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fookolt
Mar 13, 2012

Where there is power
There is resistance

Funkmaster General posted:

Every encumbrance level has a speed modifier. Lower weight = faster. There's a strider augment that lowers your effective encumbrance level as it pertains to speed by 1.

Higher encumbrance also means your stamina drains faster.

Thanks! Is there a pretty big difference between Very Light and Light?

Also, I'm enjoying my strider character, but how is the magic archer?

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Magmarashi
May 20, 2009





Robo Reagan posted:

Haha, I got lucky and the fucker just toppled off the ledge and fell down to it's death.

Haha. Same thing happened to me, too


While I was on his back. Body-surfed that ape monster like an express elevator to quest progress.

jerichojx
Oct 21, 2010

VDay posted:

Drinking a potion automatically makes that inclination your secondary, unless it was already that in which case it becomes the primary. Basically you can completely change your pawn's main/secondary affinities with 3 potions. 2 to get whatever you want as primary, then one to make that thing secondary.

When I made my main pawn a Mage, I gave her Medicant/Utilitarian. After I turned her into a Fighter, I gave her two Mitigator and one Nexus. It made her Mitigator/Nexus.

After a while she became Mitigator/Medicant.

So obviously, the potions add a set amount but it is easy to revert back to their old ways.

What does a fighter do to encourage Medicant anyway?

Edit: Also, due to my lootwhoring ways, she became an Acquisitor. When she was a Mage, when she was Medicanting or Utilitaring, she was poking things up for me.

jerichojx fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Jun 11, 2012

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!
Your actions have a direct impact on your pawn's inclinations. They're, in essence, learning from you. If you run around and constantly pick poo poo up during battles, they'll get "points" in acquisitor and eventually that'll become their secondary and then primary affinity. If you constantly spam the "Go!" command to send them forward, they'll eventually gain the Pioneer affinity. If you always focus on killing mages/archers they'll lean towards Challenger and so on and so forth.

It's the reason a lot of people's pawns have lovely affinities. They make them how they want them at the beginning, but then forget to check every once in a while if their pawn's affinity changed, so after a dozen hours of constantly picking up poo poo mid-battle, their pawns switches to Acquisitor and suddenly the badass warrior they made is running off and picking herbs while a bunch of wolves gangrape you.

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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VDay posted:

If you constantly spam the "Go!" command to send them forward, they'll eventually gain the Pioneer affinity.

I believe this only applies when out of battle, and it might up scather or something during battle but it's also the most useful one of the d-pad commands. It's pretty much an "actually do something to the enemy now" button.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Does it matter which direction (left or right) to use the "help" command? And what inclination does that give the pawns? I do that a lot, to get pawns to cast elemental weapons on me if I see enemies a ways off.

Funkmaster General
Sep 13, 2008

Hey, man, I distinctly remember this being an episode of Spongebob. :colbert:

Samurai Sanders posted:

Does it matter which direction (left or right) to use the "help" command? And what inclination does that give the pawns? I do that a lot, to get pawns to cast elemental weapons on me if I see enemies a ways off.

No, but context matters. If you're hurt, "help" means "heal me." If you're in combat, but not hurt, "help" seems to mean "attack enemies close to me," or "attack what I'm fighting," but if you're outside of combat and not hurt it means "cast an elemental boon on me," which really should be the response any time you ask for help and aren't significantly hurt.

I think this context matters for inclinations, too. Asking for help with fighting, or with a warrior/fighter/etc as your main pawn, is going to push them towards the dreaded Guardian, while asking for healing is going to push toward medicant and asking for enchantments is going to push toward utilitarian.

Also I'm pretty sure you can ONLY push your own pawn's inclinations, so really what class your pawn is matters a lot here; asking for help will make magic pawns more useful and combat pawns less useful.

edit: All of this is based on personal experience, so it's not totally pulled out of my rear end, but it's not something I've gone researching on either so take it with a grain of salt.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
What am I supposed to do when I get attacked by a griffon during an escort mission?

