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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
For everyone having trouble with bandits, there is a simple thing to know that makes them a lot easier. Any fighter bandits (they'll have a shield) do far more damage and take a load more damage. Keep them crowd controlled somehow until they're last

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QQmore
Jan 10, 2010

Stelas posted:

Oh, yeah, I forgot about the cave stacked full with sulfurous lizards. Basically, going straight-on down the hill at all in that region is a really bad idea at least until you've been to Gran Soren and back, you'll either meet an army of bandits or an army of lizards. It's doable if you've rented high-level pawns from your friends list, but still obnoxious as you have to kite and run. Just go left, hit the Witchwood, and the Quina quest will automatically point you to a one-way shortcut back to Cassardis.

Go at night and stay on the path, should just face a poo poo ton of wolves. Make sure at the fork in the road you go to the left. Landmark is the rock that during the day has the 'death' bandits. (which at my point are pretty laughable but I'm maxed at lvl 86 post-game :v: )

Dunno if I should try and make my pawn a curvy female again or keep them as the giant semi-ork. Not exactly crazy with my character creations so far, though my fem attempt's a'ight. for new game plus+. Finally maxed vocation with ranger so i can mess around with whatever class i want now, may just do a couple more rounds with it for the stamina. Stockpiling DP and buying everything I missed. Also have to kill the Ur-dragon and try and redo the post-game. Again.

QQmore fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Jun 18, 2012

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

Stelas posted:

Oh, yeah, I forgot about the cave stacked full with sulfurous lizards. Basically, going straight-on down the hill at all in that region is a really bad idea at least until you've been to Gran Soren and back, you'll either meet an army of bandits or an army of lizards. It's doable if you've rented high-level pawns from your friends list, but still obnoxious as you have to kite and run. Just go left, hit the Witchwood, and the Quina quest will automatically point you to a one-way shortcut back to Cassardis.

I'm working my way back to that area now, after going to the hub city. It seems like what a friend of mine was telling me about Dadk Souls: almost everything is open to you, but you can't really go anywhere.

Seashell Salesman
Aug 4, 2005

Holy wow! That "Literally A Person" sure is a cool and good poster. He's smart and witty and he smells like a pure mountain stream. I posted in his thread and I got a FANCY NEW AVATAR!!!!
Just started playing this and drove myself nuts trying to make Pam from Archer as my pawn, all the level 5 pawns online suck donkey balls. Every single one is either a child, a really bland white dude, or a super model. My ideal second pawn would be a big fat mage with friar tuck hair. Or even just a Gandalf lookin' dude :(

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

I don't know if any other spells can do it but Bolide can hit a metal golem's medals!

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

Seashell Salesman posted:

Just started playing this and drove myself nuts trying to make Pam from Archer as my pawn, all the level 5 pawns online suck donkey balls. Every single one is either a child, a really bland white dude, or a super model. My ideal second pawn would be a big fat mage with friar tuck hair. Or even just a Gandalf lookin' dude :(

My first instinct was to make a short, fat pawn to go along with my Ander The Giant with FAS main character.

She goes by Lonnie. No idea why that is the name I chose, seemed right.

likecnsnnts
Jun 16, 2008

SPLINTER CELLULITE
:aaa:

So I finally hired Mercedes' Ranger, and I was confused at first, because she's not equipped with daggers. It took a moment to click before I realized that this means she's 100% reliant on her bow and will use that exclusively. And when I've already got a Fighter with Shield Summons, and me with backup daggers, I don't need a Ranger to do anything but bow stuff down.

I wish pawns could be hybrid classes (they probably can't be because complicated AI attack patterns for all the weapon combos) so I could play with this concept more. I don't think taking away a Fighter's shield will revolutionize their combat.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


I found a flaming sword and I'm curious how the weapon stats work. It has strength and magic, so does that mean it does physical and magical damage when I hit stuff with it? Dumb sounding question I know, but its making me want to switch to assassin.

Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated


likecnsnnts posted:

I wish pawns could be hybrid classes (they probably can't be because complicated AI attack patterns for all the weapon combos) so I could play with this concept more. I don't think taking away a Fighter's shield will revolutionize their combat.

There are actually enemies you can fight that use the hybrid classes, so it's probably not an AI issue so much as them wanting to have something special just for the Arisen.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
They probably realised 4 assassin's together at night would be a little broken

Bitch Twinkles
Nov 5, 2007

HAVE COURAGE PLAY ST MODE
On romancin' front I got to save Valmiro from the dragon and Symone met me at the beach. What a hosed set there.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
What is this beach scene people talk about? I never got that.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Bitch Twinkles posted:

On romancin' front I got to save Valmiro from the dragon and Symone met me at the beach. What a hosed set there.

The FBI should be paying you a visit shortly. Don't worry, I'm sure they'll be reasonable and listen to what you have to say.

I finally got around to taking a screenshot of my pawn which I said I'd do like ten pages ago. I finally caught the tail end of the Ur-Dragon fight and got all of it dragonforged. If it isn't dragonforged it isn't getting put on my pawn, it's as simple as that.



Me is center (based off of my Mass Effect's Shepard) and my pawn is to the immediate right. Wearing the same chest armor as I am until I finally find that assassin stuff in the Everfall.

Captain Diarrhoea
Apr 16, 2011
Think i'm gonna play out the rest of the game as a fighter or warrior now. Started as fighter, think i maxed it then changed to warrior, maxed it and now i've maxed mystic knight. MK seems a bit lackluster for me, admittedly i'm using a hammer and not a staff because i'd prefer to just save the magic for another playthrough now that i'm so far along. Being able to enchant your own weapon's handy, you practically never need the shield when you've levelled far enough and great cannon's nothing great but again i've been melee not magic all game.

Deliberately not bothered with casting/strider classes just because i figure i'll probably give this another play through at some point. :)

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

My romances were the best. In my first game I got Mercedes at the dragon and Asalam at the beach, and in my new game+ I got Aelinore at the dragon and Caxton at the beach. This game :allears:. If it had been the other way around the postgame would have been annoying as hell unless I just wanted to fight the Ur-Dragon all day (no sir).

likecnsnnts
Jun 16, 2008

SPLINTER CELLULITE
You can pick the people you end up with, right?

I gave Aelinore my Arisen band (because I thought I could piss off the Duke, no such luck-- actually locked me out of her quests...) and she was at the dragon, then in post-game I gave the band to Madeline and she was at the beach.

Like... it's 100% controllable and not just random chance, right?

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

likecnsnnts posted:

You can pick the people you end up with, right?

I gave Aelinore my Arisen band (because I thought I could piss off the Duke, no such luck-- actually locked me out of her quests...) and she was at the dragon, then in post-game I gave the band to Madeline and she was at the beach.

Like... it's 100% controllable and not just random chance, right?

It chooses whoever you most recently maxed affinity with, and you get affinity for basically any interaction with an npc that isn't punching them or throwing them. Some of them, like Selene and I think Aelinore have quests that pretty much max their affinity Witch Hunt and Duchess in Distress, respectively. At least this is how I understand it.

E: Actually your pawns sometimes say something along the lines of "conversation is the heart of any bond" which supports that.

vvvvv How much time did you spend in the postgame? I spent a longass time in the postgame in both playthroughs.

Bakalakadaka fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Jun 18, 2012

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011
Dunno how people are getting two different ones since in all my playthroughs I've always gotten one person at both scenes

RME
Feb 20, 2012

The ur dragon is in it's grace period for anyone interested.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to get the same person for both cutscenes, I think what happens is that the affinity rating is changing in the post-game which gives you a new partner. The game just looks at a number somewhere and goes "who has the most love points?--> puts that person into cutscene".

