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movax posted:2560x1600 in 15" is loving glorious, but goodbye sweet dream of gaming at native panel resolution on the go. Not the concern for most Mac users, but still sucks. You can't game at native resolution right now either.
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# ? Jun 6, 2012 17:52 |
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Installed my SSD just now, don't have much to say about it yet except that I was under the impression that my boot up time would be nearly instant, but it's not. User the timer on my iPhone it took me about 50 seconds from when I pressed the power button to getting to my desktop. Take off some seconds where I had to type in my username/password and it's still ~45 seconds from power on to desktop. Is this as good as it gets or am I doing something wrong? MBP 13" 2010 base model by the way.
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# ? Jun 6, 2012 21:04 |
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Sounds about right for a Core 2 Duo. 4GB of RAM? Edit: My i5 Air gets 22 seconds to desktop + dock. kuskus fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jun 6, 2012 |
# ? Jun 6, 2012 21:06 |
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kuskus posted:Sounds about right for a Core 2 Duo. 4GB of RAM? Oops no, upgraded to 8 GB recently. The only thing I can think of is when I cloned with CCC from the old hard drive to the new SSD I didn't turn off FV2 so I don't know if that would have any affect. Right now I have FV2 disabled on the SSD though (well it was automatically disabled, because I guess I can't enable it without the recovery partition which wasn't cloned). Don't know if I should try recloning again with FV2 explicitly turned off before but it took an hour…
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# ? Jun 6, 2012 21:09 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:Oops no, upgraded to 8 GB recently. FV2 is disabled because 1) it is completely transparent to CCC which just clones what the filesystem presents to it and 2) you don't have a recovery partition anymore. There is no point in cloning again because the result is the same with or without FV2. If you are going to want to use FV2, you will need to do a regular install and then restore from a time machine backup or similar.
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# ? Jun 6, 2012 21:43 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:Installed my SSD just now, don't have much to say about it yet except that I was under the impression that my boot up time would be nearly instant, but it's not. User the timer on my iPhone it took me about 50 seconds from when I pressed the power button to getting to my desktop. Take off some seconds where I had to type in my username/password and it's still ~45 seconds from power on to desktop. That doesn't sound right. Which SSD do you have? I put in a Crucial M4 in my 2011 MBP and it booted up in 15 seconds.
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# ? Jun 6, 2012 21:55 |
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Mu Zeta posted:That doesn't sound right. Which SSD do you have? I put in a Crucial M4 in my 2011 MBP and it booted up in 15 seconds. He's running a 2010 13" MBP, which is a C2D according to Mac Tracker, so I imagine it's going to be a bit slower. Still, 45 seconds does sound like spinny disk speeds. The 830 in my 15" 2010 gets me from cold boot to usable desktop in 25 seconds, including typing in my 27 character FV2 passphrase. Oneiros fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jun 6, 2012 |
# ? Jun 6, 2012 22:03 |
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Mu Zeta posted:You can't game at native resolution right now either. Well, at least 1680x1050 is within the realm of possibility
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# ? Jun 6, 2012 22:18 |
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Mu Zeta posted:That doesn't sound right. Which SSD do you have? I put in a Crucial M4 in my 2011 MBP and it booted up in 15 seconds. I have the same Crucial m4 @ 256 GB. When people talk about boot speeds are they only starting at the chime or when you press the power?
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# ? Jun 6, 2012 22:21 |
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Mu Zeta posted:That doesn't sound right. Which SSD do you have? I put in a Crucial M4 in my 2011 MBP and it booted up in 15 seconds. A 2010 shouldn't be far behind. I am pretty sure there's a video of my 2010 Pro booting with an Intel X-25 or 320 SSD in it, but it's in either the old SSD or Mac thread - and I don't have archives
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# ? Jun 6, 2012 22:23 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:I have the same Crucial m4 @ 256 GB. When people talk about boot speeds are they only starting at the chime or when you press the power? I count after the chime.
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# ? Jun 6, 2012 22:33 |
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I'm kind of hoping that 2560x1600 resolution isn't correct for the 15" MBP, because that's only effectively 1280x800 in HiDPI mode.
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# ? Jun 6, 2012 22:38 |
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I have a 2010 13" with 8gb of ram and a Corsair F115 SSD. Boots in 15-20 seconds, something is up with your setup... then again the first or two reboots of a new install are slow. Also, spilled a whole bottle of water onto my MBP about 10 minutes ago - it immediately powered off. My life flashed before my eyes. Pulled it apart and dried it, still works.
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# ? Jun 6, 2012 22:40 |
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Mercurius posted:I'm kind of hoping that 2560x1600 resolution isn't correct for the 15" MBP, because that's only effectively 1280x800 in HiDPI mode. This is why the 13" still has a 1280x800 screen!
