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FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy
Why kind of RPG makes you go back to your village after you reach the big city? This poo poo is backwards Capcom!

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see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

Do one or two escort quests and by the time you're finished nothing in the game will ever be challenging again. The difficulty curve is pretty much a cliff. :shrug:

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

notZaar posted:

Why kind of RPG makes you go back to your village after you reach the big city? This poo poo is backwards Capcom!
Yeah it's like they are deliberately avoiding some JRPG genre conventions, that's terrible.

Poops Mcgoots
Jul 12, 2010

tooooooo bad posted:

Do one or two escort quests and by the time you're finished nothing in the game will ever be challenging again. The difficulty curve is pretty much a cliff. :shrug:

That's what I thought, then I wandered into Soulflayer Canyon and fought the Cockatrice. Spent like a good half hour fighting that fucker after he stoned two of my pawns almost immediately. Still managed to kill him though. But now post-game is roundly kicking my rear end thanks to those goddamned hellhounds.

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy

Samurai Sanders posted:

Yeah it's like they are deliberately avoiding some JRPG genre conventions, that's terrible.

No it's just counter-intuitive and confusing. Especially since they hand out a big old list of quests inside the city (which you will inevitably fail and be miserable until the game kicks in 10 levels later.)

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

notZaar posted:

No it's just counter-intuitive and confusing. Especially since they hand out a big old list of quests inside the city (which you will inevitably fail and be miserable until the game kicks in 10 levels later.)
Yeah, I agree that they didn't execute that right (especially for how long it takes to move netween gran soren and cassardis) but deliberately loving with JRPG conventions is a good thing in general I think. The genre had badly, badly needed it for basically a decade straight.

edit: vvv yeah, suddenly they're strong against fire, unlike anything else in the game maybe?

RME
Feb 20, 2012

Wow the difficulty just spiked for me on my way to the final battle. These enemies are reminding me of when I just started the game. Seriously any suggestions here?

also the area from the tutorial, was wondering if I'd ever get back here

RME fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Jun 14, 2012

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

tooooooo bad posted:

Do one or two escort quests and by the time you're finished nothing in the game will ever be challenging again. The difficulty curve is pretty much a cliff. :shrug:

If you are going to do any one escort I suggest taking the trainer from the encampment (I never remember his name) to the Shadow Fort. You get a greatsword that consistently beats out every two handed weapon I've picked up since. Slap that on a warrior and make things dead.

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

Nemesis Of Moles posted:

Usually I would, but that's basically all I have to do right now. What should I be doing about now? Grinding?

Pick up the quests from the notice boards, but let them happen naturally as you play. The important sidequests are all gained by talking to people with green question marks above their heads, and they're the ones that will take you to interesting dungeons and locales. I've been meaning to make a better quest guide than my previous one, with chronological order, but in the meantime look at 'The Hero' in this trophy guide to see the list of important sidequests.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

DrNutt posted:

Although, I must say that I think Capcom really hit it out of the park with the pawn system. I want sequels to Dragon's Dogma just to get more of that honestly. Maybe give us a larger world, with more distinct regions, like a snowy mountain top area, some tropical jungles, or a desert area. I would be all over that.


I love watching other people's pawns progress. Up until yesterday I used the same mage and warrior for 20 levels. The mage, though still a mage, has surpassed me, and has clearly better equipment. The warrior switched genders and is no longer a valkyrie though, sadly. Also someone hooked my warrior pawn up with a warhammer. Not as good as my greatsword, but still awesome!

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

RBA Starblade posted:

I love watching other people's pawns progress. Up until yesterday I used the same mage and warrior for 20 levels. The mage, though still a mage, has surpassed me, and has clearly better equipment. The warrior switched genders and is no longer a valkyrie though, sadly. Also someone hooked my warrior pawn up with a warhammer. Not as good as my greatsword, but still awesome!

Yeah, it's been really fun to check in on my friends' pawns and see how they've been progressing. I took one of my friend's level 14 pawns into the post game with me in the hopes he'd be better prepared once he got there!

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy

Samurai Sanders posted:

Yeah, I agree that they didn't execute that right (especially for how long it takes to move netween gran soren and cassardis) but deliberately loving with JRPG conventions is a good thing in general I think. The genre had badly, badly needed it for basically a decade straight.

edit: vvv yeah, suddenly they're strong against fire, unlike anything else in the game maybe?