Whoever I'm escorting just goes down on the first pass and a minute or so later I get a message saying mission failed.

Already lost one escortee to the bastards.

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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sassassin posted:

What am I supposed to do when I get attacked by a griffon during an escort mission?

Whoever I'm escorting just goes down on the first pass and a minute or so later I get a message saying mission failed.

Already lost one escortee to the bastards.

:stare: Huh... Carry them over your shoulder and run until the griffon lands?

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
What the hell does being soaked do, besides putting out my lantern? Do you spend more stamina with attacks since your clothes are wet?

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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Honest Thief posted:

What the hell does being soaked do, besides putting out my lantern? Do you spend more stamina with attacks since your clothes are wet?

I believe it makes you/things weaker to lightning, though it might mess with your stamina in addition to that.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Count Uvula posted:

I believe it makes you/things weaker to lightning, though it might mess with your stamina in addition to that.
All I know is that my pawns are excellent about telling me not to get soaked once I have already gone in the drink. Pawns: masters of excellent timing for advice.

edit: you know what made me think of that? Last week I had family in town and they rented a car and brought a tom tom GPS device with them, which verbally gives directions. However, we were talking in the car and the drat thing kept interrupting us to tell us to turn left and right and stuff, drove me crazy. I got thinking, when a machine talks I suddenly have much higher expectations from it than if it's just text on a screen, maybe too high. Software just isn't smart enough yet to "read" what people need to know and don't need to know, and when. Only other humans can do that.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Jun 11, 2012

hamburgers in pockets
Jun 18, 2005

Yeah, that's blood. It'll get better before the show.

Manatee Cannon posted:

Your equipment has a higher chance to be dragonforged at a higher rank (and none at all at base) so it's not that surprising it was forged.

I've pretty much just been messing around with dragonforging by chance, but is it literally just "get hit by breath attack = chance of dragonforging?" Because that seems to be the only times I've had it activate with my equipment so I've gotten in the odd habit of running around dragons and just hoping they'll give me some of that sweet firebreath. :psyduck:

Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated


hamburgers in pockets posted:

I've pretty much just been messing around with dragonforging by chance, but is it literally just "get hit by breath attack = chance of dragonforging?" Because that seems to be the only times I've had it activate with my equipment so I've gotten in the odd habit of running around dragons and just hoping they'll give me some of that sweet firebreath. :psyduck:

It also has a chance of dragonforging your equipment when you kill a drake/dragon-thing.

Overlord K
Jun 14, 2009
Just got this on Saturday, having a blast so far. Tossed my info on the spreadsheet. Been rolling around with a Strider and my Mage pawn named Yayoi to be my stalwart companion as she shoots for TOP PAWN. :v:

Yeah yeah made one of those anime inspired ones but at least I have no plans to dress her horribly. I've seen some pretty impressive anime / other media inspired ones actually. I'm currently running around with a hired Warrior named Erza Scarlet and the resemblance is uncanny. And or awhile I was playing with one based on Leon from RE4. Their Arisen was even named Ada. :stare:

It makes me wish I could mess with the character creator more...

That all said I really have to restrain myself when it comes to hiring some of my PSN friends pawns, some of them are upwards of level 40ish and that would just feel like cheating this early on, even if they would be free.

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


Bleargh looks like I missed out on the gold idol quest cause I did that stupid bastard trial quest. I always feel like I should read a wiki before I do anything at all in these games.

YOTC
Nov 18, 2005
Damn stupid newbie

FirstPersonShitter posted:

Bleargh looks like I missed out on the gold idol quest cause I did that stupid bastard trial quest. I always feel like I should read a wiki before I do anything at all in these games.

I've missed it twice if its any consolation.

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


It hurts a little more cause you can't have multiple characters for some stupid reason.

YOTC
Nov 18, 2005
Damn stupid newbie

FirstPersonShitter posted:

It hurts a little more cause you can't have multiple characters for some stupid reason.

