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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Near the beginning of the film when they're in the "reactor" or whatever it is and go through a UV cleaning room, the scientist guy has terrible UV dandruff which I hope is a nice touch from the director rather than real. It's only visible while he's calling the remains they found "a real freak of nature", which I always thought was a nice touch.
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In The Pirates! In an Adventure with Scientists!: One of the pirates (possibly the the 'Pirate with gout') is wearing a Blue Peter badge. Probably doesn't mean anything to people outside of the UK but it is an iconic UK kids tv show (according to wikipedia it is the longest running in the world) and the symbol for the show is a blue pirate ship.
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WeWereSchizo posted:That sounds more like uncreative monster design than a subtle tie-in.
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Phy posted:I've always heard that it is really expensive and time-consuming to film ship movies, especially at sea. The Pirates movies are kind of anomalous, but it helps that the first one made three times as much as Master and Commander. Which is why Peter Weir shot most of it in a tank. It saved a lot of money, and let the movie be filmed a lot more efficently. Horatio Hornblower ran from 1998 to 2003 so it can't be that expensive to film nautical, historical films. Plus, it was on A&E, they're not exactly known for having a big budget. (Which also explains why they've switched to being yet another reality TV network ) Actually, a lot of the production details are pretty interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_and_Commander:_The_Far_Side_of_the_World#Production e: a great subtle moment in that film, was when Jack is going through the French captain's cabin after the final battle. There are sheets of music blown all over the cabin and then the camera quickly pans to a horn. This really fits the theme that that French captain is just like Jack. Frosted Flake has a new favorite as of 17:27 on Jun 16, 2012 |
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I've just been reading something that points out a bunch of parallels between Hitchcock's Vertigo and Proust's novel 'In Search of Lost Time':quote:As Marcel is introduced to Albertine by Elstir, so Scottie, Hitchcock's protagonist, falls in with a woman, Madeleine, to whom he is introduced by her husband, an old college friend called Gavin Elster. Like Marcel, Scottie soon finds himself in the role of both detective and analyst: on the one hand he is looking for evidence that Madeleine is having an affair; on the other, he is looking for clues to Madeleine's past, interpreting her dreams, piecing together the fragments of her biography. After having witnessed what he thinks is Madeleine's death in a fall from a bell-tower, Scottie has a nervous breakdown and becomes obsessed with looking for her on the streets of San Francisco. When he discovers Judy, a dead ringer for Madeleine, he makes her dress up and dye her hair so as to become Madeleine's double. [...] The story, Hitchcock told François Truffaut, is about a man "who wants to go to bed with a woman who is dead; he is indulging in a form of necrophilia." In Search of Lost Time posted:Instinctively I stroked my neck and lips, which had imagined themselves being kissed by her since she had left, yet which would never be kissed by her again; I stroked them as mama had caressed me on my grandmother's death, saying to me, "My poor child, your grandmother who loved you so much will never kiss you again."[...] In such moments, connecting my grandmother's death with that of Albertine, it seemed that my life was besmirched by a double murder. [...]Who knows whether [her] same hot-blooded, restless, fantastical qualities might not return again one day to upset me, but incarnate this time in a feminine form which I could not yet foresee. inktvis has a new favorite as of 17:11 on Jun 16, 2012 |
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The closest they come is when Dallas enters an elevator when escaping Fhloston Paradise; two seconds later, Zorg exits the neighbouring elevator. [/quote] There was also that scene where Corbin was in a spaceship and zorg was in another spaceship.
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I'm not sure if it's intentional, but in Pulp Fiction you can see a vase of white lilies on a table a little before Mia Wallace overdoses. Could just be to go with the white motif of the Wallace's living room, but I thought it was kind of an interesting touch. vv
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I like how in The Avengers Tony Stark is wearing a Black Sabbath t-shirt.
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I literally just started watching Alien 4: Resurrection. So to set this up, this one takes place 200 years after the third one. That said, there's a scene in the beginning where this army general is asked to identify himself to get through a door. He breathes into this security thing, and it doesn't work the first time so he has to wait and breathe into it again. It's a nice, subtle, and totally unnecessary thing to do at the very beginning to establish both that technology still isn't perfect and set a tone similar to the very first Alien where it's the future, but everything is really rundown. I haven't finished watching it yet (I paused it and immediately went to tell this thread about it), but I have a good feeling this isn't the cheap budget cash-in I was expecting it to be.
