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Btw these were over the course of an entire day, include grassroots stuff, and most were half pours. I also have a ridiculous tolerance for my size... I'm gonna need a hiatus after this
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SUPER HASSLER posted:Plus you can get Jolly Pumpkin! Screw you! On the bright side, Vino's is good. And we have the Flying Saucer.
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Just tried my first Bear Republic, the Hop Rod Rye, based on several people here praising it so highly. My previous Rye IPA experiences were Ruthless Rye from Sierra Nevada, and the new Rye IPA from Harpoon, both of which I like (the Harpoon I can sit and drink all night; the Ruthless was a bit of an acquired taste and wears out my palate pretty quickly). I'm still figuring out how to describe what I like and don't like -- but I definitely liked this. The Bear Republic Rye is much deeper and more complex than I expected it to be. I had assumed it would be more similar to the Sierra Nevada, which I really liked but was a frontal assault on the palate with the spicy rye and the intense hops. Instead, the malts stood out first, more sweet than I expected, and then the hops come in and reminded me it was an IPA. Masked the alcohol very well; I dislike boozy beers as a rule, and this one had nothing to fear on that front. SnowDog fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Jun 10, 2012 |
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Good beer night for me. Went to the Brew Kettle brewpub and finally had White Rajah on draft. They had maybe 20 other great non-Brew Kettle beers on tap too. Great menu. I also drank a Bodhi from Columbus Brewing which was great. Also finally had KBS at my buddy's house. All in all a great beer night.
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cryme posted:Distribution, variety, number of bars. Even the diviest of dives has a craft tap now. Not just the number of bars, but the quality of them. What other state gets Pliny the Younger on tap? There's a reason. Philly also has one of the best selection in the country, you can't really think of a beer that distributes out of state that doesn't distribute to Philly that is worth a drat. Sure there are some, but you can find almost everything in Philly from Russian River to Alesmith to Cigar City. I bought a 4 pack of Sixpoint's Bengali Tiger IPA since it just came in fresh and I am in love. This is a really well balanced IPA with a moderate hop bitterness to it with a nice dry finish. This is the easiest to drink IPA I've ever had, I could drink it all day. Midorka fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jun 10, 2012 |
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Jun 10, 2012 18:17
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Midorka posted:Not just the number of bars, but the quality of them. What other state gets Pliny the Younger on tap? There's a reason. Philly also has one of the best selection in the country, you can't really think of a beer that distributes out of state that doesn't distribute to Philly that is worth a drat. Sure there are some, but you can find almost everything in Philly from Russian River to Alesmith to Cigar City. Every state that gets Pliny the Younger, which is several, gets it on tap since it's not bottled. Also, you should go back and read the statement of yours that I bolded. Do you actually believe that, or are you just making hyperbolic statements? What's the brewery scene like near Philly? Are there interesting beers being made outside of Victory?
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I know I've posted about this before but I've been saving a 1986 Framboise Boon and a 1994 Sam Adams Triple Bock. I keep putting off actually drinking them and am wondering how drinkable they are now. Once I finally decide to actually drink them I'll put out a note to beer goons in the NYC area who might be interested in trying them with me.
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Yuns posted:Once I finally decide to actually drink them I'll put out a note to beer goons in the NYC area who might be interested in trying them with me. But what if we want to travel far distances to try gross old beer???
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Perfectly Cromulent posted:Every state that gets Pliny the Younger, which is several, gets it on tap since it's not bottled. I'm aware it's a tap only release, from what I understand Philly was the only place outside of Cali to get it this year due to the incredible demand. I may be wrong on this, but that's what I heard this year. I wasn't fortunate enough to get it though because it was madness. I really do believe what I said, I can not think of one brewery that brews high profile fantastic brews that ships outside of their home state that doesn't distribute to Philly. Every high profile beer I've ever heard about either comes to Philly or it doesn't leave the state. As for breweries there aren't many excellent ones in the city, but within an hour and a half drive there are a lot of good ones. You're not going to find a better bar scene than in Philly though. Oh and Philly Beer Week is great.
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Midorka posted:I really do believe what I said, I can not think of one brewery that brews high profile fantastic brews that ships outside of their home state that doesn't distribute to Philly. Every high profile beer I've ever heard about either comes to Philly or it doesn't leave the state. Roughly how many of those high profile beers that you have access to have a mouthfeel that reminds you of a blanket?
