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If I were the Skrulls and I were invading Earth, the person I would be most concerned about is Nick Fury.
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Revol posted:If I were the Skrulls and I were invading Earth, the person I would be most concerned about is Nick Fury. Yes, but you can never be sure the Fury you kidnapped is the real one in the first place, so he's too hard to bodysnatch.
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Jun 2, 2012 23:14
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AlternateNu posted:Latest EMH was kickin' rad. Oddly enough, the first thing I thought when I saw this was another Skrull episode was whether they were going to bring in Super Skrull, but there he was. He is Captain America people listen to what he says. If he agrees with you then people will follow.
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Jun 2, 2012 23:16
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OK, if what I've just read is true, and one of Loeb's first calls as head of Marvel Animation/TV, was to redub Spider-Man's appearances in EMH with Bell, when Keaton did it originally, I'm back to hating him, from my usual mild ambivalence.
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Jun 3, 2012 03:27
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Gaz-L posted:OK, if what I've just read is true, and one of Loeb's first calls as head of Marvel Animation/TV, was to redub Spider-Man's appearances in EMH with Bell, when Keaton did it originally, I'm back to hating him, from my usual mild ambivalence. Apparently Jonah and Betty (and probably Robby as well) were the same guys from Spec, but it was only Spider-Man that got dubbed. loving Loeb man. I just started to notice "EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: JEPH LOEB" and when wsa the last time executive producer was ever given to someone who actually works on the show? Usually it is just people like Stan Lee who created the original idea as sort of an honorary title, but they don't do jack for the show or movie or whatever.
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Jun 3, 2012 03:50
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Nope, Exec in TV is usually the man/woman in charge of the show on a day-to-day basis.
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Jun 3, 2012 03:59
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Gaz-L posted:Nope, Exec in TV is usually the man/woman in charge of the show on a day-to-day basis. That's a supervising producer or a series producer. Usually an executive producer is not all that involved in day-to-day operations, but any important decisions have to be vetted by him/her, so the voice change would definitely be an EP-level decision.
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Jun 3, 2012 05:06
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Gaz-L posted:OK, if what I've just read is true, and one of Loeb's first calls as head of Marvel Animation/TV, was to redub Spider-Man's appearances in EMH with Bell, when Keaton did it originally, I'm back to hating him, from my usual mild ambivalence. Oh, what? Goddammit. The sad part is that I'm not even mad, this is just the kind of bullshit I expect at this point.
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Jun 3, 2012 06:06
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AlternateNu posted:The idea of getting Captain America to embrace the Skrull invasion seems kind of hokey, though. Why should they expect everyone else to go with the flow if he bows down to them? This did occur to me, too, but when I thought about it I saw two equally plausible explanations: [spoiler] One way is that real leadership quality is such a foreign concept to the Skrulls that they can't even grasp it, and instead of realizing that Cap has some specific skills that allow him to lead like that, they assume that people listen to him just because he has absolute authority. That's how their society works, after all, with the Skrull Queen and such. The other possibility is that they did understand, and they were assuming that Skrull-Cap was a perfect enough copy that he'd be able to call on all of Steve Roger's leadership experience and skills and do just as good of a job as the real Cap would have. Hell, it's possible this might even have worked if the Avengers didn't intervene.[spoiler] Either one of those works just about as well as the other, really.
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Jun 3, 2012 12:32
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That's it for EMH. http://www.marveltvnews.com/2012/06/06/avengers-emh-officially-cancelled-to-be-replaced-by-avengers-assemble/ quote:Well it seems that the long running rumor for Avengers Earth’s Mightiest heroes cancellation, is a rumor no more! The cancellation has been confirmed by Marvel latest official Press(Print only): 
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Jun 6, 2012 23:51
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Huh. Falcon? Not Black Panther, or Storm or Ms Marvel or... well, I guess it's supposed to tie into USM, so Cage is out.