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# ? Jun 17, 2012 06:38 |
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The Slip posted:I literally just started watching Alien 4: Resurrection. So to set this up, this one takes place 200 years after the third one. That said, there's a scene in the beginning where this army general is asked to identify himself to get through a door. He breathes into this security thing, and it doesn't work the first time so he has to wait and breathe into it again. It's a nice, subtle, and totally unnecessary thing to do at the very beginning to establish both that technology still isn't perfect and set a tone similar to the very first Alien where it's the future, but everything is really rundown. Don't get your hopes up...
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TheAlmightyFrog posted:I like how in The Avengers Tony Stark is wearing a Black Sabbath t-shirt. I noticed that, but stupidly just chalked it up to Tony's awesome taste in music that runs through every film. He (in diagetic sound) plays Suicidal Tendencies in the first, and then Queen and Daft Punk in the second. I was grinning like an idiot when he crashed the Cap/Loki fight and the first thing he did was hijack the p.a. system just so he could enter to Shoot to Thrill.
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Cubone posted:Ha. I get it. That reminds me, in the original Iron Man when he's at the casino shooting craps instead of accepting his award the band is playing an orchestral version of the theme song from the 60s Iron Man cartoon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wn4iYoMcAA
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I was going to put that in but I though it was superfluous The thing I loved about that scene is the way the general's eyes light up green and circuitry appears on his jacket. Really subtle and cheap way at hinting at the way man and machine have meshed in the future without having to rely on a cgi robotic arm or something.
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Cubone posted:Ha. I get it.
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The Slip posted:I literally just started watching Alien 4: Resurrection. So to set this up, this one takes place 200 years after the third one. That said, there's a scene in the beginning where this army general is asked to identify himself to get through a door. He breathes into this security thing, and it doesn't work the first time so he has to wait and breathe into it again. It's a nice, subtle, and totally unnecessary thing to do at the very beginning to establish both that technology still isn't perfect and set a tone similar to the very first Alien where it's the future, but everything is really rundown. A friend of mine knows one of the set designers on the original "Alien", and for years after it came out, the guy complained about how the hugely detailed sets they built had been 'dirtied up', with parts of them deliberately damaged. It wasn't until years later when every production started doing it that he changed his mind.
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Robert Denby posted:A friend of mine knows one of the set designers on the original "Alien", and for years after it came out, the guy complained about how the hugely detailed sets they built had been 'dirtied up', with parts of them deliberately damaged. It wasn't until years later when every production started doing it that he changed his mind. Oh man, I never even considered that. I always assumed it was a brilliant touch done by the designers themselves. Looking at the timing of when that movie came out, everything was so shiny, even with the recently released Star Wars (excluding the Millenium Falcon), and then all of a sudden there's this movie that says, "Yeah, it's the future, but everybody's used to it so it all looks like poo poo. Just like it should." It's honestly one of my favorite aspects of the original Alien.
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The Slip posted:Oh man, I never even considered that. I always assumed it was a brilliant touch done by the designers themselves. Looking at the timing of when that movie came out, everything was so shiny, even with the recently released Star Wars (excluding the Millenium Falcon), and then all of a sudden there's this movie that says, "Yeah, it's the future, but everybody's used to it so it all looks like poo poo. Just like it should." It's honestly one of my favorite aspects of the original Alien.
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# ? Jun 18, 2012 02:27 |
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The Slip posted:Oh man, I never even considered that. I always assumed it was a brilliant touch done by the designers themselves. Looking at the timing of when that movie came out, everything was so shiny, even with the recently released Star Wars (excluding the Millenium Falcon), and then all of a sudden there's this movie that says, "Yeah, it's the future, but everybody's used to it so it all looks like poo poo. Just like it should." It's honestly one of my favorite aspects of the original Alien. On the other hand lucus wanted the sets to look used. On the star destroyer sets he wanted to keep all the scuff marks all the foot prints the wear and tear of every day filming because it made the place look realistic instead of all shiny clean and clinical.