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RobBorer posted:But what if we want to travel far distances to try gross old beer??? As a side note, Triple Bock was nearly undrinkable when bottled. I bought a few bottles many years back and I've been drinking it over time and the drinkability hasn't actually improved. This is the last bottle I have. Yuns fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Jun 11, 2012 |
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Josh Wow posted:Roughly how many of those high profile beers that you have access to have a mouthfeel that reminds you of a blanket? Oh hey maybe you can explain to me why Terrapin put a session beer in a 4 pack and is charging $9-$10 for it. I also wonder why Sixpoint has a "Best before January 29, 2013" stamp on their just shipped Bengali Tiger IPA. That's almost 8 months, I'm scratching my head on this one. Midorka fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Jun 11, 2012 |
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Guyyyyys let's not go down this route. You know in 2005, when I first moved to Houston, I could drive to all the decent beer joints in a day and then drive back home. I can't do that now, and that's a great thing. As air mentioned earlier there's a joint along the light rail, Mongoose versus Cobra, which is just the latest of a number of joints to pick up on the beer "trend" around here. Not that we get a lot of stuff which the rest of you folks have heard of apart from the regulars, but at least Karbach in Houston put out a saison earlier this week and I'd say it's up there with the other US saisons I've had, definitely. Still wouldn't mind being in CO right now but still.
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Midorka posted:I'm aware it's a tap only release, from what I understand Philly was the only place outside of Cali to get it this year due to the incredible demand. I may be wrong on this, but that's what I heard this year. I wasn't fortunate enough to get it though because it was madness. No, there were multiple bars here in Portland, OR that got PtY this year. If I remember correctly, there were others outside the Philly area in this thread who said they knew of it being tapped near them. Ah, so now the bar has moved from "worthwhile beers" to "high profile fantastic brews". How do you know that beer you don't have access to isn't fantastic or worthwhile?
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Perfectly Cromulent posted:Ah, so now the bar has moved from "worthwhile beers" to "high profile fantastic brews". How do you know that beer you don't have access to isn't fantastic or worthwhile? Name a great beer that is shipped out of state that isn't available in Philly and prove me wrong then. There probably are a decent amount, but you're not going to have an easy time finding one. Midorka fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Jun 11, 2012 |
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The best beer distribution is wherever you live because no matter how much you travel or trade nothing is ever going to beat being able to drive to the local bar or bottle shop and getting your favorite beer you have access to. Or maybe my attention span is too short and I am too big a fan of instant gratification. Goddamn if I don't miss Victory though.
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air- posted:Buy two. Drink one fresh and age the other. I really like the saison profile from the fresh one, but I had an 07 last year and the beer gets funkier with time. This is my plan with the Saison Brett. I have 2 more bottles in the fridge and 3 more in a cool dark spot for the next 3, 6, and 9 months. If I can make it that long.
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Well if an IPA only gets worse after it's bottled, any day thereafter is its "best by" date. Why turn your customers off with an early or even reasonable date?
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Midorka posted:Name a great beer that is shipped out of state that isn't available in Philly and prove me wrong then. There probably are a decent amount, but you're not going to have an easy time finding one. You're missing the point. You seem awfully confident of your claim given the number of good breweries out there. That being said, Ninkasi, Deschutes, and Alaskan (Smoked Porter and Baltic Porter are great beers) don't appear to distribute to the Philadelphia area. That wasn't even very hard.
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Just wrapped up the six of the Flying Dog El Dorado single hop DIPA. I have to say, I'm not a huge fan. There's some punch there, and it hides the AVB pretty well, but these hops really need a good citrus hit in the flavor profile to be decent. Otherwise, it's just earthiness and bitterness all the way. Unbalanced, even though it's pretty smooth.