Use the cloud?

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy
Are griffons supposed to sometimes just fly off after a pass or two or was that a bug?

Also, coolest moment of the game so far: landing a full bend right into an ogre's face and forcing it to go down flat on its belly.

Cthulhuchan
Nov 10, 2005

Rose: Sip martini thoughtfully.

Such as this one.

Just a tiny sip couldn't hurt...
It has been my (relatively limited) experience that you need to lay into them fast and furious or they'll just take off with whatever hapless creature they pounced on in the first place.

Depths
Apr 15, 2009

SENPAI
Griffons are weird, one landed next to me while i was fighting those invisible lizard men and somehow one of the lizards latched onto the griffin when it took off. I just saw the transparent lizard chill on the back of the griffin while it flew into the sunset.

haunted bong
Jun 24, 2007


notZaar posted:

Are griffons supposed to sometimes just fly off after a pass or two or was that a bug?

Also, coolest moment of the game so far: landing a full bend right into an ogre's face and forcing it to go down flat on its belly.

If you are a sorcerer, the best way to keep a griffin grounded is to cast Comestion/High Comestion on him as soon as he lands(It tends to burn his wings, rendering him incapable of flight). Otherwise, if you aren't, then Flask of Oil/Burst Arrow(If you're a bow user) or Dragon's Spit/Throwblast tends to do the same thing

TescoBag
Dec 2, 2009

Oh god, not again.

So, has anyone got a support mage with ice/fire/holy affinity, that has utilitarian/medicant?

Honestly this is actually impossible to find. Pawns that the search finds are useless.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

A BLACK PRESIDENT posted:

If you are a sorcerer, the best way to keep a griffin grounded is to cast Comestion/High Comestion on him as soon as he lands(It tends to burn his wings, rendering him incapable of flight). Otherwise, if you aren't, then Flask of Oil/Burst Arrow(If you're a bow user) or Dragon's Spit/Throwblast tends to do the same thing

Fire Affinity on the bow works just fine. Remember to aim for the wings.

haunted bong
Jun 24, 2007


The Lone Badger posted:

Fire Affinity on the bow works just fine. Remember to aim for the wings.

I have never had a mage pawn cast any sort of affinity on me(I have a fighter as my main), so I didn't even think of that one!

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde
Killed a Cyclops by climbing him and bashing him repeatedly on the head. Cyclops was doing his "I'm dying" animation, me still attached to his neck. My pawn: "Beware! Falling from high places will hurt you!"
:allears:

likecnsnnts
Jun 16, 2008

SPLINTER CELLULITE
Speaking of bashing Cyclopses on the head, how do you get a helmet off? My pawns seem to be able to do it, but I can never manage it.

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

hamburgers in pockets posted:

I've pretty much just been messing around with dragonforging by chance, but is it literally just "get hit by breath attack = chance of dragonforging?" Because that seems to be the only times I've had it activate with my equipment so I've gotten in the odd habit of running around dragons and just hoping they'll give me some of that sweet firebreath. :psyduck:

The easiest way to get your poo poo dragonforged is probably slaying The Dragon in the main quest line because it dragonforges everything you have equipped. :science:

^^^^^^^^
You have to climb up on their back, and when they reach up to grab you (and eat your face) you jump off and they knock their helmet off.

Also another thing on armored cyclopes: if you have a mage/sorceror pawn with levin you will probably never get it's helmet off because it will be stunned most of the time :v:

Bakalakadaka fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Jun 11, 2012

Captain Diarrhoea
Apr 16, 2011
Mordred's such a good guy, he's a barrel chested mutton-chopped brawler that strip mines to the planet's core when he's not soloing ogres. Between this and Dark Souls i should probably finally hook my Xbox up online to share my brawny manservant.

E: Where the gently caress is this guy that i'm to evict, i just fiddled with his son in an alley and threw his wife through some barrels to bring them round and now he's disappeared. Small wonder i guess.