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The Slip posted:Oh man, I never even considered that. I always assumed it was a brilliant touch done by the designers themselves. Looking at the timing of when that movie came out, everything was so shiny, even with the recently released Star Wars (excluding the Millenium Falcon), and then all of a sudden there's this movie that says, "Yeah, it's the future, but everybody's used to it so it all looks like poo poo. Just like it should." It's honestly one of my favorite aspects of the original Alien. I remember an interview with Scott saying that after he watched Star Wars for the first time in '77, all he could do was lay around his hotel room for a day or two, despondent that he wouldn't do anything that spectacular in his career. Of course he got over it, but the lessons he learned from SW really show up in Alien and Blade Runner. "The future is old." Wear and tear are used to great effect in Star Wars. The Empire's sets and clean and new to the point of sterility and the good guys are surrounded with tools that are used and well worn.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I once read a massive post in (I think) BYOB about how The Prestige was one enourmous prestige trick itself and the whole main plot of the film was to distract you from what was really going on, however I was drunk and forgot it all and couldn't find it again - did I actually dream it? I've always had that theory about The Prestige. That, like, the whole movie is structured as one big magic trick. You know, it shows you something, this character Borden, then makes it disappear (when he is hanged), then brings it back again (the twist ending). And it fools the audience in exactly the same way the magicians in the film do - with misdirection. Most people don't figure out the twist because the film is literally distracting you with flashy special effects - without the whole subplot of Angier and the dueling magicians and the awesome teleporting machine adventure, Fallon's identity would have been obvious. We'd have immediately noticed that, hey, there's this dude who is always kinda hanging out with Borden, and is clearly pretty important to him, but he doesn't have any lines? Who is this guy? But instead we are focusing on exciting lightning bolts! Just like a magic trick.
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TheAlmightyFrog posted:I like how in The Avengers Tony Stark is wearing a Black Sabbath t-shirt. Everything about Tony Stark in the movies is like one of these. My favorite was in Iron Man, his explanation for why he was late - "I was doing a piece for Vanity Fair." IE, having sex with one of their reporters.
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waldo pepper posted:I've always had that theory about The Prestige. I'm pretty sure that was the entire point.
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I predicted the plot twist in The Prestige as soon as Bale first did the trick with the bird. If that was the big reveal, thank god the misdirect was so interesting.
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Phy posted:Considering that the Nostromo was literally a refinery (or hauling a refinery, something like that) I think the decision to make it sort of run-down and grubby was exactly the right one, even aside from the pristine nature of most SF films. It's like any industry where the profit motive has priority - you clean where you can, especially on poo poo where grime can gently caress up the company's machinery, otherwise it's your rear end. If someone dies because the grime was obscuring a crack in a process pipe, welp. And if stuff breaks you bodge a fix toot sweet no dogfucking. The motion tracker and flamethrower in Alien were very much in that spirit, now that I think about it. I like how the flamethrower has become the "signature" Alien weapon, when in fact in the the first one it was made from a bunch of cobbled-together tools, and in the second one it was a half-empty remnant that is scarcely used until Ripley's badass finale. And even there it was literally duct-taped to a more useful gun. That reminds me. In the one of the last scenes in Aliens, Ripley enters the Queen's chamber, and there's this kind of Mexican standoff between the two of them. Ripley notices that some of the xenomorphs are coming into the room with Murder On Their Minds, and she shoots some fire toward one of them. The aliens retreat. The Queen and Ripley stare each other down, and after a moment one of the eggs opens up. Ripley shoots a look that is all like "the gently caress you gonna try some poo poo like that" and then torches the place. It's a really, really well done scene. It's this incredible silent battle of wills between two obviously intelligent women who are willing to do almost anything to protect their children. Sigourney Weaver manages to pack a detailed and clear threat into a facial expression that lasts for less than a second. Good Movie, Great Scene. Little Blue Couch has a new favorite as of 06:10 on Jun 18, 2012 |
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In American Pie after Tara Reid's character leaves the party some random drunk guy yells out "YETI! I AM THE YETI!" right before the scene fades out to the next day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgXTRSSX3cc&t=13s
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Little Blue Couch posted:That reminds me. In the one of the last scenes in Aliens, Ripley enters the Queen's chamber, and there's this kind of Mexican standoff between the two of them. Ripley notices that some of the xenomorphs are coming into the room with Murder On Their Minds, and she shoots some fire toward one of them. The aliens retreat. The Queen and Ripley stare each other down, and after a moment one of the eggs opens up. Ripley shoots a look that is all like "the gently caress you gonna try some poo poo like that" and then torches the place. It's a really, really well done scene. It's this incredible silent battle of wills between two obviously intelligent women who are willing to do almost anything to protect their children. Sigourney Weaver manages to pack a detailed and clear threat into a facial expression that lasts for less than a second. Good Movie, Great Scene. Hell yeah! I always hoot when this happens. It's so perfect.
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Just rewatched Planet Terror and on a car radio at one point you hear the DJ say "In loving memory of Jungle Julia" the DJ from Death Proof. Edit: I also loved that when Ray is dying, amidst a bunch of repeated lines from earlier, Cherry says "Two against the world" with the kind of dramatic tone that suggests Ray had said it originally. I'm pretty sure he never did so it must have been in the lost reel. swampland has a new favorite as of 12:31 on Jun 20, 2012 |
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Nucleotide Oracle posted:In American Pie after Tara Reid's character leaves the party some random drunk guy yells out "YETI! I AM THE YETI!" right before the scene fades out to the next day. What's the subtle part of this?