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Midorka posted:Name a great beer that is shipped out of state that isn't available in Philly and prove me wrong then. There probably are a decent amount, but you're not going to have an easy time finding one. Midorka, I really don't jump on the 'give Midorka poo poo' wagon. You're green to the world of beer, but you're trying, and I can totally relate to where you're at in the hobby. I like your enthusiasm and unbridled appreciation for awesome beer. I still want to post every great thing I try, even things which 75% of the thread's already had and knows is good. I also try to stay away from the dogpile because I really don't think it's justified and has a twang of lazy internet bullying. That said, dude, you're really moving the goalposts here on what's already a strange boast. I'm not really sure how 'every great beer that's shipped out of state makes it to Philly' is a barometer of excellence; I can drive literally 20 minutes on interstate 8 east, and reach one of the top breweries in the world in Alpine (who don't distribute to California, let alone Pennsylvania). I can also go the other direction in the same time and come across Alesmith, Ballast Point, Stone, Green Flash, and (it'll be great, trust me) Societe. This isn't...what do the kids call it, a humblebrag? Because it's not, because there's a ton of people not only in this thread but in this city who are in the same boat. I'm not a unique snowflake. I'm stating it primarily to illustrate that there's other metrics, not better or worse, to hang your prideful hat on, and also to have you see that we can all throw out a boastful statement based off whatever metric we want to craft. poo poo, there's probably someone reading this from Belgium going "haha you guys are adorable. Going to get my monthly case of Westvleteren 12, brb." Let's just enjoy this poison while we're here and not dive into the e-wang waving game.
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FreelanceSocialist posted:Just wrapped up the six of the Flying Dog El Dorado single hop DIPA. I have to say, I'm not a huge fan. There's some punch there, and it hides the AVB pretty well, but these hops really need a good citrus hit in the flavor profile to be decent. Otherwise, it's just earthiness and bitterness all the way. Unbalanced, even though it's pretty smooth. Perfectly Cromulent posted:You're missing the point. You seem awfully confident of your claim given the number of good breweries out there. Deschutes does distribute to Philly, Black Butte has been on-tap at Capones, so has Abyss, so has Obsidian Stout, so has Mirror Pond. You're right about the other two though. Still no other area has the distribution Philly has. California has Philly/Pennsylvania beat on number of quality brewers, but not in distribution strength. @wattershed, point taken. I still don't know of an area with a stronger/broader distribution focus than Philly and the bar scene is rated as one of the best in the world. I mean Monk's Cafe and Memphis Taproom are absolutely phenomenal and there are many others just as good. I also don't know another city that has as many events as Philly does during Philly Beer Week, the response the cities bars and patrons have taken to it is astounding. Midorka fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jun 11, 2012 |
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Midorka posted:I didn't like it very much either, it was a bit watery and thin. Diamond Bear and Red Brick don't distribute to Philly, unfortunately. My cousin moved up there about six months ago and complained that he couldn't get anything from either brewery.
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How many other beer events have you been to in how many other cities? Just wondering, you've made a ton of blanket statements already and failed to back any of them up, I figured you're probably talking out your rear end on this one too.
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I seem to recall a handful of events in Denver around GABF. But not too many, only a few dozen of the breweries in town bothered to do anything special. It's not like brewmasters were traveling hundreds of miles to release literally their only cask of some awesome beer.
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Midorka posted:Name a great beer that is shipped out of state that isn't available in Philly and prove me wrong then. There probably are a decent amount, but you're not going to have an easy time finding one. I searched beermenus near Philadelphia and got no results for Three Floyds. I can't say that everything they do is mindblowing, but they're renowed for a reason. edit: Except boogoop, but that's a one-off collaboration.
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Midorka posted:I didn't like it very much either, it was a bit watery and thin.
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Angry Grimace posted:Every big city has a "Beer Week" and I sincerely doubt you have any real basis to make the claim Philadelphia's event is better than every other city beyond being ignorant of every other city's beer week. Philly was the first in the USA, every other city is basically playing catch up. Reading a few magazines the statistics put Philly over any other cities beer weeks in number of events and a few other statistics I'll quote next time I go to work and re-read the magazine. Read about it here. There's too much local pride for any of the statistics to even matter though. Edit: Over 800 events. Midorka fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Jun 11, 2012 |
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Midorka posted:Philly was the first in the USA, every other city is basically playing catch up. Reading a few magazines the statistics put Philly over any other cities beer weeks in number of events and a few other statistics I'll quote next time I go to work and re-read the magazine. Read about it here. quote:"Philly Beer Week is a 10-day celebration of the Best Beer-Drinking City in America. Established in 2008..."
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Angry Grimace posted:I have to admit though, it's gotta be tough to catch up with that long and storied 4 year history. You're not good with math. Regardless Philly started it all.
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Midorka posted:You're not good with math. Regardless Philly started it all. Then again, I'm talking to a guy who once angrily reprimanded thread members for trolling him when someone suggested that he try Duvel if he liked Redemption.
