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Manky posted:Isn't it though?? I picked up another bottle today, honestly found it hard not to get more than just one. I think I'll wait to open it until the weather is nice enough out to grill, though. Or at least when there isn't a fuckin' tornado warning in effect. What the hell, Lancaster County. Hell yeah. I just tried it for the first time with a couple burgers off the grill and drat. I took a sip and just started chugging after that. Great.
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zedprime posted:Because keeping poo poo around for 9 months that you don't need to costs a whole lot of money.
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Angry Grimace posted:I tend to doubt that. It's just sitting in unreusable barrels and they don't make enough of it for it to really consume a large amount of space in their brewery. Seems like it would be easier to just time the release for Imperial Stout season. Perhaps they're releasing it now specifically because there aren't any other big stouts coming out right now? I've never had Parabola - going to pick up two on the way home from work and see what the hubbub is all about.
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Some people also drink stouts year round. That being said I'm way too full to crack the Brooklyn Chocolate in the fridge right now.
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Jun 1, 2012 23:51
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Angry Grimace posted:I tend to doubt that. It's just sitting in unreusable barrels and they don't make enough of it for it to really consume a large amount of space in their brewery. Seems like it would be easier to just time the release for Imperial Stout season.
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zedprime posted:Its not just space, its refrigerated space. Even just space costs a lot. Noone wants to pay $x per y square foot just to keep around beer that will fly off the shelves before people are even aware it was released. I suppose it doesn't matter to them on a financial level, but I suppose my original point still stands that I think the very beginning of Summer is a weird time to release an Imperial Stout. wattershed posted:Perhaps they're releasing it now specifically because there aren't any other big stouts coming out right now?
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brothers, yesterday a simply massive Wine Warehouse opened in my city which also features a monstrously big craft beer selection. They are blasting a stellar mix-a-six selection of singles, tons of bombers, and have a walk-in fridge that had sixth-kegs of Big Eye, Finest Kind, and other red-hot brews. I'm going to get diabetes or end up in AA after finding this place. Soon they will have Victory at Sea and Sculpin, two all-time favorites I have trouble finding locally. My mix-a-six contains such hits as: - Ballast Point Big Eye - Smuttynose Big A - Heavy Seas Marzen - Widmer Bros Drifter Pale Ale - Widmer Bros Weizen Beer - The Hartford Better Beer Co Arch IPA (local CT dudes makin' beer) I've never had any of these before and am excited. Weekends rule.
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Maybe Widmer's Weizen has gotten better but that poo poo was capital B Bland when I tried it 4 years ago. EDIT: And I mean, this is when I was just getting out and exploring with SNPA and I thought I was this bland, not like I was all about sours and thought that. I found a store near me that had Great Divides 16th 17th and 18th anniversary oak aged DIPA, and I picked up all three. I can't decide which order to drink them in, youngest to oldest to compare aging, or vice versa to compare freshness. What I'm trying to say is I'm being an rear end in a top hat. Darth Goku Jr fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jun 2, 2012 |
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Ah, two-week-old Deviant Dale's. Last time I drank it, it was...too much. Still kind of like getting slapped in the mouth with a dick made of hops. And I mean that in the good way
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Ah, a Friday night alone... Weyerbacher's Blithering Idiot: sweet, common tasting barleywine. Whomever was looking for a good example of the style might look here, if available. Weyerbacher's Insanity: Something else altogether. Bourbon-aged barleywine with a subtle booze heat. I had this on tap in South Carolina a few months ago and I wasn't too impressed. Tonight is a little different. Lots of suspension that wasn't there in draft. Not nearly as bitter. Not the best BBA'd version of the style, but very, very good. And this is where I give praise to the state of Wisconsin for 1) being close and 2) having stuff I can't get.