I don't think it's strictly a JRPG thing, lots of Western RPGs also have the tutorial town syndrome.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

I restarted as a strider with my main pawn Herr Komrade as a mage, and everything is awesome again. The game is so much faster and more satisfying when you can reliably handle the bulk of your damage output yourself and use pawns more for support and aggro. I've already gotten to hire a fighter modeled after Commander Shepard, and having my main pawn use magic lets me see all the magic weapons and armor I ignored last time without having to deal with the headache of playing mage myself.

Except for some reason my pawn hasn't been hired at all, which makes me wonder if there's less demand for mages than fighters. Freighter S. got a decent amount of hires at the beginning and end of the game, and even Old Snake got quite a few in the short time he was around, and they were both fighters. I've tried to give Herr Komrade the best support spells I can at the moment, the standard Anodyne/Halidom/Fire Boom.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:
At least the starting town doesn't get destroyed like it does in a large number of JRPG's, Gran Soren, the main city gets trashed instead, I still find it amusing that the Blacksmith and alchemy vendor are still open literally right infront of the massive hole.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

notZaar posted:

I don't think it's strictly a JRPG thing, lots of Western RPGs also have the tutorial town syndrome.

I remember the first town after the tutorial in Dragon Age: Origins being the point where the game took off the gloves and proceeded to feed me to a human/wolf/spider centipede of pain. Dragon's Dogma is much more pleasant.

likecnsnnts
Jun 16, 2008

SPLINTER CELLULITE
Anyone with a low level pawn who wants some rentin? I'm in NG+ and looking to going back through in level-apropos armor with level-apropos pawns.

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde

Nemesis Of Moles posted:

For context, I'm barely into the main city. All the quests avalible to me now are either boring super-slogs (Get 50 War Trumpets?)

I already have 45 War Trumpets, I can't remember where I got the others so that I can farm the 5 remaining trumpets :psyduck:

quote:

or on the edges of possibility (give some assholes 30k or some other rear end in a top hat 80k?!)

Suggestion: with the carrot tricks pay 80k and tell the 30k rear end in a top hat to stay in the
home you bought.

Lotish posted:

I think that's one reason that Gransys itself is such an isolated part of the larger country it belongs to, and we only deal with the duchy rather than the kingdom as a whole: So that the sequels can grow geographically and take us to other places without having to generate entirely new landmasses for us to explore.

I'd like that too, but I'd also like to know how Capcom will pull that thing without it smelling of B-List writer doing a sequel on spec. The story looks pretty "final" to me, in the sense that it's mostly a story about breaking a cycle of reincarnations, more or less similar to the concepts of escaping the wheel of destiny in Buddhism. It's a story that does not give hooks for sequels, more or less like the various chapters of Final Fantasy are about bringing a planet to the brink to destruction to save it just a few seconds before the ending titles.

Giblet Gravy
Sep 27, 2004
I know this was covered somewhere in the thread but damned if I can find it.

My pawn keeps switching back to guardian from utilitarian (secondary) and I have to have a little sit down talk. It's primary is scather which never seems to change. I've used the potions to reset it as well.

When she's set right, she's quite rocking. I wish it would just stay set.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

limaCAT posted:

I already have 45 War Trumpets, I can't remember where I got the others so that I can farm the 5 remaining trumpets :psyduck:
The only consistent location I know of is in a "Gather" point sack, in Encampment, right across from the innkeeper dude in the tent where the Riftstone is.

There's a shelf with a few potions on it, and a bag you can gather from on the ground. I find 1-4 bugles every time I go there.

Outfreakage posted:

I know this was covered somewhere in the thread but damned if I can find it.

My pawn keeps switching back to guardian from utilitarian (secondary) and I have to have a little sit down talk. It's primary is scather which never seems to change. I've used the potions to reset it as well.

When she's set right, she's quite rocking. I wish it would just stay set.
How often do you use the "come" and "help" commands in combat? That's the main way they'll become Guardian without potions or the chair.

For reference, the only time I use Go, Come, or Help, is generally when I'm either on top of a large enemy and want them to "come" climb on with me, or when I'm in a hurry and want my pawns to quit engaging the enemy we ran into, so we can run by.. My pawn's personality NEVER changes.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
I'm beginning to think that it was a bad decision to change my pawn to a big giant old man. My Amazon woman warrior got rented out all the time, but when I started my NG+ I used metamorphosis to change to a giant support mage (now sorcerer) and it seems like he never gets taken out.

