a guest verse on there (there's also an Emilio Rojas feature) youngallah fucked around with this message at 16:48 on May 29, 2012 |
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May 29, 2012 16:06
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npr > all commercial urban radio
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May 29, 2012 16:10
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There was a station on XM where I heard a lot of classic rap songs. Also RIP fatratradio.
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May 29, 2012 17:07
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aniero posted:npr > all commercial urban radio I have certainly heard more rap there than on the top40 type stations, or my small market town's one rap/r&b station.
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May 29, 2012 18:23
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tbh npr may be great, i dont know since i dont live in america. my only knowledge of npr is that they occasionaly stream very 'safe' black music like the roots, janelle monae and other boring poo poo like wilco so im probably being unfair but thats all i have to go on.
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farmtrill posted:tbh npr may be great, i dont know since i dont live in america. my only knowledge of npr is that they occasionaly stream very 'safe' black music like the roots, janelle monae and other boring poo poo like wilco so im probably being unfair but thats all i have to go on. quote:It's not that NPR doesn't like black music. It merely maintains a strict preference for black music that few actual living African-Americans listen to. That said, K.R.I.T. obviously represents a departure from that. I think over the past couple years NPR has been looking to change their reputation as being stodgy and distant when it comes to popular music (I've noticed this in more than just hip hop)
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May 29, 2012 19:46
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http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/inter...red-spot-in-mmgquote:DX: I saw you on the Smoker’s Club Tour last year perform on one leg. What was that experience like? this gets me. knock him for having an arguably over-saturated catalogue but you can't say he's not grindin. preordered the Stoned immaculate for the rolling tray  , and PTIII this year too? 
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May 29, 2012 19:48
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het posted:Apparently Slate hosed up their content management system so this is very difficult to read, but is an interesting insight from a couple years ago into NPR's relationship with music by black people: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2009/10/12/the_dorf_matrix_towards_a_theory_of_npr_s_taste_in_black_music.html yeah thanks for this, interesting read. was waiting for you to come and clarify the whole thing actually  new currensy + narduwar interview, another classic: http://youtu.be/O1DDBomEetA
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het posted:Apparently Slate hosed up their content management system so this is very difficult to read, but is an interesting insight from a couple years ago into NPR's relationship with music by black people: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2009/10/12/the_dorf_matrix_towards_a_theory_of_npr_s_taste_in_black_music.html Good article, thanks. K.R.I.T still kind of falls in the retro category, if 90's 'Kast and UGK count as retro yet. Their blog for hip-hop and r&b doesn't have a whole lot outside of the DORF: there's Cadence Weapon and Doomtree, and neither of them represent current hip-hop all that well. So at least here in the bay, KMEL plays way more rap than KQED.
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farmtrill posted:new currensy + narduwar interview, another classic: http://youtu.be/O1DDBomEetA Nardwuar has a disproportionate amount of influence on which rappers I like and not on a personal level. I just instantly like Pharrell and Curren$y and those who can handle him, meanwhile I kind of dislike Kid Cudi and Nas and those who can't. It's always good stuff anyway.
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May 29, 2012 21:48
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farmtrill posted:yeah thanks for this, interesting read. was waiting for you to come and clarify the whole thing actually Noz used to/still does write for NPR, so they've got at least one dude still locked in to more contemporary stuff. Although tbh I tend to think they usually go with "safe" choices and unfortunately I think krit's going to fall into that group. It sucks that he already lost his edge but I don't really have any high hopes for his album.
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May 29, 2012 23:27
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I actually first learned about Screwed & Chopped and lean thanks to an NPR report yeaaars ago. Prolly round... 01 or 02? So sometimes, they're on it.
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Svartvit posted:Nardwuar has a disproportionate amount of influence on which rappers I like and not on a personal level. I just instantly like Pharrell and Curren$y and those who can handle him, meanwhile I kind of dislike Kid Cudi and Nas and those who can't. It's always good stuff anyway. He always exposes the celebrities who believe in their own idiotic self image. I'm not surprised Mr. Moon Man and "Remember Illmatic" are foolios.