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Two new beers tonight. Ballast Point Big Eye IPA - What a solid beer. Great example of the style. Super balanced. I tend to prefer more hop-forward beers and this was maltier than my go-to IPAs. I'd buy this again and would like to try it on draft. Heavy Seas Marzen - I haven't had many Marzens, but my favorite (Berkshire Oktoberfest Marzen) is much sweeter and a thicker mouthfeel, so by that metric this beer feels sort of thin and not sweet enough. I enjoy it but am glad I got one bottle and not a sixpack.
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WEIHENSTEPHANER HEFEWEISSE BIER SO GOOD The best end-of-week beer possible. Oh man.
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mysterious frankie posted:WEIHENSTEPHANER yeah, it's pretty much the gold standard for the style. Schneider Weisse is also really good if you haven't had it, and SN's Kellerweis is my favorite American example. drinking a JP Oro de Calabaza and i would like it a lot more if it weren't so damned carbonated. seriously, the aftertaste is just CO2, pretty much like getting a fountain soda where the syrup has run out.
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funkybottoms posted:yeah, it's pretty much the gold standard for the style. Schneider Weisse is also really good if you haven't had it, and SN's Kellerweis is my favorite American example. I'll have to check em out. Hefe's my favorite session style, but I haven't had too many European examples. I think Hacker-Pschorr's is the limit of what I've tried and then 80% of the rest have been pub-only GI stuff.
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Weihenstephaner Hefe in a bottle is pretty good. They can end up a bit old for the style though what with the importing. I had it on draft once and it was unbelievable. It might have been fishing for tips or whatever, but the waitress had no idea what I said the first time but picked up enough to ask between the bartenders and the cooks and I guess it was a favorite between all of them too.
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mysterious frankie posted:WEIHENSTEPHANER The hefe is so goddamn good. Best I've ever had. That said, you really should try their hefeweiss dunkel, which is by FAR the best dunkelweiss I've ever had, and IMO the best beer that Weihenstephan makes. I had one two nights ago after a particularly rough day at work, and I just about passed out after the first sip it was so goddamn perfect.
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TenaciousTomato posted:Summer Love is great. If anyone in Northern VA finds any please let me know. edit: Hmm, how accurate is Total Wine.com's stock checker? Seems as though a local TW has it. Munkaboo fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Jun 2, 2012 |
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Jun 2, 2012 03:23
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Grabbed two bottles of Parabola, went to two different places but I wanted one for now and one for later. Also splurged on a bottle of Cascade's Sang Noir, haven't had a sour in a while and heard enough good things about this one to give it a try. Anyone try the Sang Noir and care to suggest if I should have it now or sit on it for a while?
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Jun 2, 2012 03:42
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wattershed posted:Anyone try the Sang Noir and care to suggest if I should have it now or sit on it for a while? Does the shop you bought it at happen to have more? I'd love to get my hands on a couple bottles. I'd make it worth your while...
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Phewww, Lagunitas Lucky 13.alt is really good. It also goes incredibly well with: chocolate and caramel; chocolate and peanut butter. (I.e. I'm drinking and eating candy, haha.) e: Opened up a Bell's Oberon. I guess it's the "spicy hop character" but what is wrong with me, I taste catsup. Manky fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Jun 2, 2012 |
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Jun 2, 2012 04:00
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Corbet posted:Does the shop you bought it at happen to have more? I'd love to get my hands on a couple bottles. I'd make it worth your while... They only had one on the shelf...if history's any indication with their rarer stuff they tend to keep the stock out on the shelf, but I'll keep an eye out for next time.