Do people really just want to look at ladies all day every day?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

DrNutt posted:

I'm beginning to think that it was a bad decision to change my pawn to a big giant old man. My Amazon woman warrior got rented out all the time, but when I started my NG+ I used metamorphosis to change to a giant support mage (now sorcerer) and it seems like he never gets taken out.

Do people really just want to look at ladies all day every day?
My pawn is also a lot more popular now that she is a woman. However she's black, has a mohawk, and is wearing that mask that has a scary mouth on it so I hope she stands out in the crowd of petite blonds and brunettes that is there waiting for me every time I walk into the rift.

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Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jun 14, 2012

sighnoceros
Mar 11, 2007
:qq: GOONS ARE MEAN :qq:
So apparently you can't do the rescue Quina quest if you go to the Pawn Guild in Gran Soren. Also apparently there was a notice board in the encampment that I didn't even see, or accept any quests from. Considering just starting over, I just got to Gran Soren. Should I or shouldn't I?

Edit: Haha, apparently there are a bunch of quests in Cassardis too. I ran all over that town but didn't get any quests from anybody. What the hell.

sighnoceros fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jun 14, 2012

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Samurai Sanders posted:

My pawn is also a lot more popular now that she is a woman. However she's black, has a mohawk, and is wearing that mask that has a scary mouth on it so I hope she stands out in the crowd of petite blonds and brunettes that is there waiting for me every time I walk into the rift.

edit:


The Direwolf Cloak is baller as hell. Totally going for a Robb Stark/Jon Snow gimmick run on my next playthrough.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

DrNutt posted:

The Direwolf Cloak is baller as hell. Totally going for a Robb Stark/Jon Snow gimmick run on my next playthrough.
I still like the griffin cape better (though I don't have one yet in this game). Are there any cloaks in the game more awesome than those two?

edit: vvv PS3. She's named Queenie and she's in the middle of some fighter cross-training before she goes back to warrior.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jun 14, 2012

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Samurai Sanders posted:

My pawn is also a lot more popular now that she is a woman. However she's black, has a mohawk, and is wearing that mask that has a scary mouth on it so I hope she stands out in the crowd of petite blonds and brunettes that is there waiting for me every time I walk into the rift.

edit:



You 360 or PSN? Your pawn looks like she could be my pawn's sister. I just changed her to a Ranger so I could use a tank.

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

I haven't had any trouble getting rentals with my adult men pawns. I might not be drowning in RC but I've always had more than enough to afford the RC items I want and he usually comes back all 4's and 5's. I like to think that the novelty of a pawn who isn't a woman and/or a child might appeal to some people. Or maybe it's all very generous goons :shobon:

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Samurai Sanders posted:

I still like the griffin cape better (though I don't have one yet in this game). Are there any cloaks in the game more awesome than those two?

edit: vvv PS3. She's named Queenie and she's in the middle of some fighter cross-training before she goes back to warrior.

I really like the Tattered Mantle, and I'm anxious to see what kind of stats it gets when I get it upgraded to 3 stars (requires 15 dragon scales :stare: ).

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

DrNutt posted:

I really like the Tattered Mantle, and I'm anxious to see what kind of stats it gets when I get it upgraded to 3 stars (requires 15 dragon scales :stare: ).

I took mine to the Dragon fight. It basically flips all of its negative resists to positive.
http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Tattered_Mantle

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Clearly the creepy fetishes of the Dragon's Dogma community are the only thing affecting the rate at which pawns are rented.

Nobody's hired my latest pawn so it must be fetishes.

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

limaCAT posted:

I already have 45 War Trumpets, I can't remember where I got the others so that I can farm the 5 remaining trumpets :psyduck:

Go in the guard towers in Gran Soren, particularly the South Gate. There's about three or four chests up there in easy reach, each with great odds of having a War Bugle in it. You probably got about 40 from a quest.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

I just picked this up the other day and it's a blast. I'm at about level 20, but I'm still a little confused about some things. I've read through the first thirty pages of this thread looking for an answer to my question, and I can go no further so I apologize if it's been covered a million times, but:

I'm a strider, and once I hit max vocation level I'd like to branch out. Is there a class that lets me keep Ensnare, or a class with a skill that will provide a similar effect? I could look it up, but I want the rest of the skill sets to be a surprise.