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Jun 7, 2012 00:06
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Ugh, I get that it's designed to mesh with movie continuity more, but I'm gonna mourn the loss of Hawkeye's classic purple duds. Sure, it's a silly look, but it seems like there are less and less silly looks out there all the time, and garish costumes are one of my favorite parts of classic comics.
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Jun 7, 2012 00:16
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TwoPair posted:Ugh, I get that it's designed to mesh with movie continuity more, but I'm gonna mourn the loss of Hawkeye's classic purple duds. Sure, it's a silly look, but it seems like there are less and less silly looks out there all the time, and garish costumes are one of my favorite parts of classic comics. Comics are for mature adults who have no need for goofy costumes except to reference them in some kind of sarcastic "wink wink" manner.
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Jun 7, 2012 00:19
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I was actually fine with USM version of Thor. Hell, it was pretty drat close to EMH version of Thor. I'm sure everyone else will loving suck. EDIT: Really surprised Wolverine isn't in Avengers: Assemble.
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Jun 7, 2012 00:23
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notthegoatseguy posted:I was actually fine with USM version of Thor. Hell, it was pretty drat close to EMH version of Thor. But then why would anyone watch the inevitable X-Men cartoon?
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Jun 7, 2012 00:27
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If Wolverine can find the time to be in a billion comics at once he can surely find time to fit in two cartoons at the same time!
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Jun 7, 2012 00:30
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And thus Marvel's first attempt at universe building in cartoons comes to an end. Thanks a lot Jeph Loeb.
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Jun 7, 2012 00:58
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Cliff Racer posted:And thus Marvel's first attempt at universe building in cartoons comes to an end. Thanks a lot Jeph Loeb. To be fair, the universe building was kind of stuck in neutral since the other show in the universe was canceled before EMH even aired.
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Jun 7, 2012 01:05
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Suben posted:That's it for EMH. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGOb1MKVqsc
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Jun 7, 2012 12:08
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Cliff Racer posted:And thus Marvel's first attempt at universe building in cartoons comes to an end. Thanks a lot Jeph Loeb. By cancelling a series so that they can do some actual universe building? The same thing that made their film series successful?
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Jun 7, 2012 12:16
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I wish they would stop putting Black Widow in things, since she's such an uninteresting character and not even EMH could do a lot with her. Adding Ms. Marvel was such a great move and this, along with losing Janet, just seems like they're regressing, but gotta keep up with the movies, I guess.
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Jun 7, 2012 12:35
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Gaz-L posted:Huh. Falcon? Not Black Panther, or Storm or Ms Marvel or... well, I guess it's supposed to tie into USM, so Cage is out.
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Jun 7, 2012 14:20
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Endless Mike posted:This might be pointing to an introduction of Falcon to the movies, actually. (Alternately, realistically, it's just a reason to get a non-white person in the cartoon.) I get that it's a diversity move (note all my other choices were either black or female), it's just an odd one, as Falcon's so tied to the Captain America stuff, and the rumour mill's turning about a Panther movie. And I disagree about Widow being uninteresting, but much of what makes her interesting isn't going to be shown on a Saturday morning cartoon. Not like you can talk about her being a government assassin and the moral grey area of that on a kids' show.
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Jun 7, 2012 14:47
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Waterhaul posted:By cancelling a series so that they can do some actual universe building? The same thing that made their film series successful? EMH was a follow on to Wolverine and the X-Men and fit those characters in from time to time, as well as putting in the Fantastic Four multiple times and other heroes in one episode high lights. But I guess that isn't "universe building" then?
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Jun 7, 2012 16:12
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I also thought that EMH was doing a pretty good job of universe building, seeing Tony Stark arguing with J. Jonah Jameson was incredibly fun and the sort of thing that I had hoped to see more of.
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Jun 7, 2012 16:19
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Starsnostars posted:I also thought that EMH was doing a pretty good job of universe building, seeing Tony Stark arguing with J. Jonah Jameson was incredibly fun and the sort of thing that I had hoped to see more of. It was strange to see the Bugle there, because previously a paper called "Excelsior" has been seen.