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Angry Grimace posted:Then again, I'm talking to a guy who once angrily reprimanded thread members for trolling him when someone suggested that he try Duvel if he liked Redemption. If you're going to try to poke fun, get the facts right, it was Damnation and I find Don de Dieu by Unibroue closer to it than Duvel.
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Midorka posted:If you're going to try to poke fun, get the facts right, it was Damnation and I find Don de Dieu by Unibroue closer to it than Duvel.
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Angry Grimace posted:Sure, except the point wasn't that Duvel was going to taste exactly the same as Damnation. No, that was the point. Rage-saq said it was the same exact beer. Get your facts straight. Midorka fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Jun 11, 2012 |
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Midorka posted:You're not good with math. Regardless Philly started it all. First /= best. That's like saying Budweiser beats out Victory because they started brewing a pils first, or pulling reg-date in an argument. This isn't to say that Philadelphia doesn't have a very active scene, but when the festival started has nothing to do with where they are now. And there were beer festivals long before beer week anyways, so it's a bit moot. Also, this pedantry and personal attack-making from everyone is kinda poisonous to the thread, just like Soju was detrimental to my night of fantastic beer in NOVA. The karaoke didn't help much either. I need to grill some of my buddies and find out what stout I had. It was crazy good and I'd never heard of the brewery before. By the way, what would you pair with 3 AM Jumbo Slice? I was thinking a nice west coast Pale, but I was convinced by someone far more knowledgeable than I that the correct accompaniment is Tecate through a straw. Thoughts? Edit: Goat something? It was an imperial with just the right spiciness on the back. Phenomenal stuff. Editedit: The Tecate has to be from a tallboy for the optimal ratio. Plus it's loving Tecate. Kraven Moorhed fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Jun 11, 2012 |
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I can beat philly in that Denmark gets most of the super hyped beers that he is bragging about. We also get tons of beers they do not get because we are in Europe. Also he is pretty loving stupid so no idea why anyone argues with him since he has his head so far up his rear end he can never see when he is wrong due to all the poo poo in his eyes. On a fun note I am headed off to Rome this week for the Un Mare di Birra. It is a cruise put on by Ma Che Siete Vunti a Fa that goes from Rome to Barcelona and back. During the cruise it is all you can drink and drat this years brewery list looks great. The following breweries will be on board and pouring draft beer for 4 days straight. 3Fonteinen (BEL) Bayerischer Bahnhof (GER) BiDu (ITA) Birra Del Borgo (ITA) Birrificio del Ducato (ITA) Birrificio Emiliano (ITA) Birrificio Endorama (ITA) Birrificio Foglie d'Erba (ITA) Birrificio di Montegioco (ITA) Birrificio Stavio (ITA) Brasserie Cantillon (BEL) BFM Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes (FRA) Brasserie de Fleurac (FRA) Brasserie des Garrigues (FRA) Brasserie de La Senne (BEL) Brasserie Theillier (FRA) Brasserie Thiriez (FRA) Braustelle (GER) Brewfist (ITA) Brouwerij Emelisse (HOL) Brouwerij De Molen (HOL) Craig Allan (FRA) Christoffel (HOL) De Struise Brouwers (BEL) Dogfish Head (DAN) Elav (ITA) Extraomnes (ITA) Evil Twin (DAN) Fanø Bryghus (DAN) Freigeist (GER) Gänstaller-Bräu (GER) Jopen (HOL) Lepers, Lervig (NOR) Loverbeer (ITA) Närke (SWE) Nils Oscar (SWE) Nynäshamn (SWE) Oppigård (SWE) Steel City (USA) Stillwater (USA) Toccalmatto (ITA)
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crazyfish posted:I searched beermenus near Philadelphia and got no results for Three Floyds. I can't say that everything they do is mindblowing, but they're renowed for a reason. I like how this comment was ignored because, y'know, it proved him utterly and totally wrong.
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are you working, or simply a passenger? i imagine it's a good gig, regardless. also, have you gone before? partook of a nine-year Old Guardian vertical and am not feeling very awesome today. got to try Ithaca's Brute, which was awesome, and Cascade's Kriek, which i dug a lot more the de Ranke bottle i had a month or two ago. funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 13:14 on Jun 11, 2012 |
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