Captain Diarrhoea fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Jun 11, 2012

Souai
Dec 16, 2007

likecnsnnts posted:

Speaking of bashing Cyclopses on the head, how do you get a helmet off? My pawns seem to be able to do it, but I can never manage it.

You can either attack from low enough on the back that the arm will miss grabbing you or as the above poster said jump off before the arm gets you and they'll snatch their helmet instead.

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

Captain Diarrhoea posted:

Mordred's such a good guy, he's a barrel chested mutton-chopped brawler that strip mines to the planet's core when he's not soloing ogres. Between this and Dark Souls i should probably finally hook my Xbox up online to share my brawny manservant.

E: Where the gently caress is this guy that i'm to evict, i just fiddled with his son in an alley and threw his wife through some barrels to bring them round and now he's disappeared. Small wonder i guess.

His daily schedule is such that you won't find him anywhere in the morning but later in the day he'll be behind the inn doing the town crier thing.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

TescoBag posted:

So, has anyone got a support mage with ice/fire/holy affinity, that has utilitarian/medicant?

Honestly this is actually impossible to find. Pawns that the search finds are useless.

Do you want all 3 affinities or just 1 of the three? Mine has that personality last time I checked although she's been hired out a lot since then. Shes got holy affinity

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Souai posted:

You can either attack from low enough on the back that the arm will miss grabbing you or as the above poster said jump off before the arm gets you and they'll snatch their helmet instead.

Bizarrely, I've had several occasions where I've been riding his helmet and he's pull it off while I still held on to his face. I'm not playing a small character, either, so I can only imagine that with my reach I'm still holding part of the head with one hand as I bash the mask.

I'm almost level 60 now, and cyclopes seem to have stepped up in terms of difficulty. The last two I fought never went down no matter how hard we hit them or where. They just kept trucking. I can only imagine there's some degree of level scaling going on but it's just not enough to keep up with how broken the Arisen can be.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Welp, decided to restart on a brand new game since I was just playing NG+ in pretty much the same way as my first time through. Going to do what I had planned to do even before I had the game: play through once as Caster main with melee Pawn and then again with the positions reversed. Which is kind of funny considering how the game's plotline plays out at the end.

kontona
May 3, 2003

Funkmaster General posted:

Challenger/Scather, IMO.

Definitely avoid Guardian, despite it sounding perfect for a tank (it isn't) and have Scather as a secondary (having it as a primary makes most other inclinations redundant). Primary is mostly up to preference.

thanks! will try this out tonight.

you're right about guardian. notice my pawn being less aggressive ever since she switched to this.

ExCruceLeo
Oct 4, 2003

I'll choose the truth I like.
Added myself and pawn to the PS3 section. I got the game this weekend and have been trying to make her a healer, not sure if she's set up very well yet but after losing the two hired pawns randomly in the Water God Temple we killed everything no problem.

As soon as it was available I made my guy only use 2 handed hammers and it has been great. Runners are a bit of a pain though.


Is there a way to make your pawns attack rabbits?

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Great, spent 15k riftbux to hire a warrior, went to fight the griffon boss and she jumped in the water and killed herself.

There goes all those riftbux.
Griffons piss me off so bad, they almost always get away from me. :(

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022

ExCruceLeo posted:


Is there a way to make your pawns attack rabbits?

I'm kind of wondering that myself, like if I run around killing all the deer and rabbits and other forest creatures if they'll take up the habit. I think at one point they were killing rats and snakes and bats when I was in a cave (but it might have also just been collateral damage from killing some crates), but I can't get them to kill spiders for anything.

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coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
Last night I was wandering around near the bandit fort when I was attacked by a lone, female strider at midday. Her name was "Rouge" :haw:

The Lone Badger posted:

I just hired some Rangers to help me with the griffin.

WHY ARE THERE RANGERS WITH MEDICANT AND GUARDIAN INCLINATIONS?

Why are there so many?
Pubbies spamming "come" and "help" on the D-Pad during combat.

coyo7e fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Jun 11, 2012

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