I never did get the Arisen Bond, why do I have such a blind-spot about going to the drat Witchwood? Guess maybe I'll pick it up the next time through. :sigh:

Bleusilences
Jun 23, 2004

Be careful for what you wish for.

If you fail a quest can you redo it or I am going to wait for new game plus. I failed an escort quest and the follow the guy quest(he saw me trough a wall).

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



My sorcerer (sorceress) pawn is awesome.

We were trekking in the woods, returning from the Soulflayer Canyon east entrance fort. I did not realize I need to be disguised as a woman to do things there.

Anyway, we run into some wolves (I'm level 31). "THEY HATE FIRE!", she yells and the next thing I know, two very loving bewildered wolves are getting meteors rained down on them.

Holy overkill!

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

Bleusilences posted:

If you fail a quest can you redo it or I am going to wait for new game plus. I failed an escort quest and the follow the guy quest(he saw me trough a wall).

I think escort quests are the only quests you can fail, and you can't redo them but for the most part they really aren't worth doing to begin with.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Escorts might pop up again, not sure about that. The follow the guy quest definitely won't, failing it will probably lock you out of some quests and probably Madeleine won't ever set up shop. Neither is going to break your game or anything though as far as I know. Edit: does it game over you when it fails? I gave him plenty of room because I figure the game would be an rear end in a top hat about it.

Because of this game's kind of odd saving system all I can recommend is to be very aware of when you last saved and always try to rest/save at an Inn before doing anything like that.

If you, yourself die while escorting some dumbass to the rear end end of the world: Retry will take you to your last manual save; Restart from Checkpoint will take you back to the Inn which is probably what you'll need to do if your escortee kicks it. Since the game will autosave when a quest is completed or failed the second one is going to be your only option.

It seems like they're trying to make your actions have consequences by making it hard to just reload to get a different quest result. It feels more cumbersome to me than it did in Dark Souls though, even though in that game it was constantly saving, and especially after you did virtually anything of import. Accidentally whack that Blacksmith with your sword? Permanently aggro to you! Kick that character off a ledge just to see what would happen? Dead forever, hope you didn't want any of the things she sells or do any of the (completely unmarked, unnamed and completely missable) quests for the entire rest of the game! There is a way to un-aggro someone, but if they're dead, they're dead.

In DD you at least have the option of reverting to the last Inn or Riftstone's save, just keep that in mind when poo poo goes south.

e: e: Forgot that Riftstones also count as checkpoints.

a kitten fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jun 18, 2012

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
It's pretty satisfying to go back through KILLER BANDIT territory as a sorcerer. CAN'T BLOCK TORNADOES AND EARTHQUAKES WITH YOUR FANCY SHIELDS CAN YOU FUCKERS? :madmax:

Tim Chuma
Dec 19, 2009
At level 16, cannot seem to find a mage pawn that has healing spells so I am still running around with Rook from the start of the game.

I did try and stay up on the ledge in the well, but the pawns jumped down by themselves. Am still on "A Troublesome Tome" and it was interesting to watch one dude on Youtube attack all the bandits in the castle you have to go to when you do not need to.

I don't know how people are doing it in some videos, do they just grind on random monsters to look cool in the quests by beating things you are not meant to at that point? I swear someone will find a way to kill all the tentacles in the Everfall when you have to run out.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

Lazyfire posted:

My first instinct was to make a short, fat pawn to go along with my Ander The Giant with FAS main character.

She goes by Lonnie. No idea why that is the name I chose, seemed right.
Pawn should have been named George. He knows all about rabbits.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Riftstones are also checkpoints. I don't think people realize that. So if you come across one, you can use that as a checkpoint and it will also fully heal your pawns.

Millions
Sep 13, 2007

Do you believe in heroes?
Thoughts from my several-hour play session yesterday:

Pawns, a haiku

There, master, harpies!
Wolves hunt in packs. The sight of
Women excites it.

Merchants, a haiku

You cannot go wrong.
Take your pick, any you like;
They're masterworks all.