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Boywhiz88 posted:I actually first learned about Screwed & Chopped and lean thanks to an NPR report yeaaars ago. Prolly round... 01 or 02? So sometimes, they're on it. Same thing for me. NPR's music end has only gotten better the last few years with the addition of noz and less of a focus on showing established artists. NPR was talking about KRIT last year and I remember about 4-5 years ago (if not more) there was an interview with Killer Mike on Fresh Air where he talked about selling crack to his mother. I'd have to agree with het that NPR has been trying to get less stodgy in relation to hip-hop. I hadn't seen anyone talking about this, but what did you guys think about the Pusha/Wayne beef? http://www.spin.com/articles/whats-beef-lil-wayne-pusha-t-and-hip-hop-feud-biblical-proportions
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That article was from 2009. So, it's a little dated. 2009 was the year where everyone was fawning over Band of Horses and, as the article points out, dudes with guitars and beards. But, I think that trend has fallen off a bit and would be interested in seeing the 2011 & 2012 results. It's a listener poll, so think "hipsters". I did enjoy the article despite the lovely formatting. OK, here's a tl:dr post that tells you a little about me and my background and justifies my earlier opinion. I've worked in radio for 11 years. 4 of those years have been working with NPR affiliated stations. One in Detroit (WDET, current) and one in Mid Michigan (WCMU 2008-2010): two extremely different regional demographics. The article is exactly correct in that NPR does court a more educated predominantly white middle/upper class audience. I don't think anyone will deny that. But I'd like to try and shed some light as to why they would skew that way: because NPR stations can't fund their radio station with advertising dollars like commercial radio, the bulk of their budget comes from federal grants for NPR/PBS and listener donations. There are federal regulations enforced by the FCC as to how much a noncommercial station can make in underwriting (technically different then advertising but functionally the same thing). Look at any piece about fundraising written in the last...I dunno, forever. It's much more challenging to get poorer people to donate money of any amount. It's a lovely fact and I'm sure some graph on the internet somewhere can say I'm wrong, but I think this is common sense and might help you understand why NPR skews the way it does. That being said, consider the tone of most of the programming produced by NPR (Fresh Air, All Things Considered, Morning Edition). I hear, in my head, Terry Gross' voice over a Clams Casino or Blue Sky Black Death beat...and it just doesn't work. I mean, you could fire her...but she's pretty good at her job. So what would you want from a NPR station to lend it credibility? A lot of NPR affiliates have weekly or daily shows that they produce which has a huge variety of content. Don't get me wrong, I totally get the DORF Matrix point, because even as someone whose worked at this poo poo I can't name a single NPR affiliated show that exclusively does hip hop. There's shows that include hip hop: The World Cafe, The Sound of Young America, Soundcheck (they just did an interview/segment about Jean Grae last week that was pretty awesome). So, I'd love to hear anyone's opinions on this. I'm legitimately curious and always kind of wanted to ask in this thread, and now seems like a great time since we're talking about it. Last thought: I've always thought a mixtape based radio show would be awesome because of the breadth of content that exists, poo poo new mixtapes drop all the time. But there's also this thing of: you have to edit most/all of those songs to abide by FCC rules (actually a lot of loving work and rarely do mixtapes get the studio radio edit), and are there any legal ramifications for spotlighting an uncleared sample? I know a lot of that poo poo flies under the radar of the copyright holder. Getting some 17 year old rapping in his moms basement that happened to jack a hot sample sued by the RIAA isn't exactly a producers objective. (edit)Last last point: I can only stand so much Watch The Throne/Big Sean/Beez In The Trap/"I beat the beat the up"/Kirko Bangz/Drake. Commercial radio has that poo poo on lock and doesn't let go until the songs are deader then the real Kurt Cobain. Yeah, tl:dr aniero fucked around with this message at 02:30 on May 30, 2012 |
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Diodeous posted:I had this discussion the other day with a friend and I can't see how KRIT is the spiritual successor of Pimp C anymore. He borrows heavily from the same aesthetic, but Pimp C never really talked about social issues with the same sort of depth or awareness as KRIT demonstrates. mayne hold up!!! I'll agree that Krizzle goes farther with it but Pimp C did talk about social problems. The two verses that immediately spring to mind are Hi Life and his second from Diamonds and Wood off of Ridin Dirty but he stayed with that poo poo up through the double album (How Long Can It Last, Shattered Dreams, Heaven, Living This Life). "Tired of livin' hosed up, tired of livin' bad/ tired of hearin' grandmama tell me 'When you gonna go to church, Chad?'"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D-SmBAY7c0 anyway I don't like the new Gucci tape as much as Trap Back either but it's definitely listenable all the way. just now starting to stream KRIT and the first track is straight
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Jock Mocken posted:mayne hold up!!! poo poo, you ain't even have to go farther than the first track of Ridin' Dirty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu5P4pOUuYk You could even consider stuff like "Feel Like I'm The One That's Doing Dope" or "Pocket Full of Stones" on that same tip. I used to really sleep on Pimp but man, we lost a great artist in him.
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May 30, 2012 03:25
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Nardwuar vs Kreyshawn is pretty awkward. Nardwuar vs Ghostface is funny as hell. I respect how Nardwuar keeps his character.
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Jock Mocken posted:mayne hold up!!! Here's the thing that a lot of people don't understand-80% of rappers talk about "social problems" at some point by default. Bu it's all about presentation. Krit sounds "softer" so people are more ready to say he's talking about social issues.
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Like pretty all his other material since KRIT Wuz Here, I thought Live From the Underground was extremely hit and miss. I think KRIT's biggest problem is that he tries to be something he's not. His hooks can be really contrived, and a lot of his stuff comes out borderline awkward. There's a few tracks that I'm hugely impressed with, so it's obviously that he's got it in him.
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May 30, 2012 07:52
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I give Big K.R.I.T. a point everytime he doesn't use the word "candy" in his songs. He has about 5 points.
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Well I've pre-ordered Live From The Underground and The Stoned Immaculate for the same reason. Thanks for the music dudes.
