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Kynetx
Jan 8, 2003


Full of ignorant tribalism. Kinda sad.

Don Lapre posted:

Lots of things are harder than glass.

Lots of things? No. There are things, yes, but they don't typically end up on your finger prints or the glass by accident. I don't use them, and none of my devices are scratched despite constant use in the field.

Kynetx fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Jun 18, 2012

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the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
If I leave my tablet in clock mode over night, is there any chance of screen burn in? (I must be old, but is that even an issue anymore?)

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Kynetx posted:

Lots of things? No. There are things, yes, but they don't typically end up on your finger prints or the glass by accident. I don't use them, and none of my devices are scratched despite constant use I'm the field.
Glass is only a little over halfway up Mohs scale. Also it's not what's on your fingertips that scratches glass, it's what ends up in your pockets or bags.

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

Don Lapre posted:

Glass is only a little over halfway up Mohs scale. Also it's not what's on your fingertips that scratches glass, it's what ends up in your pockets or bags.
For what it's worth my kids can find something harder than any tablet/phone screen within seconds. I put a screen protector on everything.

shodanjr_gr
Nov 20, 2007
Any case recommendations for the TF300?

Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?
Ramrod XTreme
This 13.3 inch tablet from Toshiba looks very interesting. I'm still stuck between wanting the Samsung galaxy note 10.1 and seeing tablets like this that could be useful.

Reading pdf files or comics on the 13.3 inch screen would be amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLyW2asc460

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

the posted:

If I leave my tablet in clock mode over night, is there any chance of screen burn in? (I must be old, but is that even an issue anymore?)
You're probably fine unless it has an AMOLED screen. The only tablet I've heard of with an AMOLED screen is the Galaxy Tab 7.7.

At least one goon has reported screen burnin with the Kindle Fire, but with LCD screens (such as on the Kindle Fire) burnin can almost always be reversed by showing an all-white image on the screen for a while to relax the crystals.

right arm
Oct 30, 2011

Hamelekim posted:

This 13.3 inch tablet from Toshiba looks very interesting. I'm still stuck between wanting the Samsung galaxy note 10.1 and seeing tablets like this that could be useful.

Reading pdf files or comics on the 13.3 inch screen would be amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLyW2asc460

I prefer the 18.4 inch Asus Transformer AiO with Windows 8 and Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie87s6U9A6c

Sorry about your tiny girl hands :smugdroid:

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

right arm posted:

Sorry about your tiny girl hands :smugdroid:

Dear Asus, please start making phones :allears:

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

Cakefool posted:

Dear Asus, please start making phones :allears:

Phones, or PadFones?

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Don Lapre posted:

Lots of things are harder than glass.

Yeah I do a lot of loose diamond sales and I've always got gems in my pocket along side my phone and it pisses me off asus!!! :argh: Where's my diamond screen??

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

I linked this earlier in the thread, I want one so much.

Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret
Lipstick Apathy

Scaramouche posted:

Yeah I do a lot of loose diamond sales and I've always got gems in my pocket along side my phone and it pisses me off asus!!! :argh: Where's my diamond screen??

Apple hasn't made one yet :smug:.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

Rhyno posted:

I linked this earlier in the thread, I want one so much.
You didn't link it, you just asked about it. Have you read any reviews?

quote:

The PadFone nails the idea, but misses on the execution to the point where it feels more like a tech demo than a viable product. There are enough performance issues and app interface problems that I began to avoid using the PadFone as a tablet, and even the phone itself has some underwhelming specs for a supposedly high-end device.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

You didn't link it, you just asked about it. Have you read any reviews?

I guess I forgot to link it. But yeah I read all about it and it's a bummer. The idea is fantastic so I'm hoping someone else runs with it in the future.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



Apparently, Android tablets have caught up to iPads in terms of usage.

http://news.investors.com/article/615149/201206181226/google-android-closes-gap-with-apple-ipad.htm

50% of tablet owners have iPads, 51% have Android. That extra 1% is because of having more than one type of tablet (I don't get that but...okay?).

As it stands, the iPad 2 is the top tablet in use with 31% of tablet owners having it. The Kindle Fire is the second with 28% and the iPad 1 and Samsung Galaxy Tab tying at third place at 13%.

95% of tablet owners are happy with their iPad while 90% are happy with their Android tablet.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

I'm not sure that 2 of the top 5 Android devices on this list are e-readers is good for the Android ecosystem.



Also :lol: at the Touchpad being 1 of those 5 Android devices, and the Playbook's dropping numbers year-over-year.

sethsez
Jul 14, 2006

He's soooo dreamy...

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

I'm not sure that 2 of the top 5 Android devices on this list are e-readers is good for the Android ecosystem.



Also :lol: at the Touchpad being 1 of those 5 Android devices, and the Playbook's dropping numbers year-over-year.

They're not exactly Pandigital or Kobo e-readers, they're perfectly functional as tablets (minus camera and GPS) and are about as powerful as anything else with a dual-core processor from late 2011, though the Fire definitely had some software issues slowing it down back then, which have mostly been fixed.