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# ? Jun 6, 2012 23:35 |
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cbirdsong posted:This is why the 13" still has a 1280x800 screen! Regarding the 15" model, I'm not going to spend $2500 or whatever on a glorified large 1280x800 display with better looking icons and smoother text. There better be a way to use the actual resolution of 2560*1600 (if that's what it's going to be) beyond that.
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# ? Jun 6, 2012 23:55 |
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flavor posted:Regarding the 15" model, I'm not going to spend $2500 or whatever on a glorified large 1280x800 display with better looking icons and smoother text. There better be a way to use the actual resolution of 2560*1600 (if that's what it's going to be) beyond that. Oh god I want that so bad.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 00:10 |
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BlackMK4 posted:I have a 2010 13" with 8gb of ram and a Corsair F115 SSD. Boots in 15-20 seconds, something is up with your setup... then again the first or two reboots of a new install are slow. OK, this is much better now. Played with my computer normally and rebooted a few times now, and now if I just start the timer from when I hear the chime it gets to the desktop around ~20 seconds including the time I have to type in my username and password. I think now I can boot up with Mail, Safari and Spotify around 25 seconds which feels pretty fast to me. Much better than that 45+ seconds. Do I/should I disable hibernation since i have 8 GB of RAM and I heard every time I close the lid on my MBP it dumps all contents of my RAM into a 8 GB file? I never turn off my computer and I open/close the lid a lot throughout the day.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 00:19 |
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Leave it on.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 00:31 |
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Mercurius posted:I'm kind of hoping that 2560x1600 resolution isn't correct for the 15" MBP, because that's only effectively 1280x800 in HiDPI mode. HiDPI needs to really have a 50% or 75% mode which is smoother, but doesn't outright double. Would probably increase the size of apps way too much to have 3-4 different sets of their graphic assets, but it would be nice. You could even run the different apps in different HiDPI modes. That would be superkeen.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 01:01 |
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BlackMK4 posted:Leave it on. But hibernatemode 0 is so fast. Seriously though, I've been running my laptops in mode 0 for over six years now with no issue. Unless you regularly run the battery down to near empty, leave it sleeping for months at a time, or have a complete battery failure it's not going to cause any problems.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 01:43 |
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step aside posted:Didn't they drop Mac from the OS X branding? I'm guessing the real deal wouldn't say Mac OS X on the box. 10.8 drops Mac from the title. 10.7 is still known as Mac OSX
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 01:51 |
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Oneiros posted:But hibernatemode 0 is so fast. What is this mode 0 you speak of?
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 01:55 |
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Bob Morales posted:What is this mode 0 you speak of? It's odd that he's reporting mode 0 being faster to wake, because wake time should be the same as default in almost every scenario. Going to sleep in mode 0 should be faster though since it doesn't write the RAM contents to disk before powering off. edit: The only reason to use 0 is to save on SSD space/write cycles and even that's debatable. I used mode 0 when I had an Intel SSD a few years ago and OS X didn't support TRIM, but on my new machines I think it's pointless. Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Jun 7, 2012 |
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You Am I posted:10.8 drops Mac from the title. 10.7 is still known as Mac OSX It's actually been inconsistent, but on apple.com it's mostly referred to as "OS X Lion," and that's what I'd expect to be written on spec sheets for new Macs.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 02:04 |
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:This breaks down the hibernate modes. Yeah, wake time is the same between modes 0 and 3 (assuming you don't lose power). The main benefit of mode 0, for me, is the ultra-fast sleep. Close the lid and you're ready to go right then and there. Honestly, it probably doesn't make that much of a difference with a SSD but I'm doing it out of habit from when I had a slow-rear end 5400 RPM Hitachi that took geological ages to sleep in mode 3 (and also liked to cause kernal panics when the SMS triggered during the sleep process). e. Extra 8GB of free space doesn't hurt, either. Oneiros fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Jun 7, 2012 |
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Sinestro posted:Oh god I want that so bad. They really need to either put in a 2880x1800 screen (effectively 1440x900 in HiDPI) or keep it to ~135 ppi, which I think is close to 1920x1200 at 15". Of course, they could offer the 2560 one as a baseline with an upgrade to 2880, but I'd prefer they just put something larger than effectively 1280x800 to start with. Mercurius fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Jun 7, 2012 |
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You Am I posted:10.8 drops Mac from the title. 10.7 is still known as Mac OSX http://www.apple.com/macosx/ The URL aside, everything there just says OS X Lion.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 03:54 |
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AlternateAccount posted:HiDPI needs to really have a 50% or 75% mode which is smoother, but doesn't outright double. Would probably increase the size of apps way too much to have 3-4 different sets of their graphic assets, but it would be nice. You could even run the different apps in different HiDPI modes. That would be superkeen. The reason HiDPI and 2x mode on iOS work so easily is that they simply double the number of pixels. Any app that doesn't support HiDPI will just look ugly, but function the same, since they can just multiply it by two. I am not sure a retina Mac will be a very pleasant experience for the period just after it's released, and potentially much longer. Lots of older Mac apps that aren't being actively developed will probably never get retina updates, and there's no good way to deliver retina images on the web, so almost any picture or graphic online is going to look like crap.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 04:09 |