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 Official video for El-P's "The Full Retard"Wanna hang with that rodent. Also, goddamn, El-P Real Name Grover fucked around with this message at 18:02 on May 30, 2012 |
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May 30, 2012 18:00
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I bought them both and have been playing Cancer 4 Cure and R.A.P. Music nonstop lately, getting hard to like other rap that's coming out now. I mean, that track from Skelethon was cool, I'm still looking forward to that coming out, and I guess some of the mixtapes lately have an occasional good track too (a lot of them just aren't my thing, though, so that's not entirely fair). But regardless, unbelievably good pair of albums and collaborative work. Sound great back to back because of the consistent production but the interesting differences in subject matter and delivery. I don't remember really connecting with any of El-P's rap on his or other tracks between Fantastic Damage and Cancer 4 Cure, though his production has always been really solid. Maybe I should give some of his other material another shot. And I am unfamiliar with Killer Mike's work except for some guest spots I vaguely remember, what's good to look up from his back catalog?
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Definitely get Pledge Allegiance to the Grind II. I don't remember any of his other albums being as consistent, but they all have cool rear end tracks on 'em.
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personally I'm a fan of Ghetto Extraordinary, Killer Mike's second album that was shelved in 2005 due to label drama. My Chrome still managed to get the single/video treatment though (I think it was maybe on the same Purple Ribbon comp as Kryptonite) and is dope like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tumrv2eJWCU Mike managed to put it out for free through HipHopDX a few years later to promote Pledge II. Their download is dead, but here's a mediafire mirror. It's got some dope Dungeon Family production from ONP, Mr. DJ, and 3 Stacks plus a guest appearance and beat from Three 6 at the tail end of their great early 21st century run. The joints with Ball & G and Mash Out Posse go hard too. 
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Thanks for sharing the link, that is really good - his flow is great, cool to see that he can work with different production styles equally well. This thread is awesome, really appreciate all the recommendations. I've got better music now than I've had in years, thanks to everybody willing to help/educate.
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I'm finally listening to "I'm Up" and I gotta agree, Gucci is back in form. These beats are dope. I haven't really listened too hard but I'm feeling the poo poo I catch while I'm working right now. Gucci's mixtapes have always been the highlight of his career, although Hard to Kill is the exception to that rule. I didn't get into Trap Back too much but I can see my banging this like Mr. Zone 6 or some Jewelry Selection. To be fair, I have "BURR" as my text ringtone so maybe I'm just a Stan. Also, I agree with Jock Mocken's description of Three 6's career. Now I just find it funny how big Juicy J is getting while Paul ain't put out anything that's come NEAR my radar.
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I was travelling the other day and ended up listening to I'm Up some more. The beats are more interesting and the features are great. Trap Boomin, Scarface and Plain Jane w/fts all own. Get Lost as well.
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phractured posted:I give Big K.R.I.T. a point everytime he doesn't use the word "candy" in his songs. He has about 5 points. Candy paint wood grain grippin wheel old south dirty chevy leather I say!!
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Just wanted to chime in and share my useless opinion: "I'm Up" is great.
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drat that republican supporting white businessman sure showed that black rapper who really has the power.
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It's cool that he responded to the rapper at all.
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I wonder if the hard part was acting on Degrassi or cashing a giant check off one mix tape...
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The Pepsi commercial must've been a back breaker.
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snyprmag posted:I wonder if the hard part was acting on Degrassi or cashing a giant check off one mix tape... One tape? That wasn't the first he put out.
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That tweet is awesome and Drake sucks so w/e. Also I've been clearing out some backlog of stuff I had delayed listening to or got overshadowed by other things and wanted to comment on. I was kinda meh on the new Ab-Soul album until it hit "The Book of Soul" and that raised my opinion of it immensely. That sample is just killer. Production is solid throughout, and so is Ab-Soul but he's just lacking something I think Kendrick and Schoolboy Q have that makes them interesting. And don't know who recommended the Quelle Chris album but that is really really good. Maybe a bit too many guests, but they tend to hold up pretty well so it's not so much a detraction than something that doesn't let Chris really shine. Album kinda reminds me of an Insight album with a bit more of an edge. The La album someone linked earlier also is very nice. Dude can rhyme his rear end off. Production is definitely workmanlike at best though. Still a solid listen, but I'd really like to hear him over another producer. And it's not really rap, but Blockhead's new album is super-good and it's a shame that he didn't have someone rapping over it because his production is real nice. Not that it's not good on it's own, but it's just a shame Aesop is gonna produce a bunch of junk that will sound like a retarded mix of wannabe Blockhead and El-P when there's a whole album of quality here just waiting to be used.
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an skeleton posted:One tape? That wasn't the first he put out. Alan, you talking about Shotgun and Sleek Rifle? I think I brought that up. His 2DirtforTv Ep from this year was good too but has a lot of interludes. Blockhead has a free EP coming out with Illogic next week that I'm pretty excited about. I posted the first video from it and here's the second, music doesn't start till a minute in though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCBvaN8ECzs
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