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Manky posted:e: Opened up a Bell's Oberon. I guess it's the "spicy hop character" but what is wrong with me, I taste catsup. You're lucky you taste anything, I can't  I've been able to drink a lot of beer recently through a variety of celebrations and have been having a pretty good time doing it. I finally got to my chocolate oak-aged yeti and it was indeed delicious. My only complaint was that there wasn't quite enough cayenne or hop to break up the bitterness of the chocolate and roast malts. A little age would have done it wonders, but I grew impatient. I had a batch of the always delicious Lil' Sumpin Sumpin, and finally got to try Mama's Little Pils which is also pretty delicious. Great Divide blew me away with Nomad and DPA though. Both are full-throated, deliciously malty and hoppy beers. Complex, yet extremely drinkable. I also had some of Oskar Blues' Gordon, which is a decent imperial red. I'm probably just not a huge fan of the style, but it just tasted like a decent, alcohol-y brown ale. Not bad, but nothing special either. Lagunitas' CENSORED copper ale was better, more balanced, and had a little bit more body to it and I enjoyed that thoroughly. I also got to try Bigfoot for the first time recently. For a barleywine it is incredibly drinkable. The piney hops really stand out and make it easy to take down all 12 ounces, with the malts being present but not overpowering. Slight age on one would be perfect. My main two thumbs down this week have to be both Ta Henkey and Aphrodite. I couldn't have more than 2 sips of either. Ta Henket was just not up my ally, but I can't stand Aphrodite. It's just one of the worst, overspiced winter beers I've ever had. Luckily I had it at a beer tasting, so only 4 oz was wasted.
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That Rayon Vert was really tasty, especially after warming a bit. It was like a slightly heftier Duvel: sweet, dry, slightly spicy hops. And excellent lacing. I also tried an on-tap Shipyard Monkeyfist. Definitely better than the bottle I got several weeks ago. Kind of English style but the hops were dry enough to be a convincing IPA, unlike their Fuggles IPA, which is straight up Brit and is more like a resiny, mild pale ale.
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I intended to open a bunch of summer seasonals tonight - purely work-related research, of course - but then I remembered I still have Ballast Point Sculpin and I have no self-control...
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wattershed posted:Anyone try the Sang Noir and care to suggest if I should have it now or sit on it for a while? Sang Noir is great right now. It can definitely age a bit, but I don't know that it will get significantly better.
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Jun 2, 2012 05:01
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Do bottles of Speedway Stout have a bottled date on them? Because if not it's kind of dumb that they even bother putting "age this for 6-24 months" on the bottle.
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Mahoning posted:Do bottles of Speedway Stout have a bottled date on them? Nope. Their updates to their bottling line late last year were supposed to lead to bottle dates but that didn't happen. The coffee in SS is predominant enough that I wouldn't recommend sitting on it for too long. Obviously flavors will evolve but it prides itself on being such a coffee-forward stout that you wouldn't want to lose that essence.
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TenaciousTomato posted:Some people also drink stouts year round. This is me, as long as it's a cool night I can drink a stout, and cool is relative. I bought a case of Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout today for $30 due to a store trying to get rid of a case that wouldn't sell, I love stupid stores. The same store still has Great Lakes Blackout Stout so I bought the last 4 pack and I also bought their last 2011 Parabola. I love stouts and will drink them year round on the right night, tonight is a thunderstorm so what better time to crack a Black Chocolate Stout? I haven't seen 2012 Parabola yet, but New Jersey is over saturated with Firestone Walker's stuff for some reason and I can still get XIV, 2011 Abacus, and 2011 Parabola on the shelf. Union Jack was supposed to be rare, but 6 packs are still rampant. I will probably spend a paycheck buying the last of the 2011 Firestone Walkers next week and grabbing as many 2012 Parabolas as I can because I love them all and gently caress if I'm going to let some idiot who says, "oh this is 10%+ ABV and in a box," buy it to "get hosed up."
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Midorka posted:I love them all and gently caress if I'm going to let some idiot who says, "oh this is 10%+ ABV and in a box," buy it to "get hosed up." I seriously doubt there are people dumb enough to pay $15+ per bottle for Parabola just because they can "get hosed up" on it.
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Midorka posted:I haven't seen 2012 Parabola yet, but New Jersey is over saturated with Firestone Walker's stuff for some reason and I can still get XIV, 2011 Abacus, and 2011 Parabola on the shelf. Union Jack was supposed to be rare, but 6 packs are still rampant. I will probably spend a paycheck buying the last of the 2011 Firestone Walkers next week and grabbing as many 2012 Parabolas as I can you've posted about this before and it still surprises me- if you end up with a couple extra XIVs or 2012 Parabolas, i'd love to work out a trade.