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thegasman2000 posted:So the Air replaced the Macbook. Then they nerf the Macbook Pro and make that the new Macbook... This makes no sense. I just wanted a pro with no DVD SSD as standard and a retina display. or at least matching the Air's screen. If they removed all spinning platter drives and added embedded RAM/SSD it would basically be an Air. I'm sure if they added 15 and 17-inch versions of the Air there's be enough room for the i7, discrete graphics, and a bigger battery to compensate thanks to the larger size, even if it is thinner then the old MBP.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 08:05 |
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cbirdsong posted:The reason HiDPI and 2x mode on iOS work so easily is that they simply double the number of pixels. Any app that doesn't support HiDPI will just look ugly, but function the same, since they can just multiply it by two. Where the analogy between iOS and OS X apps breaks down for me is that iOS apps can't be resized. There absolutely needs to be more than that or at least I'm not going to buy MBPs anymore. Right now I have a 17" with 1920x1200. I highly doubt that Apple is going to effectively go "forget about all that and say hello to your IDE in glorious 1280x800 on a 15-inch " I know Boot Camp would give me the full resolution, but I'm not buying an MBP to primarily run Windows on it.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 08:56 |
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If I wanted to fresh-install Lion, does this sound about right: 1) Download Lion from the Appstore 2) Extract the Install ESD from the package contents 3) Format a USB thumbdrive 4) Restore the InstallESD.dmg onto said USB thumbdrive 5) Shutdown, pull out the old HDD, swap in the new SSD 6) Plug in the newly created USB drive, boot while holding down option, select the USB drive, install. Can I install Snow Leopard instead? If I hook up my old hard drive via a USB enclosure, could I access Library from that drive? (For example, if I wanted to copy my Safari Extensions, which are located in ~/Library/Safari/Extensions, could I do that?) Wild EEPROM fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Jun 7, 2012 |
# ? Jun 7, 2012 09:16 |
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flavor posted:I know Boot Camp would give me the full resolution, but I'm not buying an MBP to primarily run Windows on it.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 09:37 |
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I have a customer who has 2 white C2D Macbooks and need batteries for them. Whats the best place to buy official batteries from? I am in the sucky UK....
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 09:50 |
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flavor posted:I know Boot Camp would give me the full resolution, but I'm not buying an MBP to primarily run Windows on it. Like you, I'd be amazed if they went from offering 1440x900 and 1680x1050 screen options on the 15" to having what's effectively 1280x800 as the only option.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 10:11 |
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Small White Dragon posted:That could depend on the driver implementation... Windows and the graphics card support the full resolutions of the display plus the Thunderbolt Display on the 17". Why wouldn't they support the resolutions of the new MBPs?. Mercurius posted:You won't need to do that. The current HiDPI implementation in Lion/Mountain Lion (through Quartz Debug in XCode) auto enables if you pick the effective resolution (1280x800 in this example), but the whole range of resolutions the display supports are selectable for people who enjoy eye-strain on tiny super high DPI screens. That's why I'd like for them to keep the 17" by the way. Since they're apparently keeping the Mac Pro, I don't know why they wouldn't keep the 17". If anything, it's probably easier to design than the smaller ones and it's not like it needs its own production line like the Mac Pro. Small White Dragon posted:Like you, I'd be amazed if they went from offering 1440x900 and 1680x1050 screen options on the 15" to having what's effectively 1280x800 as the only option. Considering also that this is supposed to accommodate people coming from even higher resolutions if they should drop the 17".
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 10:37 |
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Mercurius posted:You won't need to do that. The current HiDPI implementation in Lion/Mountain Lion (through Quartz Debug in XCode) auto enables if you pick the effective resolution (1280x800 in this example), but the whole range of resolutions the display supports are selectable for people who enjoy eye-strain on tiny super high DPI screens. The real solution is 4k resolutions
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 10:51 |
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japtor posted:Yeah this is why I've been confused about people getting super excited about retina displays (without an unknown scaling mode at least), the current options with them would end up with an unusably tiny UI, or nice sharp UI but with less effective space to work with. Or run at lower resolution and deal with the blur...at which point you might as well just use the old displays.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 11:17 |
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Do most of you iMac owners just leave it on all the time? Mine has an SSD, does that make any difference?
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 13:18 |
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Mr. Onslaught posted:Do most of you iMac owners just leave it on all the time? Mine has an SSD, does that make any difference? I leave mine on 24/7 at work.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 13:35 |
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I have an iMac from 2009 and whenever it goes into sleep mode, i.e. after you leave it for a while such that it's screen turns off, it disconnects from WiFi and is pretty anal about reconnecting, such that I usually have to turn it's WiFi on and off to get it to reconnect. Is there any way to keep it permanently connected? The WiFi on it is pretty dodgy anyway.
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# ? Jun 7, 2012 13:50 |