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Jun 7, 2012 17:34
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notthegoatseguy posted:It was strange to see the Bugle there, because previously a paper called "Excelsior" has been seen. Marvel got the rights back for Spider-man between season 1 and 2.
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Jun 7, 2012 17:35
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Hakkesshu posted:I wish they would stop putting Black Widow in things, since she's such an uninteresting character and not even EMH could do a lot with her. Adding Ms. Marvel was such a great move and this, along with losing Janet, just seems like they're regressing, but gotta keep up with the movies, I guess. Black Widow's a pretty good character and has been given interesting things recently with her last series and her inclusion in Winter Soldier. But I'm sure that Carol is in line next for both films and TV.
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Jun 7, 2012 17:37
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notthegoatseguy posted:It was strange to see the Bugle there, because previously a paper called "Excelsior" has been seen. New York has historically been able to support more than one newspaper.
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Jun 7, 2012 17:56
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Lobok posted:New York has historically been able to support more than one newspaper.
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Jun 7, 2012 18:21
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Cliff Racer posted:EMH was a follow on to Wolverine and the X-Men and fit those characters in from time to time, as well as putting in the Fantastic Four multiple times and other heroes in one episode high lights. But I guess that isn't "universe building" then? It's a follow up to Wolverine and the X-Men and I may be misremembering but it hasn't mentioned that show? Or the versus films? I know Wolverine and different X-Men have done background cameos but it hasn't done anything really other than "these people exist" which it's not as if a new show couldn't just do that. Like as far as the new show is concerned you can already apply all that as Ultimate Spider-Man has had Doom, Galactus, The Frightful Four, Taskmaster and so on.
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Jun 7, 2012 18:27
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I'd be a lot more okay with that if Ultimate Spider-Man was less terrible. Unless I missed a notice where it started being good.
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Jun 7, 2012 19:16
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TwoPair posted:I'd be a lot more okay with that if Ultimate Spider-Man was less terrible. After attempting to watch the most recent episode I think it has only become more terrible.
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Jun 7, 2012 19:21
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To think, right now I could be watching one of the Scorpion or Hobgoblin episodes of Spectacular Spider-Man season three. The way they handled the Norman/Harry mystery of the Goblin was great and I had high hopes for how they were going to handle Hobgoblin. Even if they didn't keep the mystery aspect, a large part of the appeal of the original Hobgoblin stories was seeing one villain on his quest to get progressively more powerful and deadly. And I don't use the word "quest" lightly - in a videogame sense we got to see him seek out and find more loot, weapons, vehicles, henchmen, influence, and more superpower. That could have translated amazingly to a story arc across a season of TV.
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Jun 7, 2012 19:53
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Season 2 has had more characters show up and have roles in EMH compared to the background cameos in Season 1. I just hope the new Avengers cartoon is closer to how EMH is currently rather than Ultimate Spider-man because I really can't watch that show.
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Jun 7, 2012 20:27
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Endless Mike posted:This might be pointing to an introduction of Falcon to the movies, actually. (Alternately, realistically, it's just a reason to get a non-white person in the cartoon.) Alternate answer: It's a Jeph Loeb show, you've gotta fit a Sam in somewhere.
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Jun 8, 2012 00:20
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Chaltab posted:If New York can be the home of the vast majority of Marvel superheroes, I don't think a few extra Newspapers are that much of a problem. If you ask me all these newspapers are becoming a drat menace!
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Jun 8, 2012 06:22
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Well, X-Men: Evolution started out pretty bad but seasons 3-5 were actually really good. So maybe we just have to put up with 2 seasons of poo poo from USM.
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Jun 8, 2012 13:15
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Teen Titans is coming back as Teen Titans Go with the original cast next year. http://toynewsi.com/index.php?itemid=18781
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The premise reeks of Exec demands of the sort Cartoon Network was famous for last decade but I hope that once the series gets going the team will be able to take it in whichever direction they want.
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