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Spiffness posted:This should go in the... oh, I guess it's in the right thread already. I feel like a broken record saying it every page, but it happens so often...
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Alright, there is a serious lack of Can-Am riders on the track. I can't stand for that.  I will pay the entry fees for up to 2 wheels of any Can-Am spyder out on track, up to $250. If they charge you extra for your extra wheel, that's on you. In order to collect, you must provide footage of at least 4 sessions out on track. You must also put my screenname somewhere visible on your fairings and post a picture from a trackside photog where my screenname is visible, or have it visible in the video if there is no trackside photog. Bonus condition: I will pay your gas at the track if you can put down a lap time faster than a B group Ninja 250 rider. Small print: Only open to members of the forums who have been around for at least 6 months since the date of this post. Only open for 6 months from the date of this post. Payment will be arranged when proof of trackday attendance is posted on the forums. Let's get a Can-Am on track!  Z3n fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Jun 13, 2012 |
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Jun 13, 2012 20:02
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*spends $28,000 to win a $250 internet challenge*
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Jun 13, 2012 20:17
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Z3n posted:Alright, there is a serious lack of Can-Am riders on the track. I can't stand for that. Pretty much anything will beat a can-am around a track. It's a lot of work to corner a thing of that weight at speed.
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Jun 13, 2012 20:17
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front wing flexing posted:Pretty much anything will beat a can-am around a track. It's a lot of work to corner a thing of that weight at speed. Your posting is really confusing. e:\/\/\/  if you had said that at the beginning, we could've Splizwarf fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Jun 13, 2012 |
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Jun 13, 2012 20:19
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Splizwarf posted:Your posting is really confusing. I was just talking straight line speed. On a track a 50cc scooter could probably out pace a can-am. Even with the power steering it's hard to turn sharply at speed. Your inside wheel will almost always be in the air. You have to hang your body off of it sport quad style.
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Jun 13, 2012 20:30
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"I was just talking straight line speed." / 
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Jun 13, 2012 20:36
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"Well, they're fast if you only consider raw top speed, and not how long it takes to get there, or 0-60 time."
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Jun 13, 2012 20:38
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front wing flexing posted:Harleys certainly are. And even if my initial statement was hyperbolic 0-60 in 4secs with a top end electronically limited to 130 is not slow. If we're bench racing, my tubby bitch Vstar was a 130mph bike, sub-4 0-60, and a 12sec 1/4mi. I wouldn't consider it especially speedy and I upgraded because it was boring. Can-Ams aren't any faster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaIHoBAzeaA, in fact to me they look about exactly as fast as a Harley bagger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A32Mqn78tM
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Z3n posted:"Well, they're fast if you only consider raw top speed, and not how long it takes to get there, or 0-60 time." Except that we did talk about all those things and take them into account. And you were wrong on most of your facts. But of course that doesn't matter. At least I can acknowledge its shortcomings and admit it can't go around a track for poo poo, I think that shows I'm being objective, which you're not being. But it's clear you guys just don't like it for no real reason. I guess if it was a sub 1k scrap yard POS then it'd be cool. I just can't wrap my head around your virulent hatred for something that is honestly pretty cool. It looks modern, is fun to ride and is unique. In the end I decided it wasn't for me because two wheels is more fun but I'm not going to bash it because it's not for me because it definitely has a lot of positives that I can appreciate.
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Jun 13, 2012 20:57
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If I had to play internet psychologist I'd say it had something to do with people buying their way into the "motorcycle" club without having to bother to learn to ride a motorcycle. They're alright by me but I do kind of see them as the red headed step child. I don't despise them like some people seem to.
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Jun 13, 2012 21:03
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What is this "you guys" poo poo? I think they're cool and I'd ride the wheels off of one if someone put it in front of me. You just started the conversation by playing a dick card with "way faster than most motorcycles". How you could not expect knee-jerk reactions to that is beyond me. Which facts of his are wrong? Who expressed "virulent hatred" (e: \/\/\/ uh besides that guy, thanks Pope Mobile  \/\/\/)? What's wrong with you? 
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Jun 13, 2012 21:03
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I don't like Can Ams because they're goddamn huge and ugly as gently caress. How's that for a reason? E: Just to make sure I'm being clear here: I don't hate them. I do laugh at the guy who is wearing full on yellow gear to match it because it looks so funny, though. But he does get props for protection.
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Jun 13, 2012 21:04
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Splizwarf posted:What is this "you guys" poo poo? I think they're cool and I'd ride the wheels off of one if someone put it in front of me. You just started the conversation by playing a dick card with "way faster than most motorcycles". How you could not expect knee-jerk reactions to that is beyond me. When he said the 0-60 was 6.8. A couple of posters. And nothing.
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Jun 13, 2012 21:04
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front wing flexing posted:When he said the 0-60 was 6.8. A couple of posters. And nothing. He wasn't wrong, he was referencing the wrong model. An error he corrected when you pointed that out. The 0-60 for the RSS is still nothing to write home about. You also turned one thing he got wrong into most of his facts being wrong.