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Little Blue Couch posted:I like how the flamethrower has become the "signature" Alien weapon, when in fact in the the first one it was made from a bunch of cobbled-together tools, and in the second one it was a half-empty remnant that is scarcely used until Ripley's badass finale. And even there it was literally duct-taped to a more useful gun. I believe Ripley just points the flamethrower in the air before firing it, actually NOT specifically at the entering xenomorphs - then she points it straight down at the eggs. She's just demonstrating to the queen what she brought to the fight, and what will happen if they gently caress with her. Then you see the queen look at the xenomorph drones and she gives them some sort of nonverbal signal to retreat, which is when they back off. ...so I think it's actually a cooler scene than you gave it credit for, there's an actual communication exchange between multiple parties, across species.
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Did anyone mention the father/fucker thing from Blade Runner yet? Or that the 'snake scale' that is seen under the electron microscope by the old Chinese lady was actually a marijuana bud? This is such a great movie. From IMDB in regards to the initial encounter between Harrison Ford and Edward James Olmos: quote:Translation of entire noodle-bar scene: Upon a seat becoming free at the counter, the Sushi Master (Bob Okazaki) shouts to Deckard (Harrison Ford), "Akimashita, akimashita! Irasshai, irasshai". In Japanese, "Akimashita" is the past tense of "aku", which means 'to become free'; "Irasshai" means "Welcome". So the Sushi Master is pointing at the seat and saying "It's free, it's free. Welcome, welcome". When Deckard approaches the bar, the Master says "Sa dozo", meaning "Come, please", followed by "Nan ni shimasho ka?", meaning, "What'll it be?" When Deckard asks for four, the master replies, "Futatsu de jubun desu yo", meaning "Two is enough" (he repeats this twice). When Gaff (Edward James Olmos) and a uniformed policeman approach Deckard, at first the policeman says, "Hey, idi-wa", Korean for: "Hey, come here". Gaff then says "Monsieur, azonnal kövessen engem bitte". "Monsieur" is French for Sir; "azonnal" is Hungarian for "immediately"; "kövessen" is the Hungarian imperative "to follow"; "engem" means "me"; "bitte" is German for "please". So a translation is "Sir, follow me immediately please". When Deckard tells Gaff that he's got the wrong person, Gaff says "Lófaszt, nehogy már. Te vagy a Blade ... Blade Runner". In Hungarian, "Lófaszt" is a rude expression. "Lo" means "horse" and "fasz" means "prick" or "dick". (The "t" is added at the end because of the rules of Hungarian grammar.) This expression is basically the equivalent of saying "Bullshit" in English. "Nehogy már" means "no way" in English. "Te vagy" means "you are", and "a" means "the". As such, a close literal translation is "Bullshit, no way, you're the Blade...Blade Runner". Gaff then says, "Captain Bryant toka. Me ni omae yo". This is based on Japanese, but is not strictly Japanese in structure. "Captain Bryant toka" is probably a version of "Captain Bryanto ga", meaning, "Captain Bryant is the subject of this sentence". "Me ni mae" means "to meet someone"; "omae" is the informal way of saying "you", and "yo" is simply an exclamation. As such, the translation would be "Captain Bryant. He wants to see you!"
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tobu posted:Did anyone mention the father/fucker thing from Blade Runner yet? Not yet, but I will. In Blade Runner, when Roy Batty has his confrontation with Eldon Tyrell, he finally asks him for an extension on his four-year lifespan. When he's told it's impossible, he kills him. Depending on which version you're watching, however, the way he does it is different: in one version, he says straight "I want more life, father", pleading with him for a stay of execution. In the other version he says "I want more life... fucker," essentially telling him he's going to help him. They both play out with Tyrell's death, but in the former, it's almost an impulsive act borne out of grief, rage and helplessness, while in the other, it's simple violence - you can't help me, so what good are you alive?