Gestalt Intellect posted:

Clearly the creepy fetishes of the Dragon's Dogma community are the only thing affecting the rate at which pawns are rented.

Nobody's hired my latest pawn so it must be fetishes.

This is why my female pawn has the lowest possible height and weight and the largest possible breasts. Every time I rest at the inn she's got 5-10 items waiting for me.

E: I found out from a post in this thread that there are a bunch of quests in Cassardis - I did none of them. I wish I had known this before I ran all the way from Gran Soren to Cassardis and back again.

titties fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jun 15, 2012

Miijhal
Jul 10, 2011

I am so tired... I am so tired all the time...

limaCAT posted:

I already have 45 War Trumpets, I can't remember where I got the others so that I can farm the 5 remaining trumpets :psyduck:
There are a ton of spots where they can be found in Gran Soren. There's two houses in the run-down section of the residential area that you can actually enter and both of them have a place where you can find them. There's a chest in the back of the little town in the aqueduct that can have one, or a seeker's token. Most of the chests in the guard towers also have them.

Miijhal fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Jun 15, 2012

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

titties posted:

I'm a strider, and once I hit max vocation level I'd like to branch out. Is there a class that lets me keep Ensnare, or a class with a skill that will provide a similar effect? I could look it up, but I want the rest of the skill sets to be a surprise.

Check the bottom of the weapon skill description. If it doesn't have any class icons, any class that can use the weapon can use that skill when learnt. If it does, then it's locked to those classes. Pretty sure Ensnare is strider-only, but you might want to double-check.

Primetime
Jul 3, 2009
Are Seeker tokens randomly generated or are they just in 20 hard to find places? I've found 7 so far, but every one has been pretty well hidden, although a lot of loot in this game seems random, or respawns after a few days, so I'm not sure.

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

Primetime posted:

Are Seeker tokens randomly generated or are they just in 20 hard to find places? I've found 7 so far, but every one has been pretty well hidden, although a lot of loot in this game seems random, or respawns after a few days, so I'm not sure.

They tend to show up in the same chests over and over again. If you wait for the chests to refill you can usually find another one in the same place.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Dr. Red Ranger posted:

I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I never get this. Whenever I set a quest to be my active, and select "show on map", the map orients at some random place and no red markers show up. I have to regularly look up or ask people who've already done it where certain escort quest destinations and such are. I missed the Witchwood quest because I couldn't find it to begin with and assumed it was a later area.
Same here. "Okay... are you going to tell me where to find... no. No you are not. Well I'm gonna keep on keeping on, maybe I'll find the Witchwood some day."

And, welp.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Zereth posted:

Same here. "Okay... are you going to tell me where to find... no. No you are not. Well I'm gonna keep on keeping on, maybe I'll find the Witchwood some day."

And, welp.

I completely missed out on the Haunted Manse the first time through the game because I got impatient and rushed to the end. Now I'm in NG+ and struggling to figure out when they'll actually let me in.

I want my 150 locations achievement, dammit!

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

notZaar posted:

Ah I never tried sprint but I don't know if I can give up Biting Wind. It's like chaining 4 Stingers together, very fun.
Sprint is basically the alternative for those of us who don't like biting wind. Functionally they do the same thing because you can just hit the button and it'll lock onto whatever is closest (usually) without having to mess with the camera.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Samurai Sanders posted:

I still like the griffin cape better (though I don't have one yet in this game). Are there any cloaks in the game more awesome than those two?

edit: vvv PS3. She's named Queenie and she's in the middle of some fighter cross-training before she goes back to warrior.

I like the Harpy Cloak(can't remember exactly what it's called) myself. Has almost the exact same stats as the Griffon cloak, and it looks like you have wings.

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neetz
Mar 28, 2010

titties posted:

This is why my female pawn has the lowest possible height and weight and the largest possible breasts. Every time I rest at the inn she's got 5-10 items waiting for me.

I hear this a lot and always assumed it was a joke; it's not possibly true, surely?

I always just assumed most people weren't very selective about hiring pawns and settled on the first few they saw. On my newest run I went Assassin and ditched mine at 38 so it gets any Dragonforged Everfall stuff I don't want. It doesn't get much in the way of hires either but I tell myself it's because few people can handle the amount of gold it wears, rather than because it's not a weird, super frightening child.

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