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Jun 13, 2012 21:07
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Pope Mobile posted:He wasn't wrong, he was referencing the wrong model. An error he corrected when you pointed that out. The 0-60 for the RSS is still nothing to write home about. He said the top speed was that of a ninja 250, it's not, it's much faster. He also got the HP wrong. Edit: but I guess we're talking in circles now. I concede that I definitely overestimated the speed in my post but I still don't think it's a heap of irredeemable poo poo. dr cum patrol esq fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jun 13, 2012 |
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Jun 13, 2012 21:11
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front wing flexing posted:He said the top speed was that of a ninja 250, it's not, it's much faster. He also got the HP wrong. He was talking about acceleration not speed. He said faster but he meant quicker.
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Jun 13, 2012 21:23
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The problem is more of a structural one: The closest motorcycle that you can compare a Can-Am to in straight line speed is a Ninja 250. Ok, I got the top speed and HP wrong because I thought they all had the same HP (FWIW, the RSS makes 6 more HP than the RT), and the limiter on some models was at 110MPH and on others it's not. But at the end of the day, you're still sitting next to a Ninja 250 in performance specs. You can't be faster than most bikes when your closest performing motorcycle is a ninja 250. Z3n fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jun 13, 2012 |
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250s can be fast! I burried the needle on my V-Star 250 at 90 and it kept on going. 90mpg, too 
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Z3n posted:The problem is more of a structural one: The closest motorcycle that you can compare a Can-Am to in straight line speed is a Ninja 250. Ok, I got the top speed and HP wrong because I thought they all had the same HP (FWIW, the RSS makes 6 more HP than the RT), and the limiter on some models was at 110MPH and on others it's not. The 0-60 for a ninja 250 is almost six seconds the can-am rss is four. What in the world are you talking about? Just stop. Harley specs are closer to the Ninja 250 than the can-am. dr cum patrol esq fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Jun 13, 2012 |
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Jun 13, 2012 21:38
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The RS S is 4.5 seconds, not 4.
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Jun 13, 2012 21:41
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I think the only reasonable thing to do is take a Ninja 250, a Harley bagger and a Can-Am RSS on the track and see what happens.
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Jun 13, 2012 21:42
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One sends the owner to the hospital with shattered ear drums. One can't corner tight enough and rams into a wall. One provides a fun time, albeit at a conservative pace.
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Sagebrush posted:I think the only reasonable thing to do is take a Ninja 250, a Harley bagger and a Can-Am RSS on the track and see what happens. The Ninja will zoom around the track smiling. The Harley will hit the front flip lever at some point. The Can-Am will be riding around the track at a slower, but still fun pace, smiling. Can't we all just get along?
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Jun 13, 2012 21:46
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Pope Mobile posted:The RS S is 4.5 seconds, not 4. Still faster than most motorcycles on the highway v  vBondematt posted:Can't we all just get along? If only.
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Pretty sure my '75 Volvo 240 drag car was faster than a Can-AM RSS  Was your Can-AM plastered in Winnie The Pooh stickers with a side-exit 3" exhaust that sounded like a WWII bomber? I think I have the clear advantage here. 
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being able to outrun sub 300cc learner bikes, supermotos, dirt bikes, dual sports, and harley baggers in a straight line is only a bragging point if you own a can-am I guess. Getting smoked by a gold wing by every benchmark doesn't mean you're slow
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Jun 13, 2012 21:48
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Xovaan posted:Pretty sure my '75 Volvo 240 drag car was faster than a Can-AM RSS I lose 
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Jun 13, 2012 21:48
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Can-Am: Let's race from a roll.
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Bondematt posted:The Ninja will zoom around the track smiling. No. Hate is all we know. Spiffness posted:Getting smoked by a gold wing by every benchmark doesn't mean you're slow Watching my friend's dad take to the twisties in his
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Jun 13, 2012 21:49
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Can-Am: Slow so you have time to enjoy the acceleration.
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Spiffness posted:being able to outrun sub 300cc learner bikes, supermotos, dirt bikes, dual sports, and harley baggers in a straight line is only a bragging point if you own a can-am I guess. Definitely can't do this on spyder. I lose again.
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Z3n posted:The problem is more of a structural one: The closest motorcycle that you can compare a Can-Am to in straight line speed is a Ninja 250. Ok, I got the top speed and HP wrong because I thought they all had the same HP (FWIW, the RSS makes 6 more HP than the RT), and the limiter on some models was at 110MPH and on others it's not. Strangely, four of these have gone up for sale on CL-Metro Detroit in the last hour and 15 minutes. Now that's some serious influence...
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Jun 13, 2012 21:51
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The can-am is pretty stable in the snow. That was pretty cool.
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Marv Hushman posted:Strangely, four of these have gone up for sale on CL-Metro Detroit in the last hour and 15 minutes. Now that's some serious influence... "Started out on Can-Am. Ready to move up to Ninja 600. 20kOBO No low ballers."
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Jun 13, 2012 21:53
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I support the feeble and crippled on Can-Ams. They do look fun in a 'god I hope nobody sees me' kind of way. This is the INTERNET and we're talking MOTORCYCLES vs TRIKES, there can be no peace.
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^^^^ in the grim darkness there is only trikes ^__^ I once rode my SV through a kiddy pool. That was pretty cool.
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Z3n posted:I once rode my SV through a kiddy pool. That was pretty cool. Were there kids in it?
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I attached them to my bike in advance like pontoons in case I started to fall over.
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