Mystic Knight, a haiku

Ruinous Sigil
Burst Strike, Ruinous Sigil
Ruinous Sigil

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

RME posted:

The ur dragon is in it's grace period for anyone interested.

:argh: Always while I'm at work!

p.crestmont
Feb 17, 2012

Millions posted:

Thoughts from my several-hour play session yesterday:

Merchants, a haiku

You cannot go wrong.
Take your pick, any you like;
They're masterworks all.


I both hate and love how that guy says "masterworks alll, you can't go wrong"

It drove me nuts at first and now I can't help but sing along with him.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

p.crestmont posted:

I both hate and love how that guy says "masterworks alll, you can't go wrong"

It drove me nuts at first and now I can't help but sing along with him.

Masterworks alllll, you can't go wrong.

Just a jape my friend!

Seemenaked
Nov 19, 2003

...but girls already have a vagina between their legs, so they don't gotta trick anyone...

p.crestmont posted:

I both hate and love how that guy says "masterworks alll, you can't go wrong"

It drove me nuts at first and now I can't help but sing along with him.

Does that guy get better armor with the gold idol? I ended up choosing madeline cause the daggers, but I have yet to find any good armor/bow for my strider.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

I seem to recall he mostly just gets new weapons with the idols, and unlocks new armor based on your story progress.

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

I'm having full on insane-o break downs here. I thought poo poo was like, everything coming together, I was kicking rear end, there were huge rad monsters to kill, I was about to slay a griffin! Holy poo poo!

Then the Griffin flies away like 800 miles. Oh, that kinda sucks. Welp, I'm still pumped so I'm heading out, fight through a bunch of Dire wolves, that was pretty rad too. Then I pushed through the stupid tunnel-o-wind and before me rises this awesome looking purple golem thing. I start fighting it, but then a group of bandits decided to take me on. I get stunlocked by the golem and the bandits and die in like, 3 hits.

Then I end up back at the loving town.

I actually kinda like the journey aspect of the game, its a lot of fun. Sometimes. Right now I'm genuinely just, I really don't want to even bother hiking all that way again.

Mr Asshat
Oct 28, 2005
So why did the game go from being kind of hard to super easy once i started playing as a warrior, i went from having 3 fierce pawns to having one pawn with nothing but buff spells and i have been forced to remove most of my armour to make the game at least a bit challenging.

I am at level 23 at the water god temple and everything dies in four or five hits and everything i have encountered out in the wild is even weaker, the game is awesome but the lack of challenge is off putting, i know from reading the thread that there are some really difficult areas but they seem to be in the minority, does the general difficulty on the game increase later on or should i start the game over and not use such a overpowered character?

Bit of a shame since i really like playing as a two handed death machine, it's just that said death machine is a bit too efficient for his own good.

Mr Asshat fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jun 18, 2012

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Millions posted:

Ruinous Sigil
Burst Strike, Ruinous Sigil
Ruinous Sigil
For me it's more like, set up a ruinous sigil, take a step back, and start firing the magick cannon past it at all the stupid enemies trying to bum rush me.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

Nemesis Of Moles posted:

I actually kinda like the journey aspect of the game, its a lot of fun. Sometimes. Right now I'm genuinely just, I really don't want to even bother hiking all that way again.
There's a rest camp just north of the entrance to those canyons. :ohdear: Honestly it's probably best to google up a map and spoil yourself on the locations of those because they are super important and the game doesn't give you any clues about where they are unless you've hired a pawn that's been to them.

Also get into the habit of saving after every fight in an unexplored area, but I'm sure you know that already.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Samurai Sanders posted:

For me it's more like, set up a ruinous sigil, take a step back, and start firing the magick cannon past it at all the stupid enemies trying to bum rush me.

If you aren't firing 4 cannons you're not doing it right!

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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Codependent Poster posted:

If you aren't firing 4 cannons you're not doing it right!
I don't understand, you can't make pawns mystic knights.

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