The part that matters is that neither of them have access to Google's services, which definitely isn't the kind of thing that helps with fragmentation.

TontoCorazon
Aug 18, 2007


Any good cases for the Acer Iconia A200?

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

I'm not sure that 2 of the top 5 Android devices on this list are e-readers is good for the Android ecosystem.



Also :lol: at the Touchpad being 1 of those 5 Android devices, and the Playbook's dropping numbers year-over-year.

Is this chart seriously suggesting 50% of tablet owners own Android tablets?

What corner of the Samsung cafeteria did they get their sample from?

yamdankee
Jan 23, 2005

~anderoid fragmentation~
Well when you call an Android device/tablet anything not an iPad, Playbook, or running Windows, that's a pretty huge list of devices. Android fragmentation coming in handy for large and ambiguous numbers!

Crackbone
May 23, 2003

Vlaada is my co-pilot.

yamdankee posted:

Well when you call an Android device/tablet anything not an iPad, Playbook, or running Windows, that's a pretty huge list of devices. Android fragmentation coming in handy for large and ambiguous numbers!

Yeah, pretty much. People in the Kindle Fire, Nook, and Touchpad markets are at completely different price points than an ipad. If you segmented the market by form factor or price those numbers would look completely different.

I suppose the chart is accurate but its seems deliberately misleading.

The Merkinman
Apr 22, 2007

I sell only quality merkins. What is a merkin you ask? Why, it's a wig for your genitals!

Crackbone posted:

Yeah, pretty much. People in the Kindle Fire, Nook, and Touchpad markets are at completely different price points than an ipad. If you segmented the market by form factor or price those numbers would look completely different.

I suppose the chart is accurate but its seems deliberately misleading.
Apple has 0% of the 7" market :smugdroid:

clockworx
Oct 15, 2005
The Internet Whore made me buy this account
I wonder how inflated those numbers are by the people who are serially buying and returning every new device release "just to try it out".

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Rhyno posted:

I guess I forgot to link it. But yeah I read all about it and it's a bummer. The idea is fantastic so I'm hoping someone else runs with it in the future.

Didn't Motorola do something similar a year and a half ago or so and it also failed miserably?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

DrBouvenstein posted:

Didn't Motorola do something similar a year and a half ago or so and it also failed miserably?

That was the Lapdock. It wasn't a tablet really, just a crappy laptop you snapped the phone into.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

Rhyno posted:

That was the Lapdock. It wasn't a tablet really, just a crappy laptop you snapped the phone into.

The idea was sound, the execution not so much; lovely limited dock only OS, insanely overpriced, 3-4 year development cycle.

At least they tried?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

zer0spunk posted:

The idea was sound, the execution not so much; lovely limited dock only OS, insanely overpriced, 3-4 year development cycle.

At least they tried?

Props for effort I guess. The PadFone is a step in the right direction. If Appl made an iPhone/iPad device like that I'd turn to the dark side in a heartbeat.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

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Soiled Meat

clockworx posted:

I wonder how inflated those numbers are by the people who are serially buying and returning every new device release "just to try it out".

I really wonder how they got that data. The linked article says its via a survey, but I'd really like to know the sampling numbers, because I really have a very hard time believing that as many people have a Touchpad as have the new iPad, and that there's as many Kindle Fire's out there as there are iPad2's.

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?
^^^ Amazon sold a shitload of Kindle Fires over the holidays. When I saw the numbers, my eyes popped out of my head. I totally believe that chart.

I had been planning on getting an iPad or Android tablet awhile back. A few months ago, I decided to cheap out by buying an Amazon Kindle Fire. I find myself really regretting this decision. Here are my issues with the Fire:

1) No access to the Android app store. You're supposed to get all of your apps from the Amazon app store, which has a much smaller app selection. This leads to weird situations like being able to get the free version of Words with Friends but not the paid version so if you want to play the game you have to put up with super obnoxious ads. The only way to use any app that's not on the Amazon app store is somehow finding an app that the creator has put up as a regular download outside of any app store. This almost never happens; most apps exist only in the app stores.

The funniest app-related thing is that the preinstalled Facebook "app" just opens up the web browser to Facebook Mobile.

2) The "revolutionary" browser loving sucks. It is easily the worst web browser I have ever used. It constantly crashes. It loves to throw up "The Browser app has stopped unexpectedly; shutting down" error when I'm in the middle of reading a web page.

3) Reading magazines on the Fire is a terrible experience. Some magazines now feature "page view," which is basically scans of the print version of the magazine. This usually looks terrible because the print is so small in most magazines that you have to do a lot of awkward zooming and scrolling to be able to read it. I could imagine that it would look good on a larger screen but on a seven-inch screen it's worthless. In order to make magazines readable, you really need to put them into "Text View" which formats the magazine to look like an e-book, and seems to grab portions of pictures from completely unrelated parts of the article. Magazines are readable this way but are very, very ugly.