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In The Empire Strikes Back, there is a nice moment that took me multiple repeat viewings to catch: as the Imperial Fleet is navigating the asteroid field, we see an asteroid obliterate the conning tower of a Star Destroyer. Cut to Vader on the Executor getting a progress report via hologram from several of the fleet's captains...but one of them abruptly raises his hands as if to ward off a blow, and then his image gets cut off. He was on board the Star Destroyer that was hit with the asteroid
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Phy posted:Considering that the Nostromo was literally a refinery (or hauling a refinery, something like that) I think the decision to make it sort of run-down and grubby was exactly the right one, even aside from the pristine nature of most SF films. It's like any industry where the profit motive has priority - you clean where you can, especially on poo poo where grime can gently caress up the company's machinery, otherwise it's your rear end. If someone dies because the grime was obscuring a crack in a process pipe, welp. And if stuff breaks you bodge a fix toot sweet no dogfucking. The motion tracker and flamethrower in Alien were very much in that spirit, now that I think about it. I thought it was kinda implied that the motion tracker in Alien was specially built for Ash by Weyland-Yutani to track the xeno? I can't remember the exact dialogue, but I think Ash said it was triggered by changes in air density, which is a pretty bullshit reason. Not quite sure how WY would have the tech to do that, but still. e: Ripley says "Micro changes in air density, my rear end", not sure where or when, though. tight aspirations has a new favorite as of 15:26 on Jun 20, 2012 |
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Another Fight Club subtlety: Basically throughout the movie, no one ever interacts with Tyler Durden (Brad Pitt) apparent from the Narrator (Edward Norton). People look at the narrator when they are supposedly talking to Durden, they apologize when bumping into the narrator but not when bumping into Durden, and Marla is never in the same room with BOTH of the men. The Game: the company that runs the game is called Consumer Recreation Services, or CRS. When the kill team arrives to "murder" Nicholas Van Orton at Christine's apartment, they do so in a van with a Cable Repair Services (CRS) logo. I think there is at least one other CRS reference, but I can't remember off the top of my head.
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Red1Dex posted:The Game: the company that runs the game is called Consumer Recreation Services, or CRS. When the kill team arrives to "murder" Nicholas Van Orton at Christine's apartment, they do so in a van with a Cable Repair Services (CRS) logo. I think there is at least one other CRS reference, but I can't remember off the top of my head. California Regal Sedans (the cab company), and the Claremont Resort and Spa
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AFewBricksShy posted:Two I found on IMDB: Nice - the cab was the one I was thinking about, didn't know about the spa. Some fun musical subtle moments: Grosse Pointe Blank: In the mini-mart scene, the GNR song "Live and Let Die" is playing in the exterior shots, then when Martin Blank enters the store, the song continues, except in muzak form. Indiana Jones - Last Crusade: while in the crypt under the library ("X marks the spot"), they encounter a carving of the Ark of the Covenant. Elsa: "You're sure?" Jones: "I'm sure." Besides being a neat call-back, John Williams incorporated the musical theme for the Ark from Raiders into the score as well. Starts here at about 0:16. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7KO1S06gV8. Inception: big ups to Hans Zimmer for creativity on this one - the most recognizable theme is actually a slowed down version of the "pre-kick" song they put on to warn people the dream is ending. Best explained here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2sD3QvwnjY
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I just rewatched Kill Bill on bluray with a friend last night and you could go through almost every scene and pick out something awesome. A couple I noticed, when Uma is duelling Copperhead there are some nice visual clues in the kitchen scene like a painting behind Uma that looks like blood spatter and the cereal box copperhead uses to hide her gun is KABOOM brand cereal. A few scenes later when Buck (who likes to gently caress) is selling Uma's sleeping body he passes the john a jar of "Vasalube". And then in the sequel things get slightly less surreal but during the Pai-Mei training scene theres a subtle film grain effect added that reinforces the old Kung Fu tropes present in the scene. I could list a million more but those were just a few of my favourites.
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Rare Collectable posted:And then in the sequel things get slightly less surreal but during the Pai-Mei training scene theres a subtle film grain effect added that reinforces the old Kung Fu tropes present in the scene. I could list a million more but those were just a few of my favourites. In the training scene, there's a really awkward zoom in on Pai Mei's face. In old kung fu movies, they do that kind of zoom in all the time. I'm a massive kung fu movie fan so I noticed and thought it was hilarious. They really nailed the kung fu poo poo. http://youtu.be/fCbf4DjlHuM?t=34s
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Red1Dex posted:Another Fight Club subtlety: Basically throughout the movie, no one ever interacts with Tyler Durden (Brad Pitt) apparent from the Narrator (Edward Norton). People look at the narrator when they are supposedly talking to Durden, they apologize when bumping into the narrator but not when bumping into Durden, and Marla is never in the same room with BOTH of the men. Holy moly! No way!
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SmokaDustbowl posted:In the training scene, there's a really awkward zoom in on Pai Mei's face. In old kung fu movies, they do that kind of zoom in all the time. I'm a massive kung fu movie fan so I noticed and thought it was hilarious. They really nailed the kung fu poo poo. Ahaha yes, we laughed our asses off at that. The way he used a classic character like Pai-Mei and cast David Carradine as Bill was genius, their both brilliant tributes to old Kung Fu.
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