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Yeah, that's pretty much what Natty Daddy and Tilt are for. Or Franzia.
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 Had a little tasting last night. Otiose, Darkness, and the Perfect Storm were the highlights. Jai Alai and the Cuvee were both disappointing. Paul Proteus fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Jun 2, 2012 |
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danbanana posted:I seriously doubt there are people dumb enough to pay $15+ per bottle for Parabola just because they can "get hosed up" on it. You'd be surprised, I've had people come in asking for DFH120 Minute or other high alcohol beers and walk out with Miller Light when we only have Golden Monkey. funkybottoms posted:you've posted about this before and it still surprises me- if you end up with a couple extra XIVs or 2012 Parabolas, i'd love to work out a trade. I'll let you know when I go to the stores again, they are out of the way but they are in bad areas where no one appreciates craft beer. They had 5 XIV last time I bought one which has me scratching my head as well. 2012 Parabola hasn't hit year yet, but I'll let you know when it does since there will probably be a lot extra around here.
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Its impossible that anyone would ever let ABV influence their purchasing patterns and enjoyment of beer. Oh wait. I'll go ahead and admit I am just really bitter about the ABV inflation because all my favorite styles are session ones.
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In-general higher ABV beers have more flavor, I know that's a general statement that someone here is going to throw a fit over, but really looking at a 6% IPA and a 9% IIPA the IIPA is going to have more flavor. Is it really odd considering the overly artificial flavored poo poo foods the average American grew up on? I love imperial stouts though and they almost always get high ratings from me because I love the intensity of them.
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Please to be defining "more flavor" and how it relates to one beer being better than another.
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withak posted:Please to be defining "more flavor" and how it relates to one beer being better than another. "Is it really odd considering the overly artificial flavored poo poo foods the average American grew up on?" Do you honestly expect the average American who drink 30g sugar/12 ounce Coke can more than once daily to appreciate a session beer?
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I don't know. On an anecdotal level it'd always been about getting hosed up. I was guilty of that in college too. I only had so much beer money and did the shameful quick mental math of booze per dollar. There was a lot of Mad Monk going around with friends even though generally everyone agreed it was pretty bad. The next anecdotally popular was "well bud light is like 4% therefore the more abv means it is a better beer because it is less like bud light."
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"Session" is not a word describing mouth feel, body, or the absence/abundance of flavor and aroma. "Session" also doesn't have it roots in American drinking culture, as you can read here: http://beeradvocate.com/articles/653 Though typically it now means any beer under 5% ABV. I would also really like to know how you can quantify increased ABV as "more flavor". I don't really know what drinking sugary beverages has to do with anything at all. Are you trying to say that just because you drink Coke you have an unrefined palate? Sirotan fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jun 2, 2012 |
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Perfectly Cromulent posted:Sang Noir is great right now. It can definitely age a bit, but I don't know that it will get significantly better. Paul Proteus posted:Had a little tasting last night. Otiose is loving awesome and I'm sad I only have a couple left. Sirotan posted:I would also really like to know how you can quantify increased ABV as "more flavor". quote:I don't really know what drinking sugary beverages has to do with anything at all. Are you trying to say that just because you drink Coke you have an unrefined palate? Americans, by contrast, prefer sweet to bitter to an overwhelming amount and tend to like intense, uncomplicated flavors. There is an argument to be made that it's because we're raised on super-sugary beverages and foods soaked in artificial flavors; whether it's a valid one is still being debated in scientific circles. Doesn't really matter for the core point being made: Americans generally prefer bolder flavors, and due to malt concentrations influencing intensity of flavor we also tend to prefer heavier, higher-alcohol beers. There are exceptions, of course, but the trend is strong enough to influence data aggregation sites like BA.
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