4) The Fire itself will completely freeze up every few days, forcing a long shutdown and restart to be put back into a usuable state. It only takes a couple of minutes but it's very annoying to have it happen when I'm in the middle of doing something and it happens way too loving often.

I'm probably going to just cut my losses soon, sell the drat thing, and buy an iPad. I want to make it very clear that I'm only condemning the Kindle Fire specifically, not Android tablets in general. I don't even feel like I'm qualified to comment on the Android operating system itself given that the Kindle Fire masks the OS with its own weird proprietary custom shell.

So in short: if you're going to buy an Android tablet, just stay the gently caress away from the Kindle Fire.

...! fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jun 20, 2012

Kynetx
Jan 8, 2003


Full of ignorant tribalism. Kinda sad.

Jerk McJerkface posted:

I really wonder how they got that data. The linked article says its via a survey, but I'd really like to know the sampling numbers, because I really have a very hard time believing that as many people have a Touchpad as have the new iPad, and that there's as many Kindle Fire's out there as there are iPad2's.



...and no mention of Motorola or Asus.
Furthermore, I don't think I've ever seen a non-Apple tablet in the wild.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Kynetx posted:

...and no mention of Motorola or Asus.
Furthermore, I don't think I've ever seen a non-Apple tablet in the wild.

Bizarrely I've seen more Playbooks than anything else, but maybe that's because I'm in Canada.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Kynetx posted:

...and no mention of Motorola or Asus.
"Other Android"

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
The enthusiast/performance market for Android is about the same size as the Pantech $80 Froyo "tablet" market. That's not news.

Android on tablet will take off in some form or another due to Amazon being pretty damned determined to keep the Kindle ecosystem alive. Google/gapps will probably never be in the driver's seat. To most people that's not important, though it will matter with developers who have been reacted to the Amazon store with something between apathy and disdain.

Electrical Fire
Mar 29, 2010

Scaramouche posted:

Bizarrely I've seen more Playbooks than anything else, but maybe that's because I'm in Canada.

Same for me. In my (Canadian)university class of about 60 people I think I have seen three iPads, one TF101, and two or three Playbooks.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

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Soiled Meat

Kynetx posted:

...and no mention of Motorola or Asus.
Furthermore, I don't think I've ever seen a non-Apple tablet in the wild.

I live in NJ and work in NYC. I take public transportation for an hour each way, and transfer trains. I also right a lot of other public transportation (subways, buses, metro trains) to and from clients, so I see a decent cross section of people, in an environment where a tablet is really handy. I sort of make it a point to look around and see who has what tablets and make a mental note.

I see about a 50/50 split between iPads and Kindles. I've seen only a handful of Kindle Fires. I see Nook Colors occasionally too, and oddly enough they are usually running CM7. I'd guess that I've seen about twenty or thirty of them. I've seen only three Xooms since it was launched, and I've never seen either an Asus or a Samsung tablet.

GoodApollo
Jul 9, 2005

...! posted:

^^^ Amazon sold a shitload of Kindle Fires over the holidays. When I saw the numbers, my eyes popped out of my head. I totally believe that chart.

I had been planning on getting an iPad or Android tablet awhile back. A few months ago, I decided to cheap out by buying an Amazon Kindle Fire. I find myself really regretting this decision. Here are my issues with the Fire:


drat, I've been using mine since December and I've had none of those stability issues. Maybe try a factory restore?

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

Jerk McJerkface posted:

I live in NJ and work in NYC. I take public transportation for an hour each way, and transfer trains. I also right a lot of other public transportation (subways, buses, metro trains) to and from clients, so I see a decent cross section of people, in an environment where a tablet is really handy. I sort of make it a point to look around and see who has what tablets and make a mental note.



Hey me too, but I have a tf 201 and dock I bring with me, so there's your 1 person I guess?

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

GoodApollo posted:

drat, I've been using mine since December and I've had none of those stability issues. Maybe try a factory restore?

Eh, I'm assuming that after doing a factory restore I'd have to manually reload all my books, magazines, and apps on the thing and that's too much of a pain in the rear end for something I'm about to sell anyway. Even if it was more stable, that still doesn't fix the other major issues I have with the thing. I can't even give it high marks as an e-reader because of the retarded way it handles in-book notations. I have an e-book that often has multiple notations on a single word. No matter which one I tap, it always takes me to the last notation on that word. Weird and frustrating.

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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
For Aus/NZ Droid tabbers, I've been poking around news sites and Facebook pages and have the following good/bad news.

Samsung:

PB Tech NZ has product pages for the Galaxy Tab 2 in their tablets section. The 3G 16GB 10.1 in silver is listed at $851.00 inc GST and with stock expected 'Mid June'. They seem to have some stock of the Wi-Fi only model at the logistics centre already.

Acer:

NZ: The A510 is going to be sold through EB Games for some reason, from Mid July.

The A700 is not coming to Australia, and presumably not NZ either.


Asus:

Australia is getting the 64GB Wifi version only, in gold and grey and will RPP for $899 including the dock.

It seems if you want a full HD tablet with 3g support then you're poo poo out of luck.

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